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Richarlison makes Spurs switch
Updated Richarlison's four-year spell at Everton is over as negotiations over a proposed move to Tottenham Hotspur reached their conclusion with the two clubs agreeing a £60m deal.
The 25-year-old had already accepted personal terms on a five-year contract with the North London outfit, which just left the two clubs to thrash out a deal that is officially undisclosed but reported by the likes of The Telegraph to be worth a guaranteed £55m rising to £60m once all appearance-related add-ons are triggered after Everton flatly rejected a £40m offer yesterday. Spurs then made the announcement on Friday.
-->The finalisation of the deal comes as some are suggesting Everton's decision has been hastened by the club's financial year.
The Blues were said to be in need of a player sale by the end of June to satisfy the Premier League's profitability and sustainability rules. It's an assertion rejected by BBC Sport's Alistair McGowan but, regardless, with Tottenham beating off competition from Chelsea, the Brazilian becomes the first player to leave Goodison Park for cash this summer.
It's a development that will leave heavy hearts on Merseyside as a beloved player from Everton's squad departs.
Richarlison was signed from Watford for £40m, rising to £50m based on appearances, meaning that Everton will make a profit on his sale, even if the Hornets are due 10% of anything the Blues receive over the initial £40m fee.
In his time with the Blues he has scored 53 goals in 151 appearances, with many of his most recent being priceless contributions to the club's successful battle against relegation under new manager, Frank Lampard.
Six of his nine Premier League goals in 2021-22 came in the final 10 matches as Everton dragged themselves out of danger, culminating in a 3-2 win over Crystal Palace at Goodison Park last month that guaranteed survival, a game in which Richarlison scored the equaliser that wiped out a 2-0 half-time deficit.
He became a talismanic figure over the course of a turbulent season, one that began with him scoring against Southampton in the season-opener just days after he had returned from winning a gold medal with his country at the Tokyo Olympics.
Images of him holding a billowing blue smoke “flare” following his vital winner against Chelsea in April became one of the indelible symbols of the campaign and, most likely, his career in an Everton jersey.
Richarlison posted his farewell to Everton on Twitter and Instagram after the news of his move to London was confirmed, saying:
"It's very difficult to say goodbye to a place that has become my home; of fans who welcomed me not just as another player, but as if I were one of them in the stands; and a club that treated me kindly and helped me develop my sense of community and empathy.
"No words and not all the love I have for this club is enough to thank you. We'll see you along the way! I love you, Evertonians!💙🥺"
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2 Posted 30/06/2022 at 07:38:59
Sad to see him go but he belongs in a better team than we can provide sadly and has given us his all during his time here. The board have failed him and us by taking us backwards over the last 5 years despite the investment of huge funds.
Appalling decision-making and overspending culminating in us once again having to sell our best player. The fact he won't even be first choice at Spurs shows how big the gap is. Meanwhile, their 5th choice central midfielder will probably walk into our team. Sad days.
Sadder still is that Richarlison's exit will not aid our FFP that significantly as he cost so much originally. I would not be that surprised to see another sale of a prime prospect that cost far less (Gordon or Calvert-Lewin?)
If Kenwright is (belatedly) required to leave the club in this new takeover, then it might be fitting that selling Richarlison is his last significant duty and is emblematic of his legacy.
3 Posted 30/06/2022 at 07:45:12
I would have preferred him to go overseas to be honest and I did think that Ancelotti would take him but Spurs? I'm not sure it's a good move, to be honest. I know Conte is a good manager and he is putting a team together but I listened to TalkSport (yeah, I know) and the opinion was, with the 5 sub rule, he would be a handy player to have and use to rotate. That really does not work at any level for Richarlison: I just cannot see him being happy. Ah well...
As a last thought, the situation the club is in has more than likely been the catalyst for his decision to finally leave. I can't blame him, but I am looking sideways for the reason we had to sell him in the first place. Because, if that hadn't happened, we would have been in a far better position financially negating the need to sell our few good players.
4 Posted 30/06/2022 at 07:50:25
5 Posted 30/06/2022 at 07:50:37
Just go, Billy, just leave once and for all – you've done enough damage as it is.
6 Posted 30/06/2022 at 08:05:23
Spurs themselves are becoming an intriguing side, and definitely looked like they were one of the best teams in the Premier League towards the end of last season. If they can push on, anything might be possible.
But it looks like Everton needed this sale, just shows us all how badly we have been mismanaged for years.
7 Posted 30/06/2022 at 08:06:51
I am sad to see him go as he is an excellent player who always gives 100 per cent. From his point of view, I think he could have done better than Spurs, who are hardly more likely than us to win silverware.
8 Posted 30/06/2022 at 08:14:16
Hopefully Lampard gets a few quid to spend. I would like Gordon to get the #7 shirt when the new kit comes out to signify him staying.
9 Posted 30/06/2022 at 08:18:06
Looks like we did need to sell before month-end maybe - perhaps to keep legal action from Burnley at bay or Premier League sanctions. We'll probably never know.
As Sam says, £60M is less than we might want but probably about right in the current post-pandemic, post-Brexit and post-Ukraine economic climate.
10 Posted 30/06/2022 at 08:20:42
11 Posted 30/06/2022 at 08:21:31
Still surprised at Tottenham and not sure how that will go because they are intermittent, but next season he get's to play Champion's League. I think it is telling that no-one else came in seriously for him and I wouldn't be surprised to see us finish higher than Tottenham in a few seasons.
The fact we are supposedly having to sell concerns me that we get bent over by the pantomime villain and ruthless Levy. I'd have rated him more around the £70M mark, so if we get £60M plus any add-ons or dealings around Alli and a player thrown in, it may constitute good business. Let's see what plays out.
I wish him luck as a footballer and an individual. But we move on. Use any dealings and any money to reinvest in the squad and get us ready for next season. Everton is all that matters.
12 Posted 30/06/2022 at 08:24:07
13 Posted 30/06/2022 at 08:24:13
14 Posted 30/06/2022 at 08:26:43
House in Formby on a beachfront in one of the poshest parts of Liverpool, playing for a club which loves him and he loves, he could've had a statue and been an all-time Everton great.
Instead, he's going to Spurs where, let's have it right, he doesn't start over Son, Kane and Kulusevski. He won't enjoy being a bit-part player. He also won't enjoy going out of the Champions League early. I just think it's completely the wrong move for him.
Conte will be off and leave them with a big squad full of players that will be difficult for a new boss to manage. I just don't get it. Moving to London when you literally live over the road from a woods. Mad in my opinion.
However, I wish him well, but he's not irreplaceable. Dennis, who we have been linked with, would do a job; Cornet would do a job.
I personally would like to see us like-for-like replace him with Joao Pedro from Watford. I think he's the new Richarlison and we should get him £25M with add-ons before someone else does.
Thanks, Richy mate. I love you, but the club continues. Remember Pienaar.
15 Posted 30/06/2022 at 08:29:22
Richarlison has been my favourite blue player for a long time. It's a shame we can't offer him Champions League football and for us, unfortunately, that's where he belongs.
Spurs are on another level now and the attacking talent they have is immense.
16 Posted 30/06/2022 at 08:32:17
If things were this tight, they never should have signed Alli and Patterson and then we wouldn't be forced into this now.
They need to go as soon as but, like with everything they do, they will no doubt choose exactly the wrong future custodians.
Bumbling incompetence all the way around the block.
17 Posted 30/06/2022 at 08:32:38
The blue flare/smoke thing that he held up on scoring for us, is my screensaver. It's an iconic photo. He probably doesn't want to go, but yet another monumental fuck up by Everton has lead to us losing him.
I honestly don't know where we are going from here, with what remains of this squad. I fear the worst next season, takeover or no takeover.
18 Posted 30/06/2022 at 08:44:30
A few decent signings, coupled with a few established players rediscovering their form (eg, Dele Alli) and we could have a good season.
Think of when Bent and Cahill joined and Graversen stepped up a gear. We went from 4th from bottom to 4th. After a pre-season trip Stateside no less!
19 Posted 30/06/2022 at 08:50:08
Before we all lose our minds over a low ball figure, let's see what else we've managed to negotiate, eg, a free Winks loan, money off the Dele deal, or even Bergwijn?
All that said, if it's a straight £50M purchase, I will be mortified and at a loss to defend our top brass. Let's wait and see what is announced today.
20 Posted 30/06/2022 at 08:57:09
Moshiri out, Bill out, the devil we don't know in!
21 Posted 30/06/2022 at 08:57:21
He does want to go
The downside is that the deal has to be done today to balance the books. I would have liked to have held on longer in the hope of a bidding war developing and maybe including 1 or 2 Chelsea players in a deal.
22 Posted 30/06/2022 at 08:58:47
I think that's a good return, especially in the modern era – did people expect him to stay at Everton his whole career or something? Also, all the gripes about the fee? Well, for a start, none of you knows what the fee is going to be because it's so far all paper talk, and secondly this isn't Football Manager where you get to stick arbitrary figures on player valuations because it suits you, with zero reason for those figures.
Every player will leave and, let's face it, we're up shit creek financially so of course we're selling Richarlison – it isn't rocket science.
We support Everton, we're a run-of-the-mill, mid-table (at best!) side these days. Spurs hold more weight in the modern game, and if you're going to quote our 'istory and claim we're somehow 'bigger' than them (my Dad's bigger than your Dad) then you're part of the problem at the Everton museum.
One player doesn't make a team and we need the cash (Today!) – it'll all come full circle and we'll move on, and in a year, you'll have some other player to complain about us selling – then you can do that again every few years and Everton will probably still be shit.
23 Posted 30/06/2022 at 09:12:01
Richarlison falls into that category – a player who gave 100% in every game. He and Pickford kept Everton in the Premier League. You wonder who will be brought in to replace Richarlison; whoever it is certainly won't be as good.
How a club can burn the best part of £500 million and be in a worse position than before Moshiri & Usmanov joined is reckless in the extreme. And then, to add to that, we have had to sell our best player to try and offset our FFP position.
Moshiri knows nothing about football, we know that, but he is an accountant – how could he possibly oversee leaving us in such a poor financial position?
Good luck Richarlison, you deserve to be playing in the Champions League. It will seem very strange seeing you in a Spurs shirt rather than the Blue of Everton. But I doubt there is an Evertonian who doesn't wish you all the very best.
I will be interested to see what deal we have got from Spurs. Knowing Levy, I will bet it will be Spurs who have got the best part of the deal – not Everton.
24 Posted 30/06/2022 at 09:24:48
25 Posted 30/06/2022 at 09:26:09
What a ridiculous situation to be in when a so-called millionaire owns the Club. Accountant, my arse, I wouldn't want Moshiri doing my books!
26 Posted 30/06/2022 at 09:26:35
I'd like to wish him good luck but I'd be lying. I hope he's miserable as sin while rotting on their bench, where methinks he's gonna spend a lot of time; injuries permitting, he'll find it hard to dislodge that front line.
Close the door on your way out, crying arse.
27 Posted 30/06/2022 at 09:26:49
28 Posted 30/06/2022 at 09:27:16
29 Posted 30/06/2022 at 09:30:26
Ah well, you will get your wish for one season of the former, no chance of the latter.
30 Posted 30/06/2022 at 09:30:34
Good luck to the lad, he always gave us 100% on the pitch, and I wish him well in his future career. I just hope for his sake that he has made the right choice of club.
As for Everton, I don't feel too depressed. I don't know about anyone else, but I think I'm beginning to sense some positive changes in the offing.
Possible new owners hopefully will see big changes at Boardroom and the demise of Bill Kenwright, giving us the governance and sensible management we have been lacking.
Already we have seen changes in the back room at Finch Farm and the appointment of Kevin Thelwell to advise on recruitment etc.
I still think we are in for a couple of tough, crucial years but, if we play it right and can make steady progress, with a new stadium on the horizon and the best support base in the world, we can be competing at the top of this division every season.
Maybe then players will see Everton as the best club to fulfill their potential and ambitions
31 Posted 30/06/2022 at 09:33:00
As for us poor souls, we barely escaped the drop last season and would not have done so except for Richarlison and Pickford. Richarlison is now in the departure lounge this morning, therefore it is vital, between now and the end of the transfer window, that we do good business. All is not lost and if we can re-balance the squad we might push closer to a mid-table finish in the season ahead.
32 Posted 30/06/2022 at 09:35:20
Just 18 months ago we had Ancelotti, a wonderful new stadium on the way, and the nucleus of a half decent team. Now we have no funding to finish the stadium, have lost 4 out of the top 5 players we had (okay, one through his own fault), and are desperately clinging to a hope that the shadow new investors aren't shysters.
Whoever organised the Pereira protests needs to do so again now. The current owners are breaking our club beyond repair.
33 Posted 30/06/2022 at 09:37:42
Good luck Richy, hope you go on to do well.
More concerned about the replacements we bring in, if it follows in the same window as the last few then I personally believe it will be the season we do go down.
34 Posted 30/06/2022 at 09:38:04
35 Posted 30/06/2022 at 09:38:13
All together a crap deal for Everton but look who did the negotiations with Levy!
36 Posted 30/06/2022 at 09:42:05
I somehow ended up on the UK Daily Mail sports page this morning(I know!) and the reactions of Spurs fans appears to be one of being rather underwhelmed? In this regard, I echo Christine's point, insofar as if Conte does not pick Richalison as a regular starter, and if the (increasingly) entitled Spurs fans don't find the spark with the player that we clearly did, I can see Richy's agent agitating for another move, especially if he stars in the World Cup.
Anyway, I'd have him back home on loan in a heartbeat. Best of luck Richy.
37 Posted 30/06/2022 at 09:44:26
You sound as cheesed off as I am.
Since Harry Catterick we haven't been a well run football club. Howard Kendal did wonders for a short period of time and that's about it in the modern era. The 11 years of Moyes was the final 'nail in the coffin' as far as challenging for honours on a consistent basis was concerned. Mediocrity was accepted by Kenwright and co as ok.
We then made many dreadful signings under Moshiri.
So here we are selling our best players and probably buying inferior players to replace them with unknown new owners buying the club.
The future looks very uncertain.
38 Posted 30/06/2022 at 09:47:32
The rush to sell Richarilson lands at the feet of Moshiri and the buffoons running this club. I wouldn't give them my money to go to the bar in The Dark House to get a round in… they wouldn't know what to do and would inevitably get it wrong.
[Written by George – an incredibly bright intelligent smart 73-year-old.]
39 Posted 30/06/2022 at 09:47:43
Everton have a history of happily selling their best players, be it Lukaku (who was never replaced) or John Stones, Wayne Rooney etc.
Richarlison took stick at times, from myself included, for lacking end product but there is no getting away from the fact that he's our best attacking player and we've lost 8-10 goals in a team that already lacks goals.
Do I trust the board at Everton to even remotely get this right?
I think we all know what the emphatic answer is.
40 Posted 30/06/2022 at 09:47:49
The replacement needs to hit the ground running and should not be another team's cast-off. We needed to sign a striker anyway to cover for injuries. Now we need two.
41 Posted 30/06/2022 at 09:48:38
We don't just need quality players but squad players as we are now paper-thin.
A lot of work in a short summer time before the season starts.
42 Posted 30/06/2022 at 09:55:20
A front line that includes Kane, Son, Perisic, Kulusevski, Richarlison and Lucas Moura sounds pretty decent to me. Add to that a midfield including Bissouma and Bentancur and they make us look pretty silly by comparison.
We might think we're better than them, but the evidence suggests otherwise (unless you want to keep recounting everything from the last century).
43 Posted 30/06/2022 at 09:56:56
Spurs have got a bargain there. I'm very sad to see him go, and wish him all the best, but I hope he only turns it on against the Red Shite.
44 Posted 30/06/2022 at 09:58:53
"What would Everton do, eh?" Yeah, I know what Everton do.
As for this new DoF why have him if we are just targeting the media crap like Winks etc. Hope to god I'm over-reacting because we can't keep relying on there being three worse teams no more.
45 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:00:23
We'll talk about the return of Tom Davies as if Andre Pirlo has come out of retirement.
We'll keep Gomes and think a midfield of him, Allan and Doucouré will all of a sudden create and score 20 goals between them.
No doubt we'll keep Rondon, and knowing Everton, would it shock that much if we try and re-sign friggin Delph or Tosun?
46 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:08:02
Get real Graeme. They aren't signing him for this money for him not to be starting. He will go straight in their starting XI and stay there.
20 goals plus I predict for him and a push at the title for Spurs. Conte is a top class operator and he will have a front 3 of Son, Kane and Richarlison. Which will be as good as anything in world football.
Kulusevski will play too, in his typical role as a midfield playmaker. With Bissouma anchoring. They also have a phenomenal young centre back in Christian Romero.
They have achieved all of this without spending fortunes. Levy may have his critics but he is extremely shrewd.
And at £60m. This is an extremely shrewd signing. Proven performer. Faultless in his commitment. Hardly ever injured. A Brazilian international and typically a starting player and a 1 in 3 goal record for what has been a woefully poor team at times.
47 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:08:03
48 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:09:15
49 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:10:36
Spurs offered 40m in writing at 4pm yesterday and Everton rejected it out of hand. The club are not happy with 60m but had to acccpt that for the June 30 deadline to ensure Frank Lampard has wriggle room in the transfer market
How has our owner and board got us to this!
50 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:14:18
51 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:14:31
Almost £80m in transfer fees there. Not a single penny recouped and the team regressed in their time here.
This is why people saying "it's not our money, why should we care" really should care! Gross mismanagement.
Let's hope that lessons have been learnt and we stop paying over-inflated fees and wages to footballers at or past their prime who have no re-sale value.
Focus on good value in younger, hungry players with upside in both playing and re-sale potential. Brighton and now Palace are showing the way. In the past even 'flops' like Lookman, Kean and Vlasic have made us money.
52 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:17:31
53 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:21:14
54 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:21:14
I'm off to have a good cry.
55 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:21:18
I don't expect to hear anything from the club until the deal is finished and despite internal reviews I can't see anyone having the courage, moral or otherwise, of putting their hand up as responsible for getting us into this mess and little idea of how to get out of it. By takeover or other this Board needs clearing out.
56 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:21:41
That makes it a 70 - 80m deal.
But Tottenhams outlay for the player will be much lower.
I caveat. Guesswork.
57 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:24:22
This is worrying. If this means that Richarlison has been sold in order to create the wriggle room for Frank to sign Harry Winks then I'm afraid we are doomed.
To replace Richarlison with Winks and expect to be any better than last season is utter lunacy.
As I previously stated, Richarlison is under contract. We cannot hope to replace a player of his quality. We should've kept him until our price was met (As Spurs did with Harry Kane)
Result - we keep a player of Richarlison's quality and he would give his all until at least the World Cup as he wouldn't want to miss out for Brazil.
Even more simply - if it's between keeping Richarlison and a transfer embargo - kee Richarlison as there is no way we will be able to replace a player of his quality. Especially if the avoidance of an embargo entails signing Harry Winks
58 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:26:04
59 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:26:43
60 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:27:20
We've done alright here as long as you ignore the likelihood of wasting the money on cack but that's another argument.
61 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:28:30
62 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:30:15
Totally agree with what you are saying:
"As I previously stated, Richarlison is under contract. We cannot hope to replace a player of his quality. We should've kept him until our price was met (As Spurs did with Harry Kane)"
But I do think the club has not been honest and had to sell before tomorrow's date to be in line with sustainability rules. If that is the case then the Ace card was with Spurs and we had no choice but to sell at 60 million as time was running out.
As with my previous post I do think we are doomed unless we have some miracle transfer business done in a short time.
63 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:30:40
Raphina at Leeds is valued at £65m but because of the sheer incompetence of the Board we had to sell for less than his market value at £50m.
Make no mistake any add ons will include Levy winning the Nobel Peace Prize, Conte's dog winning Crufts and Richarlison winning an Oscar (the latter possible but I digress).
So we had to sell because of EPL financial fair play regulations and Levy knew this. If you think Kenwright is a silent old mascot just happy to attend matches think again. He has his grubby little hands all over our club still.
I've said on here before he would only sell the club to an idiot who let him retain control and he found that in Moshiri who had little interest in being hands on or was clueless or maybe both? The fact he was scoffing away in Scott's negotiating this deal with Levy this week shows he is still very much hands on at the club.
After today - I would take anybody coming in and buying our club if it meant Moshiri and him being driven out. If they are not - we need to make that happen!
We must be the only club that spends £500m to go backwards and narrowly avoid relegation. The money that was exchanged on inflated transfer fees on the exhaustive list we already know is staggering to get us into this mess.
It was common knowledge Arsenal fans would have given away Iwobi but we pay £35m for him! The list goes on and on.
I wonder if this “strategic review†has two resignations at the top of the list? I very much doubt it!
I am furious with this today - not that Richarlison is leaving as we all knew that but the level of the transfer fee and to Spurs because we had to sell. As some say on here reminiscent of the Rooney sale and the common denominator - Bill Kenwright … still we've had some good times eh?
64 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:34:09
My fear is that he compounds this by a quick sale to crap owners as we have a massive task almost starting again and I hope Lampard, Thelwell and the rest and the right people to do it.
65 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:34:31
67 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:37:04
Everton are screwed and we HAVE to sell him TODAY before our accounts go even further into the red, yet people are upset about 60 million quid!? I mean really. Its madness to be upset over the fee, especially given our circumstances.
Yes we're in a bad position, but we're making the best of it by selling Richarlison, and we have to face the reality which is that the club has no choice but to sell him. I don't see a huge queue for any of our players, do you? Not even Richarlison!
The fact is we need the cash and we need it before midnight otherwise we're facing sanctions. Sad but true.
68 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:38:16
Best sort out some goals and creativity from somewhere, as this squad isn't up for a survival fight based on that front line and midfield.
Writing is on the wall for a tough season.
69 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:40:45
I mean, if you include the add-ons, we paid £40m for Dele. If Dele is worth £40m, then Richie is worth a billion quid at least.
70 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:44:22
The fee reported on various twitter reports is 50 million + 10 million in add ons
71 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:44:31
I am bitter and twisted about him going to Spurs, I was hoping for Real Madrid. I've historically never regarded Spurs as a step up from us, but just at the moment I am in denial. They have a good manager putting a very strong team together, their attack will be one of the best in the League next season and I think they'll close the gap on the RS and MC.
The bitterness will be watered down if the deal is revealed to be a good one, not smoke and mirrors with add ons and pre-agreed but delayed player swaps. Anything less that £65m and we've been humiliated .
There's still a chance if we buy well we can come out of this stronger if Thelwell and Frank can get the players in we need. There no need for excessive negativity yet , we need to see how this pans out for us. The recruitment over the next month will be season defining for the club.
Kevin Thelwell should just now, have blue flares, lofted Alsatians, and wild-eyed singing every day on his way into the office. That's how important these next few weeks are to Everton.
72 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:46:10
73 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:49:04
Then he becomes a Brazilian international, playing 36 times and scoring 14 goals. Winning the Copa America and scoring in the final, Winning the Olympics and being top goal scorer in that tournament.
Voted young player of the year and player of the year at Everton in successive seasons. Scores 53 goals and assists 14 times in 152 games.
Many wonderful goals and more importantly; goals against the best sides - Arsenal, Chelsea, City, Man Utd and away at Liverpool.
And his transfer value has only gone up £10m in this time - of which 10% is going straight to Watford.
I cannot get my head around this valuation at all. The club should absolutely not be held to ransom on this, whatever the circumstances
74 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:49:34
Do you suggest we stand firm and ask for £70m then sit back and wait for midnight to pass, incur potential fines and/or docked points? We have zero options here.
75 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:51:26
We do need to move on, and fast, with the season starting in 5 weeks. We are going to be late getting players in again like we always do.
76 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:51:34
But lets hope the new owners put us on the right road with a manager (for the first time in a long time) that has got the fans back on board.
This maybe the turning point for us all as a football club.
I will be intereseted to see how Conte reacts to Richarlison dropping to the floor a lot and not being the main man there
77 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:51:47
78 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:57:00
79 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:57:23
Stand firm. Take a hit on points.
If you take out Richarlison and replace him with Harry Winks then we will be more than 9 points worse off.
80 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:58:40
It makes no sense unless our fee to Watford was £35m and the add ons never materialised. Some clarity on that would be good. Otherwise we have sold him for the same price as what we paid for him but have to give Watford 10% of any fee over £40m after he improved with us.
I wonder if our fee to Watford was inflated as “compensation†for Silva? It's murky alright
81 Posted 30/06/2022 at 10:59:15
82 Posted 30/06/2022 at 11:01:16
I also don't really rate Winks as I assume you don't. Dennis from Watford seems a more likely candidate to replace him. Winks is coming because we're average Everton and it's all we can attract!
Remember when we bought Richarlison? Yeah, he was a Watford player with potential, nothing more. See above re Dennis.
83 Posted 30/06/2022 at 11:02:09
I still think 60 million is a bit light
Kenwright v Levy well there's only ever going to be one winner
Another top player sacrificed to incompetent management
84 Posted 30/06/2022 at 11:07:51
Well selling him and spending wisely (*cough cough ahem*) could/should set us up with a more balanced team capable of winning games without relying on one player to pull up all the trees every week.
Yes, I'm clutching at straws here but it made me feel a bit better for a minute.
85 Posted 30/06/2022 at 11:16:14
86 Posted 30/06/2022 at 11:17:12
Thank you Richi
You saved us last season and I don't doubt your passion for Everton Football Club.
I wish you every success for the future and will be the first to clap you on your return to the old lady as a Spurs player.
87 Posted 30/06/2022 at 11:17:58
From listening to the first half hour of Jordan and White on Talkshite the Evertonians ringing in were unanimous in saying we've got a good deal.
Personally I think the upfront fee is £10m short but I suspect that the club "needed" this to go through today for FFP reasons.
If that IS the case then Levy's dinner with you know who appears to have been where the agreement has been made.
Is Richi worth more? In my opinion yes, but I can see that the club is/was probably in a situation that put us at a big disadvantage when negotiating, which in itself is a sorry state of affairs.
88 Posted 30/06/2022 at 11:20:06
I don't think anyone outside of Everton actually sees Richarlison as more than a £50- £60m player. His value to us, it could be argued, is more than that, but that is not what his fee is based upon while we are in the weakened position in which we find ourselves. My fear for him is that he may have baulked his world cup opportunities if he does not get the game time and results he will need at Spuds. There is some merit at being a big fish in a smaller pond (and we ARE a smaller pond), as opposed to being an average fish in a big pond.
Whatever pans out I wish him luck but I wish Everton more luck.
89 Posted 30/06/2022 at 11:30:43
The finance handling at the club has been reported as being a shambles for years so what can we hope for without new investment.
Once again the rich get richer and the rest, well ?
90 Posted 30/06/2022 at 11:32:20
That transfer will not be the last we do in this window so let's see what the rest of the window brings although being honest I'm a lot more relaxed, than most fans seem to be, about Richarlison going.
91 Posted 30/06/2022 at 11:42:09
92 Posted 30/06/2022 at 11:43:13
93 Posted 30/06/2022 at 11:43:43
Richarlison is our best player and the most attractive to the market, so its no surprise that he is the one sacrificed to kick start a full rebuild. If others go as well I done really care.
What I care about is the rebuild being smart, planned, progressive and focussed on hunger and potential. Richie going now means we still have weeks to get that going so far better to get £50m/£60m today than 11.00 on the last day of the window. Take it, suck it up and move on.
94 Posted 30/06/2022 at 11:50:09
95 Posted 30/06/2022 at 12:07:19
Sam # 94 - Broja is the lad I want now.
96 Posted 30/06/2022 at 12:10:04
Moshiri, Kenwright and the board have presided over our demise. Do the right thing, agree the takeover and get out of our club.
97 Posted 30/06/2022 at 12:12:31
98 Posted 30/06/2022 at 12:15:27
99 Posted 30/06/2022 at 12:15:33
And why she scrutinises how much it costs me to what it takes for me to watch Everton and then doubles her money.
100 Posted 30/06/2022 at 12:16:02
He will feature regularly for Spurs. The move to a sixteen player game allows the top teams to use up to six front players over the course of ninety minutes with little or no loss of quality.
101 Posted 30/06/2022 at 12:25:56
But Spurs are doing their deals quickly and early.
I feel £50M is undervaluing him by £10M. He was one of our key players. I don't care Jesus went for £45M as clearly he's not a key player for Man C.
It's now all about Recruitment!
I hope we don't get any other Spurs players. I believe their unwanted players are generally decent but inconsistent. More worryingly, their attitude and lack of hard work appear to be an issue we don't need.
102 Posted 30/06/2022 at 12:31:11
As for the player himself he goes with my best wishes. He never stopped working, never seemed to down tools looking for a move, he just busted a gut for the club.
My only regret is that our managers consistently failed to see that playing him up front was a waste of his strengths and a hindrance on the team.
I don't know whether younger supporters see this the way I saw the sales of Ferguson or Rooney, or how my dad saw selling Alan Ball. My sense is that Richy was very well liked but not quite in that kind of 'loved' company. Maybe I'm wrong, or just more cynical after what I've witnessed in my 40+ years.
But it does feel like a dark day. We're selling a player in his prime because:
1 - We're not good enough for him to want to stay; and
2 - We need the money
When you put those two factors together it doesn't exactly fill you with optimism!
103 Posted 30/06/2022 at 12:32:01
104 Posted 30/06/2022 at 12:32:28
105 Posted 30/06/2022 at 12:36:29
Having said that I think it would be better for his International career if he stayed with us.
I don't see him as a £60m player though, £50m if we are lucky.
We need to be better than last year, the question is how, we could easily be left with a less strong squad.
Its eary doors yet and a lot can happen in the market but I feel Lampard has a difficult job on his hands.
Rumours about Dom.CL seem to have gone away for the time being, I would hate to see him leave as well.
106 Posted 30/06/2022 at 12:38:10
Cost nothing, you don't even know he's there but every now and then you'll smell a little waft of bullshit just to know the true value of Fresh Air.
107 Posted 30/06/2022 at 12:45:41
We buy the asset at £40m and amortise that over 5 years, the value therefore of that asset diminishes by £8M per year. In our accounts therefore Richarlison's value is actually £8M I think. Meaning the profit appears considerably larger in the accounts than the reality of it.
It has been a while now since I have worked in a bank but am pretty sure that is how it works.
108 Posted 30/06/2022 at 12:50:42
They take us for idiots, because we probably are idiots.
109 Posted 30/06/2022 at 12:52:31
Presuming that Spurs won't hand over £50m in one single payment would that not counter some of the effect of that amortisation?
110 Posted 30/06/2022 at 12:53:57
111 Posted 30/06/2022 at 12:56:05
112 Posted 30/06/2022 at 12:58:36
Hopefully we can reinvest some of the money in strengthening other areas. In particular defensive / central midfield and the right-wing spot, where we could ideally do with a left-footer.
We only really need Broja if Calvert-Lewin leaves. And I wouldn't be surprised if he stays to get games at Chelsea now that Lukaku has returned to Inter.
113 Posted 30/06/2022 at 12:59:06
114 Posted 30/06/2022 at 13:02:54
The defensive central midfield position needs addressing as a priority, though, so we are going to need one or two more player sales or their wages off the books to fund it. Frank looks keen on Winks for the role, so maybe we've got enough money anyway if that's the case.
Just a thought about the Hull kid Keane Lewis-Potter, he's had a great season. It's hypothetical but how would Lewis Dobbin have fared if he'd played for the likes of Hull last season? He has the potential to be as good or better than Lewis-Potter.
The lad needs to be given an opportunity to prove it. If it's not with us next season, he can tear up a few trees for the likes of Hull City for a season, then come back to us a hot property, all guns blazing.
Anyway, if we can bring in Broja, Zinchenko and Hudson-Odoi with the Richarlison money, it will have been put to good use.
115 Posted 30/06/2022 at 13:03:05
Significant that we got this over the line today as it surely points to the fact that we had to do this to keep the Premier League sweet. Doesn't particularly bode well for our ability to spend in the summer.
116 Posted 30/06/2022 at 13:04:44
As it stands, we have Calvert-Lewin, Rondon, Ellis Simms and possibly Dennis as our strikers for the new season.
Our midfield is average at best. Defence is below average... and we have a top goalie. That screams of another relegation battle.
Does anyone know for sure that we need to sell before the end of the month to avoid FFP penalties? Surely if we held onto Richarlison until after the World Cup, we would get more interest and a higher fee for him.
117 Posted 30/06/2022 at 13:05:08
Be interesting to see if the refs now protect him. Anyone like to lay odds on Tarkowski's red when he's kicked up in the air next season?
118 Posted 30/06/2022 at 13:07:16
I hope I'm wrong but I suspect Pickford will be next. When we offer him the new contract, unless it' a King's Ransom, he will be away. £30M plus but someone will want him.
As Spike Milligan said, “And what are we going to do now?â€
119 Posted 30/06/2022 at 13:17:01
120 Posted 30/06/2022 at 13:29:28
I don't think anyone knows for certain but, if there wasn't pressure to sell, then your strategy of keeping Richarlison until after the World Cup would be a no-brainer.
121 Posted 30/06/2022 at 13:31:56
I have never been totally convinced by Richarlison but there is no doubt that his performances in the last few fixtures saved Everton's Premier League status. Having said this, we were in this perilous position because he had missed golden opportunities to score and win matches in the previous games.
His work rate can't be questioned and whoever plays left-back benefits from playing alongside him. But he isn't a natural winger as he rarely beats opposition players in the way Gordon does and he isn't a very good crosser of the ball. Everton played him as the main striker in the absence of Calvert-Lewin but with only limited success.
He will be missed as his 10+ goals a season are important but, for me, if a player needs to be sold, he would be my choice rather than say Gordon or Calvert-Lewin. I will be surprised if he becomes a huge success at Spurs but I wish him well.
122 Posted 30/06/2022 at 13:44:59
We are going to struggle in getting quality players in as most clubs above us can offer more and better terms, we are going to have to rely on the pull of our manager and the reputation the club once had as an ambitious club.
We all knew that Richarlison wanted to leave and he must be commended on maintaining his own high standards last season that helped keep us in the Premier League. It is a shame that the people in power in the club don't have the same high standards.
I'm starting to get really nervous on the start of the new season. We may be getting rid of some of the high earners, but I don't see any improvements toward the starting 11.
123 Posted 30/06/2022 at 13:51:33
124 Posted 30/06/2022 at 13:59:58
125 Posted 30/06/2022 at 14:01:31
He must be worried that they might come for him next, which is very, very concerning for Farhad, but also very worrying for Evertonians, because due-diligence needs to be done on whoever buys Everton, but it does appear that Moshiri hasn't got the time for this, just like he's never had real time for Everton.
It was left to others. I actually feel sorry for Bill Kenwright, having to sit across the table from Daniel Levy, knowing that nobody else was really interested in Richarlison, whilst also possibly panicking, knowing that Everton needed a deal done quickly. That is until I realize that we have had to put up with this lying, deceitful, incompetent man for years.
126 Posted 30/06/2022 at 14:06:44
127 Posted 30/06/2022 at 14:10:04
Chelsea made an attempt to hijack Richarlison deal before agreement between Everton and Tottenham, in place since this morning for £60m. ðŸš¨âšªï¸ #THFC
— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) June 30, 2022
Spurs have full agreement with both EFC and Richarlison on personal terms. Just waiting for medical in Brazil and player signature. pic.twitter.com/SxyGFqdWwN
128 Posted 30/06/2022 at 14:10:49
We have only got rid of the players whose contracts were up so far which will help. But Tarkowski is coming in on a similar wage to Richie.
Also, it is beginning to look like Mina, Gomes, Allan and Alli are going to sit it out on high wages and then leave as free agents. Mina has apparently said as much and nobody seems to be after the others. Why would they?
129 Posted 30/06/2022 at 14:15:50
Funny, I've reached the complete opposite conclusion.
Buying average players with zero resale value is the main reason we're in this FFP mess. The fall-out of overspending on dross at the start of Moshiri's regime is set to hamper us for 3+ years.
As Sam H points out earlier, buying young talent like Lookman, Vlasic, Onyekuru and Kean has resulted in pure profit despite their failures on the pitch. These are the players we need to be pursuing. We'll find the odd gem and make some money.
Richarlison has been a top servant, and it's sad that we're now in a position where Spurs of all teams is a genuine step up.
The Premier League clubs really need to work together to amend Financial Fairly Play - a misnomer if ever there was one, and a system that entrenches wealth and talent in the established elite and ensures the gap widens season by season.
130 Posted 30/06/2022 at 14:24:28
Steady up, folks. He's a good, hardworking, passionate player. He is not irreplaceable. He scored a goal for us every 234 minutes, above average for a Premier League forward but by no means spectacular, and had only 14 assists in four seasons.
This move may also prove to be a major mistake for Richarlison himself. His positions are left forward, where he is not going to beat out Son, and striker, where he is not going to beat out Kane. Barring injuries to one of those two, his only hope of being a full-time starter is switching to the right side and beating out both Kulusevski and Perisic.
And if he doesn't, he'll be on the bench a lot -- which could cost him his cherished starting job with Brazil at the World Cup. Brazil manager Tite does not start players who aren't playing every available minute in their club sides. Richarlison is taking a great risk here.
Good luck to you, young man. You'll be missed.
132 Posted 30/06/2022 at 14:36:35
Also, my concern is if Calvert-Lewin has another injury-hit season, we'll be lucky to stay in the Premier League. Lampard needs to take a look at the young lad at Hull City, Keane Lewis-Potter, and sharpish.
133 Posted 30/06/2022 at 14:41:38
134 Posted 30/06/2022 at 14:42:38
It feels to me like the rapport he has with Everton fans - at the game and via social media - is as good as we have or have had for quite a few years. In short, he's going to be missed hugely - and I fully understand the frustration and anger amongst what feels like most of our fans, but the pragmatist in me knows we are a club on its knees.
We have had four years to build a successful team around Richarlison, and we have failed dismally. He would deserve his chance to go elsewhere even if we weren't in financial meltdown. The fact that his departure has been hastened by our own ineptitude just makes me love him more. His departure is just him doing what he has always done - saving Everton football club.
I wish him nothing but the best, as I feel he is one of the best people to play for this club this century.
135 Posted 30/06/2022 at 14:47:01
I agree entirely about Keane Lewis-Potter being a priority. Rumour has it he's close to Brentford for £16M, and he's worth a gamble at that all day. Apparently tho, we were quoted £30M from Hull owner, so either:
a) We are such a laughing stock now
b) The whole link was bullshit to begin with.
We also need to get Borja. If he's unattainable, Joel Piroe or Ben Brereton Diaz is an absolute must. We now need goals as well as midfielders who can win the ball and keep it.
136 Posted 30/06/2022 at 14:47:07
I wouldn't mind Dennis at the price quoted of £15-20 million. He's very young, strong, fast, similar scoring stats to Richi but more of a pure striker who could theoretically partner with Dom up front -- something Richi was never able to do successfully.
137 Posted 30/06/2022 at 14:47:38
To me, whether the fee is £50M or £65M doesn't really matter all that much, because it's all about how we reinvest and whether it sets us on a path forward. We need help on the wing, back-up for Calvert-Lewin and 1-2 players who can control the centre of the pitch. If that means Dennis, Zinchenko, Borja, Gallagher, or anyone else young, somewhat proven, and less than £30M, then we'll at least give ourselves a shot.
Gordon, Patterson, Mykolenko, Godfrey, Dobbin, maybe Simms take a step up, Calvert-Lewin stays healthy and starts banging them in, Gray is more consistent, Tarkowski keeps us organIzed and Mina either stays healthy or gets sold for £12M — if 80% of that happens and we're not in a relegation fight, I'll be happy enough this season. No small ask, right?
138 Posted 30/06/2022 at 14:52:51
For weeks now, I have been saying we have screwed up on FFP and only a sale would balance the books for this year's accounts and the sale would have to be done, before close of play on 30 June.
If we were fine this season, then there was no need to get the sale to go through today, we could have sold after today, to give us more transfer funds along with the £105 Million FFP limit for next season.
We simply had to sell today and Levy knew that, which now leads me to the next thoughts on the amount: something does not sit right with me for Levy to offer £40M yesterday, then agree £50M plus £10M add-ons the very next day.
Apart from Chelsea with a late bid today, no other club was in for Richarlison, so why of all people would Levy suddenly offer another £20M?
Well, my thoughts are a bit of the old brown paper bag under the table: Everton get the amount they need to balance the books, our FFP is fine and allows the new investors to take over, without any FFP sanctions.
Moshiri gets to sell the club, and everyone is happy, outside of the supporters' circle.
Levy is the toughest guy to deal with, he held all the aces, so to go from £40M one day to £50M and a possible extra £10M sets alarm bells ringing for me.
Whatever else, and no matter how many wanted Richarlison to stay, we simply had to sell one of our top players. We could have held firm and faced possible FFP sanctions by doing so; that could have affected the sale of our club.
What simply has to happen now is Bill Kenwright and his crew have to go, get the right people in at the top, press the reset and kick on.
139 Posted 30/06/2022 at 14:59:02
90 minutes reporting that we are interested to replace him with Stade Reims' El Bilal Toure.
140 Posted 30/06/2022 at 15:04:50
1. We had to sell a player for FFP.
2. Richarlison realised he wasn't going to achieve Champions League etc with Everton so pushed for a move. I'm surprised he went with Tottenham as they've won about as much as us!
3. Richarlison never loved us. At the end of the day, he enjoyed playing for Everton (I would if they were paying me money to do so!) and interacted with fans. I guarantee he does the same with Tottenham. His PR is good.
4. Is he irreplaceable? I personally don't think he is. I remember the season previous when Calvert-Lewin was leading goalscorer so he stopped passing the ball to him to try and catch him up!
I'm not hitting the panic button as I personally think we've already got (when fit) a pretty strong starting 11 without signings.
Whoever we bring in during the transfer window will get my full support and IMO I believe we'll be more than fine... (Hopefully!)
141 Posted 30/06/2022 at 15:07:11
We're going to miss Richarlison and he deserves the move but, apart from Calvert-Lewin, nobody in our team can score goals now. We need a lot of players coming in. The midfield needs an overhaul and someone who can create is a must.
142 Posted 30/06/2022 at 15:15:38
143 Posted 30/06/2022 at 15:17:29
When Marco Silva was sacked and Richarlison Tweeted, "Thank you, teacher", or something to that effect, I expected him to be off. A fellow Portuguese speaker, a long-term influence on his career, and all that.
Likewise, when Ancelotti scarpered, I thought the writing was on the wall.
It's testament to the lad that he stayed, fought, and is only leaving because (quite rightly) he wants the chance to play European football and [cough] actually compete for stuff.
He deserves a warm reception when he visits Goodison next season, although I hope, for our sake, he's waving from the bench.
(I expect us to re-sign him in 5-7 year's time, when his legs have gone.)
144 Posted 30/06/2022 at 15:18:35
145 Posted 30/06/2022 at 15:18:44
It's football. It happens. It always has done. It always will.
Owners, managers, players; they come and go.
There is only one consistent. That's us.
I do care but also don't care who takes to the pitch next season. I'll be there.
146 Posted 30/06/2022 at 15:25:50
You're telling me Richarlison starts over Son, Kane or Kulusevski???
147 Posted 30/06/2022 at 15:26:11
148 Posted 30/06/2022 at 15:26:14
Whether it's £40, £50, £60 million plus add-ons, or no add-ons, I assume most of us don't know and probably never will know the full details of this transfer or others, so what's the point of criticising the club and the management etc?
Levy is supposed to be a tough negotiator. However, we got Alli for what appears to be an initial nothing. Again, not knowing the full details of the transfer, apart from what's reported, and if the real Alli turns up and does well, that could turn out to be a great deal.
If Alli does well, how many of us will be prepared to praise the management in terms of that transfer?
I personally expect Alli to do well for us... if he's not sold this transfer window.
149 Posted 30/06/2022 at 15:27:29
Mike Gaynes @130 neatly sums up the reasons that Richarlison may find Spurs to be a poor choice.
Very disappointing to see him go there. Thankfully, no cast-offs coming as part of the deal, although still worrying that we may land Winks.
150 Posted 30/06/2022 at 15:30:18
Paul the Esk (or someone else on one of Paul's threads) suggested even that might not be possible given our worrying financial position.
The takeover may change that but since the buyers are not like the Saudis, I suspect we'll spend to breakeven point as a maximum. Probably 2/3rds is more accurate, I expect (but again, all guesswork).
What I do know is that during a sale process, it would be extremely unusual for the seller / target to have the freedom to spend / borrow in a big way.
To put it another way, I don't think we will be able to buy players until the takeover is resolved sometime next month.
151 Posted 30/06/2022 at 15:43:44
Back in the day, I went to watch Wales v Canada at Wrexham's ground, mainly because Tomasz Radzinski was playing. I'm not comparing him to Richarlison, but he had his moments for us and I was keen to see him play for a weaker side.
I got to speak with him afterwards and asked him about speculation that he might be leaving us. He told me that he was very happy at Everton and that it was the usual media rubbish.
We all know how the story ended, with the flat-headed prick fucking off to 'the promised land' – ie, Fulham.
Everton has been around for 144 years. Richarlison has been a great servant but we'll move on, hopefully to a new stadium, competent owners, and the sort of success he's leaving us for.
152 Posted 30/06/2022 at 15:53:05
At this stage, the sooner the deal is done the better, we can then move on and focus on who can be acquired to improve the first eleven. In addition, if the FFP requirements have been met due to the sale, then maybe it will give a potential new owner more reason to buy in.
153 Posted 30/06/2022 at 16:01:06
I feel a bit sorry for Richy; he is going from a real idol status to a tasty sub. Hopefully he'll do well there, just not against us!
154 Posted 30/06/2022 at 16:06:57
One of the few players who put in a shift and was sending messages to fans saying "Help keep us up". No doubt we will now sign Andy Carroll.
But hey it's not Bill's fault, he only sat down and talked to Spurs...
155 Posted 30/06/2022 at 16:09:14
I'm afraid you are spot on. Levy vs Kenwright at the negotiating table has always been a total mismatch.
156 Posted 30/06/2022 at 16:10:19
We did well to get 4 years out of him but only Everton could pay top dollar for a very unpolished player only to them develop him into a regular for Brazil as a 9. To then sell him on the cheap and give some of the proceeds to Watford, even though he has 2 years left on his contract. Joke. I was holding back on my board criticism until I'd heard the details of the deal, I was expecting £50M plus add ons plus Winks. Unbelievable.
Now how to spend it and move forwards? Given how many players we have released and wages we have saved I am working on the principle that we will be allowed to break even on that £50M.
So for me it's all out for Keane Lewis-Potter £16M (come on you can't tell me Brentford are a better proposition)? Zinchenko £20M and Gilmour £14M. If we can sell Moise Kean, Rondon or anyone else then a punt on Brereton-Diaz as a back-up striker or that Argentinian lad Thelwell likes in the MLS.
157 Posted 30/06/2022 at 16:11:00
It may be that the Spurs fans will learn to love him like we did, but I somehow doubt it – not when they have Son and Kane playing for them. The question is how Richarlison will cope with not getting the waves of love from the fans, like he gets for Brazil and he got from us.
Could be back to us on loan next summer?
158 Posted 30/06/2022 at 16:14:17
We are all a bit down. We basically just can't adapt to modern-day football and how to run a business, so get a move on, Yankee boy.
159 Posted 30/06/2022 at 16:19:31
My suspicion is that Daniel Levy told Kenwright that he would definitely do a deal today, and that's why the deal happened the way it did. We had to do a deal today, and I suspect no other club was willing to do such a deal by the end of today, but Spurs were.
Chelsea were the only other club mooted to be interested and, given the goings on at Stamford Bridge of late, my guess is that getting a deal done with them today was a no-go, so Spurs got the deal, at a reduced price, and everyone is 'happy' (note the quotes).
Whatever the reason for the FFP mess, the deal has been done purely off the back of it. Like it or not.
160 Posted 30/06/2022 at 16:28:39
161 Posted 30/06/2022 at 16:34:22
It's a reflection of our total fall from grace. Spurs were never historically bigger than Everton. They have been Champions of England twice to our 9 titles.
The fans kept the club up and this is how we are treated. The only player in the team with total heart and determination together with quality. Thanks for helping to keep us up, Richy. Don't blame him for wanting out of our basket case club.
Real shame he didn't go abroad and even more alarming how we haven't even made much of a profit. Shame on the likes of Kenwright and Moshiri. The same way Peter Johnson was ushered out after Duncan's sale, I hope the same happens here.
162 Posted 30/06/2022 at 16:40:05
All a waste of time though if skill and creativity is not introduced into the middle of the park.
I would like us to get our business done quickly with no rash spends on deadline day.
163 Posted 30/06/2022 at 16:48:25
It's hard to overstate the gamble Richarlison is taking with regards to his Brazil position. He's going to be directly competing for minutes with two of the best players in the Premier League. And if they both stay healthy, he's going to find league starts very rare.
So when the World Cup rolls around in November, let's say Gabriel Jesus has 8 in 15 for Arsenal (pretty likely) and Vinicius Junior is Real Madrid's newest superstar (extremely likely) and Cunha is starting every game for Atletico (very possible) and that fella Neymar is doing his thing (guaranteed).
And Richarlison has two starts and a dozen sub appearances for Spurs, with maybe 2-3 goals.
If that happens, his ass will be glued to the Brazil bench in Qatar. Because Tite only starts starters.
And Richarlison will look back on his guaranteed 90 minutes with Everton and be very sorry he left.
164 Posted 30/06/2022 at 16:49:28
If Lampard can land Ericksen, then we should be able to hold our own in mid-table. It would be nice to have a player who can take a good free-kick now that Sigurdsson, James and Digne have departed.
165 Posted 30/06/2022 at 16:54:30
I'd love a good defensive midfielder, maybe another winger (Richarlison played a lot in the left, I believe although hard to admit, his departure's left a void over there as well) and a good centre-forward.
Interesting to see how Calvert-Lewin will react now because he'll be the main one to score goals and, without Richarlison, pressure will arise on him, and he probably knows it.
So, it is enormously important for Lampard to bring in the right people and let go the bad ones in order to get the right blend and ease pressure.
166 Posted 30/06/2022 at 16:54:57
Steve 156, that's a decent list but we'd have to drop one to pay the man, so Gilmour is out for me. I think we could land on our feet with this move; just getting the business done so that we are in a position to negotiate is of considerable value.
167 Posted 30/06/2022 at 16:56:25
Those clubs can now have 5 world-class subs to break down stubborn defences. The gap will be bigger than ever between the top and bottom next season.
Anyway I don't begrudge him a move because he's been fantastic... but to Spurs, seriously?
168 Posted 30/06/2022 at 17:02:24
169 Posted 30/06/2022 at 17:03:28
170 Posted 30/06/2022 at 17:07:39
This is Everton we are talking about here. You watch this money disappear into the same hole as the Rooney, Lescott and Arteta money went into.
Lampard could quite possibly walk away if he doesn't get funds in this window. Getting Dennis would be 1 in and 5 out.
I can only think of QPR and Leeds that have recruited as badly as us. How the fuck are our board still in place???
Moshiri can't wash any more Russian money and needs to sell his smokescreen before his assets get frozen. Kenwright is clinging on like Mugabe or Sep Blatter. Nobody wants either of them at the club. Just go.
171 Posted 30/06/2022 at 17:15:26
Richarlison is a massive loss given his unrelenting commitment and talent.
Funding over football could well prove to be a false economy given the year ahead.
172 Posted 30/06/2022 at 17:18:16
And by all accounts his time at the club will end in a couple of weeks. So let it go.
173 Posted 30/06/2022 at 17:20:28
174 Posted 30/06/2022 at 17:24:09
It should make a difference of around £35M in terms of FFP and, if we can add two central midfielders, we will be well set.
175 Posted 30/06/2022 at 17:29:51
He's 20, now settled and used to our game and we clearly have a decent working relationship with Watford. Literally the same type of player. Forget the stats, it's not always about that. To me he literally fills Richarlison's position instantly.
Offer Watford £20-25M will add on. When they say no, leak it to the media like everyone does to us. Turn the player's head and get him here.
176 Posted 30/06/2022 at 17:33:51
I had Mobutu Sese Seko on my dictator bingo card but I think a Mugabe reference is close enough, well played. And yes let's take it easy on him so he doesn't get pissy and sell to some psychopath crypto criminal just to stick one in. We all know how much he loves this club.
177 Posted 30/06/2022 at 17:34:34
Anyway, he's Spurs' problem now and personally I think he'll be found out but it matters not a jot – we need Frank to swing a few impact deals like Gray and Townsend from last season. 3 or 4 of that ilk and we'll be miles better and the Brazilian will be a footnote in our recent history.
178 Posted 30/06/2022 at 17:38:17
Importance to Everton. 2020-21.
Goals 10. 1st
Points won 7. 1st
Most shots. 72. 1st
Goal involvement 35%.1st.
Source. Opta.
179 Posted 30/06/2022 at 17:41:16
Absolutely gutting to lose Richarllison. And even more gutting is that he's joined a Premier League rival who just a few years ago were our peers.
How we have fallen.
It's a disgrace that we lose him, that the club has lost him, and just think, if it wasn't for Qatar, he'd currently be playing for Brazil in the World Cup and his value would be 20-50% higher.
But the story of Everton's mediocrity in the Premier League continues.
Hopefully we use the money to improve. Hopefully we stabilise ourselves to enable us to actually build and improve.
But part of me just thinks, we're screwed. we'll probably waste the money plus an extra £20 million on 3 wastes of space.
180 Posted 30/06/2022 at 17:43:33
If we had 5 or 6 "problems" like Richarlison we would be challenging for the league. See Mal @178 to see how problematic he was.
181 Posted 30/06/2022 at 17:54:42
He scored at least 13 league goals last season also. 2 taken away as the ball kissed Calvert-Lewin and Gordon on the way in. And the VAR against Arsenal because his eyelash was offside.
182 Posted 30/06/2022 at 17:57:41
183 Posted 30/06/2022 at 17:58:06
184 Posted 30/06/2022 at 18:04:21
Are you sure you want to "guarantee" that Richarlison cracks that front 3?
185 Posted 30/06/2022 at 18:18:07
I know what Don Alexander would like to say. Further proof of what an utter blight Kenwright has been on our club. A stain on our history.
Anyway, I enjoyed watching Richarlison. He, Pickford and the supporters are the trinity that saved the club. Sad day.
186 Posted 30/06/2022 at 18:21:18
Richarlison gets a pay rise and a run at Champions League football.
However, we get to squander the money (whatever is left over from FFP) on some shite that is several levels below the outgoing player. As we did with the Lukaku, Gueye funds.
187 Posted 30/06/2022 at 18:24:52
Where my dog is in the morning when I can't see him and he's avoiding me. But I know he's coming back, so I relax in the knowledge.
The fact the BBC news presenters have started calling Kiev "Keeeev" to sound sophisticated. Are they going to start pronouncing Munich "Muenchen", Cologne "Koln", Berlin "Berleen", Vienna "Wien" or Paris "Paree"?
Where am I going with this? Lots of things bother, irritate and concern me. None more so than Everton. They literally give me sleepless nights at certain times of the year.
This transfer disappoints me. But we move on.
We fight yet another day. We're on our way to new ownership, a new board and a fantastic new stadium. We are a club. An institution. Not one player, as much as I like and respect him. In 2 years time, we are going to take over the City and paint it blue whoever is playing for us.
188 Posted 30/06/2022 at 18:30:05
Get those figures in before the deadline, then in a week or so, in the new FFP period, there is a gentleman's agreement in place, over an expensive meal maybe, to take Harry Winks for an inflated £20M?
189 Posted 30/06/2022 at 18:30:48
Thanks for the endeavour and the goals Richie, and the spirit. Keep on trolling our common enemies. Godspeed.
190 Posted 30/06/2022 at 18:35:40
191 Posted 30/06/2022 at 18:36:43
When Kenwright sold Everton, he got the best deal for himself, and now it's Moshiri's turn/ Although he's doing well with regards to stipulating that the stadium must get built, I just hope proper due diligence is done on whoever buys Everton, because things just feel “rushed†and it's imperative we get hardworking people who want to spend a lot of their time trying to make Everton great again, into our club.
192 Posted 30/06/2022 at 18:49:24
And as for that deceitful toerag who calls himself chairman I just hope and pray that he and his clique are removed by the new owners.
193 Posted 30/06/2022 at 18:51:09
Just imagine, if he flops at Spurs we'll probably buy him back for 80/90M next summer !!!!!!
194 Posted 30/06/2022 at 18:55:39
195 Posted 30/06/2022 at 18:56:49
Personally I will be disappointed if we don't have to wait until deadline day to get Ricky Villa on loan.
196 Posted 30/06/2022 at 19:02:54
I agree it's a peculiar move for player and club. I can only assume that Spurs are genuinely going for the title or Champions League and want 4 attackers to compete for 3 places.
They may also have concerns about Kane. Probably more for England than Spurs but he looks leaden-footed and exhausted sometimes. He looks like someone who is playing more football than he can cope with.
Anyway, while I wish Richarlison all the best, I couldn't really give a shit about Spurs now.
I am looking forward to seeing what our incoming transfers look like now – although that may have to wait until the takeover is resolved.
197 Posted 30/06/2022 at 19:06:25
Also very irritated at the ridiculous mess our owner has got us into with his meddling and Bill's continued influence on our pretend Board. It is incredible that so much money has been squandered on poor players and coaches.
To see our talisman go to Spurs is a kick in the guts. I don't care whether he is a success there or not. Everyone knows we are in a desperate situation regarding FFP and a change of owner looming. Trust our old friend Levy to pull our pants down again.
Perhaps we will feel better once we do some business to bring a few rays of hope rather than more clouds of despair.
My only solace is that Richarlison was something of a lone wolf and didn't find it easy making a partnership with Calvert-Lewin. Maybe Gordon, Gray, Townsend, Mykolenko and Patterson can put some crosses on Dom's nut.
198 Posted 30/06/2022 at 19:07:55
There you go, I have said it.
199 Posted 30/06/2022 at 19:10:21
That must have been a great liquid lunch.
200 Posted 30/06/2022 at 19:17:54
201 Posted 30/06/2022 at 19:20:42
He might shock by tearing it up at Totters but I just can't see it. He has average technique but is a mainstay in his national side – further evidence of the collapse of the erstwhile kings of world togger – Brazil.
I repeat, a few more like Gray and Townsend and overall we will be stronger.
Pack in whinging, ya gang of tarts!
202 Posted 30/06/2022 at 19:23:08
I'm going to try to keep the faith that we will manage to find the players we need to give us a mid-table finish. I will be happy with that this season.
Richarlison going is a blow… but it is what it is.
203 Posted 30/06/2022 at 19:25:55
An eternal optimistic fool.
But on a serious note, I do share the concern. I do hope this take-over is a break from the last 30 years. Clear out the old guard and make real change.
We will keep the traditions going, but change how the club is run, managed and governed. Give this management team a fighting chance.
204 Posted 30/06/2022 at 19:26:55
It's par for the course though, isn't it? We have a player that one of the Top 6 clubs want and off they go.
We are going to have to get very lucky if want to seriously challenge the best teams when we can't keep our best players or sign the very best players.
That in a nutshell is our problem. You can forget blaming managers, owners, whoever – if we can't match quality-wise the Top 6 teams' players, we are stuck where we are.
205 Posted 30/06/2022 at 19:33:44
To tie this to football and Everton, I'm quite sure our Mykolenko would prefer Kyiv.
206 Posted 30/06/2022 at 19:39:30
208 Posted 30/06/2022 at 19:51:12
Geev us a break, Danny!
210 Posted 30/06/2022 at 20:02:31
Spurs held us to ransom, offering £40M for a start. They knew today was D-Day; could we not get a better offer from another club before today?
I guarantee you, the Spurs deal is £50M now, rising to £60M, if and when we win the Premier League and Champions League.
I don't know who Frank wants to bring in, but we're a total shambles. I hope Kenyon and his consortium buy the club and say "Goodbye" to Moshiri and boot out Kenwright.
I wish Richarlison all the best. I'm gonna miss him, he always gave 100%. I can't blame him for wanting to play Champions League football but, in my opinion, he could have gone to a better club.
211 Posted 30/06/2022 at 20:12:55
That's what we bought last summer and almost got relegated.
But let's go for the same again.
212 Posted 30/06/2022 at 20:16:27
Richarlison get's to a better club and probably get's a big pay increase and Everton do the financial dealing before midnight as required.
From a fan's standpoint and also Lampard's, it's potentially a disaster with no adequate replacement lined up.
That may change but, given the dross that has been recruited over the years, we cannot be optimistic.
We all have opinions about Richarlison but overall he did well with little support.
I would love to know who Lampard has in mind, if anyone, but what we have left to do the scoring is next to nothing at present, so the future looks bleak.
213 Posted 30/06/2022 at 20:20:38
Richarlison had better have his shit together or he's gonna find his minutes are limited to subbing on late for Kane in the league games and a few starts in the cups.
214 Posted 30/06/2022 at 20:26:23
215 Posted 30/06/2022 at 20:47:54
Mad mad mad to think under Carlo and ‘lockdown' football we had James Rodrigues, Richarlison, Digne, Pickford, Mina, Sigurdsson. The spine of that team was great. Now, we are left with just Pickford and Mina. It's scary.
If the season started tomorrow, our team would be:
Pickford
Coleman Mina Tarkowski Mykolenko
Doucouré Allan Iwobi
Gray Calvert-Lewin Gordon
Subs: Begovic, Godfrey, Keane, Patterson, Holgate, Davies, Dobbin, Simms, Townsend, Dele Alli, Rondon
The depth just isn't good enough. It also depends what formation Frank is thinking for next season. Surely we can't be the only team in the league playing 5-4-1? Surely we have to go 4-3-3 and actually have a go at teams.
Scary times as a Blue.
216 Posted 30/06/2022 at 20:52:26
I've seen reports suggesting that Chelsea tried to hijack the deal this morning. Shame they couldn't have gotten their act together earlier in the week!
217 Posted 30/06/2022 at 20:59:32
You never leave Everton but, my goodness, they test us!
218 Posted 30/06/2022 at 21:03:35
"We should remember Richarlison for what he was – not just his goals. Incredible workrate. Defends and attacks. Wins balls and creates chances he has no right to and leads by example. We will miss his heart and soul."
You just listed why Conte wanted him and Levy went after him.
220 Posted 30/06/2022 at 21:16:27
And so, despite the “turn in fortune" in 2016, in terms of finance, yet again in 2022, in some ways to meet FFP, Everton sell one of the few players in the squad who gives a dam about EFC.
Hopefully this will see better days ahead of time for Goodison Park.
Now to see if any players come in, and if and whom may take over Everton.
The tides of fortune must turn soon for EFC.
221 Posted 30/06/2022 at 21:23:50
Also, there wasn't anyone else interested in buying him. Plus Spurs are not exactly in the same league for paying big money for players as the likes of Man City, Man Utd, and Chelsea.
But this is all down to that incompetent idiot, Moshiri. It wasn't that long ago that Everton would finish 4th, 5th, 5th, 5th, 6th, 6th as well as finishing back-to-back above Liverpool for the first time since 1937. And all with no money.
Moshiri also told us he would get us into the Champions League, but we're now closer to the Championship than the Champions League. How did that happen?
Moshiri, you have nearly destroyed and bankrupted our great club. You've been the biggest disaster since we last got relegated in the '50s.
222 Posted 30/06/2022 at 21:38:36
223 Posted 30/06/2022 at 21:48:24
Filling our squad with Townsends and Grays who have a few good games in 20 is a sure-fire way to the Championship.
Gamble on as many young lads with potential as possible. As proven with Richarlison, at the very least you get your money back (laughable, I know).
224 Posted 30/06/2022 at 21:54:43
£60m is a little on the low side for my liking but beggars can't be choosers and at least it looks like an all-cash deal. Those Winks rumours still give me the shivers.
All the best Richie, you deserve to have better players around you.
On the Everton front, at least the sale puts the financial hounds to bed for now. Just hope we can spend it wisely to balance the squad and get some solid decent pros in to make sure we're nowhere near the bottom next year.
225 Posted 30/06/2022 at 21:59:48
Gambling on young lads, as per Richarlison???
His purchase price was £35M to £50,M depending on who you believe, so in the real world, that's right out the window.
We need players for virtually nothing who can contribute and only the Benitez haters deny Gray and Townsend made a positive impact. One clown blames them for the relegation scrap – unbelievable, Jeff.
226 Posted 30/06/2022 at 22:13:06
The season doesn't start tomorrow, though, does it? So really, what's your point? And Tarkowski isn't officially an Everton player yet. Of course we know he's signing but, as of the time of this post, he isn't.
My god, we've sold a player who really only turned up at the latter end of the season. Admittedly, him the keeper and us saved us. Other than that, he leaves with no real legacy.
Frank will have his targets, of that I'm sure, he's too clever not to have. We will move on.
227 Posted 30/06/2022 at 22:13:48
229 Posted 30/06/2022 at 22:18:39
Having USM all over the club. Bidding 30m in naming right to a stadium without a spade in the ground.
Remind me how Moshiri earned his fortune?
Is it just coincidence that Usmanov has had his assets frozen and Moshiri now wants to sell up?
It is only my opinion. I'm sure that if it was fact the club would be in a far more perilous position. Maybe Moshiri was the school hide and seek champ, who knows.
230 Posted 30/06/2022 at 22:20:26
231 Posted 30/06/2022 at 22:28:44
232 Posted 30/06/2022 at 22:29:11
Thomas brothers, #211 and #223, I'm sorry but you guys are friggin' nuts. Gray and Townsend were two of the bright spots.
They cost pocket change.
Gray: 6 goals, five assists, three gamewinners, spectacular gamewinner over Arsenal, the perfect free kick that kept us up.
Townsend: 3 goals, all spectacular, gamewinner over Burnley and equalizer at OT.
If it weren't for those two guys, we'd have missed out on a dozen points and you'd be planning trips this fall to Millwall, Preston and QPR.
But hey, screw those guys and let's gamble on a bunch of the kids, right? That's how you stay up?
Whatever.
233 Posted 30/06/2022 at 22:43:56
I repeat, not once in his professional life has Moshiri been accused of doing anything illegal for Usmanov. Not even when the sanctions were dropping like cluster bombs on anybody and everybody connected with Putin. There was never even a whisper of an allegation against Moshiri.
There is ample evidence that he's a failed owner who found out that running a football club was way different than running a mining conglomerate.
There is zero evidence that he's a crook.
234 Posted 30/06/2022 at 23:02:14
But... we move on. Invest whatever money we do have wisely, and we should hopefully be in okay shape this season. Dennis and Zinchenko would be a good place to start.
235 Posted 30/06/2022 at 23:12:29
That was a tarnished silver lining. I'm only suggesting it could have been worse had Bill taken some unwanted off of Levy's books.
236 Posted 30/06/2022 at 23:24:21
He is obviously a very astute businessman. The bit that doesn't add up is him buying a football club then having little or nothing to do with it besides getting Usmanov to waste multi millions with nothing to show for it.
Maybe he has just had enough and will go back into running Usmanov's business interests...
237 Posted 30/06/2022 at 00:07:57
The guy is 67 and has $2 billion in cash -- $3 billion after the Everton sale -- and a yacht in Monaco. He can do anything he wants.
238 Posted 01/07/2022 at 00:08:32
239 Posted 01/07/2022 at 00:26:58
Lower half teams have to sell players to survive. Just look at Southampton. I've lost count of the players that they have sold to bigger teams and it has kept them in the Prem. We are better than that. Frank has to tighten up the defence so that we avoid the relegation scrap next season and then the financial constraints will be relaxed. Then we can start thinking a little bigger.
240 Posted 01/07/2022 at 00:47:39
241 Posted 01/07/2022 at 01:09:50
Agreed 100% about those 2 signings, much as Richie's late season goals kept us up - so did their earlier contributions (and Gray's brilliant free kick v Palace).
But you left out Townsend's goal celebration v Utd, Ronaldo was so pissed he wouldn't even shake his hand after the match!
We didn't have many bright spots last season, let's milk them eh?
242 Posted 01/07/2022 at 01:27:31
I like Townsend as a player and I look forward to his midseason return.
243 Posted 01/07/2022 at 06:33:14
Yes, he often played well for us but lauding him for effort just shows the paucity of the rest of the squad. Effort and commitment should be the minimum requirement not something we edify and worship.
He's chosen to leave us and he's not exactly gone to one of the genuine big clubs. He's not our concern anymore and I for one wont be fawning over him when we play Spurs next season. I'm hoping he has a stinker and gets kicked all over the park!
244 Posted 01/07/2022 at 07:01:40
245 Posted 01/07/2022 at 07:07:00
The problem is far too many blues think we are a big club. We aren't. Modern day Spurs dwarf us. We are akin to Southampton, Newcastle, Aston Villa etc in the minds of other fans and these delusions of grandeur do not help.
It all gets Kenwright off the hook as the man has run us atrociously for the best part of 30 years, getting to just one final and one 4th-place finish.
Until him and his mediocre ambitions and the insistence of fans that we are a big club (rich history, yes; actual modern-day big club; no) change, then we'll never ever win another trophy, never put a side together that can consistently challenge, like Spurs actually do.
246 Posted 01/07/2022 at 07:12:21
The select few who played against Chelsea did themselves proud, I think Lewis Warrington will be taking one of the midfield slots.
Simms, Dobbin I think will be ready and so will Tyler Onyango. Charlie Whitaker I think will another one to watch for and will train with the first team.
247 Posted 01/07/2022 at 07:12:56
248 Posted 01/07/2022 at 07:29:10
I don't think too many of us would be complaining then.
249 Posted 01/07/2022 at 07:42:35
A squad full of players of the level of Gray and Townsend will have us struggling next season.
We need better if we are going to improve as a club.
Hopefully the club can be clever in the market this summer and bring in some much needed quality. I won't hold my breath though.
250 Posted 01/07/2022 at 08:02:16
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10972287/Leeds-Burnley-drop-complaint-Evertons-spending-threatened-legal-action.html
251 Posted 01/07/2022 at 08:32:40
My point is written in the post mate.
Our squad depth right now is awful. It concerns me that we only got 60m for Richy. That will not go a long way at all when clubs are asking for silly money for their players. Maybe get one or two players with that. When we need about 6/7.
252 Posted 01/07/2022 at 08:36:51
Richi's sale "allegedly" gives us a clean slate for new player purchases.
I think the Leeds, Burnley stuff is/was a separate issue under the umbrella of FFP.
253 Posted 01/07/2022 at 08:55:31
254 Posted 01/07/2022 at 09:14:25
255 Posted 01/07/2022 at 09:15:37
, but I think we couldn't keep Richie, as he wanted to go. I also think our financial position is so dire that we had to sell him before the end of June. whether or not we had to sell soon, it certainly is a coincidence that the deal was concluded on that date.
As for how much we got for him, well, the club are in a poor finanacial postion and everyone knows it. It's the same as someone going into a pawn shop and saying to the owner "Now listen here my good man, I want a top price for this family heirloom"
The second word of the reply would likely be "off"
256 Posted 01/07/2022 at 09:19:43
Hope we learn from the £500m pissed up the wall, and then having to sacrifice a player like this.
Hope we get some quality into a side that is heading for a relegation scrap - and without a talisman.
Another dark day of giving up a quality player.
257 Posted 01/07/2022 at 09:22:54
His constant diving and play acting was very off putting imo. Attacks would constantly break down because Richarlison would prefer to hit the ground in dramatic fashion, usually to no avail as refs cottoned on to him - unlike the rs players.
So good luck to the lad. I wish him all the best and hope to see him strop at Goodison when we beat spurs the next time we play them.
258 Posted 01/07/2022 at 09:23:49
If Erling Haaland was sold for under £60 mil isn't this a good deal for us? Or was Haaland a release clause fee?
I think £60 mil is good value. Sad day for us, though, to have to sell.
259 Posted 01/07/2022 at 09:27:15
I couldn't agree more with everything you said. I actually think £60 million is a good price for him.
As you say, a great effort from him to keep us up but I remember a few games he was poor or just falling to the floor consistently.
I am more struggling to see how he fits in the Spurs team; I really do think Conte will not put up with the strops and I think he will be benched a lot.
260 Posted 01/07/2022 at 09:29:40
261 Posted 01/07/2022 at 09:31:35
Hopefully now that 'year' is closed and our books are marginally more balanced, we'll work out a wheeze to spend some more cash on arrivals.
262 Posted 01/07/2022 at 09:32:35
I'm looking forward to seeing the press and pundits changing their tunes on his antics now that he's one of "them" – "definitely a touch", "he had to go down" and "he's being kicked to bits, what do you expect him to do" etc etc.
All my Spurs mates are like "meh" and "he's a sulky bastard– he won't last long with us".
263 Posted 01/07/2022 at 09:32:56
As an aside to the important news above, we sold him for a minimum £55m which seems like decent business given our dire financial straits and immediate need to sell yesterday.
Players come & go and like Colin, while we owe him for keeping us up, the way he played is in fact the bare minimum for a footballer - it's a shame the rest of them didn't show up all season (bar maybe Iwobi towards the end).
I'm fairly philosophical about footballers as I approach my half century - the days of getting upset about players are long gone for me. It's probably the only good thing about getting old!
264 Posted 01/07/2022 at 09:34:47
265 Posted 01/07/2022 at 09:42:09
I like the look of Dennis, quick, clever and can score goals.
Richarlison is not universally liked or rated very highly by our rivals. Most fans of other clubs haven't seen his defensive game, his superb heading ability. They do recall his rolling around on the turf and sulky mush.
Probably why we couldn't get top dollar for him.
266 Posted 01/07/2022 at 09:44:07
I'll add Richarlison came back from two tournaments with Brazil a few days before the start of the season, he scored three goals from then until the start of the New Year; he then scored seven league goals during the rest of the season.
Being honest, I'll give him the two goals against Brighton and Brentford which were rightly his, both losing games by the way, as were three of the six goals he scored at the end of the season.
One of the goals he scored earned a point against Leicester City when he could have gone home with the match ball if he had converted the other chances he missed in that game to go along with the many good chances he missed in quite a few games between January and the end of the season.
His work rate is good but losing the ball very easily to the opposition and putting them on the attack negates much of this work rate. He was a decent player but any fan who thinks him going makes them as upset as when other real star performers left the Blues are over-reacting.
Yes, he might have been one of our better players but just look at the rest of this very poor squad.
He's gone; let's just get on with it.
267 Posted 01/07/2022 at 09:53:03
But the last couple of days have got me looking at the stats, and his really aren't spectacular, even in a poor team. Emmanuel Dennis has contributed at least as much as Richarlison, in an even worse team, and he's valued at about a third of the price of our Richie.
It's been great having him – a real character in a pretty anonymous squad – but we should be looking to replace him with someone who can match the effort with output.
268 Posted 01/07/2022 at 09:57:15
And I fear even worse ruination is on the way if the new owners are as shady as is being reported. Even more good times to look forward to…
269 Posted 01/07/2022 at 09:58:14
Spot on, Michael.
270 Posted 01/07/2022 at 10:03:52
Sad to see him go, so enjoy your one season in the Champions League, Richie, and we just hope your place in the Brazil starting eleven at the World Cup is not threatened.
Kenwright Out!!
271 Posted 01/07/2022 at 10:04:27
272 Posted 01/07/2022 at 10:04:28
last year we were virtually transfer neutral whilst refreshing our full backs, adding two good wide men who surprised us, and brought in Deli Alli, who may, like Alex Iwobi, have a few on here eating humble pie eventually. (If not he goes having cost barely nothing).
We have now shifted some high earners and banked £55m.
The pressure is off financially. Tarkowski is an upgrade on the squad in an area we had numbers but not much experience when the treatment room was Mina's training ground.
We must now be looking to bring in some quality youth/experience in the middle of the park and up front.
A couple of £20m signings and some astute loan dealing (Not Al Ghazi Please) and we can look forward to seeing a squad develop.
Most importantly, when eleven guys in blue, whoever they are, run out on to Goodison park in August, we must greet them EXACTLY as we did in the Crystal palace game. Let's play 12 v 11 every home match.
If we can do that, then we won't have to suffer the turmoil of last season.
273 Posted 01/07/2022 at 10:17:30
On that basis, spending £20 million for Emmanuel Dennis or £30 million for Armando Broja is not the way to go. We have to look for real value in the transfer market.
274 Posted 01/07/2022 at 10:27:04
It's a well-trodden path that one.
Honestly I don't think he's going to find what he had at Everton. I just don't quite see it.
Anyway he's gone now. Good luck to him but we move on.
It's 1 July. Time to start doing our own business.
275 Posted 01/07/2022 at 10:37:19
A single player shouldn't be the only person to make the team tick but he so often did due to his athleticism in closing down opposition players.
He'll do well at Spurs under Conte and has many good years ahead. Son and Perisic are no spring chickens.
We know all to well how injuries have often robbed us of being able to play our strongest or a settled team. Richarlison missed very few games.
Mina can not be relied on and sadly needs moving on. Gbamin the same.
Big season for Dom. Less competition for the striker position and he needs to prove he's over his own injuries and is good enough to help us become a strong Premier league team.
276 Posted 01/07/2022 at 10:38:29
277 Posted 01/07/2022 at 10:44:25
New kit deflection announcement made several weeks late.
Stadium update to follow?
278 Posted 01/07/2022 at 10:46:16
He doesn't play for Everton anymore, so I don't care about him except when we play Spurs and he's an opponent.
Hope we're signing a couple of fast, tough midfielders and the injury Gods give us a break this next season.
279 Posted 01/07/2022 at 10:48:17
In a team that doesn't score many goals we have sold one of the few that CAN score a few.
So over to the board again now to find a hardworking player that scores 10 goals from a wide area.
280 Posted 01/07/2022 at 10:48:52
My point on Richarlison still stands. I know we can't afford £35m this time around but there's plenty of young lads out there who we can go and get (on a budget) and develop into very good premier league performers.
Where we're at right now, the Southampton model looks pretty good to me.
281 Posted 01/07/2022 at 10:52:37
Nice one Kenwright.
282 Posted 01/07/2022 at 11:04:40
Gordon has taken a good few seasons to come to the fore and even he is far from the finished article.
Branthwaite needs a loan despite making his debut two years ago now.
We need players around the age of 23-26 that can do it for us NOW.
283 Posted 01/07/2022 at 11:04:59
For me this feels, short of relegation, like rock bottom. Your biggest player wants out to join a club we aspire to compete with. The Moshiri reign is in ruins. But there is only one way up from rock bottom. Hopefully we will have new owners who can financially re-set us and give Frank a bit of wriggle room. But please, let's steer clear of any more Spurs rejects. Winks is just an English Gomes. I'd sooner roll the dice with some relative unknowns, desperate to break through.
284 Posted 01/07/2022 at 11:09:09
Why would we want to replace him?
We don't need like for like. We need a vision of the reinvestment and to build something different.
The same existed with Gana leaving and Lukaku. The obsession within the media of trying to replace a 25-30 goal a season striker - this wasn't what was needed.
Sensible reinvestment of that fee was what was required.
Rather than being reliant on such a striker, we should've redeveloped our attacking options and adjusted the system.
Just like now. We don't need to find a player to replace a battling forward who gets 10-15 a season.
We need to replace the qualities of what he brought. And even augment the squad with such qualities.
So first and foremost - he was up for a battle and a fight. Invest in players with those qualities.
He was rarely injured - invest in players with that quality
He was a good age when we had him, with room to get better and develop. Sign players with these qualities
He was international standard and generally a talented player. This is the most difficult part - identifying the talent. But for me, don't buy the talent if the first qualities I've mentioned are absent.
We need Cahills not Van der Meydes.
We need Naismiths, not Sandros.
I.e Forego supposed talent in favour of effort, attitude, commitment and age.
Get the fundamentals right and then add quality to a hard working and cohesive team.
285 Posted 01/07/2022 at 11:59:59
Hopefully this money is invested wisely but who can trust Moshiri/Kenwright to do such a thing? So what to do? Keep our powder dry until the yanks takeover or see what rejects Man U have to offer?
286 Posted 01/07/2022 at 12:00:09
Hopefully this money is invested wisely but who can trust Moshiri/Kenwright to do such a thing? So what to do? Keep our powder dry until the yanks takeover or see what rejects Man U have to offer?
287 Posted 01/07/2022 at 12:15:10
Since 1970, I think it's Big Joe? Latchford, Lineker, Lukaku. The Yak nearly got there as did Cottee, but surprisingly Graeme Sharp didn't either.
288 Posted 01/07/2022 at 12:17:05
Apparently during the medical, the doctor tested his knee reflexes and he went down holding his face...
289 Posted 01/07/2022 at 13:03:17
290 Posted 01/07/2022 at 13:18:09
I just wish he had gone to almost any other club, but Spurs! I wish him well as a person but hope Spurs are fighting relegation next season end and exit Europe at first sniff!
291 Posted 01/07/2022 at 13:23:06
As the squad stands, I fear relegation next season.
292 Posted 01/07/2022 at 13:37:05
Richarlison.
I know he probably had assistance writing it, but from the heart. I'm sure that had we provided the circumstances and it was his choice, he would have stayed.
293 Posted 01/07/2022 at 13:39:15
294 Posted 01/07/2022 at 14:34:02
I'm sorry but I just don't buy that as a strategy. Investing in youth and letting them develop with us is the only way out of this mess. Lukaku was 21 when he joined on loan, Richarlison was 21, Stones was 20, Calvert-Lewin was 19, Vlasic was 19, Lookman was 19.
What they've all got in common is that we made or could make (Calvert-Lewin) significant profit on them. I know, I know, we should want success on the pitch and not success on the P&L, but we've had neither for years now.
I take your point that you need to blend this with some shrewd experience in the squad to help the younger players but, in my opinion, I'd rather we invest any and every penny we have in lads with potential & sell on value, and make up the rest with the ‘seasoned pros' we've already got.
As an example, Nathan Patterson and Vitaliy Mykolenko are a great start! Those two signings had me dancing. More of the same please!
295 Posted 01/07/2022 at 14:41:32
Haaland had a release clause which Man City (and probably only Man City) activated because he wanted silly money in wages.
How City get away with FFP, I will never know. They have a squad full of players who must all be on over £100k a week. Yet nothing changes. It's laughable to me.
Richarlison to me was worth more than we sold him for. If I was Kenwright, I would've said to him “I'm really sorry but we haven't received an offer over £75M and that's what we value you at. You still have 2 years left so let's see what happens in January after the World Cup or next summer.â€
However, because of FFP, we have had to sell – a football club has had to sell their best asset – because of a rule put in place which simply put isn't fair. Everton should take the Premier League to court over it and claim unfair treatment.
I'm sick of it being one rule for teams like us, yet Aston Villa, Man City, Liverpool, Man Utd (who are defo the worst for this), Spurs, Chelsea, even Wolves to an extent – they all seem to spend whatever they want and nobody bats an eyelid. Everton though…. Ohhhh, we can't have that!
It's all gone to pot this Premier League. I almost wished the Super League went ahead. At least the ‘new FA' could've sorted out what FFP really meant.
296 Posted 01/07/2022 at 14:52:51
When Moyes was here, he would fire off lines like "Everton don't sell players cheap." He'd say players weren't going anywhere, even when it was obvious they were going, and we invariably sold better. Where was any of that this time?
Why didn't we put out statements saying "We've had a lot of interest and we'll only sell him for the right price," or something along those lines?
It looks to me like we've been done over a bit by Levy here. We've only made a modest profit on a proven Premier League and international talent.
I can only hope we reinvest the money wisely. For a change.
297 Posted 01/07/2022 at 14:55:48
298 Posted 01/07/2022 at 14:59:59
Absolutely spot on.
299 Posted 01/07/2022 at 15:20:50
What a Chairman.
300 Posted 01/07/2022 at 15:24:56
The guy wanted to leave last summer. He was persuaded to stay another year – despite Carlo then abandoning him and us.
Although I agree completely with Dave Abrahams's less than effusive assessments of him. Perhaps that's why I'm not so bothered really.
301 Posted 01/07/2022 at 15:28:41
What could go wrong?
Simply answered by Marcel Brands this morning who claims the hierarchy would not stop interfering in the philosophy and transfers.
Resulting in a financial mess and a dogs dinner of a squad.
The sooner we get Moshiri and Kenwright out of the club the sooner things will start to change for the better.
302 Posted 01/07/2022 at 16:42:05
That''ll be the most important transfer of the summer for us.
Richie's gone so now eyes on who we bring in. CM is an absolute priority and a RB wouldn't go amiss either. Hope Patterson comes through but who knows after his injury.
303 Posted 01/07/2022 at 16:44:43
Only risk is if Kenwright or Moshiri have anything to do with how the money is then spent…..
304 Posted 01/07/2022 at 16:46:29
Just a matter of weeks now before we finally remove the white elephant in the room.
Press the reset button, start the rebuild and we will be alright. Let's face it, we certainly cannot be any worse than the last 27 years of having the club run by the most incompetent Chairman in our entire history.
Richarlison had to go, simple as, due to clowns messing up our FFP, he gave us a year longer than I expected.
Once these new owners come in and replace those at the top, I see a brighter future at our club.
305 Posted 01/07/2022 at 17:23:49
I'm hoping this is the beginning of the Thelwell era. Sell at peak value for a profit, reinforce with young, relatively inexpensive talent that has eventual sell-on value.
As the other article mentions regarding Brands, management has to stay out of the way of the DOF. Do not meddle, let the man do his job.
Okay, Mr Thelwell, weave your magic. Use the £60 million to find a CM young gem around £10 million. It's the way forward.
Oh, and also, it's time for Anthony Gordon to really step up. Richie gone means Anthony needs to turn into the major threat from out wide for Everton. Work on your finishing, son.
306 Posted 01/07/2022 at 17:29:23
307 Posted 01/07/2022 at 17:35:49
308 Posted 01/07/2022 at 17:52:03
Reports suggesting that it's £50M up front then £10M in add-ons. From that, we owe Watford a few £millions as the sell-on fee.
So from what I've read, the "cash" which will be available to Lampard is somewhere around £35M!
309 Posted 01/07/2022 at 20:00:53
Still, he was close to being one of the few Everton actual Fighters during the past few seasons, so even if he just warms a very expensive near-pitch seat for the chance to play in the Champions League, that will be his choice, and I won't slate him for it.
Oh, but I'm a very bad person, so I hope Tottingham (that's the right spelling, right? ;P ) I may have read too many '60s-'80s British football cartoons in my youth (...), but may Tottingham never succeed to win whatever they've failed to win so far in the real world!
Sorry, Richie! I wish you the best for moving on, but hopefully your new club will still continue to be a runner-up! For anything! ;D
311 Posted 01/07/2022 at 20:22:34
That would allow us to see a grown-up Gordon, instead of the hit-and-miss, but never too worried, player that we had at times last season!
Yes, he tried to always run at whatever, but this is where I hope Frank can prove that he'll know to use what he's got for the right occasions, and then rest those who may not be right for the occasion...
With the right management, I truly think Gordon might be a shining beacon for the future! If I'm wrong, well, I know who'll tell me that I was wrong! And I won't mind! That's why I'm still at ToffeeWeb 20+ years later. ;P
312 Posted 01/07/2022 at 20:40:30
Richarlison was the talisman of our recovery at the end of this last wretched season. The emotion he showed on the touchline and his positive antics on the pitch inspired me as a fan who had begun to lose all hope. He drove us forward as Pickford defended our goal heroically. And yet now he's gone.
The apparent lure of the Champions League triumphs once more. While understanding the attraction of playing at the Bernebau or Nou Camp, I fail to see how Richarlison will enjoy life more at Tottenham. How will he replace the adrenaline of that golden night against Crystal Palace under the lights at Goodison, with fans and players who love him?
What also annoys me more than saddens me is this alleged need to sell a player before 30 June as a result of this FFP. Ridiculous. To even be in that position, if true, is testimony once again to disastrous management at boardroom level. Did we let him go too easily because of this? Who knows?
At the end of the day, it sticks in my throat to see the likes of Tottenham coming to our club to pinch our players because they have money, because they are in the Champions League, because they are in London and because they are a beloved member of the Sky 6.
314 Posted 01/07/2022 at 20:50:47
Glad you've said that as I've had doubts too about Gordon's end product. We could also do with him beefing up a bit more. Richarlison was a tall strong lad and will be missed.
315 Posted 01/07/2022 at 21:50:48
Are finances that bad at Everton? With not enough money for transfers and players' salaries, the new stadium will open in 2024 and could be with Everton in financial doldrums.
316 Posted 01/07/2022 at 21:55:57
Yes, the finances are that bad. I suspect the BBC report reflects the timescale over which the Richarlison fee will be paid.
317 Posted 01/07/2022 at 22:00:47
318 Posted 02/07/2022 at 01:40:44
We gotta hope to hell Gordon really, really steps up.
Julian, mate -
Don't be down. This is business. It happens. Richie is a great player and was undoubtedly a rock in our recent "Troubles".
Let me try to bring some hope to you - Kevin Thelwell. This fella is bonafide. He can rotate a club out of heavy earners and fill them with energetic kids looking to make their mark. I have a ton of confidence in the man.
Richarlison is being sold at the right time. For once, Everton are selling at top value, and they'll look to fill with young talent.
We have to start to buy early and cheap, and sell at top value at the player peak. Thelwell will do this. Couple that with a manager who wants to play the right way, and does well with younger players, and there is a recipe for exciting footy and success.
Keep the faith, Julian. We've sold Richarlison at the right time, and a good price, and we've just executed good business for the first time in like 6-7 years! He'll be missed, but look to the future my friend. We need to pivot, this is just the beginning.
319 Posted 02/07/2022 at 03:40:28
I agree with your optimism on Thelwell and I look forward to seeing who he brings in under the current strapped circumstances.
320 Posted 02/07/2022 at 05:12:31
I'm hoping this sale of Richarlison is the beginning of a competent transfer policy.
Sell a peak value, reinvest in younger players with potential.
That hope blinded my memory to some decent business you're correct, namely Calvert-Lewin and Gueye – but man, I loved Gueye and didn't want to see him go!
321 Posted 02/07/2022 at 05:23:36
But I did like the way we kept our word to him. The club promised to make his Paris dream come true if he stayed with us through the end of that season, and he played his ass off for us in those final months. Keeping that promise was the right thing to do.
322 Posted 02/07/2022 at 05:40:30
I also remember poor old misguided Steve Ferns arguing Gana was holding us back and we'd see the best of Silva's strategy and Gomes once he left …. Nice guy, Steve, but I can see why he stopped posting.
ps: Based on today's news, I assume you've wisely decided to skip the Minnesota game due to air chaos? I found some blues on Twitter so luckily it won't just be myself and Adrian Heath there.
323 Posted 02/07/2022 at 06:26:12
I'm praying that Thelwell and Lampard are allowed to do their jobs with minimal interference.
324 Posted 02/07/2022 at 06:51:48
Yes, I'm skipping the trip to Minnesota... it's flip-a-coin whether the flights take off, and my buddy the United season ticket holder will be away on business anyway.
Thought for a while Adrian would be gone before you got there. The Loons have won just six in 17 this season and the fans are restive. But last week United signed him to a new contract extension, so he can afford to buy for you and the other Blues who show up.
Have fun, mate... sorry to miss meeting you.
325 Posted 02/07/2022 at 07:39:41
326 Posted 02/07/2022 at 08:06:26
I have been mentioning Grillitsch for some time now on here. He is a good age (26 I think?) a CDM, just off the back of an excellent season where his stock is high. He is a tough-tackling No 6 who has an excellent eye for a forward pass (similar to Winks) though he also offers a bit more going forwards.
He would be a terrific signing and just the sort of player we need; more importantly he is available on a free as you mentioned. There hasn't been any obvious interest from the Premier League so I can only assume he doesn't fancy it.
Belotti is an interesting one, I really like this player and, although Italians don't always fair well here, he has all the attributes to make it. I would definitely take him, I want to keep Calvert-Lewin and I don't think they could play together as a front 2 (similar players, both No 9s); he would provide excellent cover and competition for places.
It was only a year or two ago, figures of £80M were being discussed for him. If we could get him and Dennis as Richarlison's replacements, I would be absolutely delighted. Rondon shifted onto the UAE or MLS for buttons. I want to see Simms or Dobbin given minutes this season.
Much seems to depend on the system we are going to play, the evidence appears to point towards 3-5-2 with marauding wing backs. It's Thelwell's preferred system; with everyone fit we could play this.
My concern is that we can't cover the left-wingback slot if Mykolenko is not available. For this reason, I would spend money on Zinchenko, he could play well for us as part of a midfield 3 and cover left-wingback if needed. This has to be Patterson's breakthrough season.
I simply don't understand the interest in Lingard – decent player, yes, but unless Dele is leaving (that would represent excellent business if we could get anything north of £10M for him in MLS), there is no room for him, Iwobi and Lingard in a side short of money and short of a decent No 6 and mediocre No 8s.
So, with the above-mentioned system, we could play with 3 in the middle and chose from Allan (I would keep), Doucouré, Iwobi, Grillitsch, Zinchenko (or my dream loan, Gallagher), Dele, Davies, and Gbamin (as cover?). This is why I like the idea of signing Dennis – he can play as part of a front 2 or further wide if we shift to 4-3-3.
Lots of ifs, buts and maybes but, as mentioned above, Thelwell has been brought on board for this sort of problem.
For Brands haters, I say just watch him go. His transfer record pre Everton was exceptional, his transfer record post Everton will again be exceptional. All he needed was to be allowed to do his bloody job. Something our egotistical, moronic board simply wouldn't allow. Instead, we buy his silence by making him a member of the board. So screwed up, a basket case of a club.
327 Posted 02/07/2022 at 09:56:03
I wonder how Patterson will do next season. I'm not sure we can expect him to hit the ground running. He's played very little first-team football over the last few years and, though he seems to possess some raw ability, he's had rare opportunity to develop defensive know-how.
I expect that (somehow!) Coleman will be starting the season as first-choice right-back. Again!! Though perhaps playing 3-5-2 gives Patterson more chance to play and express his attacking capabilities.
328 Posted 02/07/2022 at 15:50:38
329 Posted 02/07/2022 at 16:09:49
I know it means something different in your neck of the woods but could you refrain on TW from using expressions like, "planning trips this fall" as it evokes still sensitive emotions.
330 Posted 03/07/2022 at 00:12:06
All the very best of luck, Richie. In my opinion, you never let us down and always played for the shirt. Be lucky, apart from when you play against us.
331 Posted 05/07/2022 at 11:19:53
332 Posted 05/07/2022 at 11:30:46
333 Posted 05/07/2022 at 12:00:28
Diiiiisgraaaaaceful. Shoulda been at least ten!! ;-)
334 Posted 05/07/2022 at 12:09:41
I think the one more year bit from Ancelotti came from this background:
Carlo Ancelotti issues update on Richarlison's future after making promise to Brazilian
And comments from Ancelotti that he would stay for one more year, or as long as he was manager!
Water under bridge, he is gone... Great flare photo, though, it will be on my Screensaver for a while!
335 Posted 05/07/2022 at 13:56:33
Shocking indifference. Whatever happened to "Once a Blue, Always a Blue"?
336 Posted 05/07/2022 at 14:36:47
337 Posted 06/07/2022 at 10:29:05
338 Posted 06/07/2022 at 10:37:02
It's about time the fans start questioning decisions, club policy and those responsible for it with more scrutiny because we don't move on, we move backwards constantly and it continues to be swept under the carpet.
Have we forgotten the disgrace of last season and the near-calamity already?
339 Posted 06/07/2022 at 17:33:12
May I just add that Everton football club has been badly run / managed for decades, first with little or no investment, recently with wasted investment.
The one constant in all of this has been Bill Kenwright, he of the rose-tinted spectacles, reminiscing about Everton's glorious past or speculating about an uncertain future whilst club assets are sold and the inexorable decline continues. I really do think it is time for Everton's own P T Barnum to depart.
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1 Posted 30/06/2022 at 07:38:17
His diving and sulking were annoying but his commitment was unquestionable. I wish him well in his career but I do think he's taking a bit of a risk joining Spurs, as he's up against some stiff competition to get into the starting 11 on a regular basis.
I'm sure he'll get a great reception at Goodison next season.