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Moyes Bad-mouthing City
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Just reading Moyes's comments on Sky Sports claiming in short that City players are individuals, feel little for the club, and are years behind getting a team spirit like Everton. All true perhaps, but that's not the point I'm looking to make...
While playing mind games in an effort to give your side an advantage is a part of the modern game (it certainly worked for the Goodison game v City), comments like this when playing AWAY against a very good side regardless, is surely giving City more motivation to beat us (not that they need much motivating), while serving very little in motivating our own players?
I just feel it was an uncalled for rant that may very well leave us with egg on our faces come 10pm tonight. By all means, say it in the dressing room befire KO, but not publicly. Hope I'm on here tomorrow holding my hands up and saying Moyes knows best...
GJ Butler, Posted 24/03/2010 at 10:32:49
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Nick Entwistle
2 Posted 24/03/2010 at 13:49:22
2 Posted 24/03/2010 at 13:49:22
I'm no bothered with City and their m... oops, billions, nor was I when Chelsea were took over.
I may not be over keen on either, but so long as they keep Liverpool from winning anything, I don't care.
With Moyies' comments, would this suggst that he is looking for a supreme team performance tonight, and the more City struggle against it, the more their individuals will try to be individuals to overcome it, thus resulting in an even biggen score line... you see, sussed! Not difficult... ahem...
I may not be over keen on either, but so long as they keep Liverpool from winning anything, I don't care.
With Moyies' comments, would this suggst that he is looking for a supreme team performance tonight, and the more City struggle against it, the more their individuals will try to be individuals to overcome it, thus resulting in an even biggen score line... you see, sussed! Not difficult... ahem...
Andy Codling
3 Posted 24/03/2010 at 14:04:41
3 Posted 24/03/2010 at 14:04:41
It was great to see that arrogant twat Mark Hughes get fucked off though
Dan Parker
4 Posted 24/03/2010 at 14:09:27
4 Posted 24/03/2010 at 14:09:27
I always knew Hughes would get sacked, no less than he deserves.
And as for Lescott, I'd rather have Johnny Heitinga any day of the week!
And as for Lescott, I'd rather have Johnny Heitinga any day of the week!
Shaun Brennan
5 Posted 24/03/2010 at 14:07:39
5 Posted 24/03/2010 at 14:07:39
they are classless wanker though!
Ajay Gopal
6 Posted 24/03/2010 at 14:53:13
6 Posted 24/03/2010 at 14:53:13
Agree with you, GJ Butler. There is no need to put down a team before the game - it could very well have the opposite effect.
Matt Traynor
7 Posted 24/03/2010 at 15:09:42
7 Posted 24/03/2010 at 15:09:42
We may disagree, but personally I think Moyes doesn't do enough bad-mouthing.
It's a sign of the times. Media management being key etc. But Moyes needs to realise one thing, and quick (I suspect he does):
Everton is as good as it's gonna get for him. Anywhere else in the Prem will be a back step. Celtic would be a back step.
So when charmless cunts like FSW refer to us as a small club, or when Hughes was a dick over the Lescott thing - STAND UP and defend our honour. Because no-one else can or will.
Forgetting the up and down nature of being an Everton fan for one moment, one emotion never wavers - pride. If our manager can show that (and I think he does) then he's half way to winning the fans over.
It's a sign of the times. Media management being key etc. But Moyes needs to realise one thing, and quick (I suspect he does):
Everton is as good as it's gonna get for him. Anywhere else in the Prem will be a back step. Celtic would be a back step.
So when charmless cunts like FSW refer to us as a small club, or when Hughes was a dick over the Lescott thing - STAND UP and defend our honour. Because no-one else can or will.
Forgetting the up and down nature of being an Everton fan for one moment, one emotion never wavers - pride. If our manager can show that (and I think he does) then he's half way to winning the fans over.
Tom Bowers
8 Posted 24/03/2010 at 15:19:49
8 Posted 24/03/2010 at 15:19:49
We cannot be concerned about some teams with endless bank accounts.What matters is what happens on the field with whatever players you have.We also have players that cost big money and some others who are worth big money if we sell them.City are trying to catch up with Manure.What'swrong with that? We have been playing catch up to Redshite for years.It all comes down to attitude,commitment and coaching in the end and those teams that produce it consistantly usually become winners. Moyes doesn't need to start criticising other teams for what they have.It is totally out of character.
Ciarán McGlone
9 Posted 24/03/2010 at 15:51:25
9 Posted 24/03/2010 at 15:51:25
Not only may it give them a motivation... it's bloody petty. Moyes should know better, and be above that kind of shite.
Peter Warren
10 Posted 24/03/2010 at 16:18:29
10 Posted 24/03/2010 at 16:18:29
Players should keep their mouths shut. Manager should say what he likes - he is in a position to gage what effect it has or does not have on his players and opposition.
I for one and made up he's having a go at City, he doesn't usually and I agree if we get a tonking it's wrong decision. There was no point in playing these mind games in the past because we weren't a v. good team. It is v. risky, City haven't been beaten in league all season at home.
However, I think it shows he has huge confidence in our team and he believes the positives outweigh the negatives and I am prepared to bow to his judgment.
I for one and made up he's having a go at City, he doesn't usually and I agree if we get a tonking it's wrong decision. There was no point in playing these mind games in the past because we weren't a v. good team. It is v. risky, City haven't been beaten in league all season at home.
However, I think it shows he has huge confidence in our team and he believes the positives outweigh the negatives and I am prepared to bow to his judgment.
Mike Elbey
11 Posted 24/03/2010 at 16:20:34
11 Posted 24/03/2010 at 16:20:34
Sorry but the contempt and lack of respect shown to us by City last summer deserve to be highlighted every time we play them.
What happened rightly hurt Moyes and the only way he can respond is when we play them.
Personally I want our manager to represent the views of us, the supporters - is he that wide of the mark with what he has said ?
His comments will have no bearing on the result. We will either play well and have a chance or play shit and lose, simple as that.
What happened rightly hurt Moyes and the only way he can respond is when we play them.
Personally I want our manager to represent the views of us, the supporters - is he that wide of the mark with what he has said ?
His comments will have no bearing on the result. We will either play well and have a chance or play shit and lose, simple as that.
Julian Wait
12 Posted 24/03/2010 at 16:33:30
12 Posted 24/03/2010 at 16:33:30
Would love to see the City programme for tonight's game and how they cover the Lescott issue, if anyone can oblige ....
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Fran Mitchell
13 Posted 24/03/2010 at 17:10:46
13 Posted 24/03/2010 at 17:10:46
In regards to Moyes comments, I very much imagine they are a response to a question put to him. I very much doubt Mr Moyes phoned up sky to simply 'have a go'. They had an interview with Moyes, asked a number of questions and will quote him accordingly. Its a nothing story to fill the pages with.
Alan Clarke
14 Posted 24/03/2010 at 17:19:33
14 Posted 24/03/2010 at 17:19:33
City's defence is a mess when they're all fit but I really fancy our chances against them tonight with Lescott and Birdge missing.
I've got a good feeling about tonight and I can't wait to shut them arrogant pricks up by taking 6 points off them this season.
I've got a good feeling about tonight and I can't wait to shut them arrogant pricks up by taking 6 points off them this season.
Ged Simpson
15 Posted 24/03/2010 at 18:08:35
15 Posted 24/03/2010 at 18:08:35
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Ellen West
16 Posted 24/03/2010 at 18:12:09
16 Posted 24/03/2010 at 18:12:09
Be fair! Moyes was asked a loaded question. I personally felt it was a good strong answer. If anything the media are trying to whip up an old story.
Gerry Quinn
17 Posted 24/03/2010 at 18:05:33
17 Posted 24/03/2010 at 18:05:33
Mike Elbey, spot on lad, totally agree with all of your comments.
Moyesie was asked more than once to pass comments on City, the Lescott saga and how it affected our season.
A man who everyone knows is respectful AND dignified has re-stated his utter dissatisfaction with the events of the summer and the behaviour/attitude of City -and Hughes in particular, with his comments about side-stepping Moyes!
Fire our boys up as high as you can tonight, Moysie, and PUMMEL the ba$#@rds a second time!
Moyesie was asked more than once to pass comments on City, the Lescott saga and how it affected our season.
A man who everyone knows is respectful AND dignified has re-stated his utter dissatisfaction with the events of the summer and the behaviour/attitude of City -and Hughes in particular, with his comments about side-stepping Moyes!
Fire our boys up as high as you can tonight, Moysie, and PUMMEL the ba$#@rds a second time!
Mark Williams
18 Posted 24/03/2010 at 18:24:39
18 Posted 24/03/2010 at 18:24:39
I shared the thoughts of the original poster when I saw the article.
Gotta go down as a schoolboy error from Dave, but it'll be sweet as if we turn them over.
Against all odds I fancy it - frantic 3-2 win coming up.
I really do have hatred for shitty - come on lads!!!!!
Gotta go down as a schoolboy error from Dave, but it'll be sweet as if we turn them over.
Against all odds I fancy it - frantic 3-2 win coming up.
I really do have hatred for shitty - come on lads!!!!!
Tom Bowers
19 Posted 24/03/2010 at 18:28:20
19 Posted 24/03/2010 at 18:28:20
Moyes should remain dignified and not stoop to the level of other spokespersons representing other clubs unless he wants to be classed in the same bracket as those eternal bickerers Benitez and Ferguson. I agree BS doesn't win games so I would prefer he shows more class.
Jip Foster
20 Posted 24/03/2010 at 18:53:50
20 Posted 24/03/2010 at 18:53:50
It's not just Moyes - Pip was also at it:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/everton/7507101/Phil-Neville-I-would-never-swap-Everton-for-moneybags-Manchester-City.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/everton/7507101/Phil-Neville-I-would-never-swap-Everton-for-moneybags-Manchester-City.html
James Flynn
21 Posted 24/03/2010 at 20:52:24
21 Posted 24/03/2010 at 20:52:24
Moyes should do the same thing for every game left this season. He now has assembled enough talent that EPL Silverware aspirations in 2011 are legit. The question is which talent is ready for the grind that ManU and Chelsea accept as part of striving to be the best.
Having DM throw down the gauntlet every week for the rest of the season will help find out who's up for the pressure and who's not. Some of the "who's not"s are actually very talented players. Sell them off at season's end.
Oh, and bring back Donovan.
Having DM throw down the gauntlet every week for the rest of the season will help find out who's up for the pressure and who's not. Some of the "who's not"s are actually very talented players. Sell them off at season's end.
Oh, and bring back Donovan.
David Hallwood
22 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:19:55
22 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:19:55
In the absence of a thread, I'm listening to the game on City and DM’s just taken off Saha and put Rodwell on FFS, we’re 1-0 up and under the cosh and this is just inviting pressure
Lee Kidd
23 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:37:27
23 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:37:27
David Hallwood, eat your words!
Christopher McCullough
24 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:39:34
24 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:39:34
Im sure David will GLADLY eat his words.
This is brilliant stuff
This is brilliant stuff
Brendan McLaughlin
25 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:40:08
25 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:40:08
Moyes & Mancini both red carded
Christopher McCullough
26 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:41:44
26 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:41:44
Mancini has some balls squaring up to scary eyes!
Dermot Ryan
27 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:42:23
27 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:42:23
In all seriousness...can you guys post when its done and what's the score? I have 2-0 everton as of 85
Dermot Ryan
28 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:43:16
28 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:43:16
And what's all this about Moyes and Mancini? I'm blind here.
Christopher McCullough
29 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:45:05
29 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:45:05
Game over. 2-0
Duncan McDine
30 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:44:12
30 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:44:12
GET IN THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what a result.... good lads.
what a result.... good lads.
Keith Glazzard
31 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:45:02
31 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:45:02
Moyes called it perfectly. Good away result - didn't that take their unbeaten home record?
Rob Murphy
32 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:46:34
32 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:46:34
Lotta egg on Davie's face tonight lad!!!
Neil Humphrey
33 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:47:31
33 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:47:31
Piece of piss. You can't buy team spirit.
Andrew Mackenzie
34 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:26:06
34 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:26:06
Erm well said David... get Sopcast or Veetle and watch game, other than 25 mins of hard pressure in first half never looked like losing.
Anthony O'Sullivan
35 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:46:41
35 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:46:41
Great result plus Villa drew and Brum lost good night all round.
Alan Ross
36 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:51:20
36 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:51:20
Srambled or poached ?
Danny Jones
37 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:55:08
37 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:55:08
If that ref doesn't say he got Moyes sending off wrong, then there should be a club appeal, or the ref and 4th offical should be banned. WTF happened there?
Benn Chambers
38 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:59:32
38 Posted 24/03/2010 at 21:59:32
What a fucking result!! Watched the game and the lads were superb! City had a spell of about 20 minutes but never gonna gonna break us down.
I am so proud of the lads tonight! Words can't express my sheer joy at beating those horrible fucking rotten gang of MANC TWATS! I detest that club and everything it stands for and I am grinning like a cheshire cat tonight! I only wish it was by a bigger margin. ROT IN HELL HORRIBLE MANC SCUM!
Wish Moyes would have jawed that Italian quilt though!
Awesome night Everton COYFB!!!
I am so proud of the lads tonight! Words can't express my sheer joy at beating those horrible fucking rotten gang of MANC TWATS! I detest that club and everything it stands for and I am grinning like a cheshire cat tonight! I only wish it was by a bigger margin. ROT IN HELL HORRIBLE MANC SCUM!
Wish Moyes would have jawed that Italian quilt though!
Awesome night Everton COYFB!!!
Keith Glazzard
39 Posted 24/03/2010 at 22:16:54
39 Posted 24/03/2010 at 22:16:54
Solid all over the park.
Passed, didn't hoof.
Two good goals - look at Rodwell's contribution to the second. It probably means that MiddlEastlands will come in with £50mill for him.
Passed, didn't hoof.
Two good goals - look at Rodwell's contribution to the second. It probably means that MiddlEastlands will come in with £50mill for him.
Tony Carney
40 Posted 25/03/2010 at 00:10:33
40 Posted 25/03/2010 at 00:10:33
Brilliant result blues but it would have been oh so funny for Moyesey to put Mancini on the floor then nick that twat of a scarf and wrap it round Lescott's neck.
David Hallwood
41 Posted 25/03/2010 at 00:55:46
41 Posted 25/03/2010 at 00:55:46
I was too busy dancin round the room to eat my words, but I'll happily eat them and worse to keep the run going. Does anybody agree its worse listening to a game than being there or watching it on telly
Derek Thomas
42 Posted 25/03/2010 at 03:59:18
42 Posted 25/03/2010 at 03:59:18
Can some one ask Westie if he's still got his handbag and can we somehow get it on to the pitch next time we play them.
IF Mancini is still there, he has now lost the same number of games as Hughes did.
At least his Dad could write a decent tune.
IF Mancini is still there, he has now lost the same number of games as Hughes did.
At least his Dad could write a decent tune.
Tony McNulty
43 Posted 26/03/2010 at 03:11:56
43 Posted 26/03/2010 at 03:11:56
Despite our manager’s comments about disruption, Joleon Lescott doesn’t bother me:
(1) We got about £15 million more for him than he is worth;
(2) I think we had his best years ;
(3) His injury record makes him a risk and his career could end at any moment;
(4) He is a mercenary (understandably) and was being offered silly money – short career as a footballer and all that; and
(5) He never claimed to be an Evertonian (unlike Mr “Once a blue… ", badge-kissing Cover Your Pies).
Don’t blame Lescott, but do blame the likes of the Fat Boy
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1 Posted 24/03/2010 at 13:46:24
"City have bought players who have got undoubted talent and can win games, individuals who can make a difference and given time they might have a team like Everton".
What a fantastic put-down! Right now, there's not a team I want to see fail any more than City. So let's show the bastards... let's hammer them!