The Mail Bag

The Blues Are Still Blue

Comments (39)

Listening to the Radio 5 build up to Liverpool v Sunderland last weekend raised another tinge of jealousy in me. It's something that has niggled at me for ages, forever possibly.

I heard in the background, playing over the loudspeaker "Heart As Big As Liverpool" by Pete Wylie. Great song. I'm jealous because that club truly embrace their roots in every possible way, down to choosing pre- and half-time music that celebrates the city's musical heritage.

The Beatles are regularly played at Anfield but would any visitor to Goodison make any connection with the Beatles? Can anyone ever remember them being played?

We are strictly small time in this respect. We play all the boy band X Factor stuff that's churning round the charts as well as that appalling thing that's boomed out throughout half-time. I honestly don't know what that sound is or for who's benefit it is played but it's terrible. We are seriously one step away from playing "Pig Bag" after each goal is scored.

I regard Everton as a culturally rich institution and the music played should be of a certain standard, whilst at the same time reinforcing in visitors, viewers and listeners that Everton is actually proud to be part of the world famous city of Liverpool. I for one would be happy to hear "Heart as big as Liverpool" at Goodison but if not that, why not "The story of the Blues" also by Pete Wylie?

Why don't we hear songs by Echo and the Bunnymen, Pale Fountains and Shack at the match. Even tenuous links like "The Blues are still Blue" by Belle and Sebastian would be a major improvement on current offerings. Any more suggestions along these lines?
John Kline, Warrington     Posted 31/03/2010 at 22:56:28

back Return to the Mail Bag

Comments

Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer


Ray Roche
1   Posted 01/04/2010 at 08:58:53

Report abuse

I remember in the sixties The Beatles stuff, and the "Mersey Sound" , was played all the time with the fans all joining in. It used to help make the atmosphere at matches. In fact even Glad All Over by the Dave Clark Five, the so called "Tottenham Sound", was well used with the fans in the stands stamping their feet on the wooden floors. Anyone else remember that?

Of course, history has been re-written to make everyone think that the Shite were the only fans that sang and swayed to that music, in fact, weren't they responsible for most of it? Who are Lennon and McCartney anyway?

Bitter? Me? Nooooo....

Shaun Brennan
2   Posted 01/04/2010 at 09:04:05

Report abuse

Shack, who else has heard of them apart from WSAG readers? Liverpool Football Club claim everything as there own. That's there thing.

Still wouldn't mind abit of the Killing Moon at half time. Oh wait — don't we play Forever Everton and the likes before kickoff?

Steven Connor
3   Posted 01/04/2010 at 09:12:42

Report abuse

John, one might suggest that 'Heart as big as Liverpool' is played not through any desire by the Liverpool PA to remind all of of Pete Wylie's 'genius' but beacuse it contains the eponymous lyrics?

As for The Beatles, that is clearly played ad nauseum over there because half of the crowd are visiting from other parts of the country on some sort of 'scouse weekend'.... trip to the cavern, go on the Mersey ferry, match at Anfield etc...

Methinks you are giving them too much credit!!
Kevin Hudson
4   Posted 01/04/2010 at 09:31:08

Report abuse

John, I agree with you. It's something I've thought for a while too. When the club plays generic pop music, you may as well be at an ice hockey match!

However, the traditional "Everton," music (Forever Everton, Grand Old Team, etc) coupled with images of illustrious Evertonian legends, always sends the proverbial tingle shooting down the collective spine, and serve as the unique identifier for me,and for visitors the the Old Lady.

A bit of Beatles wouldn't go amiss though... Any thoughts on what Fab Four songs sum us up best, anyone?!
Duncan McDine
5   Posted 01/04/2010 at 09:49:14

Report abuse

Couldn't agree more John... I feel a bit embarrassed when the crappy pop songs blare out at Goodison. The place deserves better.

Can't think of any Beetles songs that have a great connection with anything Blue, but I'm no expert... must be something. If not, just good old quality songs from the 60s from the best Scouse bands.
Duncan McDine
6   Posted 01/04/2010 at 09:56:07

Report abuse

How about "You'll never walk alone"?

... check today's date!
Larry Boner
7   Posted 01/04/2010 at 09:34:04

Report abuse

Every televised Liverpool home game, whether shown by BBC, Sky, ITV or ESPN, spends the time before kick-off panning around the crowd, all with their scarves above their heads or waving flags (which I am pretty sure are banned from grounds?) singing YNWA. The cameras always focussed on the "This is Anfield" sign before the teams come out. It just does not happen with any other team, the TV stations always cutting to an advert asap.

All of this is clearly stage managed to boost the Liverpool FC myth, the worldwide support for the only team in Liverpool.
But, we don't help ourselves, the game against Benfica was an opportunity, with the return of Eusebio, to show there is more than one team in this city. What did we do, usher Eusebio out when the ground is half empty and lo and behold, C5 went to a commercial break. I was looking forward to Eusebio ceremonially kicking the game off, with some of his goals on the big screens, something that would be shown across theTV station; instead, I wasn't even in my seat when it happened, the same as thousands of others.
As regards the music played before and after the game, it is basically on a par with "kick for the Carribean" that embarrassing half-time farce now happily consigned to the dustbin.

I have supported Everton for 50 years so my taste in pre- and half-time music is fairly eclectic and would rather have silence than listen to Cheryl Cole etc, but I would like to see a half time slot given to some local up and coming bands or singers, on the pitch with a write up in the program.

At least that would shut the annoying DJ up, who really needs to change his "Mighty Blues" intro to the team announcements.

Phil Bellis
8   Posted 01/04/2010 at 10:08:42

Report abuse

Bonnie Tyler — Bitter Blue: marvellous!
John Hughes
9   Posted 01/04/2010 at 10:14:39

Report abuse

Kevin Hudson:- best I can come up with is
1. Help!
2. Helter Skelter
3. Don't let me down (again).
Duncan McDine
10   Posted 01/04/2010 at 10:20:34

Report abuse

Larry, I was in my seat when he came out, and it was quite a special moment. Goodison is always half empty 2 mins before KO, so why would they televise the distinct lack of atmosphere before our home matches?

I'll admit it pisses me off when they cut to adverts just as Z-Cars starts up.
Larry Boner
11   Posted 01/04/2010 at 10:35:07

Report abuse

Unfortunately, only the people at Goodison would have seen that, and then only the ones who were in their seats .The game was televised across Europe, we could have set up something truly memorable with C5, or whoever televised it, but no...

If I remember correctly, the introduction took place well before the kick off, not 2 mins before, but maybe I am wrong.

I don't think we promote EFC as a brand at all... the fans do, when we have won a big game, maybe we should apply for the promotions contract at Everton, I'm sure we could do a better job?

Dave Roberts
12   Posted 01/04/2010 at 11:37:08

Report abuse

A little bit of Country wouldn't go amiss...'Blue Bayou',' Something Blue' anyone?

I go for the football. If I want to listen to music i'll put a record on.
Duncan McDine
13   Posted 01/04/2010 at 11:42:18

Report abuse

Yeah, it was well before kick off, and I think half the problem with people turning up late for the Europa matches was the restriction on booze being sold in the stadium.

It was most likely a cock up on behalf of Everton's media people (if they have any). I obviously didn't get to see what was broadcast on live tv, but you're right that we should've made a big deal out of it.
Duncan McDine
14   Posted 01/04/2010 at 11:48:15

Report abuse

On your gramophone Dave?!!!
David Hallwood
15   Posted 01/04/2010 at 11:53:43

Report abuse

Because we've got a church in the corner of the ground, how about Deacon Blues by Steely Dan?
Kevin Jones
16   Posted 01/04/2010 at 11:51:00

Report abuse

OK, pop-pickers, here's this weeks EFC top five:

5) 24/7, by Bill Kenwright
4) Substitute, by Carlo Nash
3) Working on the Chain Gang, by Tim Cahill's brother
2) Looking for a way out, by Stevie Pienaar.

And this week's Number One is:

1) We're almost there, by Davey Moyes.
Stephen Kenny
17   Posted 01/04/2010 at 12:04:45

Report abuse

I'm quite happy to stay as we are, playing old songs that relate directly to us. I like the way the fella who tells us the team calls us the Mighty Blues too.
Andy Morden
18   Posted 01/04/2010 at 12:07:16

Report abuse

Haha, 'The Streets of Kenny' by Shack would be splendid eh, song about heroin!

Joking aside, Probably would be good to try and play some of the 'local heroes' music at Goodison.
Andy Codling
19   Posted 01/04/2010 at 12:12:02

Report abuse

Who gives a shite, as long as we win!
Andy Callan
20   Posted 01/04/2010 at 12:34:18

Report abuse

Metallica, The Hives or Sum 41 would get the place rockin' - might even start a few fights to brighten the afternoon up too.

Why don't you write to Everton and see what they say - if they can be arsed gettin' back to you that is.....!!!
Andy Hegan
21   Posted 01/04/2010 at 12:48:52

Report abuse

Anything, as long as we don't make ourselves look smalltime by singing about the reds...

Oh, wait a minute, we do!

Phil Bellis
22   Posted 01/04/2010 at 12:58:35

Report abuse

Andy...the reds???
How cosy
Robert Workman
23   Posted 01/04/2010 at 12:59:10

Report abuse

Appropriate Beatles song — "Can't buy me love".

My favourite song about The Blues — "I guess that's why they call it the blues" (Elton John). He probably sang it to himself at Wembley in '84!

Tony J Williams
24   Posted 01/04/2010 at 13:16:18

Report abuse

The only music I am bothered about at half-time is the ping of the till when paying for the half-time pint.
Larry Boner
25   Posted 01/04/2010 at 13:21:46

Report abuse

Behind Blue Eyes - The Who
My Blue Heaven - Fats Domino
True Blue - Madonna
Sean McCarthy
26   Posted 01/04/2010 at 13:32:19

Report abuse

Anything by the biggest professional scouser ever (Pete Wylie) should be avoided like the plague!!! And that song Heart as big as Liverpool makes my stomach churn!!! I can't stand all this sentimentality towards the City of Liverpool. I couldn't care less what music is played pre-match.

And having seen Wylie recently, I feel its time he brought out an updated version and call it "An ARSE as big as Liverpool"!!

Derek Turnbull
27   Posted 01/04/2010 at 15:52:25

Report abuse

How about playing old songs we used to have versions of?

Cozy Powell na na na for example? Or the Green Green Grass of Home?
Andy Codling
28   Posted 01/04/2010 at 17:13:30

Report abuse

How about having semi-naked cheerleaders parade up and down with blue and white tassles attached to their nipples???
Andy Codling
29   Posted 01/04/2010 at 17:16:05

Report abuse

...and no-one will care what music is on!
Brian Waring
30   Posted 01/04/2010 at 17:35:03

Report abuse

"We are one step away from playing pig bag after each goal is scored" — Love it mate!
Dennis Stevens
31   Posted 01/04/2010 at 18:11:55

Report abuse

I only really want to hear Everton songs before & after the match, & they'd probably be better than the usual fare at half-time as well. Perhaps it'd be a little better if they invited requests from supporters - at least that way there's be at least one person present who would appreciate the tune being played!
Dave Roberts
32   Posted 01/04/2010 at 19:05:52

Report abuse

Yeah, I get bothered about the ping of the till for the half-time pint as well! Every time it goes off, I remember I could have paid my mortgage off years ago for the price of two pints!

Ah well, it pays the player's wages, I suppose...
Gareth Hughes
33   Posted 01/04/2010 at 21:04:50

Report abuse

I live in the city centre and was down at the Pier Head on Sunday after the their game. Red fans were everywhere, racing down the gangplank onto the Isle of Man ferry, Spanish whoppas with scarves on riding lambananas and the obligatory Paddy and Mick from Kilkenny with their shopping bags.

It's utterly repulsive and I just want to shake these people (by the throat) and tell them "IF IT WAS'NT FOR MY CLUB, YOU WOULDN'T BE HERE NOW, YOU SHALLOW GLORY HUNTING SHEEP!"

Sadly we were succesful at the wrong time and have also fallen victim to not carrying the name of the city as our own. A good start would be to get those liver birds onto the club crest.

Keith Glazzard
34   Posted 01/04/2010 at 23:16:50

Report abuse

Gareth — even the anti-Kirkby lobby couldn't call themselves 'Keep Everton in Liverpool' could they?

Robert W — I think 'That's Why They Call It The Blues' was the year before the 84 final.

Andy C — I suspect that your tassel twirling squad might have more success in the winter months, but I have no expertise in this field of choreography. Although I did apply once for the job.

The match-day presentation at GP is awful. Who gets paid for doing it? Do they know — or care — who we are? Have they ever asked the audience what they want or what we think of them?

And, entirely personally, Grand Old Team is a crap song, which might be excused if it was ours (Celtic?) and should fade away.

But in the spirit of the post, here goes:

Crystal Gayle — Don't it turn my brown eyes Blue
David Bowie — Sound and Vision ( - ...B B Electric B..)
Elvis Presley — Blue Suede Shoes


A song that always reminds me of being very young in the company of my lovely mother is, Beyond the Blue horizon
Waits a beautiful day
Goodbye to things that bore me
My life's waiting for me

I see a new horizon
My life has just begun
Beyond the blue horizon
Lies the rising sun.

A cut down version of Mike Nesmith's 70's version of that could easily become or 'bubbles'. Will they ever think that way? Doubt it.
Will Leaf
35   Posted 02/04/2010 at 07:54:42

Report abuse

I suggest "All You Need is Cash" by The Rutles.

Everyone knows The Beatles had mostly Blue inclinations... but who did Ron, Dirk, Stig and Barry support?
Lee Gorre
36   Posted 02/04/2010 at 09:43:44

Report abuse

A little bit of Shack, nice name you've got for that suggestion John!
David Holroyd
37   Posted 02/04/2010 at 10:33:00

Report abuse

Everton FC don't promote themselves very well. The way to do that is to play in EUROPE every year, too many people say they are not bothered about the Europa League but it does get you noticed.
Ant Sorvoja
38   Posted 02/04/2010 at 20:22:02

Report abuse

Can anyone remember that we used to get half-time tunes from none other than Liverpudlian genius songwriter extraordinaire Lee Mavers a.k.a. The La's. I think it was during Walter Smith tenure. I thought it was very fitting given the state we were in...

There she goes
There she goes again
Three points down the drain...
Timothy Laynge
39   Posted 02/04/2010 at 20:52:45

Report abuse

The Beatles - For You Blue 1970

Beautiful Tune for the genius that both Beatles and Everton are.

Add Your Comments

In order to post a comment to the MailBag, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site.

Log in now

Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and MailBag submissions across the site.



© ToffeeWeb