Transfer Window Madness as Rumour Mill runs riot

Ant Sorvoja
1 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:18:49

Supposedly it is now Ndiaye to Spurs and Richarlison coming back.

What is going on here with our owners???

Steve Brown
2 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:18:55

Tottenham reach agreement to sign Iliman Ndiaye with Richarlison heading back to Everton

Tottenham Hotspur have reached an agreement in principle to sign Iliman Ndiaye from Everton, with Richarlison heading back to the Merseyside club.

Sources at both clubs, speaking anonymously as they were not authorised to do so publicly, say the moves for Ndiaye and Richarlison are separate and not linked. The deals are subject to personal terms and medicals.

The Athletic.

Jeff Armstrong
3 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:22:51

So much for Ndiaye wanting Champions League football,

Ant Sorvoja
4 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:26:33

Looks like a Domino effect. Supposedly we are now in advanced talks with Grealish.

Here is an update from Fabrizio Romano. “Everton are in advanced talks to bring Jack Grealish back to the club, negotiations proceeding well over loan deal.

Grealish, giving priority to #EFC return to be completed early next week if all goes to plan.”

Andrew Merrick
5 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:41:40

So now Illy is going where is our ambition, and what happened to ace recruitment, phew

Mal van Schaick
6 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:42:19

I would go with Richarlison, he understands what is required at Everton and I don't think that he really wanted to leave.

He could be rekindled at Everton and we know that he can score goals.

Andrew Ellams
7 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:50:16

Can we all look at ourselves and really say we'd be happy with swapping Ndiaye for Richarlison if he wasn't an ex-player?

Keith Harrison
8 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:53:22

If we are definitely selling Illi, do not include him in a swop deal for Richy, open the market, and ask City, United, Arsenal, Spuds and Al Hilal - deffo not the redshite - for their highest bids. We should be able to get north of £90 mill for him then.

Re-invest in a quality Striker, RB and CB, Keane to West Ham for £15m and cancel Aznou's loan to cover us on the wings as Moyes does not want Grealish back.

Rocco Bugaj
9 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:54:04

For me, Richarlison is a bit of a wild card. When he's injury-free, he's a top striker. But it remains to be seen what kind of form he's in.

In any case, Richarlison is someone who identifies with Everton.

As for Ndiaye: Thanks for the time! But greed wins out. So much for "joining a club that plays in the Champions League"

Josh Horne
10 Posted 30/08/2026 at 10:58:13

Richarlison coming back is so Everton.
When will we ever learn?

No other club interested, has failed at Tottenham. A serial loser, just what we need.

Rob Hooton
11 Posted 30/08/2026 at 11:01:46

I don’t want Richarlison back, he seems to have had his time and has been very poor for Spurs (but then, who hasn’t?). He’s had a few injuries and going back rarely works.

Saying that, if he does return I’ll cheer him on and hope I’m wrong!

Glad that the Armstrong bid has finally been knocked back, well done fans and Moyes for letting the board know what a stupid mistake that would have been. He needs a new long term contract ASAP.

Jeff Armstrong
12 Posted 30/08/2026 at 11:08:11

I wonder if Ndiaye has actually agreed to go to Spurs?

We'll find out by Tuesday night I suppose.

Rocco Bugaj
13 Posted 30/08/2026 at 11:08:27

Josh
Who hasn't struggled at Tottenham in recent years? Various managers, no settled squad... And yet, Richarlison had a better season in the Premier League—with 0.51 goals per 90 minutes—than Barry (0.21) or Beto (0.26).

Dave Lynch
14 Posted 30/08/2026 at 11:10:03

Josh...if you're going to make serial losee statements back it up with facts!

Richie has played for 2 basket case prem teams, this is not the 70s or 80s, players careers are not over at 30 anymore, look at Wellbeck for Chelsea.

He'll be fine with us and is a much better striker than what we have.

Scott Hamilton
15 Posted 30/08/2026 at 11:25:31

Sky now reporting Ndiaye to Spurs and we get Richarlison in return.

Assuming we also get a big lump of dosh, I’d be happy with that deal.

We get our boy back (and he definitely knows where the back of the net is) and if Illy really wants to go to that shower then, frankly, fuck him! I’ve loved having him at Everton and I’m grateful for his service but if that’s the level of his ambitions then it’s all about money, not success.

Ian Bennett
16 Posted 30/08/2026 at 11:25:57

Ndiaye out, Richarlison & Grealish loan in.

About £60m added to the coffers. Net spend of zero.

Steve Brown
17 Posted 30/08/2026 at 11:27:32

Ian, it is exactly what they did at Roma.

Not a surprise.

Tony Hughes
18 Posted 30/08/2026 at 11:31:09

At least this grubby, underwhelming transfer window has flushed TFG out and we now know for sure what they're about.

Mike Doyle
19 Posted 30/08/2026 at 11:31:42

Ian.

That’s my take on how things stand (& Kenny Tete - though cannot work out if he is a free or not).

Seems like the whole mix is conditional on Ndiaye to be sold.

Ian Burns
20 Posted 30/08/2026 at 11:40:20

Hi Michael - your article clearly shows the frustration we all feel with these damned rumours - roll on Tuesday night!

As far as your list is concerned - beyond delighted over Harrison Armstrong.

Less so about losing Ndiaye and replacing him with Grealish, that’s a huge no from me.

Given the erratic form of our supposed strike force I can understand Richarlison/Balogun but Tete? - Please no!!

Ian Wilkins
21 Posted 30/08/2026 at 11:47:04

Everton are choosing Spurs for Ndiaye because they’ve offered the best money and by hook or crook we are selling someone, at least one.
Ndiaye isn’t choosing Spurs, he wanted City or United. City have chosen Gakpo. Liverpool offload another donkey for a hefty fee no doubt and bring in Barcola.

I wasn’t expecting us to break spending records in this transfer window but I believed we were prepared to invest upto our SCR limit. I accepted the words of Kinnear that Owners wanted to invest and move our club forwards. I thought our crack recruitment team would unearth a gem or two. I hoped. More fool me. My hope is extinguished. Our Owners have no interest whatsoever in moving us forward on the pitch.
This is a soulless commercial acquisition for them, we’d be better off with different Owners. Ones who want a commercial return on investment but know they have to have footballing ambition to make it work.

Martin Berry
22 Posted 30/08/2026 at 11:50:19

Why would Illy go to Spurs ? he isn't that dumb

Jim Bennings
23 Posted 30/08/2026 at 11:51:23

TFG are a pile of shite.

I'm really not liking what I'm seeing to be honest.

Now looks like Ndiaye will leave to Spurs, a club we could have sent into oblivion three months ago.

We just seem intent on selling the best players and replace them with players who are past their peak

Scott Hamilton
24 Posted 30/08/2026 at 11:52:55

Thanks for the summary, MK.

If Ndiaye is determined to leave - and if he’s mercenary enough to want to go to Spurs - then, thanks for everything Illy, but off you go.

Richarlison, Grealish and Balogun would certainly sweeten his departure.

And not selling Armstrong is like getting a new signing!

Tony Abrahams
25 Posted 30/08/2026 at 11:54:07

Surely we should be basing the price of Ndiaye, around the price that Liverpool are getting for Gakpo?

The BBC, have in their report suggested City, will have to pay around £85M for the Dutchman. I know they are biased towards Liverpool and I’m equally biased towards Everton, but there is just no way that Gakpo is a better player than Ndiaye, so if this is true then I’d definitely be expecting us to get at least £60M, plus Richarlison, if I’m being totally honest.

Mike G, did tell us we wouldn’t hear much from the silent Friedkin’s Mark T, but he hasn’t got much else right about these current owners, so hopefully you’re correct and they flip us sooner rather than later mate.

If Tete signs, then Angus Kinnear has already lost his credibility, and when I read people say these Americans stopped us going into administration, I immediately think to myself “Why do people say things that aren’t quite true?”

It’s bad enough on ToffeeWeb but when it’s coming from the CEO, is it any wonder I worry about the football club I love?

Seriously, if the deal that I’ve just seen proposed for Ndiaye (£60M) and Richarlison coming the other way (£35M) plus Kenny Fucking Tete for another £9M, then these bastards need hanging on the banks of the Royal Blue Mersey.

Clowns to the left, Jokers to the right -- and us poor bastards are stuck in the middle once again.

Jim Bennings
26 Posted 30/08/2026 at 11:54:13

As much as I love Jack Grealish, is selling Ndiaye and replacing him with Jack or Richarlison really moving forward?

Mal van Schaick
27 Posted 30/08/2026 at 11:57:40

Thanks. Keep Ndaiye and Armstrong, get Richy, Baloguin and Grealish in plus a decent right fullback. Not Tete. That would be acceptable to me.

Jeff Armstrong
28 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:00:52

35 million for Richarlison is about 20 million overpriced, last year of his contract, on a downward curve with no sell on value goes totally against what TFG have been spouting.
If Ndiaye is determined to join Spurs then let him, but for a decent price 70 million ?
Then spend 35 million on a decent striker in the 24-27 age bracken if any available.

Kunal Desai
29 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:01:30

£60 million for Ndiaye
£35 million for Richarlison
£7 million Tete

TFG/Kinnear/recruitment committee. Get out of this club you absolute shower of motherfuckers.

Chris James
30 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:06:07

Afternoon folks!

Managed to somehow not post a response below yesterday night, so have added here anyway as I think it reflects where I was and answers some Qs.

But obviously the world has changed overnight... the Armstrong deal is off, and fan emotion has won out over finance!

Whatever the footballing outcome, this is a genuinely impressive achievement from those who sang at Bournemouth, posted online, or made their voices very audible, I doff my blue and white cap to you all! It does go to show we fans can have real influence and that the powers that be do listen, and take our views into consideration [although I think Moyes also had a role to play here].

I am genuinely happy with this outcome and hugely look forward to Harrison developing at the club and fulfilling his tremendous promise now and in the future. Due to his form and fan feeling it feels likely he'll be getting more chances to prove his worth.

If this deal was totally separate to the Ndiaye affair, and we also end up keeping Illiman, who I strongly believe is our best attacking player, able to start and finish moves, carry the ball, beat a man and genuinely change a game, then I'll be even happier.

However, if this even partially cements the need to sell Ndiaye to a competitor, as has been suggested in the press this morning, then the situation will be a little more bittersweet, as it will weaken our starting 11.

We clearly need more players, but I strongly sense there is a need to recoup before we spend again, so someone needs to be sold. Clearly the offers for Beto, Patterson, Keane, O'Brien, etc have not materialised, or at least not at a sufficient level to have meaningful impact.

Then again, maybe the Ndiaye move would have happened regardless. The Al-Hilal deal seemed virtually done earlier till the player pulled out. City and Arsenal interest obviously turns heads with the promise of Champions League football and trophy opps, and Spurs have the big money, so perhaps the two moves are effectively distinct, regardless of financials.

As for the Spurs reported offer, I love Richarlison, but wouldn't personally do an Ndiaye swap, BUT if the latter is going anyway, then taking a forward we know, who offers something different, plus a chunk of cash it wouldn't be a terrible move.

If we get Richarlison, an actual right back [even a slightly 'meh' one], and also regain Grealish, who competed with Ndiaye on the left flank last year and does offer similar creative/dribbling impact, then we'll arguably end the window with a stronger squad overall, certainly one with more options.

Thanks to Mike Gaynes, Jimmy Carr and others who've backed my fan status and attempts to rationalise a tough situation. Absolutely zero shade to those who haven't, this is a game of opinions after all and I respect and admire anyone who dons the royal blue jersey! COYB!!!

++++++++++ Last night's post that didn't, um, post +++++++++++++++

@ Mike Allison, my intent is clearly stated, repeatedly. In several posts.

I didn't bring up Curtis Jones, I responded to someone else that did, agreed that I didn't personally value him at £35M, but pointed out why the wider football market might.

The point about this move alienating the fan base was total valid, as clearly many fans are utterly incensed.

I'm not happy with it, but I'm struggling to get as livid, and was trying to understand why. Maybe I've just been worn down over the years and am generally more dispassionate about trading! Discussing the potential sale of a young homegrown player isn't smart, but feels far from the biggest outrage an owner has perpetrated in the last few decades, maybe even the last few years.

Having seen Everton operating for years under the Damacles sword of crippling, possible club ending debts, witnessing the relentless false dawns of potential new stadiums or fund raises, and then riding Moshiri's managerial merry go round and transfer cash bonfire that led to a PSR points deduction and sent us spiralling towards the drop... I actually feel we're in one of the most stable positions we've been in the last decade or two and can actually push on.

Clearly selling a chunk of our best players won't help that goal, but trading a few could.

Lewis Barclay
31 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:06:41

I do hope that the apparent “scramble” to sell a player/players is because the club need to fund some already lined up coming in!

Andrew Merrick
32 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:11:29

Tete being toted as the target all the while, sum of ambition marker that.
We should ask more than £60m for illy.
Seperate deals for him and Richy leave the City move option open, and facilitate a grealish loan ?
Still need another full back with Aznou loan and Beto could go too.
Still a lot in the air

Gavin Johnson
33 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:12:16

I posted on TW last night on whether anyone else had noticed that Richarlison wasn't even in the Spurs squad yesterday. I thought then that something was in the offing.

I didn't anticipate that Ndiaye would be going the other way. I thought he was going to City. I also said I wouldn't pay more than £20m on Richarlison who is less mobile these days.

That is the only way this deal would be conducive for me, with Everton getting £80m.

If Everton only got £60m, while also paying £35m on Richie would mean we've well and truly had our pants pulled down. Kinda ironic after many of us mocked Spurs for their recent business with Man City.

Scott Hamilton
34 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:14:56

Gavin (9) - Spurs’ manager came out yesterday to say that Richarlison is one of three players to say they want to leave the club, hence his absence.

Frankie McGrath
35 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:15:30

£60m seems too low, should be £70m plus. £35m too high for Richy. RB was a key position, so £7m/Tete is particularly disappointing. I would have preferred more money on RB, not to bother with Grealish and to spend more on a striker instead.
But thank goodness Armstrong deal off. That’s the biggest news as far as I’m concerned.

Derek Knox
36 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:16:59

Jim B @ 3 " I'm really not liking what I'm seeing to be honest."

Are you looking in the mirror Jim or reading this ? :-)

Joking apart, not a happy fan myself, NO TO TETLEY the has been TEABAG !

Can't see Illy going, but money drives many footballers these days !

Wouldn't say no to Richie, BUT at the right price/deal !

Dan Brierley
37 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:17:34

The transfer record since TFG takeover:

IN:
Carlos Alcaraz
Thierno Barry
Mark Travers
Adam Aznou
Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall
Tyler Dibling
Merlin Röhl
Brennan Johnson
Tyrique George
Hayden Hackney
Christian Nørgaard

Out:
Dominic Calvert-Lewin
Ashley Young
Abdoulaye Doucouré
Mason Holgate
João Virgínia
Asmir Begović
Neal Maupay
Dwight McNeil
Idrissa Gana Gueye
Séamus Coleman

And here we are, some the predictable fans calling for resignations despite the new owners being less than two years into this major overhaul. Absolutely clueless.

Gavin Johnson
38 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:21:33

Where have people got the source for £60m for Ndiaye and £35m for Richie? Or are they just speculating?

If those fees are true I'm going to be even more depressed than yesterday.

Dan #13 people are not being clueless to call for resignations at all. If the aforementioned fees are true, Spurs have well and truly pulled our pants down on both deals.

Also, the possibility of losing our best young player who could be worth double the reported fee after a full season in the Prem...And not only that, but also selling to a lesser club who were bouncing around the Championship and League One for years.

Oh, and just to make the hat trick of poor deals we buy an ageing, injury prone RB who rejected us last summer, after we have had all summer to secure a RB.

I think you are clueless about not reading the room and our fanbases concerns about the never to be seen or heard TFG.

Keith Harrison
39 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:21:49

Ndiaye for £60M. Richarlison for £35M is what I'm hearing.

Daylight robbery from Spurs again if true, and complete madness by the club.

Dave Whitwell
40 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:24:36

I’m done I can’t take anymore of this utter shit show of a club, supporting something you love should not be this hard.

Jeff Armstrong
41 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:25:19

Gavin 14, the usual suspects, Romano. Bobble The Athletic, they’re probably about 75% accurate most of the time.

Barry Robson
42 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:26:52

Woukd love Ndiaye to stay but he seems determined to leave so let him. In my view Grealish a better player his game management is better than anyone currently at the club and has a winners mentality again something we need more of at the club.

I think Richarlison will be a good move for Everton and him. Revitalise his career and we will benefit from that. So pleased Armstrong is staying. Definitely need a good finisher up top and obviously a right-back.

Chris James
43 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:28:24

@Keith. I think anything less than £80M for Ndiaye is a steal, especially considering the current market... and what Spurs are paying elsewhere for bang-average players like Marmoush, Savinho, Tonali. Ndiaye will be more impactful than all of those.

Richarlison at £30/35M is not crazy value for someone with his proven record, and at 29.

If the deal was £80 / £30M I think it would be about right. At £70M / £35M it's passable, if it allows us to sort the other positions and keep books relatively balanced. £60M / £35M feels more like Kenwright dealing with Levy.

Lester Yip
45 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:29:50

Rich is in the last year of his contract and he wants out. Even De Zerbi admits it publicly. With no other suitors and Spurs wants him off their wage bill, I can't see us paying $35m for him. No way.

Ndiaye is has 3 years contract with us. Spurs has lost their 2 starting games. Let the desparate team overpay.

Ian Bennett
46 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:30:08

£60M for Ndiaye is £20M too little, and Richarlison isn't worth anywhere near £35M. No one else would pay that, literally bidding against ourselves.

Whoever is negotiating that, needs to be fired. £35M squandered on the wrong valuations.

No one at Spurs want Richarlison, and we are selling a first choice with a paltry differential- no doubt on twice the Ndiaye wage.

Madness.

Steve Jones
47 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:32:11

Jeff @16

It’s also subject to who is their source and the motivation of them.

I would suspect they have more open dialogue with Spurs and the players agents etc.

It is too early for confirmation of fees finally will be agreed.

We don’t jump at these figures like that and our trading team have haggled well so far - let’s see.

Karl Jones
48 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:32:47

A massive white flag if Everton sell Ndiaye to a team that only escaped relegation on the last day of the season No Champions league or any European competition and rock bottom ATM.
From the outside, it looks as though Everton have big financial issues and we've all been lied to yet again.

Colin Glassar
49 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:35:07

I really like Richarlison and Grealish but I feel their best days might be behind them. Both also break up play by constantly picking up fouls (real and imagined) delaying any attacking intent.

I will be gutted if Ndiaye leaves as he’s a player who gets fans off their seats.

Another worry about Grealish and Richarlison is how will their inclusion affect the progress of George, Dibling, Johnson and Barry?

Kinnear needs to be sacked ASAP

Paul Hewitt
50 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:39:29

If Richarlison had started yesterday instead of Barry, we win that game.

Steve Jones
51 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:40:35

Dan @13

Thanks for doing this nice piece of analysis and sharing the reality. Overall a very good job so far. Next two days vital to keep up their good work.

If Angus and his team back up nice interview messaging then we should applaud. Big ask over next two days.

At least, we should wait till Wednesday before throwing hand grenades at them.

Steve Shave
52 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:44:38

Everyone needs to calm down a little, firstly nothing is confirmed. Secondly we don't know that TFG have financial problems, we do know that something isn't right however and there is a disconnect between Moyes and the board it seems. We can't control it so lets wait and see what happens at the end of the window, there may be some interesting twists and turns just yet.

Noise about us selling Armstrong seems to have died so that's a good thing, it seems that they need to generate income and Illi wants out so as long as the offer is good that makes business sense to me. Personally I feel he should show more respect to the club and fans that have completely revitalised him but there you go, thats the modern game. Him leaving us for Spurs would show us something about his character which makes me think he's not for us anyway.

If we sold illi for £70m and brought Richy for say £25m I would consider that reasonable business. Grealish on loan ONLY please, i'd welcome him back and get behind him, as I mentioned on here yesterday, he has commercial value too and raises our profile.

So that would cover the wide spot vacated by Illiman and would bring us in a very decent striker who is much loved here and a place where he can get his career back on track, he loves playing for us don't forget. Whether that means we get to ship out Beto in the last year of his deal that would also make sense, rumours are of Fiorentina being interested.

Lastly, the right back slot. Tete is actually an excellent player, its not that he wouldn't enhance our team, its that he is injury prone and 30 years old. It would be a depressing choice, especially (if the rumours are true) as the Romanian lad Fulham are replacing him with is better and younger. Why aren't we just in for him? Maybe the above scenario enables us to actually buy someone of quality. Lets see, COYB.

Mark Steers
53 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:45:59

Rob @11... Richarlison poor? Wow!

He scored 13 goals last season for Spurs. If he can get double figures for Everton, that will guarentee us Europe.

Everton have a very young team so we could do with a bit of experience. Oh and Ndiaye only scored 4 goals from open play... give me Richarlison everyday of the week.

Steve Brown
54 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:46:25

Dan @13, “Absolutely clueless.”

Don't be so hard on yourself.

Graham Hammond
55 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:48:42

Although I really do not want Ndiaye to leave the club, if we could get fair value for him, £88M, then I could stomach it.

Richarlison, I would now value at £18M, so £70M and Richarlison coming our way would not be the most depressing outcome.

In all honesty, I would prefer to see Illy go to Man City! Jake to stay. Harrison to stay. Grealish, not for me... I would prefer we build a younger, pacier team. Tete? No!

David Israel
56 Posted 30/08/2026 at 12:59:07

My biggest surprise is the American from Monte Carlo (sounds like a Graham Greene or John le Carré novel, doesn't it?) Is he any good? I think Richarlison has, for a while, looked like he's clearly past his prime As for Tete, my explanation is that the pressure to find a right back- any right back!-' has finally made him inevitable, even though, considering Patterson is stillblnaround, it didn't have to beso.

Scott Hamilton
57 Posted 30/08/2026 at 13:00:18

The number of ToffeeWebbers that don’t want Grealish back surprises me.

He’s not pacy but by every other metric he improves us as a team. He’s also the guy who gets us that 92nd minute free kick on the edge of the box or even a penalty.

With Seamus gone, Jack also brings the seen-it-all-done-it-all experience that’s much needed in the dressing room.

Most important of all though, he genuinely seems to love the club and want to be here, a sentiment he shares with Richarlison. There’s nothing better than watching players that care as much as we do and will do anything they can to win for us Blues.

Mike Doyle
58 Posted 30/08/2026 at 13:02:38

Barry (#17). Like you I’d prefer Ndiaye to stay, but if he won’t sign an improved contract it would be foolish of the club not to maximise his transfer fee.
Bill Shankley always took the view that if a player didn’t want to play for Liverpool they should leave and I think that remains a sensible approach.
Opinions vary on the wisdom of Ritchie returning. However he clearly wants to be here - and would be a massive upgrade on both of our current options.

Steve Brown
59 Posted 30/08/2026 at 13:02:59

TFG don’t need to sell given our commercial revenue was £265 last season.

We met PSR requirements for 2025/26 at 30th June this year and SCR is not a consideration. If necessary, we could sell a player in the January window or before 30th June 2027 to meet SCR requirements.

TFG are selling because they want the club to be self-financing and to recoup some of their investment.

Our summer net spend will be zero because it is their choice.

Mark Steers
60 Posted 30/08/2026 at 13:05:34

Can anyone tell me why they think Ndiaye is worth £80M because I can't work it out... you see, stats tell the truth. Illie no doubt is entertaining at times but also frustrating: he has only scored 10 goals from open play in 67 games.

Also, Everton paid £15M for him -- do you think he has proved he's 5 times the player now? I doubt that very much.

Also, his stats in the box, shooting and assists and dribling, don't read great... but if we can get good money, take it.

If we sign Richarlison, he will probably cost about £20M. I think we will get the better deal. All about opinions... but stats don't lie.

Mike Allison
61 Posted 30/08/2026 at 13:10:40

Selling Ndiaye for a huge amount of money is the model we've all been asking for. Brentford, Bournemouth and Brighton constantly sell players at high fees. We shouldn't need to do it as often as them, we're a bigger club and should be generating more revenue.

However, if he's the one this season, an experienced player like Grealish comes in and George and Dibling play a lot and develop then that's good business.

What we can't ever do is sell our most promising young players. Not only is this harmful on the pitch, but it completely destroys the morale of the entire fan base. The recent entertaining of the Armstrong bid shows that somebody doesn't understand the fundamental basics of a club like Everton. Apparently the manager didn't want to sell him and neither did the owners, so who did? Whoever it was should be gone by Wednesday morning.

Our recruitment team have made some very astute signings in recent years, but Moyes hasn't used them well. We now don't seem to know what we want or what the plan is. I don't even know who's making decisions, but someone has kept Moyes in post, whilst pursuing a transfer policy that Moyes is known to hate working under and doesn't seem capable of doing so.

Players in their early to mid-20s with talent that Moyes won't use properly: Patterson, Aznou, O'Brien, Röhl, Alcaraz, Dibling. Yet Tarkowski is untouchable, Keane still plays and we've signed Norgaard. And someone at the club needed the fans to tell them not to sell Armstrong.

My faith in those running the club is currently close to zero. If Wednesday morning comes and the right-back is Kenny Tete, then it will be at absolute zero.

Eric Myles
62 Posted 30/08/2026 at 13:21:13

If Ndiaye really wants to leave (not convinced of that myself) then surely his interest is in City or Arsenal, not Spurs.

So maybe this is the Club saying 'You want out? Well Spurs is the only door open to you, don't let it hit you on the arse'

If he stays we don't need Grealish, if he goes we get Richy and Grealish. A win-win either way?

Sean Kearns
63 Posted 30/08/2026 at 13:21:20

The Ndiaye one doesn't hurt too much as I think Rohl is class and can easily fill that right-wing spot!…

Also as stated above, if we had Richarlison up front yesterday, we would have won that game!

Gavin Johnson
64 Posted 30/08/2026 at 13:22:32

If Spurs are only paying £60m on Ndiaye, they have smelt blood in the water and sensed our desperation to make a sale.

£35m for Richie is ridiculous but at least it would have been off-set if Spurs were paying the high valuation of £80m on Ndiaye. At the current reports we're paying the high valuation and they're paying at the low end.

David Hallwood
65 Posted 30/08/2026 at 13:23:03

Dan #13. Not clueless at all, we've been sold a pup by Trump like grifters. We've all been wondering why we can't get a right back when there's a whole world to choose from.

Well now we know, TFG aren't releasing funds for a right back unless players are sold, so we're back to the Boys Pen Billy business model of selling all your assets and pick up players from the bargain basement, which has served us so well.

The Harrison Armstrong sale exposes these grifters as asset strippers, because as it stands, the squad with 2 days to go has 2 full backs, that is assuming Aznou goes on loan, one of the backs being Patterson. And a centre-forward one still learning and the other a hopeless case.

Does Ndiaye want to go to Spurs or has he got any opinion? I've been around since we sold Ball to Arsenal, Kendall to Birmingham City and Rooney to Man Utd and the fact is, if a club wants to sell you, you're gone. Shameless tank grifters, get them gone.

Craig Walker
66 Posted 30/08/2026 at 13:26:06

Richarlison wouldn’t miss all the chances that Barry blew yesterday.

I can understand Ndiaye wanting to progress but Spurs? Seriously? He’ll be like Pienaar and Richarlison.

I liked Ndiaye but his greediness cost us in games last season when not squaring the ball to a better-placed teammate or hitting daisy cutters straight at the keeper. It’s not like when Lineker, Duncan or Rooney left, for me.

Christy Ring
67 Posted 30/08/2026 at 13:32:28

We don't know what Spurs are paying for Ndiaye, if it's less than £80m, TFG & Kinnear are a total shambles, he's a way better player than Gakpo.

Richarlison is in his last year, and has had hamstring problems, Spurs are happy to get rid, and his value should be less than £20M. No ambition whatsoever bringing back Richarlison and Grealish and selling Ndiaye.

And after yesterday's antics with Armstrong, are you still as confident of the owners, Michael Gaynes?

Christy Ring
68 Posted 30/08/2026 at 13:38:19

Sean #57,

I don't know how you think Rohl can fill Ndiaye's role on the wing, he's not a winger.

John Chambers
69 Posted 30/08/2026 at 13:42:17

Richarlison and £40M for Ndiaye would be OK by me. Sell Beto fpr €15M, Patterson for £10M buy Norton-Cuffy for €20M and still have over £40M in hand for a centre forward/winger.

Personally, I wouldn't bring Grealish back as I feel our approach so far this season had been to get the ball forward more quickly whilst Grealish likes the ball to feet and holds it up, but he is good at bringing runners such as Dewsbury-Hall into the game.

Rocco Bugaj
70 Posted 30/08/2026 at 13:52:02

According to The Athletic, we're only getting €60 million for Ndiaye. In return, we're supposed to pay €35 million for Richarlison.

Are we the Premier League's bargain bin? What the hell kind of businessmen do we have?

Frank Fearns
71 Posted 30/08/2026 at 13:57:28

A no for me for Richarlison unless we need to keep our physios busy dealing with his hamstrings!

Also I’ve seen him a few times in the last couple of years and he spends a lot of times on his arse feigning injury. One match I went to the ref waived play on every time he went down.

I think he’ll be gone but with a choice I’d never sell Illey.

Bill Gall
72 Posted 30/08/2026 at 13:59:18

Before commenting about this player leaving and these players coming in, we should take notice of what this article is supposed to be about and that is rumors. Everton are no different from any other club and tend to keep transfer targets in or out between themselves and opposing managers. Being an older generation supporter nothing surprises me in the transfer window with A.Ball being sold to Arsenal and Bobby Collins to Leeds as examples in my time. Just lets see what happens at the end of this window that should tell the ambitions that this new ownership group have for Everton.

Terry Downes
73 Posted 30/08/2026 at 14:01:34

£60 mill reported are we trying to prove we’re stupid and 35 for Richy who the fk is negotiating these deals Starmer ?

Sean O\\\'Hanlon
74 Posted 30/08/2026 at 14:02:32

The priority IMO is a decent striker. We cannot continue with Beto and Barry any longer. They will lose us games regularly. They're an absolute liability, and just cannot play basic football.
I would have Richarlison at the right price, or another striker who's good enough. Ndiaye doesn't want to stay at Everton - offered 3 contacts, but he wants CL football, and go to Spurs????? Doesn't he read the Football Pink?

Mick O\\\'Malley
75 Posted 30/08/2026 at 14:04:35

Mark Steers agree about Ndaiye, yes he is exciting running with the ball but let's be honest 10 goals in 67 games is piss poor, his shooting is powderpuff and his.crosses are very hit and miss, id snap Spurs arm off at the elbow for anything north of 50 million
If.we are Intent on bringing back the 12 goal a season Richarlison then nothing more.than 15 million for a player in the last season of his contract who misses a lot.of games through injury
Id love Grealish back but im.a bit worried about how that injury has affected him but he knows how to manage a game, wins us plenty of free kicks, rarely gives the ball away, as for Tete words fail me, all summer searching for a right back and the best we can come up with is an other Injury prone player who can't get in the Fulham team, its soul destroying

Jimmy Carr
76 Posted 30/08/2026 at 14:12:17

Bill (68) wise words. No point in saying anything else until the dust settles on Tuesday.

John Collins
77 Posted 30/08/2026 at 14:15:38

One shyster goes, thank fuck, and another one fills his seat.

Sean Kearns
78 Posted 30/08/2026 at 14:19:36

Christy #64: Before playing at RB, Rohl played on the wing for us!… he is an attacking midfielder and can run all day, he also has good link up play… he’s literally played right wing for us and looked good. What do you think is his position?

Tony Hughes
79 Posted 30/08/2026 at 14:21:38

Again though, all our business is centred around the Premier League. Do none of our crack recruitment team have passports?

Sean Kearns
80 Posted 30/08/2026 at 14:26:19

Tony it could be because we have the smallest squad in the league and we don’t have time/room for players to bed in and get used to the league. New players from abroad take time to adapt (I.e Barry) and we don’t have that luxury. We need ready made players who can play right now. I agree with buying players from the PL

Josh Horne
81 Posted 30/08/2026 at 14:31:12

£35M for Richarlison is an absolute joke if that's true. Injury prone, last year of his contract. Our recruitment team are clowns.

"If Richarlison plays yesterday we win that game" is priceless. If he is so much of a match winner how come Spurs would have been relegated last year were it not for playing us in their last match?

Christy Ring
82 Posted 30/08/2026 at 14:31:23

Sean#72 He's probably played everywhere for us, but for me he's a 6/8 midfielder, he's not a natural winger like Ndiaye and George.

Tony Hughes
83 Posted 30/08/2026 at 14:37:54

Possibly Sean, but it severely restricts the search for talent, shopping only the local cornershop.

Sean Kearns
84 Posted 30/08/2026 at 14:42:33

It’s hardly the local corner shop, it’s the best league in the world. Every team is strong and has quality

Rocco Bugaj
85 Posted 30/08/2026 at 14:45:21

Sean#72 Röhl is and was neither a defender nor a winger. At Ingolstadt and Freiburg, he always played in midfield. Perhaps he could be trained for the role, but that will take time.

Ashley Roberts
86 Posted 30/08/2026 at 14:47:56

Can Kinnear and TFG have sex and travel? These guys have no love for the club like we do.

Need to get some investors who understand the club and what it means to the supporters.

Grant Rorrison
87 Posted 30/08/2026 at 14:50:05

Do Spurs ever pull our pants back up after the previous time?

Jonathan Oppenheimer
88 Posted 30/08/2026 at 14:50:10

The rumour mill in modern football is utterly absurd, but as others have pointed out, the Armstrong deal being leaked is probably the thing that saved the club from making a catastrophically bad decision. The fans saving us from disaster could prove to be a turning point for the club.

We are all universally against the Tete signing, not because it might not work out for a couple of seasons if he stays healthy, but because it represents a discombobulated recruitment team and club that appears to lack ambition.

The Grealish and Richarlison moves, if they happen, are tough to make sense of. We all know their qualities, which includes a love of the club and the leadership that hopefully comes with age (despite Richy always lying on the pitch and Jack lying on the pub floor). It’s easy to say no to both, but they could also be just what we need this season.

As for the numbers being thrown about for Ndiaye and Richarlison, they seem both low for Ili and high for Richy, but hard not to wonder whether it’s the only way the
Ndiaye deal gets done. I have no idea how these back room deals get done, but it’s not a far reach. And if it’s the only way we offload Ndiaye and bring in reinforcements, then I’d see it as Grealish and Richarlison for Ndiaye, and if that’s the best we can do, I can live with it if it gets us to Europe.

Tony Hughes
89 Posted 30/08/2026 at 14:54:13

Yes its the best league in the world, and from that we've managed to pull Norgaard, Johnson and Tete. Two of which are 31 and 32 years old
I just think they could have been more expansive in thier searches, younger players at better prices.

Sean Kearns
90 Posted 30/08/2026 at 14:59:50

If Brighton were selling N’Diaye they would get £100 million for him

John Collins
91 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:00:33

Armstrong represents an Everton tradition
King described a potential sale as an “act of vandalism” and a “removal of hope”.

Without the fan reaction he would be a Forest player now

Ajay Gopal
92 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:02:20

If we get in Richarlison, Grealish, Balogun and Tete, I would grudgingly accept selling Ndiaye if we also move on Beto, Iroegbunam, Patterson, Alcaraz.

The squad would look like this:

Centre Forwards: (3) Richarlison, Barry, Balogun
Attacking MF: (5) Grealish, Dewsbury-Hall, Johnson, George, Dibling
Midfield: (5) Norgaard, Garner, Rohl, Hackney, Armstrong
Centre Backs: (4) Branthwaite, O’Brien, Tarkowski, Keane
Full Backs: (2) Mykolenko, Tete
GK: (3) Pickford, Travers, Tom (something)

I am sure that we will sign another full-back, possibly on loan to cover for Mykolenko.

John Charles
93 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:06:12

Selling Ndiaye makes perfect sense- thinks he is far better than he actually is. Getting Richy less so. Surely can’t be more than £20 million with only a year left on contract. But we have again left it until the 11th hour and no matter what we need another CF. Jack I would take all week over Ndiaye.

Ian Wilkins
94 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:06:39

The Illy valuation sounds low, consider the inflated fees that have been paid recently for bang average players. Savinho better than Ndiaye for example?
Richarlison, age, injury, last year of contract, asked to leave.. no way £35m.
I’d be surprised if the Richarlison deal happens. Something doesn’t sound right..

Jonathan Oppenheimer
95 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:07:42

Ajay 92 agree with that assessment, but I don’t see how we manage to bring in Balogun and Richarlison. Balogun alone in today’s market has to be worth at least £40 million.

Chris James
96 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:14:15

@Ajay, I don't sense we'll get Richarlison AND Balogun, I think it's either/or. UNLESS Beto is also on the move.

Iroegbunam deal could be resuscitated, now it's clear he IS fit, so he could def go, but I'll be surprised if Alcaraz goes and I don't think any credible offers have come in for Patterson.

Centre Forwards: (3) Richarlison, Barry, Beto
Attacking MF: (6) Grealish, Dewsbury-Hall, Johnson, George, Dibling, Alcaraz
Midfield: (5) Norgaard, Garner, Rohl, Hackney, Armstrong [Iroegbunam]
Centre Backs: (4) Branthwaite, O’Brien, Tarkowski, Keane
Full Backs: (3) Mykolenko, Tete, Patterson
GK: (3) Pickford, Travers, Tom King

Losing NDiaye is still definiitely a hit, but that's not a bad 24/25 man squad, and feels stronger than last season overhaul, although I still think another full back option could be handy!

The challenge will be keeping everyone happy in midfield especially. The balance has looked great so far, but obviously Armstrong needs game time and Norgaard too at some point, but starting ahead of Garner and Hackney? Likewise, where do Dibling, Johnson and Rohl fit in?

My predicted starting XI IF the deals comes off as expected, and every one is ft...

Pickford
Mykolenko / Branthwaite / Tarkowski / Tete
Garner, Hackney
Grealish, KDH, George
Richarlison

Most likely used subs: Barry, Armstong, Rohl, Johnson, Alcaraz, Beto, Dibling, O'Brien

Tom Bowers
97 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:15:42

Rumors, rumors and more rumors.

All to be expected but Richarlison I hope not.

He is past his best and these days just sulks a lot. Not worth a penny.

He couldn't get a regular spot on a piss poor Spurs team last season so why would he be any different back at Everton.

Sure if he plays enough he will score the odd goal but so will Beto.

Tom Bowers
98 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:15:42

Rumors, rumors and more rumors.

All to be expected but Richarlison I hope not.

He is past his best and these days just sulks a lot. Not worth a penny.

He couldn't get a regular spot on a piss poor Spurs team last season so why would he be any different back at Everton.

Sure if he plays enough he will score the odd goal but so will Beto.

Alan J Thompson
99 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:25:44

Having read in other places that there was a possibility of Richarlison returning I thought that he and Ndiaye would work well together, sadly not to be.

I don't suppose that the fee being touted for Richarlison is what is still owed on his transfer to Spurs.

Rocco Bugaj
100 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:26:25

Tom
Playing in a poor team, Richarlison scored twice as many goals per 90 minutes as Barry or Beto.

Tony Abrahams
101 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:27:48

Kenwright removed all hope John, then Usmanov’s money, built us a brand new stadium, which gave us hope again.

These Friedkin’s are either consciously or subconsciously trying to remove our soul.

Ian Wilkins
102 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:30:50

Beto to Fiorentina £17.5m

Rocco Bugaj
103 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:33:22

Gabriel Jesus from Arsenal to Barcelona. "According to transfer journalist Romano, the club is paying Arsenal a base fee of around ten million euros plus performance-related bonuses."
And we will get somebody for more Millions.

Conor McCourt
104 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:39:57

3 incoming injury prone 30 year olds sounds like a Moyes wet dream.

Scott Hamilton
105 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:41:04

Apparently Pedigree Chum have come in with a last minute offer for Beto.

Ian Bennett
106 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:41:59

Get to fuck conor. This is on the owners not putting the cash on the table for Doue etc.

Christy Ring
107 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:44:23

I still can't understand the Richi deal, he's now injury prone, in the last year of his contract, wants out at Spurs, and his fee is £35m? Is Kinnear negotiating this deal, total amateur.

Ian Bennett
108 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:45:17

Christy there is another year option on Richie, same as Iroegbunam.

Rocco Bugaj
109 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:46:40

I’m starting to think we’re in for a surprise this transfer window. Maybe the owners will sell off all the players soon and relaunch the club as an American football team. Then Idrissa could be brought back into the fold, too.

Sean Kearns
110 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:48:02

People saying they don’t want Richy is insane… we all seen Barry blow 2-3 big chances yesterday to win us the game. He scored a hat-trick against a bloody championship team and people think he’s alright lol… him and Beto need fucking RIGHT OFF!!! We NEED Richarlison and another striker on top of him. Especially if we are trying to win a cup… imagine getting to an FA cup semi-final at Wembley with Barry up fooking front! Lord have mercy… also he’s an absolute shithouse PUFF. Be gone you fucking bum!… I wouldn’t even want him coming off the bench. How can one be an impact sub when he fails to make any impact whatsoever. He needs to be sold asap. Beto is better off the bench. Beto would have scored one of Barry’s chances yesterday… People saying no to Delap and no to Richy. Who do we think we are going to sign?… People saying no to Delap because he didn’t have an impact at Chelskii seem to forget how we came about acquiring Dewsbury-Hall. What’s the difference?

Rocco Bugaj
111 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:51:22

If Beto leaves, my wife will be very sad. He gave us a conciliatory send-off at Goodison Park with his equalizer against Fulham.

Nigel Scowen
112 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:53:45

Sean@110

I don’t think many doubt his ability Sean, just his injury record.

Bobby Mallon
113 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:54:41

Its a no for me with richy also 70 million or fuck off spuds we don't need to sell him hes contracted till 2029

Dale Self
114 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:54:47

And right there is the crux of the matter, Rocco. It would seem, perpaps ahead of it but maybe not, that TFG were either expecting a 'thick market' or planning to strip from the start. Kinnear's remarks of 70% of league business is done late is what I am going on there.

At first, I thought this would be good to reform our transfer reputation which resembles Richard Lewis the closer it gets to deadline. When we were hearing 70 plus for Ndiaye, that continued to work for me.

Now, it appears that activity is building for the last wave and two damaging events have developed. Armstrong for 40 and Ndiaye for 60. These are not numbers that suggest any reputational progress has been made. Crucially, it suggests Everton cannot get situated to close a deal drectly unless it is at the low end. We can't get in the conversation of buying Jesus, we can only bring Richy back, at a premium no less.

Things could happen which make this premature. However,TFG have already lost sone rep by not countering some of these insulting narratives. Unless, of course they are accurate. I suppose one cannot rule that out with an owner that could not be here to welcome the PM to our house.

I will wait to unload later.

Raymond Fox
115 Posted 30/08/2026 at 15:54:59

God knows what squad we will end up with, whatever we do I think it's going to be a competitive one. I like the look of how it's shaping up, we have a good mix of youth and experience.

The situation with Patterson has always puzzled me, he might not be a wonderfully good player but is he that bad. Maybe he is a headcase, indisciplined, poor trainer or whatever because as a player he has done OK the few times I have watched him but Moyes and those before don't want to pick him.

It's 4 years since Richarlison left us so it could be a mistake to have him back, I think the juries out on that one, but you never know he might be revitalised coming back to us.

Christy Ring
117 Posted 30/08/2026 at 16:01:33

A fit Richi would be a great addition, but his injury record since he went to Spurs, especially his hamstrings is a big worry.

Mike Price
118 Posted 30/08/2026 at 16:02:42

Wouldn’t mind Richarlison back because he’s way better than what we have, but 35m is a joke. He’s got a year left on his contract, no one else wants him, it should be 20m at the most and at least 80 for N’Diaye.
If we can unload Beto for an extra forward, and bring in Grealish, that would be a decent window.
The fullback situation is laughable though, everyone bangs on about right back but left back, is by far, our biggest problem

Nigel Scowen
119 Posted 30/08/2026 at 16:05:00

Rocco@111

😂🤣 Same with my girlfriend Rocco.

‘Don’t be so horrible, he’s a nice man who always tries his best’

Conor McCourt
120 Posted 30/08/2026 at 16:06:48

Very good Ian I noted your blame of the owners for our capitulation last season also from challenging for Champions League as you put it. Your preciousness over your hero knows no bounds.

History tells you what age profile these owners prefer.
I'm sure they would have happily sanctioned Hector Fort over Tete if money was the issue or Balogun over Ritchy if the 35 million is accurate.

Rocco Bugaj
121 Posted 30/08/2026 at 16:11:25

Hello Dale, in my opinion, it is understandable that prices become increasingly absurd towards the end of the transfer window. However, the situation for us seems to be that our own players keep getting cheaper while the players we are interested in keep getting more expensive. A forward-looking transfer policy could prevent this.

Rocco Bugaj
122 Posted 30/08/2026 at 16:15:09

Nigel119

😂😂😂

Kieran Kinsella
123 Posted 30/08/2026 at 16:17:49

We finally get rid of past it injured aged Coleman and bring in an injured 32 midfielder while chasing two injury prone 30 somethings and a 30 something RB who can’t get at a game at Fulham and snubbed us on a free last summer. All of them on significant wages with no sell on value meaning in about 18 months or two years from now we will need to replace all of them so back so square one with worthless dead wood. Meanwhile their presence with stunt the growth of Armstrong and Barry who seem to be finding form. Great planning Everton.

Ian Horan
124 Posted 30/08/2026 at 16:19:07

Richies goals kept spurs up last year, I didnt realise we have so many financial experts on TW. Sell on fees and all that crap is of no concern to me, I want a winning team and entertainment. Beto and Barry got 17 goals between them last season Richie got 11 in half as many games. illy actually grew up around London when his family moved their from Marseillie. Illy started out at a youtube team called Rising Ballers and has moved every couple of years or so, finally Illy isn't a great goal scorer by volume of goals but he is a score of great memorable goals.

comparisons of Illy and Gapko are wide of the mark like it or not Gapko outscored illy and without penalties

Ray Jacques
125 Posted 30/08/2026 at 16:20:24

Richarlison was Spurs' top scorer last season. He would have scored at least one of the three chances Barry missed on Saturday.

Not unhappy if he returned, plus Grealish, but he should be less than £35M.

Ndiaye won't sign a new deal, so he wants out. Flog him to Spurs and watch him suffer in that jumble of random players.

Right back remains the big concern, no to Tete.

Mike Morgan
126 Posted 30/08/2026 at 16:26:49

I see that Jesus is leaving Arsenal for £8M to Barcelona. He's 29 -- same age as Richarlison. How can we pay £35M for Richy?

I loved him first time round. I can see how having a player that can play left or centre-forward gives us a plus over Ndiaye. I would put him ahead of Barry and Beto.

Spurs should be desperate to sell him. Last year of contract, doesn't want to be there. But I thought our owners were supposed to be super negotiators???

How has Ndiaye 3 years on contract, in his prime dropped from £80M to £60M? I'm sad to see him go. But when you look at what had happened to Newcastle Utd and Aston Villa, it would have been amazing to have not sold someone.

How are Spurs able to spend so much money under the financial rules!!!!!

Dale Self
127 Posted 30/08/2026 at 16:36:01

I'm still trying to figure out if the Armstrong talk damaged the offer talk for Ndiaye. We were working on a 20mil deal for Beto. Why not say we are not recognizing that lowball offer for Ndiaye?

Joe McMahon
128 Posted 30/08/2026 at 16:47:46

If it really is Ndiaye for £60M and Richie for £35M, yet again we have been strung up like a couple of Kippers.

Ndiaye is a 80 mill player, and the 2026 version of Richie is nowhere near 35 million. Why the hell are Everton still obsessed with old boys coming back, and why to still continue to buy injury prone players.

Quality as Iliman Ndiaye is a rarity at Everton, and here we are again, pathetic!

Bill Gall
129 Posted 30/08/2026 at 16:55:40

If you sold a player to another team you sell him because the club needed the money or his form was not good enough, and now we are talking about bringing him back, who's name is not first on Spurs team sheet, years older and could not make the Brazil national team.
Surely if our scouts are any use they can recommend a younger prospect that can score goals to replace our present non scorers, even if it means selling at least 1 of them. Its no use having a strong defense and having to rely on them to score. Good approach play is needed but someone to finish it off is essential.

Ged Simpson
130 Posted 30/08/2026 at 16:58:43

I will be delighted when the transfer window ends and we can all go back to being footy fans rather than amateur brokers and accountants who support "deals" (trumpism) between rich non-fan owners rather than our club.

Think we will discuss transfer staff performance and their owners more than our players all season soon. And then bet on the 'deals'.

Jack Convery
131 Posted 30/08/2026 at 17:03:51

Maybe we're waiting to see who gets released after 1st September so we can scour that market for a bargain. We defo need another LB and RB ( even if Tete comes ), a Left footed CB and of course a CF ( or two ), if Beto goes.

I hope we can get offers for Keane - we need an upgrade, Patterson - he's not rated, TIm - Allows space for Armstrong and Hackney to flourish, Charlie - appears not to be fancied, and Beto - in final year of his contract. If Tete is rated at £9m, then Keane £10m, Patterson, £10m, Tim, £18m, Charlie, £10m, Beto £18m. Optimistic am I.

Stu Darlington
132 Posted 30/08/2026 at 17:05:34

I thought Ndiaye wouldn't sign a new contract with us because he wanted to play Champions League football?

Good luck with that at Spurs!

Christy Ring
133 Posted 30/08/2026 at 17:10:02

Speaking of strikers, don't think Abraham is gone on loan yet, would he not be an option to buy?

Chris James
134 Posted 30/08/2026 at 17:10:04

Saw some remarks about Jesus above.

Now I don't want to blaspheme, but I'm not sure Jesus would save us... he's been more injury prone than most and has hardly set the league alight with only nine league games started in the last two seasons. Even playing at the highest level in dominant teams at City and Arsenal, his recent record is worse than Richarlison's, see below.
Crucially the player also has to want to come to the club, and I'm not convinced we're beating out Barcelona there.

As for Richarlison, he has hit double digits for goals 5 times in the last 8 seasons, and that includes hardly playing in 24/25. He also crucially delivers assists, so when he's playing regularly his performance delivers goals one way or another, which is what we've been lacking from the forwards recently, with Barry delivering 8 GI last year, and Beto 10, 8 and 3 over the last few years.

Richy's goal involvement record [PL only] from starts reads like:
25/26: 20 starts, 15 GI [11 Goals, 4 Assists]
24/25: 4 starts, 5 GI [4G, 1A]
23/24: 18 starts, 15 GI [11G, 4A]
22/23: 12 starts, 5 GI [1G, 4A]
21/22: 28 starts, 16 GI [10G, 6A]
20/21: 33 starts, 13 GI [7G, 6A]
19/20: 36 starts, 18 GI [13G, 5A]
18/19: 32 starts, 16 GI [13G, 3A]
17/18: 32 starts, 13 GI [5G, 8A]

Granted this isn't prime Haaland, nor is he Thiago, Joao Pedro, Watkins, even Isaak, when he was good, but it's as good/better than most teams have, and anything we've had since DCL left.

Christy Ring
135 Posted 30/08/2026 at 17:15:16

Chris #134 Agree with you about Jesus, and for me he's not an out and out no.9, and the team he had at City and he wasn't a regular goalscorer.

Anthony Dove
136 Posted 30/08/2026 at 17:16:49

Some basic stuff here. Don’t deal with Spurs. Don’t buy back
former players who will be 30 next birthday. Don’t buy Fulham
rejects. Many thanks for last season but don’t get Involved
again with Grealish who will be even older and slower but probably
still cost a fortune in wages
Maybe sell Ndiaye at a proper price and bring in players not
nearing retirement. By the way Kinnear there are actually
people who play football outside the UK.–

Andrew Ellams
137 Posted 30/08/2026 at 17:22:08

Selling Beto is a huge risk with Richarlison's injury record. There's a good chance we could have spells this season with Barry as our only available striker.

Ian Wilkins
138 Posted 30/08/2026 at 17:25:23

It appears we have to sell.
We’ve been hawking Ndiaye round at £70-80m, should be minimum in this inflated market.
City, United, Arsenal, haven’t followed through on their interest. Others know we are desperate to offload somebody.
Spurs therefore offer £60m, we’ve backtracked on Harrison, so it has to be Ndiaye at £60m, pants down arse smacked.

Oh and while we’re at it you’re desperate for a forward and have pestered us about Richarlison who wants to come back to you, so that’ll be £35m ( despite the fact he’s in last year of contract and asked to leave).
We can’t do this deal at this price, simply can’t.
Don’t be had off again. It’s amateur.

Dale Self
139 Posted 30/08/2026 at 17:29:32

Chris 134, with all due respect, you are mouse hunting with an elephant rifle there. Rocco was mentioning the 10m fee while I was using that to remark that it is two-tier business late in the window and Everton is once again lower-tier with an owner two steps behind. Rocco laid it out well on the price trends for us and them.

I don't think either of us are wanting a Jesus come to me moment, yet we are probably resigned to a return of Richy.

Frank Fearns
140 Posted 30/08/2026 at 17:41:18

Steady Roco @ 121 “ a forward looking transfer policy” are you on the right page? - this is Everton!

Phil Wood
141 Posted 30/08/2026 at 17:44:22

Can we hire some negotiators please.
Our current ones would appear to be useless
Agreeing £35 m for one of the Premierships hot prospects.
£60 m for Ndiaye. £20m short
Paying £35 for a player Spurs fans want out.£10 £15 m too much.
Stupidity

Keith Gleave
142 Posted 30/08/2026 at 17:56:04

Simply no to all of these. Might be worth telling ndiaye that nearly all those that have gone to spurs have warmed the bench.
These owners need to show support or the Bournemouth chants will be nothing to what will come

Mihir Ambardekar
143 Posted 30/08/2026 at 17:56:29

Getting Richy and Grealish is not bad for Illiman. We offered him lucrative contracts but he rejected. We are not attractive proposition for many players so far. Delap and Munoz went for insane prices. We don't want to pay stupid prices. Many players possibly didn’t want to sign for us. We are unable to offload players on our pay roll. That makes our finances challenging considering the SCR. I feel we havent handled the RB situation well and for Armstrong thankfully the deal is off.

Hope we sell Beto, Alcaraz, Iroegbunam, Patterson, etc. in coming days and sign Balogun

Michael Kenrick
144 Posted 30/08/2026 at 17:57:09

Anthony @135...

Grealish will be even older and slower but probably
still cost a fortune in wages.

And the rest... Everton to pick up 90% -- yes, Ninety Percent of his Manchester City wages!

That's well over £1M a month -- to watch him stall the game wide left and wait for the defenders to pile in on him? No thanks.

George Freeman
145 Posted 30/08/2026 at 17:59:22

Phil, totally agree with your comments but everything is more expensive in London.

Ashley Roberts
146 Posted 30/08/2026 at 17:59:55

If these numbers are to be believed and I do not doubt it, I very much think this makes Everton a bloody laughing stock. Ndiaye valued a 60M with Richi with one year left on his contract 35M and injury prone. Somebody is taking the piss especially with Gakpo going for
85M and Jesus 9M. I think we need to get rid of Kinnear pronto and get somebody who has some footballing knowledge cos this guy does not know his arse from his elbow!!

Tony Abrahams
147 Posted 30/08/2026 at 18:08:13

Why have we had to sell? The more I think about it the more frustrated and deflated I feel. Maybe someone from the club, will come out and explain why we are having to sell N’Diaye, not that I’d believe them after listening to the absolute pony Angus Kinnear, speaks.

My subconscious must have been working overtime this summer, because I have never felt more disillusioned with Everton, and my feelings about our current owners are not much different from the way I always felt about Bill Kenwright.

Listening to people defending them has been very hard to comprehend, and even though I have felt really frustrated, I didn’t expect them to be as brazenly poor, has they have shown themselves to be in the last few days.

James Marshall
148 Posted 30/08/2026 at 18:20:23

We paid £16.9m for Ndiaye and we're selling him for £60m 3 years later.

Players come and go, it's business.

Grealish will be good for us.

I don't like taking Richarlison back but it isn't the end of the world and he's better than Beto and Barry.

Tete isn't great but at least he's a right back.

Aaaand breath. The world keeps turning, and you'll all continue to support Everton.

Phil Wood
149 Posted 30/08/2026 at 18:20:40

Like you Tony I feel like I can no longer trust their plans for our club or their business acumen.

Christy Ring
150 Posted 30/08/2026 at 18:23:48

It's reported that we're paying £25m for Richi +£10m in clauses should they be met, looks a little better.

Josh Horne
151 Posted 30/08/2026 at 18:26:08

Everton showed real weakness yesterday by not publically and immediately dismissing a derisory offer from Forest for Armstrong.

Spurs, Fulham, City have all smelt blood; its a feeding frenzy now.

Heads must roll.

Phil Wood
152 Posted 30/08/2026 at 18:27:27

Christy I hope the clause is 50 goals a season.

John Atkinson
153 Posted 30/08/2026 at 18:33:30

Why can't we sign Ivan Toney on a 2 year deal. He will defo get us goals

Dan Brierley
154 Posted 30/08/2026 at 18:39:10

Ndiaye is a tricky one. He's already stated he wants to play in the CL, refused two new contract offers, with some news outlets saying he insisted on a CL team clause for £40m. He has three years left on his contract, where he is now stuck on 45K a week. He's now 26, so in his prime for the next two years so now is the right time to sell him for the biggest profit.

I don't like when players refuse contracts, so if he wants to go £60m looks like a good deal for me. I'm very happy with the signings of Rohl, KDH, Hackney and Norgaard, less so with Dibling and Barry for now but they might come good. So overall I trust them to reinvest the £60m to improve the squad, hopefully once Moyes is gone.

Chris Davies
155 Posted 30/08/2026 at 18:44:12

Jack and Richi in for Illy sounds good to me.
Actual substance vs blind alleys and rare end product.
If Richalison stays fit, plays, and takes Illy’s penalty job, his figures are triple, I reckon

Anthony Dove
156 Posted 30/08/2026 at 18:56:31

Michael @ 144. Welcome Jack and others to the players
just before retirement home.

George Cumiskey
157 Posted 30/08/2026 at 19:03:51

Dan @154 happy about the Norgaard signing? How can you say that when we don't even know when he'll be be able to play. 🤔

Gavin Johnson
158 Posted 30/08/2026 at 19:16:06

We must also be bringing in a left back if Aznou is going out on loan. We've been linked to one from Nice who I know anything about, but I'd like a loan with a buy option for Myles Lewis Skelly from Arsenal.

We need some younger signings after Grealish, Richie, Norgaard and the walking sicknote, Kenny Tete, who I think is our most underwhelming signing in my entire 40 years watching Everton. I think I was even more excited when Howard signed the RB, Paul Holmes who couldn't even get in the first XI at a lower league Birmingham City.

Terry Downes
159 Posted 30/08/2026 at 19:24:34

How come we’re letting illi go for a reported £60mill is our club stupid ?
Spurs have paid £70mill for Savio,surely illi is a better player and worth more than Savio ?

Sean Kearns
160 Posted 30/08/2026 at 19:42:58

Harrisson would have been a £40 million profit. N’Diaye is a £40 million profit, when you consider we paid around 20 million for him… and we recently got ordered to pay burnley around £40 million for the PSR lawsuit… the owners just want to make a quick 40 million to pay the Burnley saga. It’s clear as day to see.

Mike Morgan
161 Posted 30/08/2026 at 19:52:59

I wonder if we had sold Armstrong we would have kept Ndiaye ? Big gamble on potential but I think the right one. Armstrong is just class. I hope he gets enough games to justify the decision.

Tony Hughes
162 Posted 30/08/2026 at 20:02:10

Mike if they could have got away with it they would have sold Armstrong as well

Mark Taylor
163 Posted 30/08/2026 at 20:15:51

It's true we have to see what happens by Wednesday morning, but I have a very strong sense, along with a few others on here, that this window will be net zero spend and Ndiaye was always lined up to go to make this happen. Whatever the numbers are with Spurs, it will all be calculated to make that happen.

This is a far cry from Kinnear telling us we're in the top third in the revenue league for EPL clubs, having been bottom third before TFG, and implying there is 70% of our business to do, which I assumed he meant buys. I didn't expect to blow another £100m plus net, but I did expect around £60-70m and even then, I'd forgotten we had to use more than half of that for Rohl and George.

I guess if the above comes true, we'll know our place, casting around for the dregs from Fulham and Spurs and very nearly selling our best young player in ages to Forest of all people, unless the fans intervened. Know your place...

Nicolas Piñon
164 Posted 30/08/2026 at 20:32:32

Finally a Real 9 if richi is back
Him and Grealish for ndiaye a no brainer

Paul Hewitt
165 Posted 30/08/2026 at 20:49:31

Who will score more goals this season. Richy or ndiaye?. I know who I think.

Sean Kearns
166 Posted 30/08/2026 at 20:52:08

Ndiaye might not take penalties at Spurs.

How many goals would he have for us without penalties?…

#NoEndProduct

Ian Horan
171 Posted 30/08/2026 at 20:52:44

We should have insisted Illy put in a transfer request so no bonus or % of the fee.

Ged Simpson
172 Posted 30/08/2026 at 20:57:15

Think you made your point Ian.. TW at new best!

Darren Hind
173 Posted 30/08/2026 at 20:57:21

The idea that the fans have made TFG think again is laughable. They don't give a fuck what fans think and if an offer in keeping with today's price comes in, Armstrong will be history.

David Ornstein insisted Armstrong wouldn't be considered for yesterday's game. He was 100% wrong. That would strongly suggest the decision to keep Armstrong had already been made before the fans got into the ground.

The Athletic only exists because they know how to get the chickens clucking. They've already been proven wrong about Harrison Armstrong.

Let's see if Jake O'Brien is sold. Let's see if we pay 35m for Richarlison. Let's see if these glorified gossip mongers get anything right at all...

Ian Horan
174 Posted 30/08/2026 at 20:59:59

apologies for multiple posting, not sure what happened

Chris James
175 Posted 30/08/2026 at 21:08:06

Beto to Fiorentina for 20m?
Seems like we’d need one more striker of true?

Ian Horan
176 Posted 30/08/2026 at 21:09:25

weve offer €18 mill balugin from Monaco

Ian Bennett
177 Posted 30/08/2026 at 21:40:01

Sean 160 - I am fairly certain tfg owe £40m odd in deferred consideration. My hunch is Mosh is paying the Burnley bill.

Chris James
178 Posted 30/08/2026 at 21:43:26

As Ian says, according to Sacha Tavolieri, Folarin Balogun wants to join Everton Football Club. Everton have submitted a proposal of €18M to AS Monaco and are pushing to sign the American striker. Balogun has an agreement with Everton.

Balogun, Barry and Richarlison feels like a definite attacking upgrade, with Grealish, George, KDH and Dibling/Johnson providing the bullets... add in Hackney, Garner, Armstrong and Norgaard winning the ball, and an actual right back, and you're looking at a decent squad here!

Ian Bennett
179 Posted 30/08/2026 at 21:57:17

I thought there would be more money to spend than they have with that Chris net.

I wasnt against selling nduaye, but that was on the back of tfg sticking their hand in their pocket and adding real young, quality footballers to the group.

The above is an upgrade. But it is a temporary upgrade, I thought we'd moved on from here though.

And the decision to enter discussionsv on Armstrong was a massive mistake.

Tommy Carter
180 Posted 30/08/2026 at 22:17:46

@178

There’ll be no Armstrong and Norgaard. Make no mistake, as soon as the Dane is fit he will supplant Armstrong in the starting XI.

Let’s look at the facts. Only 1 of 2 possible things happened with the Armstrong debacle.

1) Moyes was against this transfer but was completely unable to convince the board against it. He was unable to act as an effective agent on behalf of the supporters. He was absolutely incapable of achieving by himself what the fans achieved in turning the board against this transfer. This is worrying as it shows that our manager does not have the force of personality to properly influence those above him about football decisions.

2) Moyes was consulted and was ok with the transfer. Moyes does have a say. He was consulted that a player needs to be sold and out of the options of O’Brien, N’Diaye and Armstrong - he was comfortable with Armstrong going.

Worrying also - if it was this eventuality, how can our manager be so out of touch with the club, the supporters?

My feeling is that this was option 2 all day long. No doubt Moyes’ initial start point was or would be: don’t sell any of the players. If realistically I think he was given options and I think that he must’ve given this deal a green light. He would give it a green light, because as soon as it allows - he won’t be picking Armstrong. He doesn’t want a pressure of playing him and developing him. He doesn’t know how to develop young talent.

In his mind he’s thinking of what will keep him in a job at Everton as long as possible. And it’s not a player who may be awesome in 3 years. It’s a player that’s actually quite good and a match winner right now (N’Diaye). It’s absolutely no coincidence that the N’Diaye transfer has gathered pace in the last 24 hours … it’s because these were the options and bow the Armstrong transfer has been pulled by the board - the N’Diaye transfer goes ahead. Look at it this way, if this wasn’t the case do we all believe we’d have sold Armstrong and N’Diaye in the same transfer window? Absolutely not. It was one or the other and Moyes green lighted the Armstrong transfer and then portrayed himself as some kind of victim in the press. He can always hide behind ‘I didn’t want to sell any of them and that was my stance’ but the reality was that he was involved (heavily) in the decision to push Armstrong onto Forest. And not because he’s ’an Evertonian’ it’s because he’s a selfish football manager that knows he needs to battle his way through short term outcomes repeatedly to achieve a long term period of employment at an incredible football club.

Jeff Armstrong
181 Posted 30/08/2026 at 22:21:05

Wow Tommy that’s some stretch.
There is definitely collusion going on with the fees being reportedly paid between Chelsea, Citeh, Spurs etc, now we are happily being dragged down the same route, so the questions are not the fees, because they are not real, it’s whether we are happy losing, Ndiaye & Beto, and bringing in Grealish, Tete, Richarlison and Balogen?
2 for 4 , for me, that strengthens the squad .
Richarlison when fit, is a better finisher than Barry
Tete is a better right back than JOB or Rohl
Balogen is better than Beto
Ndiaye is better than Grealish,
but Ndiaye facilitates the whole scenario

Chris James
182 Posted 30/08/2026 at 22:40:34

The thing that people here seems to be ignoring is that the days when people could spend into oblivion have gone. Doesn't matter how rich you are, there's only a certain amount you can lose each year, including transfers.

Using the calcs below, which I realise are not really how transfers are ammortised, we have run a net transfer loss over the last 5 years inc this one of €96m, before the NDiaye/RIchy deal, €65M after.

My idiots version using Transfermarkt's estimates is below:

> In 26/27 thus far we've spent almost €100M on fees for George, Rohl, Hackney, Norgaard and Johnson, recouping just €26M equivalent for McNeill.
Total loss as it stands of c. €74M

N.B. If we add in €41M for Richarlison [reported £35M, I think that's too high), €10.5M for Tete, but bring back €76M for NDiaye then we're down to a loss of €43.5M

> In 25/26 we brought in Dibling, Barry, KDH, Alcaraz, Aznou and Travers for an estimated €130M, bringing in just €12.6M via Maupay and Chermiti sales
Thus a loss of €117m

> In 24/25 we sold Onana, Dobbin and Godfrey for €84M and spent just €50M on O'brien, NDiaye, Iroegbunam and Lindstrom
So a €33M surplus

> In 23/24 we brought in Beto, Chermiti and Danjuma for €40M, but sold Moise Kean, Iwobi, Gray, Canon, Simms and Nkounkou for €83M
So a €42M surplus

> In 22/23 we got Onana, McNeill, Maupay, Garner and Gueye for around €83M, but sold off Richarlison and Gordon for €103M
A surplus of €20M

> In 21/22 we bought Mykolenko, Patterson and Demarai Gray for almost €40m, sold Digne, Rodriguez, Kean + Bernard [both on loan] for €46M
A surplus of €6.5m

Thus, it depends where you do your sums:
– If you go from 22/23 to 26/27, assuming no further moves, we're on a loss of €96m, before NDiaye/Rich deal
– For 5 years from 21/22 to 25/26, our overall transfer loss was a more modest €14M

Jeff Armstrong
183 Posted 30/08/2026 at 22:44:38

So in a nutshell, what are you saying Chris?

Tommy Carter
184 Posted 30/08/2026 at 22:48:15

@181 Jeff. It’s not a stretch is it Jeff? Are you suggesting he was completely blind sided by the Armstrong transfer?

Really?

This was clearly a case of N’Diaye or Armstrong and I don’t believe for a second that Moyes played absolutely no part in the decision making about which deal to proceed with.

Besides this, we are conducting some awful business here. Richarlison is on a downward curve. Massive wages and an injury record.

Tete - big wages, downward curve and no, I’m not actually sure he is a better right back than Jake O’Brien.

Balogun - this is not a deal we will complete. It’s rumour and bluster. And it also doesn’t matter what centre forward we sign - Moyes has managed for 30 years almost without a strikwr getting above 15 premier league goals We could sign Haaland and he’d get about 9 or 10 under Moyes.

Jeff Armstrong
185 Posted 30/08/2026 at 22:56:45

Tommy it’s all speculation and rumours, let’s just wait until Wednesday morning and then we’ll have a proper debate about the transfer window and the coming months, by late December we’ll have all forgotten that Harrison was touted for £40 million, as he goes back to PNE on loan, cos he can’t get a place in a flying Everton team, (we can only dream )😏

Mark Taylor
186 Posted 30/08/2026 at 22:56:48

Chris, you're calling it 'a loss' but that isn't how it works.It's a cost of doing business to stay an EPL club.

Can I suggest you have a look at the 5 year net spend of EUR 96m and see where that puts us relative to other EPL clubs. Bottom 25% The 'more modest' EUR 14m would put us dead last.

And yet our CEO tells us we are in the top third of EPL clubs by revenue. We don't behave like it. We scratch around for cast offs and have or are trying to sell two of our best players to clubs who finished under us.

People talk about Bournemouth or Brighton, who are way smaller clubs than us, yet to give you an example, the former sell Semenyo but they don't then get in some ageing former favourite, they spend £25m on an exiting new talent who rumour has it is now attracting bids of £100m plus. They bank most of the Semenyo fee then get another bite.

Jack Convery
187 Posted 30/08/2026 at 00:18:51

With regards to Richy - Do Spurs still owe us money, from when they bought him ie say £15m. They ask us to write it off and we pay £20m for him to come back. That could be the £35m figure they are talking about. Just a thought. N'daiye wants a low ball release figure included in any new contract with us. We've rightly said no.

Paul Kossoff
188 Posted 30/08/2026 at 00:20:26

£65 million for I N, £35 million for Richarlson. So they get rid of a player that has told the manager he wants to go we get £65 m, then give them back £35 m. Please Everton don't do it. £79 m for I N, then wait till the last hour and offer £25 m for Ricky. Tell Fulham to fk off as well.

Gavin Johnson
189 Posted 30/08/2026 at 00:36:11

Paul, it's not even £65m. It was disclosed as £60m on MotD tonight.

It's fair enough in today's market to pay £25M rising to £35M for Richarlison who will get you 10+ goals a season, but why are Spurs paying well below the market value...?! Clearly they have smelt blood in the water and know we can't buy anyone without selling... Questions need to be asked why that is when you have the CEO saying we're now just outside the Top 6 for income.

I also don't see how the lack of spending on transfers is because of the new financial rules as we've just started a 3 year cycle. It has to be because Burnley have shafted the club, and TFG are shafting us to get their £36m back.

Brendan McLaughlin
190 Posted 30/08/2026 at 00:38:56

Don't normally do conspiracy theories.

Can't help but feel, however, that the club backing down on the "transfer" of Harrison Armstrong was a ruse designed to pull the rug from under any negative backlash to Ndiaye's sale

Brendan McLaughlin
191 Posted 30/08/2026 at 00:54:40

Gavin #189

There's no three year cycle thing under the new SCR rules.

Not that your concept of three year cycles under PSR isn't correct either. Under PSR it was three year "rolling" cycles. So after the first three years... Year 1 dropped off the radar and Year 4 became the new Year 3 and on and on...

Gavin Johnson
192 Posted 31/08/2026 at 01:12:07

Brendan, so if the lack of transfer spending isn't because of the new SCR what is it then because we are treated like the poor relations compared to Roma, even though the club have nearly doubled our sponsorship income, placed huge hikes on season tickets, make a lot more money on match days and extra stadium events. I realise there's still a couple of 100m in debt but that was refinanced to be paid over years.

It doesn't add up to me, unless they TFG have zero ambition and just want to tick things over until they sell.

Brendan McLaughlin
193 Posted 31/08/2026 at 01:24:46

Gavin #192

Wish I knew mate but it has to be either what you suggest in your final sentence or despite the new stadium, refinancing etc... we've still got very limited room for manouvre under SCR.

I don't see any other possible explanations.

Paul Griffiths
194 Posted 31/08/2026 at 01:52:32

Grealish 31 in a few days: Tete 31 in just over 5 weeks; Richarlison 30 next May. Well, we are certainly, as some say, buying young for resale. The stellar work of our crack recruitment team and state-of-the-art diagnostics clearly on display in these three buys, just as with Johnson, Norgaad, Hackney, George, and Rohl.

Tete is embarrassing. We will not sign anyone who does not want to play for the club and we have a number one right-back target, said Angus Liar

Grealish is embarrassing:

https://www.facebook.com/100063639967770/posts/jack-grealish-was-spotted-completely-passed-out-at-a-table-in-a-manchester-rooft/1548239113974073/

Richarlison? Genuinely unsure here. Hope it works for nostalgia alone. But that is one of the issues here: nostalgia.

Great work crack recruitment team and state-of-the-art diagnostics.

Eric Myles
195 Posted 31/08/2026 at 02:45:04

Mick #75 "as for Tete words fail me, all summer searching for a right back"

According to Kinnear we were intent on getting our number one pick for right back so I don't think they did any searching at all. Moyes reportedly wanted Doué but TFG weren't prepared to pay the money.

Unless then pull a rabbit out of the hat and sign a first choice right back and have Tête as back up he's our draft first pick. Should mean Patterson is going somewhere as he'll be fifth choice starter.

Eric Myles
196 Posted 31/08/2026 at 02:58:02

Dale #114 "I suppose one cannot rule that out with an owner that could not be here to welcome the PM to our house."

Now here's an idea, Andy invites Dan over for the derby game so he gets to see the passion the supporters have for the Club.

He surely can't say no?

Eric Myles
197 Posted 31/08/2026 at 03:23:48

Tommy #180 "He would give it a green light, because as soon as it allows - he won’t be picking Armstrong. He doesn’t want a pressure of playing him and developing him. He doesn’t know how to develop young talent."

Your rambling falls apart in two points

1. Moyes did play Armstrong when he was the subject of transfer negotiations, and also in five games prior to that.

2. Moyes has developed a lot of young talent.

And
"to achieve a long term period of employment at an incredible football club."

He doesn't have a long term period of employment.

Eric Myles
198 Posted 31/08/2026 at 03:42:59

There is a 'cycle' of sorts on the SCR Brendan # 191 and it has to do with the overspend.

"Each club is granted a multi-year allowance, which allows them to exceed the green threshold. This multi-year allowance is calculated in the following steps. For example, if a club is promoted to the Premier League, it starts with a Green Threshold of 85% and a Red Threshold of 115%. If he now spends 95% of his football-related income, his allowance in the Red Threshold will be reduced by the percentage of the overrun from the previous season. In this case, that means he keeps the green threshold of 85%, but his red threshold drops to 105%. This can be done until the red threshold is also at 85%. But clubs can also increase the Red Threshold again. If the club in our example is 5% below its Green Threshold in the following season, this 5% is added to the following season’s Red Threshold, which would increase it to 110%."

Financial penalties are applied for exceeding the green threshold and points deductions for exceeding the red threshold.

Footballfinancelab

Matt Smith
199 Posted 31/08/2026 at 03:47:25

Yes Grealish at 30 or however old he is is probably still better than any other player in the squad but...I have so enjoyed watching Tyrique start the past 2 weeks. He is quick and entertaining and I fear he will be back bench warming if Jack returns.

Boring old Jack - yes noone can get the ball off him, but everyone in the ground knows he's going to hold up play and mess with a couple of defenders and then eventually get around to passing it.

Wait, if Illy goes potentially Tyrique can play with Jack?

Oh and Richarlison - bomerangs never work, in any business, its never the same. The team has changed and he has changed. Spend the money on another potentially bright young spark. Surely they couldn't be worse than Beto.

Mike Gaynes
200 Posted 31/08/2026 at 04:31:08

Eric #195...

"Moyes reportedly wanted Doué but TFG weren't prepared to pay the money."

Not true. Strasbourg wanted £40m. We submitted two offers. So did Bayer Leverkusen, Inter and, at the last minute, PSG to join his brother there. Doue chose Leverkusen, agreed personal terms and has pushed Strasbourg to accept their lower offer for £30m.

I'm guessing we could have topped that but the player really wanted the Bundesliga club according to Roundtable Sports.

I really like your idea of the PM inviting Friedkin to, essentially, his own house. Friedkin could hardly turn him down, right? Can somebody ring up Andy and suggest it?

Laurie Hartley
201 Posted 31/08/2026 at 04:38:30

I really rate Ndiaye he is an entertainer but I have also always liked Richarlison. He scores goals.

Richarlison would be a real asset to our current squad if we can keep him fit. He is not everyone's cup of tea but here is a little reminder of what he offers:-

Richarlison goals 2025

Eric Myles
202 Posted 31/08/2026 at 04:44:19

"Great work crack recruitment team and state-of-the-art diagnostics."

Perhaps they're looking at keeping our treatment table team busy for the season Paul? Wouldn't want to pay them for sitting around twiddling their thumbs all season.

Tommy Carter
203 Posted 31/08/2026 at 04:46:52

@197 Eric

1) He’s played Armstrong out of necessity. As soon as Norgaard is fit - Armstrong will be out of the team.

2) Who? Name them please.

My point being about long term employment - he wants to survive as long as he can in this job. He knows if he has the benefit of N’Diaye in his team this season, he will likely win more games than not having him. Which may keep him in a job at Everton for another year. N’Diaye is capable of hitting double figures for us this season. Armstrong probably isn’t.

Therefore he favours this ahead of keeping a player that could potentially be incredible in 3/4 years. Because unlike us, Moyes probably won’t be around at Everton. He also knows if N’Diaye goes - he might be out of a job sooner than if he stays.

Steve Brown
204 Posted 31/08/2026 at 05:59:49

Paul @ 194, there is a trend at Everton to sign or re-sign older players.

Grealish - 30 years old
Christian Norgaard - 32 years old
Kenny Tete - 30 years old
Richarlison - 29 years old
Michael Keane - 33 years old (contract renewal)
James Tarkowski - 33 years old (contract renewal)
Jordan Pickford - 32 years old (contract renewal).

Even Gana Gueye was offered a contract extension. That must be at the insistence of the manager to offset TFG’s focus on signing younger players with resale potential.

If we add the above players to the squad before Tuesday, they will all start ahead of the youngsters while Moyes is picking the team.

Mike Hayes
205 Posted 31/08/2026 at 07:05:47

If we’ve got to sell to buy and cheap at that then the £40m to Burnley must be a factor 🤷

Phil Roberts
206 Posted 30/08/2026 at 08:17:39

Are we sure we heard Illy correctly?

Are we sure he said he wanted to play in the Champions League and not said he wants to play in the Champions Hip?

Ian Bennett
207 Posted 31/08/2026 at 09:00:10

Steve, let's not be putting it at the managers door. The fact he is after these type of players is a lack of finance/upfront cash to spend £30-40m a pop, on younger players capable of delivering.

The proof is in the sale of Ndiaye, near sale of Armstrong and no right back coming in until Iroegbunam was sold.

Give him £40m and Doue would be here. Give him nothing, and we are in the bin for Tete.

I am sure Moyes would have been happy to take a Wharton over Norguard, and a Konsa over Keane. But that isnt our market, is it.

Ian Munford
208 Posted 31/08/2026 at 09:06:00

Richarlison was Spurs top scorer last season, just saying like.

Ian Munford
209 Posted 31/08/2026 at 09:10:56

And if Illy wanted to stay he’d have signed the new contract offered. But Spurs ffs, City would have been a far better move.

Ray Jacques
210 Posted 31/08/2026 at 09:16:04

Kinnear must be on the wrong app for searching world class talent. Only fans isn't the one for that.
Essentially 36 hours to not save our season, but to give us some belief that we intend on improving.
If they arent able to spend money, then be honest and tell us.

Ray Jacques
211 Posted 31/08/2026 at 09:23:03

Kinnear must be on the wrong app for searching world class talent. Only fans isn't the one for that.
Essentially 36 hours to not save our season, but to give us some belief that we intend on improving.
If they arent able to spend money, then be honest and tell us.

Jeff Armstrong
212 Posted 31/08/2026 at 09:45:10

We should pass on Tete and develop Rohl at RB in the coming months, I don’t think he’s gonna get much game time in midfield.
Apart from the ridiculous fee for Richarlison then for me that deal is going to happen,
Illy wants out unfortunately.
Balogum for Beto is a decent deal.
Grealish not sure, odd thing to say but my feelings are that we may as well have him than someone else, no fee, big wages
Armstrong now needs to be paid £40,000 a week from £1200.

Andrew Merrick
213 Posted 31/08/2026 at 10:08:14

Times running out, seems its Tete, Richy and Jack coming in.
Can we make that work? Short term maybe.
Bloody last minute desperate trading, really not good business, repercussions throughout the season.

Jeff Armstrong
214 Posted 31/08/2026 at 10:29:41

Andrew 213, all 3 will need replacing in about 3/4 transfer windows (2 years?)

Benjamin Dyke
215 Posted 31/08/2026 at 10:42:18

Andrew - that's a bit dramatic! We got a number of things sorted early and then it's been waiting out for players and clubs to get stuff sorted and to make sure we make ends meet. Not very dramatic but I am glad we aren't Spurs or Chelsea

Andrew Ellams
216 Posted 31/08/2026 at 11:01:10

Grealish, Richarlison and Tete seems a bit like Everton of old to me. Last chance saloon for all of them.

I don't think Balogan has what it takes to make a major impression in the Premier League.

Jeff Armstrong
217 Posted 31/08/2026 at 11:17:52

Kevin Thelwell was better than these clowns

Paul Hewitt
218 Posted 31/08/2026 at 11:34:03

Richy not keen on a return apparently. He could go Saudi. Don't blame him.

Mike Doyle
219 Posted 31/08/2026 at 11:34:35

Jeff (212). If the salary figure you quote for Armstrong is correct I’m not surprised he would be open to offers from Forest et al (his position I certainly would have).

Are you confident that our new (world class) transfer committee will be offering him a deal that reflects his value? If not I guess we remain vulnerable to further approaches in January.

Steve Brown
220 Posted 31/08/2026 at 12:02:55

Ian @ 207, that is partly true to be fair.

Given that we generated £265 million in commercial revenue last season and will beat that this season if are competitive in the cups, it is TFG who have decided they want us to sell to buy. It is not financial pressure.

But Moyes always wants more senior players in the squad. He expects to see young players serve their apprenticeship before they are regular starters - 6 months on the bench with occasional sub appearances, rotating in and out of the side on the flanks, gradual assimilation into the starting 11 over 12-18 months.

If the manager could spend £50 million plus on a player, he would be looking at players aged 24 years and over with premier league experience- KDH type profiles. Adam Wharton is exceptional for his age, has won 3 trophies, England international and will fetch £100 million plus so probably not the profile for us for 5 years.

Andrew Merrick
221 Posted 31/08/2026 at 12:34:38

If Beto goes and Belogun comes then Richy can go to Saudi.
Belogun could fit well in a younger more dynamic squad, if the manger picks and rotates them, he has given minutes recently and he would have to carry on with that for this to work.
I suppose that could accomodate Jack, but it would make him an expensive luxury squad player, the deal would have to be structured well.
Tete is what he is, a make do signing, not a marque signing.

Les Callan
222 Posted 31/08/2026 at 12:57:27

Andrew. Marquee signing ? Last time we did that was for the tent behind the Park End.

Dale Self
223 Posted 31/08/2026 at 13:13:11

Marquee de Sade with this bunch of suits.

Maybe drop the last e.

Bill Gall
224 Posted 31/08/2026 at 13:14:51

There are 2 positions that definitely needed filling and that is at right back and a goalscorer and unless these 2 positions are filled with talented players this window will be a failure. It looks as we may have filled the right back position with an experienced player but age usually increases the injury factor and we need a backup for this position. We definitely need a goalscorer as it looks like Beto may be leaving and that leaves us with Bambi on ice as our main striker. Out goings are hard to control when large payments are offered for players we payed reasonable prices for, but sometimes the profit margin does not take in the value of the position this player occupies and another player in this position may cost more but not be as effective. We Need A Goalscorer ?. No good having a good defense if every time they win the ball and pass it forwards it comes right back at them. Do not waste money on ex players, they may have been good before but is does not mean they are at the same standard as when we sold them ?
We are supposed to have an experienced backroom staff lets see if they are as good as they claim to be,

Mark Murphy
225 Posted 31/08/2026 at 13:19:55

Moise Kean, Chermiti, Barry, Balogun….

Ian Bennett
226 Posted 31/08/2026 at 13:19:56

Partly? Come, come, you know Moyes is being held back by a club, not giving him what he needs.

Is Moyes any different in wanting 24 year olds+ that are able to get wins, goals and assists, than Liverpool, Arsenal, City?

Are those clubs buying a load of kids or 30 year olds to play now? Are they fairy cakes. They're buying players in their prime - Konsa, Semenyo, Guehi, Rogers, Anderson, Doku, Cherki, Rice, etc.

We have a good base. But we needed a quality left back, right back, centre back, right winger and striker. The club have failed him in backing him. Fact.

Moyes, along with the fans blocked the sale of Armstrong.

John Collins
227 Posted 31/08/2026 at 13:37:23

Moyes blocked the Armstrong sale, Ian?

How do you know that?

Steve Brown
228 Posted 31/08/2026 at 14:25:58

Partly Ian @ 226, because I agree that TFG have decided that this summer we will sell to buy.

I don’t agree with the rest of your points.

Most clubs do give more minutes to players over 24 years old and Everton are no different giving 45% of minutes to players between 24 years old and 29 years old

Where Moyes is very different is that he gave more playing minutes to post-peak players over 29 years old than 17 of the other Premier League clubs last season - 37%. Only 2 other managers gave more minutes to older players than him.

And of course there is a trade off for that. Man City gave 25% of playing minutes to players under 24 years old, Chelsea gave 31%, Liverpool gave 32%, Man U gave 33% and Brighton gave 46%. This was despite the fact they were challenging for Europe.

Moyes gave 18% of playing minutes to players under 24 years old, which is funny given TFG’s long term football plan is to invest in young talent and build the Academy pipeline. The clubs above are working to a clear strategy, Everton hired a manager who is at odds with their strategy - bizarre.

So Moyes likes to select older players, he picks older players over young players, and he will play Norgaard, Richarlison, Grealish and Tete over the younger players this season given the chance.

Moyes played it smart by describing himself as an Evertonian and saying it was a club decision. And TFG’s stupidity means that you and your fellow Moyes lovers like Martin and Kevin can now blame all the failings on them and exonerate Moyes.

Congrats!

Conor McCourt
229 Posted 31/08/2026 at 14:36:49

Enlightening post that Steve, well researched!

Mike Allison
230 Posted 31/08/2026 at 14:45:27

https://theesk.org/2026/08/31/everton-football-club-player-trading-strategy-summer-2026/amp/

Paul Quinn (The Esk) has produced a really detailed analysis of what TFG are doing. Hell of a long read, but summed up as being “sell-to-buy” whilst implicitly praising what’s been done so far from a financial point of view.

We’re cheaper to run, have many assets that should appreciate but not any ‘better’ (more ambitious) on the pitch.

It essentially says selling Armstrong or N’Diaye is the only way we can go shopping and remain compliant with regulations.

My personal interpretation is that it makes both domestic cups the key to everything. If we can’t afford to compete financially in the league, then we have to see both cups as they way we can ‘be successful’.

Steve Brown
231 Posted 31/08/2026 at 14:48:37

Cheers Conor, hope you are keeping well.

Good to see you posting on here again.

Dale Rose
232 Posted 31/08/2026 at 14:49:24

Chris 178.

How dare you show signs of positivity on this site. This is Toffeweb, we are like archaeologists, we dig up old players and cant agree on fuck all.

(Younger players are available) Terms and conditions apply.

Chris James
233 Posted 31/08/2026 at 15:41:37

Afternoon all, how are we holding up?

Wouldn't be Everton if it didn't come down to the wire, tomorrow's going to be busy!
Possible Ins: Tete, Ward, Balogun, Grealish, Richarlison
Outs: Beto [done] NDiaye, Patterson, Iroegbunam, Alcaraz

The NDiaye last minute destination drama continues, I don't hate the idea that a bigger club comes in over the top on Spurs last mnute!

Andrew Ellams
234 Posted 31/08/2026 at 15:54:57

The Times now reporting that both Richarlison and Balogan are looking less than likely.

Mark Steers
235 Posted 31/08/2026 at 16:09:12

I really don't get the bad noises at the recruitment.

Everton have got Hackney, Rohl, Johnson and George for less than Liam Delap -- amazing buisness! Everton are in this market till we have a few seasons at the Hill Dickinson Stadium and start making lots of money. But right now, we've been careful and I think we will make Europe easily.

Stop being sheep and think what you're saying. Look at Jeff @212 -- he says Everton should give Armstrong £40k a week... Wow! Why? He hasn't done anything yet!

He's just starting out in his career. If Forest had never come in, you would say that's crazy Everton are where they are and moving slowly. Bring on the Mancs.

Liam Mogan
236 Posted 31/08/2026 at 16:27:48

This must be the most tedious transfer window of all time. Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing, as some bloke once said.

Jay Harris
237 Posted 31/08/2026 at 17:00:38

I would be quite happy if we kept Ndiaye, sold Beto and just get Balogun and/or Richy and a decent RB.

That would be strengthening the squad and NOT selling our best players.

Illy is contracted until 2029 so we have plenty of time to sell him and if he wants Europe tell him to go balls out wth us this season.

Andrew Merrick
238 Posted 31/08/2026 at 18:03:52

Gakpo to City is stalling, they might switch to Illy now...

Ian Carter
239 Posted 31/08/2026 at 19:27:51

Correct Andrew. Just got the alert from The Athletic. Illy to City for £65 million.

Mal van Schaick
240 Posted 31/08/2026 at 19:44:34

Ndaiye to city 60 million plus add ons.

Andrew Merrick
241 Posted 31/08/2026 at 21:07:19

Things moving at pace now guys, how much more to come?

Lee Jackson
242 Posted 31/08/2026 at 21:08:50

Tim to Hull back on

Jack Convery
243 Posted 01/09/2026 at 02:50:47

Everton have agreed a season-long loan deal to sign Man City star Jack Grealish, according to David Ornstein. We pay 90% of his wages and no fee involved.

Paul Griffiths
244 Posted 01/09/2026 at 03:02:33

90% of his huge wage for a maverick pisshead who is 31 in 10 days and will embarrass us again pre- and post-injury.