Premier League — Matchweek 13

Brighton finally make the breakthrough — clever header from Mitoma

That was a nicely constructed second goal for Southampton, but eventually (after an age) ruled out. I just hate this use of VAR.

I don’t care who it benefits or how many close decisions it’s “correcting” I hate it.
It’s fcuked football.

Worrying for us the teams below us look like they are beginning to find their feet this season.

Saints are looking lively.

Agree with you Michael. Took about 4 mins from the time goal scored to rule it offside. Not sure of the lines drawn were parallel so scorer looked onside. I thought he was off. Then decision given as Armstrong made a move towards the ball. The game is broken these days.

In other news, Tom Davies scores his first goal for Sheffield United. Now there's a player to divide our fanbase :)

VAR is absolutely killing football, there was nothing wrong with Southampton's 2nd goal.

Yes, it's happened to every side but Saints fans must be fuming at that, they should be ahead anyway.

They are a far better footballing side than we'll ever be under Dyche. Yes they'll, probably go down, but they try to stick to their principles, ie, play football – not hoof it to the centre-forward.

And Dyche will play exactly the same way on Sunday.

Ian @6
It was a good battling goal by Davies, plenty of determination shown and he managed to nick it past the keeper.

As for the Saints disallowed goal, I was certain they were going to award it, when it took so long to look at it, all the time, from first viewing to the interminable wait ended, I thought the lad who scored was well off, but by the time they decided, I thought they'd convinced themselves and me that it was onside.

Saints disallowed goal was karma for the one disallowed against Beto.

It looked like a goal to me, weird thing is VAR showed a green line and goal but then replayed the cross a bunch of times and ruled it out.

I couldn't hear the commentary in the pub but it looked like a goal, as was Beto's. VAR doesn't have the tech to have a straight line at the point of infraction so it's bollocks, marginally.

So our best bets for relegation nearly got 4 points against Liverpool and Brighton!

Hmm… and Wolves starting to play as well. this could be a very tricky month.

Dan, it was disallowed because Adam Armstrong, who was in an offside position, made an attempt to play the ball.

It may even have brushed his foot as the ball went past him to Archer, who scored. Rightly disallowed.

Wolves 3-1 down

Someone said the other day Wolves were beginning to look good, or something similar! 😂😂😂

Games not over yet

Lesta losing. Come on

Games not over yet!!

Another one for Brentford, need Forest to score against a worryingly resurgent Ipswich.

1 nil Forest get in there

Imagine scoring goals like Bournemouth lol

Results going our way

Don’t remind me Jim, still angry over that game.

Lampards Coventry losing. What a surprise

Just need one from the fat Geordies Paul

Right on cue from the Geordies

No new manager bounce, so far, for Leicester or Coventry, and no new manager bounce for Man Utd tomorrow!!

Let’s hope so Rob, I’ve got a good feeling about tomorrow.

Leicester getting thumped 4-1.

Van Nistelrooy out…….before he’s even in!

Results going our way so far.

Hat-trick of penalties for Kluivert! 4-2.

Rooney getting his fat ass felt again!

Last gasp equaliser for Palace.

Nigel, Plymouth are down to the bares bones due to injuries. But wrongly he may get sacked.

Hell of a match right now at Wembley. USA vs. England, top two women's teams in the world, the return of Emma Hayes, and the retirement this week of IMO the greatest women's keeper ever, Alyssa Naeher.

I know Joe but I also know a Plymouth fan whose second team is Liverpool and he never wastes an opportunity to rub my nose in it.

Rob,

Kluivert's hat-trick of penalties is the first in Premier League history.

Nigel, its bloody full of them down there. Even a coach that goes to Anfield.

Mike, we'll be lucky to get three penalties all season, never mind in one match!

Gabriel scores from a corner, again, for Arsenal.

Rob, one's chances of getting a penalty called are somewhat limited if one never visits the box.

Come on Everton we have a great chance of getting away from the bottom 3 in the next 2 games

A quick change of wording there, Mike! 😂😂

Sometimes very necessary, Rob, as you know.

Unfortunately we don't have the same feature available verbally.

2-0 to Arsenal. This is a stroll in the park for them.

Odegaard is a superb footballer

Never a penalty that.

3-0. Didn’t Arsenal score six at West Ham last season? If so, they are well on their way to a repeat score.

Kane off injured for Bayern at 32 minutes in Der Klassiker. Two Dortmund players already off injured as well. 1-0 Dortmund.

4-0. The stadium will be empty by half time.

Do you think the Hammers will be looking for another manager,Moyes is available

dead loyal those 'ammers heading for the exits

back to back bissaka

Same in Jersey Joe, where I live now, pity there isn’t a coach that goes to Anfield from here full of them, straight into the Royal Blue sea.

4-2. Crazy game.

'ammers coming back

Ffs, whats going on here?

cracking free kick

4 goals since your 43 post Rob

you doing some DIY Brian?

Oi, less of that dirty talk Mr Ferry. 🤣🤣🤣

I think you won't have Kane for the Nations League for a while. Hammy.

Right. Score predictions. Winner gets a season ticket.

4-2 arsenal BW

I'll go 6-3 Arsenal.

Nah, Nigel. Only two. I did mention 3rd and 4th Arsenal goals. 😀😀👍👍

the next international break is 5 months, I think. It will do England good not to have Kane available, not that I really care

Another Arsenal penalty.

Fabianski flattened Gabriel with a left hook. Should be sent off?

Pssst, Rob. Delay your posts m8. Dodgy box is behind. 🤣🤣🤣

Brian, runner-up gets 2 season tickets?

Comeback over. 5-2.

Brent. stopiiiiiit! 🤣

I think your 6-3 looks good Brian, though I’m going 8-2.

Sorry mate! 😂😂😂
Still waiting for the penalty to be taken. 😀😀

and they have to sit next to Rob Brent

It could literally be anything Nige. 😱

my 4-2 is looking pretty shit

Paul#74.
There's some worse names you could be jammed next to mate. 😛

Brian, how long you got left before half time?

hahaha

idle thought Rob, but your view in the Dock will not be as good as front row Glawdys Upper will it???

Paul #74 you cruel sod.

Upper Glawdys

The indoor games I ref go 45 minutes, and I have some where there aren't 7 goals scored.

Depends Paul. Hoping to get a front row seat in the upper tier of the south stand.

We don't need Kane we got Gittins - you're right Brent, cruel and unnatural

I know we aren't as good as Arsenal, but just look what happens when you attack teams that ain't very good

Good luck Rob.

Mike I don't think weve seen 7 goals at Goodison this season. 🤣🤣😱

Rob I reckon I'm a minute behind, in more ways than one. 😛

PF Gittens has scored the goal in Der Klassiker.

I'm a short arse myself, Brian.

I saw that MG mate and in the CL midweek

Wolves have conceded 32 goals already Brian, so it will be 0-0 and Broja will get sent off

Check out today's goal PF... that guy is freaky fast.

I hope not Paul. After we beat Manure anither three points midweek and we can breathe a tiny bit easier.

Brian, if we do that I'll be hyperventilating.

He'll have a first cap in early summer

Mike, me and you both brother. 👍

Bloody hell Paul I thought you were joking about Wolves having conceded 32 already

35 after Wednesday. UTFT.

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32 BW/MG

licking me lips looking at the 7 incher I just got from the local deli: roast beef - pepperoni - double cheddar - extra tomato - extra onion - extra oregano - oil and vinegar - thousand island - spicy mustard - and home-made broccoli and cheddar soup

Paul, lets keep your sex life outta this maybe? 😇

If the egg doesn’t play two up top against that defence at home then I’ll give up.

You don't put spicy mustard on it Brian?

I would for you Paul. 🥰

That sounds like about $15.

$7.50 MG - you got the multiples right - masses of meat too - $12.84 with the soup

Address of that deli please

they do delivery!

To Seattle?

Sounds like on lot going on there Paul!!!

You'd love it, Danny; Yanks are good at this sort of thing,

O'h for a 7 incher.

Jesus, just thumbing through tomorrow's match thread; I think that Paul Hewitt needs anti-depressants or he's making us need them.

Billy, you're a very naughty boy!

Brian stop it.

Moi? 😇

No winners on the score prediction so no ST giveaway.

“Come on Everton we have a great chance of getting away from the bottom 3 in the next 2 games.”

Who is this and what have you done with our Paul H??? 😘

Mark, he's all over the place and doom and gloom because world champs quadruple winner the mighty Warriors are so dominant.

But look Mr. Hewitt!

1St Helens 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2 Huddersfield Giants 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3 Wakefield Trinity 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
4 Wigan Warriors 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
5 Warrington Wolves 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

“Nigel, it’s bloody full of them down there. Even a coach that goes to Anfield.”
So do we Joe. They’re in the Harlech every home game.
The difference is ours aren’t glory hunters. Proper fans!
UTFT
KAGS!

Nah - you’ve lost me there Paul (F)
I’m with Paul (H) when it comes to the pie eating scabs!
They’ve won things Saints haven’t in my lifetime (the 2nd division championship) and I still remember that glorious 75-0 (NIL)
With great fondness!
UTFT and Never write off the Saints!!
Xxx

I was trying to be doubly provocative, Mark!

I bloody hate Them pie eaters. UTS

The gobshites of RL Paul (H)
But it’s footy season - get behind the Blues, lad!
UTFT

I'd love to be going into tomorrow game thinking we can win, but Dyche is so negative. He will have everyone sitting back and hoping to sneak a win.

This Man Utd team are garbage and, if we went at them, we would win. But sadly, Dyche won't do that.

Wigan is a much prettier and cooler place than St Helens.

“Doubly and MM” that's MY kind of woman, Paul.

Just had a nice French Bordeaux Medoc (Chateau La Croix de Marbuzet) with a ribeye and fried egg. What you drinking?

If we are talking wine:

"Trois pour douze livres"

Expensive but you get what you pay for.

Says who, Paul?

Ken Barnes, father of Peter Barnes, was the player who converted the hat-trick of penalties against Everton in December 1957, which prior to today was the last time it happened in a top-flight match. Dave Hickson was the Everton player who was sent off in the game. The defeat extended Everton's winless streak to ten.

Manchester City 6 Everton 2
Everton's game against City at Manchester was just about the most fantastic match I have seen in a long coverage of football. Just look at what it contained. Eight goals, a player sent off, three penalty kicks, converted by the same player, a name taken, several warnings issued and a post-war record by another player. What more could you wish? Source: Liverpool Echo

As an aside, Goodison under the lights was not revered as much then as it is today.

Everton are suffering from pylonitis – they have not won a Football League match home or away since they installed a floodlighting system on October 9 when they beat Liverpool in a friendly. The Everton pylonitis paralysis which set in from that moment is doubly vexing because, until they switched on for the first time, Everton had done practically everything right and were being spoken of as possible champions.

Nothing yet mate - it's 2:53 pm, but I have a lovely Washington State red blend for later and a smashing Joel Gott dry white.

Paul #130,

"I'd love to be going into tomorrow game thinking we can win, but Dyche is so negative".

Yes, don't ya just loathe negativity.

Smart work, Dr Stephens.

Paul – is that like 3 pm in the afternoon?

If so, is it Friday or Saturday?

Whichever, here in the UK I'd be up for a sneaky afternoon pint down the local…

Bit early for plonk tho, I'll give you that!

I'm just listening to your Bryan singing A Hard Rain. I love Saturday evenings when Everton haven't fucked my mood!

Btw - if anyone fancies some chilled music with a bit of drop-dead gorgeous, check out Morgan James and Postmodern Jukebox, Maps by Maroon Five.

We'll beat them fuckers tomorrow! UTFT

I love attacking football more.

That 7-inch sandwich sounds unreal,Paul, and brought back memories of being in New York and the absolutely brilliant deli shops.

New York deli's versus London cafe's? Two of the greatest cities in the world, but there can only be one winner!!!!

Mark I prefer listening to Loophole whilst drinking a good Valpolicella Ripasso.

We will definitely do the Mancs tomorrow.

Tony,

London is a shit hole now. Even Londoners say it.

Why do you say that, Paul, I love London.

I work with a guy from London, even he says over the last 20 years it's got worse.

I was speaking to a cockney lad before who had exactly those same sentiments, Paul.

Rough as fuck, but then it always was once you got away from the tourist trap, but what history, and you can still find a few characters in those 700-year-old pubs!

I've always loved London, and even though it's gone to the dogs, you simply can't beat an omelette with some jockey's – even though Paul's Reg Varnie, sounded fantastic!

The proof was in the eating, Tony. I left out that it was on rye. Good news, Marin, is that it's 5:44 here now and that red blend is breathing and in a glass at 6:00 and I've got the cricket on. Tony, omelettes are perfect in every situation. Just bought a new omelette pan, and it will be a sage, sausage, and caramelized onion omelette for lunch tomorrow after our points when an early drink is called for, Mark.

It's so silly to speak of London in the singular. London is thousands and thousands of things. The Peckham Rye estate in New Cross or Woodbury Brown estate in Finchley Park are rather different to where I/we spend summer off the City Road in Islington, a couple of minutes walk to Angel and a minute from the canal. I love my London.

Brendan @ 133,

"Trois pour douze livres" Expensive?

Is that for a pint? :-)

Fred (135), Yes Dave Hickson got sent off, apparently Everton’s captain said to the referee, after the fifth goal “ Ref.we need the white ball bringing on” because it was getting dark, Davie said “ It’s not a white ball he needs it’s a white stick” ——they never used red cards those days but Davie was given his marching orders!

Dear God, city are all over the place at the moment.

The media will be going mental with their two horse race for this year.

The Shite will have it won by February.

And the Redshite currently playing Shittee off the park. Can it get any worse?

With Dyche the answer is yes.

I'm watching the Liverpool v City game in the hope city cheer me up a bit.

But my god... if the other lot play like they are against us, it will be fucking carnage.

What a depressing day and it's not yet noon.

The only good thing is that Sky can't wank themselves silly about the greatest league in the world when it's a one horse race by Christmas. On the other hand, they'll be furiously rubbing themselves over whether the Shite can win the lot.

I hate football.

The shite are head and shoulders above everyone else. At least I don’t dislike slot as much as klopp, who was a complete bellend.

RS couldn't have played City at a better time.

Yes there is a long way to go but RS have a wealth of strikers to win any game and I cannot see any other team getting to them even Arsenal who's defense is a little suspect.

RS have a wealth of strength in depth so that it's no problem when players are missing through injury. It helps being wealthy just ask Trump!!

I, like all Evertonians would love an early Christmas present in the shape of three points against RS but those kind of miracles don't happen to the Blues. Still, we can but hope.

Problem is Tom we had our wealth and pissed it up the Wall.

The RS were in a similar fix with the Texan bloke and his mate but the financial crash got rid of them.

It's too early to call that Colin. Slotty looks like The Hood, is clearly evil although I haven't had a good look at his teeth yet - just wait until he starts his knobhead stuff with the turds in the Kop.

To be honest, I pay little heed to them seeing as we are on different planets these days, but I only just realised the RS are 9 points clear at the frigging top of the league!

Jeez wept, how bad can it get?

Colin I agree. They are on course to win the lot this season. It's taken me over 60 years but I've got them out of my system. I don't care who wins what anymore as I know it won't be us. If it's them, we'll, so be it.
What brings me a modicum of pleasure is that it will be under the leadership of Slot, a man I have no opinion of. And that the gurning Kraut will have his colon in a twist thinking " it coulda been me". Even now you can't get him off the back pages.

Look at the Cloggies that Everton have had, and then look at the ones across the park.

Dirk Kuyt, wasn’t very good but he worked his fucking trips out to become a success at Liverpool, whilst Drenta had all the talent in the world but didn’t give a fuck.

Shandy ended up getting rid of his wife for a lap dancer and snorting loads of Charlie, and Koeman, ended up being the ultimate unmitigated disaster, and was another who didn’t really care about our club.

Everton haven’t really been genuinely professional, with a real winning ambition, for a long time now, and this more than anything else is what I’m hoping the Friedkin’s can bring to our once great club, and begin to resurrect us.

Tony the one thing that summed up the Kenwright era was him appointing a schoolmarm with no commercial experience as CEO whereas around the same time the RS appointed Peter Moore a hard-nosed businessman with experience in sportswear and computer games.

Whilst he was there, they won the Premier League and the Champions League.

Whereas Li'l Miss Sunshine? oversaw a disgusting decline in our fortunes.

Hopefully TFG are looking for a CEO with grit.