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It's only hours away now, but does anyone know what it will mean to us if the England bid is successful?
Liverpool are one of the chosen "Host Cities" but I originally thought this was dependant on the other lot building their new ground on Stanley Park? If their new owners decide against building a new stadium, as they've been suggesting, what does that mean for the City? Will Anfield by automatically chosen or will Goodison be back in with a shout? Will funding be available for redevolpment or a new stadium?
I know its unlikley that Anfield wouldn't be chosen, but if we have any chance then now's the time to begin redevelopment of Goodison in an attempt to win the bid and possibly secure additional funding.
Paul O'Hanlon, Posted 02/12/2010 at 11:59:40
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KPR Williams
2 Posted 02/12/2010 at 15:36:35
2 Posted 02/12/2010 at 15:36:35
Out in the 1st round...
KPR Williams
3 Posted 02/12/2010 at 15:39:50
3 Posted 02/12/2010 at 15:39:50
Ruskies.
Mike Rourke
4 Posted 02/12/2010 at 15:51:48
4 Posted 02/12/2010 at 15:51:48
Russia and Qatar.
Corruption of the highest order!
...how do I get a job at FIFA?
Corruption of the highest order!
...how do I get a job at FIFA?
Paul O'Hanlon
5 Posted 02/12/2010 at 15:55:15
5 Posted 02/12/2010 at 15:55:15
Well that was a waste of a thought! Not sure why I expected England to win, FIFA were never going to let us get away with highlighting their corruption.
KPR Williams
6 Posted 02/12/2010 at 16:02:44
6 Posted 02/12/2010 at 16:02:44
What can the FA spunk millions on now, then?
Lee Courtliff
7 Posted 02/12/2010 at 16:08:04
7 Posted 02/12/2010 at 16:08:04
What a joke. Fuckin' Russia and Qatar. Why couldn't it be us? I support Everton and England. I love Everton and England. Two teams who NEVER FUCKIN' WIN ANYTHING! Twenty years of this and just one FA Cup to show for it. Come on God, just a little help!
David Barks
8 Posted 02/12/2010 at 16:10:45
8 Posted 02/12/2010 at 16:10:45
Nevermind the 2018 bid going to Russian. The biggest scandal is the 2022 bid going to fucking Qatar. Oh I'm sure that will be very well attended. I'll enjoy watching all those Dutch and Swedish women in the stadiums.... oh wait, they won't be there without being covered in a blanket. What a joke.
Qatar wins the bid over the US... Hmmm, let me think, better sporting destination for the summer, the middle-eastern desert or sunny Los Angeles or Florida? Honestly, football is just a joke these days. The whole system is a corrupt joke.
Nick Entwistle
9 Posted 02/12/2010 at 16:20:11
9 Posted 02/12/2010 at 16:20:11
Couldn't give a dam we lost it. Anyone notice Beckham beginning to look like Old Man Steptoe?
Chris Keightley
10 Posted 02/12/2010 at 16:34:32
10 Posted 02/12/2010 at 16:34:32
Put your money into your local team, not Everton ? the one down the road with 5 men and a dog attending.
Football has officially gone mad and the enjoyment is no longer there for me, shocking!!
Darragh Farrell
11 Posted 02/12/2010 at 16:37:53
11 Posted 02/12/2010 at 16:37:53
In fairness, the Middle East has never hosted a major sports event, so it's time they were awarded one. And why shouldn't Russia host it? I am sure the British media will go to town with tales of corruption, but people need to get out of the Western-centred way of thinking.
Having said all that, it should have been Russia and Australia.
Having said all that, it should have been Russia and Australia.
Lee Courtliff
12 Posted 02/12/2010 at 16:56:30
12 Posted 02/12/2010 at 16:56:30
Why should Russia get it over anyone, Darragh? Just because they have not hosted one before? Neither have Portugal or Holland or Belgium. Why should Russia get it? Reasons please, pal.
John Brennan
13 Posted 02/12/2010 at 17:08:38
13 Posted 02/12/2010 at 17:08:38
Why don't we get our own back and fail to qualify for both sets of finals?
Dave Smith
14 Posted 02/12/2010 at 17:15:58
14 Posted 02/12/2010 at 17:15:58
Well, that's my faith in FIFA well and truly gone now. Before it was hanging by a thread, but know it's gone.
Sepp Blatter is a joke and he is ruining Football. To be honest I think am going to boycott the next World Cup. England arn't going to win anyway (although it would just be my luck that they actually do).
Sepp Blatter is a joke and he is ruining Football. To be honest I think am going to boycott the next World Cup. England arn't going to win anyway (although it would just be my luck that they actually do).
Larry Boner
15 Posted 02/12/2010 at 17:21:43
15 Posted 02/12/2010 at 17:21:43
I have just found out that "our" bid cost nearly £500m. Now I presume, with the Tories totally destroying the education and industrial base of this country that the money cannot possibly have come from the tax payer, so who funded the bid?
Beckham, the Royal Family, Cheryl Cole, Simon Cowell ? who?
Tony J Williams
16 Posted 02/12/2010 at 17:29:03
16 Posted 02/12/2010 at 17:29:03
Dave, what faith? Septic Bladder and Platini are two of the most corrupt and lets faceit daft people there are .....allegedly
Dave Smith
17 Posted 02/12/2010 at 17:29:43
17 Posted 02/12/2010 at 17:29:43
Larry - "I have just found out that "our" bid cost nearly £500m."
Well that takes the piss. What could have cost that much? Please tell my we didn't have to actually pay Beckham to back our bid and lobby on our behalf?
Well that takes the piss. What could have cost that much? Please tell my we didn't have to actually pay Beckham to back our bid and lobby on our behalf?
Gavin Ramejkis
18 Posted 02/12/2010 at 17:32:38
18 Posted 02/12/2010 at 17:32:38
Fuck em, Cockney World Cup; like the olympics, southern shite lined up to make a killing off everyone else's tax, Russia was in the bag when Hibbert aka Putin didn't even turn up for the vote run in.
The country is deep in the shit with plenty of people who could have done with that £500m spunking on jobs rather than a daydream for the three clowns; Cameron (no clue whatsoever what it is to be a grass roots fan), Beckham (doesn't even live here anymore) and Prince whatever his name is (yeah Charlie's kid not Ding Dong's)
The country is deep in the shit with plenty of people who could have done with that £500m spunking on jobs rather than a daydream for the three clowns; Cameron (no clue whatsoever what it is to be a grass roots fan), Beckham (doesn't even live here anymore) and Prince whatever his name is (yeah Charlie's kid not Ding Dong's)
Colin Potter
19 Posted 02/12/2010 at 17:42:20
19 Posted 02/12/2010 at 17:42:20
Russia has never held the World Cup before, So why not?
Karl Masters
20 Posted 02/12/2010 at 18:21:36
20 Posted 02/12/2010 at 18:21:36
Some fans will simply disappear in Russia. Outside Moscow, it's extremely dangerous and moscow isn't that safe. Looking at the mess Ukraine are making of Euro 2012, don't count on it being well run either.
Having said all that, I can't say that I am too sorry that a bid that used places like Milton Keynes ( fake club ) and Anfield to stage games has failed.
Fifa can keep the world cup. International football is becoming a backwater anyway. What a crap tournament we had to suffer this year.
Having said all that, I can't say that I am too sorry that a bid that used places like Milton Keynes ( fake club ) and Anfield to stage games has failed.
Fifa can keep the world cup. International football is becoming a backwater anyway. What a crap tournament we had to suffer this year.
Guy Hastings
21 Posted 02/12/2010 at 18:35:43
21 Posted 02/12/2010 at 18:35:43
For all your Old Traffords, Emirates, White Hart Lanes, Stamford Bridges, Eastlands etc, Goodison Park remains the only British club ground to host a World Cup semi-final and I can't see that changing in my lifetime.
Andy Hegan
22 Posted 02/12/2010 at 18:49:38
22 Posted 02/12/2010 at 18:49:38
Cant see any benefits for Everton, so couldnt care less.
Andrew Gilbert
23 Posted 02/12/2010 at 18:41:42
23 Posted 02/12/2010 at 18:41:42
Russia hasn't won the bid...Organized crime has.
Qatar also haven't won, that was won by Slavery, Sharia law and a ruling monarchy with little regard for human rights.
If FIFA delegates think that's the end of English press interference in their affairs, corruption then they are mistaken.
I don't really give a toss about international football not since the game changed beyond recognition with the introduction of players that wear snoods!
I was hoping Holland and Belgium had got the cup as we could have at least seen a few good fights!
It's good to see families at games but I preferred to see competitions that teams like Derby, Villa and Everton could win. Sky's money has destroyed the validity of the sport.
I would even go back to being cattle herded to shed like stadiums to watch players who only earned 10 times the average and not 150 times.
Qatar also haven't won, that was won by Slavery, Sharia law and a ruling monarchy with little regard for human rights.
If FIFA delegates think that's the end of English press interference in their affairs, corruption then they are mistaken.
I don't really give a toss about international football not since the game changed beyond recognition with the introduction of players that wear snoods!
I was hoping Holland and Belgium had got the cup as we could have at least seen a few good fights!
It's good to see families at games but I preferred to see competitions that teams like Derby, Villa and Everton could win. Sky's money has destroyed the validity of the sport.
I would even go back to being cattle herded to shed like stadiums to watch players who only earned 10 times the average and not 150 times.
Karl Jones
24 Posted 02/12/2010 at 19:13:22
24 Posted 02/12/2010 at 19:13:22
Absolutely made-up that we haven't been chosen...All sorts of local taxpayer funding and world grants would be used to the inevitable benefit of LFC with a ready made excuse...As usual, we would end up with sweet FA. and fall even further behind.
Jimmy Hacking
25 Posted 02/12/2010 at 19:29:16
25 Posted 02/12/2010 at 19:29:16
Karl you raise a good point; I am gutted we didnt win, but would have been seething if we HAD won and then Liverpool found themselves playing in a brand new 60,000 seater stadium given to them for free, just like Man City (well its not quite 60k but you get my drift)
Christopher McCullough
26 Posted 02/12/2010 at 19:31:24
26 Posted 02/12/2010 at 19:31:24
Brilliant. In the midst of the deepest and widest local economic recession since the 1930's and a global ecological crisis ( the repercussions of which will soon be unpreventable) those bastards in Westminster spunk hundreds of millions of our pounds on this absolute bollocks. Meanwhile, there was never a chance of a) Goodison Park being used as venue b) Everton getting a better stadium.
Fantastic.
Fantastic.
Thomas James
27 Posted 02/12/2010 at 19:36:43
27 Posted 02/12/2010 at 19:36:43
Well said Andrew Gilbert #22
For what is it worth I think Russia should do a good job and I am glad that Spain - Portugal didn't win. Euro Champs, World Champs and then the WC...next they'll be banging on about having the best domestic leagues!!
For what is it worth I think Russia should do a good job and I am glad that Spain - Portugal didn't win. Euro Champs, World Champs and then the WC...next they'll be banging on about having the best domestic leagues!!
Tony Gee
28 Posted 02/12/2010 at 19:45:16
28 Posted 02/12/2010 at 19:45:16
Larry - "I have just found out that "our" bid cost nearly £500m."
Absolute bollocks.. !!
£15million was spent in order to gain the world cup which would have generated £3.3 billion to the U .K economy.
As a Welsh Blue, I can honestly say I couldn't give a flying fuck about International football, as there's nothing worse than going to the boozer seeing loads of dick head lads in England tops pretending to care, whilst their fat arsed birds cry and scream at the screen when it all goes Pete Tong.
Fuck England, Wales Russia and all that shite...
Nil Satis nisi optimum
Moyes out.
Absolute bollocks.. !!
£15million was spent in order to gain the world cup which would have generated £3.3 billion to the U .K economy.
As a Welsh Blue, I can honestly say I couldn't give a flying fuck about International football, as there's nothing worse than going to the boozer seeing loads of dick head lads in England tops pretending to care, whilst their fat arsed birds cry and scream at the screen when it all goes Pete Tong.
Fuck England, Wales Russia and all that shite...
Nil Satis nisi optimum
Moyes out.
Simon Jenkins
29 Posted 02/12/2010 at 20:00:53
29 Posted 02/12/2010 at 20:00:53
#6 KPR Williams: "What can the FA spunk millions on now, then?"
Sacking Capello and appointing Harry Redknapp, probably.
Sacking Capello and appointing Harry Redknapp, probably.
Dave Charles
30 Posted 02/12/2010 at 19:45:59
30 Posted 02/12/2010 at 19:45:59
Good point Andrew Gilbert (22).
I wonder if Sharia law will be relaxed so ordinary fans can enjoy alcoholic drinks. A major source of income to FIFA from advertising.
As for the next World Cup in England, if I'm still alive that is.
I wonder if Sharia law will be relaxed so ordinary fans can enjoy alcoholic drinks. A major source of income to FIFA from advertising.
As for the next World Cup in England, if I'm still alive that is.
Christopher McCullough
31 Posted 02/12/2010 at 19:53:04
31 Posted 02/12/2010 at 19:53:04
Tony Gee- both of your statisitcs come as a relief to me. £500 million really angered me.
I can't find any info on the internet which details the actual financing of the bid.
I can't find any info on the internet which details the actual financing of the bid.
Eugene Ruane
32 Posted 02/12/2010 at 19:34:31
32 Posted 02/12/2010 at 19:34:31
Couldn't give a flying shite, football has basically become a putrid, stagnant cesspool.
Fifa, Uefa, The PL, the 'Champions' League - all of it fucking reeks.
The game today is about fiddling, cheating, greedy agents and greedy shithouse players.
Due to force of habit (or something that involves no rational thought) I can't leave Everton alone, but even we're run by people PROVEN morally bankrupt.
So Russia, Qatar, Jibrovia, Timbucthree, Ingurlund?
Same difference.
Do I think Russia and Qatar are corrupt and bent?
Absolutely, but so what - just about all our elected representatives were recently collared for fiddling the fuck out of us FOR YEARS.
Then when they were caught, they pleaded ignorance!
I'll take the Russians, at least there seems a sort of honesty..about their dishonesty
(and by the way, the fact that our last major crowd problem at a match was...er last night, couldn't have impressed too many).
Fifa, Uefa, The PL, the 'Champions' League - all of it fucking reeks.
The game today is about fiddling, cheating, greedy agents and greedy shithouse players.
Due to force of habit (or something that involves no rational thought) I can't leave Everton alone, but even we're run by people PROVEN morally bankrupt.
So Russia, Qatar, Jibrovia, Timbucthree, Ingurlund?
Same difference.
Do I think Russia and Qatar are corrupt and bent?
Absolutely, but so what - just about all our elected representatives were recently collared for fiddling the fuck out of us FOR YEARS.
Then when they were caught, they pleaded ignorance!
I'll take the Russians, at least there seems a sort of honesty..about their dishonesty
(and by the way, the fact that our last major crowd problem at a match was...er last night, couldn't have impressed too many).
Dave Charles
33 Posted 02/12/2010 at 20:15:37
33 Posted 02/12/2010 at 20:15:37
I meant 23 not 22. Re- Andrew Gilbert
Christopher McCullough
34 Posted 02/12/2010 at 20:15:45
34 Posted 02/12/2010 at 20:15:45
Honestly, the Internet is great until you want some concrete facts. It seems that the UK would have gained around £3billion from tourism etc (The Independent), £1 billion would have landed in London (Boris Johnson) but no detailed outlay of the cost...
Larry Boner
35 Posted 02/12/2010 at 20:59:38
35 Posted 02/12/2010 at 20:59:38
Thanks for that, Tony Gee ? I thought I was going nuts, heard this on TalkSport today, must be a mistake, unless they have factored in the cost of Wembley, which was central to the bid?
Christopher McCullough
36 Posted 02/12/2010 at 21:05:05
36 Posted 02/12/2010 at 21:05:05
A source for the £15 million figure would be appreciated.
John Daley
37 Posted 02/12/2010 at 21:18:33
37 Posted 02/12/2010 at 21:18:33
It was obvious Russia would get it. FIFA have form for such decisions. It's never about who could stage the best tournament. It's all about the image Fifa like to portray. Blatter likes to think he strides the globe like a colossus, breaking new ground and entering uncharted territory. The guy believes himself to be a visionary: first World Cup in a unified Germany, first World Cup in Africa, first World Cup in Eastern Europe. It all contributes to him and his cronies being able to give themselves a self-congratulatory pat on the back when they talk about their footballing 'legacy'.
Tony Gee
38 Posted 02/12/2010 at 22:00:57
38 Posted 02/12/2010 at 22:00:57
Christopher McCullough; Larry Boner
Geoff Randall interview this evening.... Sky News: £15 million confirmed...
Geoff Randall interview this evening.... Sky News: £15 million confirmed...
Christopher McCullough
39 Posted 02/12/2010 at 22:05:08
39 Posted 02/12/2010 at 22:05:08
That's not the kind of source I would describe as reliable but thanks for coming back to me, mate. I've lost faith in freedom of information on the internet.
I hope you're right. Cheers.
I hope you're right. Cheers.
Dean Adams
40 Posted 02/12/2010 at 22:25:52
40 Posted 02/12/2010 at 22:25:52
The bid would have begun a lot earlier than May of this year with the planning and organising that would have been going on for several years, making that another looney left-wing labour fuck-up which Brown and his clowns managed to great effect.
When you learn to look in the right direction, maybe some posters will realise that the club is not as bad as made out on this site!!!
Christopher McCullough
41 Posted 02/12/2010 at 22:42:35
41 Posted 02/12/2010 at 22:42:35
Brown ? "left wing"... lol!
Karl Masters
42 Posted 02/12/2010 at 23:04:46
42 Posted 02/12/2010 at 23:04:46
Fifa are bent and run by a man who hates England with a passion. Why is anybody surprised?
International football is run by greedy wankers and mainly played by greedy wankers.
And that last World Cup was shit. Played in a footballing backwater and half the players couldn't be arsed as they have so much money anyway and that's all they are worried about. International football is best ignored in the main.
Cynical? Too bloody right I am!
International football is run by greedy wankers and mainly played by greedy wankers.
And that last World Cup was shit. Played in a footballing backwater and half the players couldn't be arsed as they have so much money anyway and that's all they are worried about. International football is best ignored in the main.
Cynical? Too bloody right I am!
Christine Foster
43 Posted 02/12/2010 at 23:16:14
43 Posted 02/12/2010 at 23:16:14
Sadly, the decisions made today will make the Bristish press even more vindictive in terms of chasing down what is a corrupt process. It reminds me of the Eurovision Song Contest were agreements are made on tactial voting. That's being kind.
To say that Russia had the best bid or indeed that Qatar is a football Mecca is an absolute joke. It's disgraceful that only two votes were cast in England's favour. It's time that honesty and integrity were introduced and that each bidder is ranked and given points on a number of areas regarding their bid. Let's see who and what and why.
It's incredible... such a bad joke.
To say that Russia had the best bid or indeed that Qatar is a football Mecca is an absolute joke. It's disgraceful that only two votes were cast in England's favour. It's time that honesty and integrity were introduced and that each bidder is ranked and given points on a number of areas regarding their bid. Let's see who and what and why.
It's incredible... such a bad joke.
Craig Tomasinski
44 Posted 02/12/2010 at 23:32:12
44 Posted 02/12/2010 at 23:32:12
Although it can be good for the game to take the World Cup to a different region every now and then they have gone a bit far this time. How in the hell can Qatar get the world cup and only have a population of 1.5 million. That's half the size of Melbourne. That has got to be the biggest joke of all time. I am very surprised that the USA did not get that one as they tend to win these things when they go for them with their corporate clout.
Jamie Crowley
45 Posted 03/12/2010 at 00:20:18
45 Posted 03/12/2010 at 00:20:18
Who cares... Dec 21, 2012 everything's going dark anyway.
I trust the Mayans more than FIFA.
I trust the Mayans more than FIFA.
John Ford
46 Posted 03/12/2010 at 01:24:28
46 Posted 03/12/2010 at 01:24:28
Can you imagine had we 'won' just how the media would have gushed and regurgitated endlessly month after month after month covering every angle, story, non-story, quasi-story and anything vaguely related to the World Cup.
It would have been an endless stream of complete media bulshit and soul-destroying banalities. Just how much Hansen, Shearer and god knows who else could we have put up with... Russia is just fine wih me.
It would have been an endless stream of complete media bulshit and soul-destroying banalities. Just how much Hansen, Shearer and god knows who else could we have put up with... Russia is just fine wih me.
Eric Myles
47 Posted 03/12/2010 at 01:39:20
47 Posted 03/12/2010 at 01:39:20
They couldn't have chosen America or a European country because they're all bankrupt, they would never have been able to fund it.
KPR Williams
48 Posted 03/12/2010 at 08:44:24
48 Posted 03/12/2010 at 08:44:24
What's the Russian version of a vuvuzela?
An AK47?
An AK47?
Brian Waring
49 Posted 03/12/2010 at 12:29:49
49 Posted 03/12/2010 at 12:29:49
Typical reactions, from a nation who think we have a god given right to everything.
At the end of the day, Russia were the favourites from the off, and guess what? The favourites won.
At the end of the day, Russia were the favourites from the off, and guess what? The favourites won.
Norman Merrill
50 Posted 03/12/2010 at 12:43:02
50 Posted 03/12/2010 at 12:43:02
The previous time we held the finals here for whatever reason given, we the home nation never moved from Wembley. I bought tickets for all matches to be played at Goodison Park, and was told at the time that Goodison would be a venue for one of the semi's along with Wembley. We were led to believe that if England progressed, they would be in the semi at Goodison.
For reasons better known to the authorities, we got the Russia v West Germany game instead. That did not bother me too much at the time as to be able to watch a World Cup semi-final in your own city was brilliant.
So maybe Fifa have that on record...
Leon Perrin
51 Posted 03/12/2010 at 16:56:28
51 Posted 03/12/2010 at 16:56:28
If the shite on show at South Africa is what the world cup's come to who gives a hairy arsed wank?
Incidently, those who joined the media "hard on" because of Becks, Wills and Camo you need to get out more, these are the same pricks who say Moyes is a great manager en route to ManU.
Incidently, those who joined the media "hard on" because of Becks, Wills and Camo you need to get out more, these are the same pricks who say Moyes is a great manager en route to ManU.
Dave Lynch
52 Posted 03/12/2010 at 21:26:43
52 Posted 03/12/2010 at 21:26:43
In a perverse way, I'm glad we didn't get it. All those self-serving twats in Anfield waiting for the result as theirs would have been a group stage ground. It would have been the perfect excuse for the council to throw a load of cash at the red bastards for a new ground, stating that the city needs one for the World Cup.
Meanwhile, fuck Everton.
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1 Posted 02/12/2010 at 15:20:50
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9247651.stm