Another game, another goal for Nikica Jelavic. A quick scan on his Wikipedia page makes it 15 goals in just 23 appearances. His incredible impact since his deadline day arrival has surpassed all of our expectations and has led me to question if he is indeed the best striker to wear the royal blue in the Premier League era?

I attended my first game in August 1992 but began following Everton during the 1988-89 campaign. In the years since, we have seen some tremendous strikers in the top flight. The likes of Shearer, Les Ferdinand, Wright, Henry, Fowler, Zola, Bergkamp, Van Nistelrooy, Drogba, Cantona and Owen have all terrorised opposition defences and no doubt broken Evertonian hearts at some stage.

In the years I’ve spent watching the blues, I don’t think we have had anyone with either the necessary talent, temperament or have been with us at the right stage of their career to be talked about in the same breath as esteemed band of players listed above. We have had several very good forwards in that time.

Wayne Rooney – The obvious exception. An academy product and the most natural talent the club has produced in a generation, he burst on the scene as a teenager, announcing himself with a stunning winner against Arsenal and broke into the England team before eventually lighting up Euro 2004. Unfortunately, his time with us was a mixed bag consisting of moments of genius twinned with spells of inconsistency which you would expect from someone of such tender years. Rightly or wrongly, Moyes chose to protect him using him sparingly and occasionally out wide meaning we saw only occasional glimpses of his rare attacking talent prior to his move to Man Utd.

Peter Beardsley – Probably the best forward player I have seen at Everton. A wonderfully gifted footballer, he was sold prematurely as his excellent partnership with Andy Cole at Newcastle proved. I also seem to remember him being deployed as a midfielder quite often which may have restricted his goal tally during his spell with us.

Greame Sharp – Evertons leading post war marksman and vital member of the squad during the trophy laden spell in the mid-eighties. Older Evertonians will surely have much fonder memories of him. I was very young when he was with us but I seem to remember a hard-working centre forward with aerial prowess and good technique. He was sold to Oldham shortly after I began following the blues.

Tony Cottee – A British record transfer fee was paid for this diminutive striker. A natural out-and-out goal scorer he was my first Everton hero. He seemed to blow hot and cold and when the goals dried up his all round contribution wasn’t always enough to keep his place in the team.

Duncan Ferguson – An Everton legend. He was a talisman at a time when we had very little to shout about. On his day he was unstoppable but he did not play or score enough partly due to suspensions but mainly due to injuries. It could be argued that he had a suspect temperament.

Paul Rideout – A neat and tidy centre forward will always have a special place in Everton hearts for his winner in the 95 cup final. He never really got enough goals to be considered as an elite striker.

Kevin Campbell – ‘Super Kev’ kept us in the Premier League with his goals in 99 and formed an effective partnership with the promising Jeffers. The powerful striker toiled at the spearhead of a really poor Everton side towards the end of the Smith era. The goals began to dry up once he hit the wrong side of 30.

Yakubu – £11m looked like money well spent until he ruptured an Achilles. A terrific finisher, he struggled to rediscover his fine first season form.

Louis Saha – Another player who on his day could be unplayable yet struggled for fitness. His work-rate was also called into question at times.

There have been numerous other forwards during my time and some did well, others were simply not good enough. AJ, McFadden, Radzinski, Beattie, Newell, Johnston, Amokachi, Hughes, Jo, Stracqualursi, Beckford and Bent. Bright young things Jeffers, Chadwick, Barlow, Branch, Vaughan and Cadamarteri. US imports Moore and McBride. The enigmatic Frenchman Madar. Ones I’d like to forget, Angell and Bakayoko. Compare these with some of the strikers at other clubs during the Premier League era. The likes of Cole, Yorke, Anelka, Le Tissier and even Kevin Phillips.

I guess my point is that we are a club that have a tradition for having top class centre forwards. The number nine shirt was at one point synonymous with Everton yet my brief and admittedly, not very well researched trip down memory lane suggests that during the last 25 years we have lacked the firepower enjoyed by many of our peers.

Could it be that finally we have a forward that can keep alive the tradition of great Number Nines? Someone who can be spoken of in the same breath as the likes of Dean, Lawton, Hickson, Vernon, Young, Royle, Latchford and Gray?

A first look at Jelavic and he appears to be nothing out of the ordinary. He not blessed with blistering pace nor is he likely to dribble around 3 defenders and bend a curling shot into the top corner.

On closer inspection, Jelavic is a very rounded footballer with few, if any weaknesses. Firstly he looks a natural athlete and has enough acceleration to cause defenders headaches. Physically he’s a brute with thick-set arms and legs giving him the required body strength to bully centre backs. His technique is also very impressive with a first touch and close control that is rare in a forward with his build. Mentally he seems very strong. If he misses a chance he does not let his head drop which suggests he has bags of self belief.

Finally, I know everyone has been impressed with his remarkable ability to score with one touch. How can a team set themselves up to prevent that? You would literally have to stop him having a kick to prevent him scoring. For me this is what sets him apart.

I really hope that over the next 5 years he becomes a Premier League scoring legend while at Everton. In my heart I’d like to believe we can hang on to him but if he carries on in his current form then it will not go unnoticed and offers will surely come. I would give him the number nine shirt, give him the captaincy, break the wage structure. Do whatever we can to keep him.

My head tells me that an offer in excess of £20m would see him leave as we are not in a position to turn down that sort of money. If that does happen, it has to be a priority that we bring in a genuine top class forward. They don’t come cheap, they often come with baggage but they could be the difference between us being mid-table or genuine Champions League place contenders.

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Pete Anthony
1 Posted 09/10/2012 at 15:30:39
With Jela and the rest fit, what a chance we have this season to gatecrash the CL gravy train and keep em all and go onwards and upwards.

Get back, get back, get back to where we once belonged..

Nicholas Randall
2 Posted 09/10/2012 at 16:09:56
In my opinion Daniel Amokachi was better than Paul Rideout. I remember my Dad used to tell me Rideout missed too many chances, (this was in about 1994 before his FA Cup winner in 1995).
They were different types of players and I think that Amokachi was not made the best use of. Amokachi was a classy player but his best position was behind the front two like Peter Beardsley or Tim Cahill but Joe Royle would not use him there. I think Mike Walker may have used him there and he may have done better under Walker.
Matt Traynor
3 Posted 09/10/2012 at 16:32:47
I also think it's important to consider who's lining up the bullets for him to fire. When we signed him, we also brought Pienaar back to play on the left, and have since added Mirallas.

I noticed on his debut for us v Leyton Orient in the league cup that Mirallas likes to have a shot at goal - nothing wrong with that. I have noticed since in the games against Newcastle and Wigan that Jelavic has at times berated Mirallas when he's taken a shot or held on to the ball too long when Jelavic was in space.

That raises 2 things - how they link together, and it's still early days, but I can foresee a situation where someone has to have a word with Mirallas to think about his partner more and how he links, but more importantly, it's how Jelavic makes space for himself. Every defender knows he's a threat, yet he's still able to get the space. That and his penchant for first-time finishes is why he's so deadly.

The fact you feel we have to consider his sale when he's not even been here 12 months is a sad indictment of where we are as a club, and have been during Moyes tenure. Every time we think we're making progress someone or something pulls the rug from under our feet.

Stephen Kenny
4 Posted 09/10/2012 at 16:50:32
Yakubu at his best was as good as Jelavic.

Jelavic is well capable of scoring 20+ goals for the next four or five years, which puts him up there with all but the very, very best.

Sam Hoare
5 Posted 09/10/2012 at 18:04:55
I've been watching since mid 90's and he's the best striker i've seen in royal blue. So far at least but I guess its still relatively early days.
Paul Ferry
6 Posted 09/10/2012 at 18:13:19
Erm David: Dean, Lawton, Hickson, Vernon, Young, Royle, Latchford and Gray? Erm, Gray? Not fit to lace the boots of any one of those other EFC legends.

How about: Dean, Lawton, Hickson, Vernon, Young, Royle, Latchford and Sharp. There, that's better.

Kase Chow
7 Posted 09/10/2012 at 18:36:47
Yakubu was sensational for us before his injury. For some reason many Evertonians gloss over him now. But he really was the real deal at his best.

Jelavic seems class. If he is, he'll be off very soon :-(

Edmund Caso
8 Posted 09/10/2012 at 18:33:29
He's a blue Klinsman, does his bit outside the box but has that demented score at all costs hunger only the greats have.

He's the real deal good enough to play in any of the top european teams - which is a worry!

Derek Williams
9 Posted 09/10/2012 at 19:10:24
SImple plan. Keep them all in january. Add the Belgian midfielder we thought we had already got in the last tranny window. Finish top four. Qualify for Champions League in 2013. Earn £20m as a consequence. Buy more Belgians and Croatians. Finish third, qualify for CL ad nauseam for the next five years. Meanwhile the RS stagnate, Stevie G laa retires, the racist moves on to pastures new. Blue Bill hands over the reins to a rich benefactor.
Ooh what a lovely dream, I just woke up.
James Martin
10 Posted 09/10/2012 at 19:18:38
In his prime (sadly shortlived) Yakubu was a good player for us and certainly had different strengths to Jelavic. He was quicker and could score more audacious goals through dribbling or hitting them from distance. What he lacked however was Jelavic's presence, Jelavic's name on the team sheet, his presence on the last shoulder of a defender scares teams and inspires his own players, something Yakubu never really seemed to do. Yakubu could float in and out of the game without offering much before scoring whereas Jelavic always seems to be on the shoulder of the last man ready to pounce on a through ball. Jelavic's aerial ability is also far superior to the Yaks who could score headers but only if they were in the middle of the goal 5 yards out. Jelavic is the best I've seen in my lifetime at Everton and is the envy of lots of teams in the prem not least the RS.

On a different note I think the contribution to the Everton cause of Marcus Bent has been cruelly overlooked. At the time with Rooney gone and money perilously tight he was exactly what we needed and played the lone striker role with distinction. Ability wise he was obviously no Jelavic (although his service was much poorer) but nore does he deserve to be categorised alongside Jo. Not good enough for this current Everton team no but ws certainly what we needed in 2004. Even at times before January last season Marcus Bent seemed a better prospect than Saha Anichebe or McFadden.

Ian Bennett
11 Posted 09/10/2012 at 19:39:49
Beardsley was a class above anyone else in the side, and probably one of my favourite players over the past 25 years. I don't think it was question of us wanting to sell, we just couldn't afford not to at the time, or block his chance of rejoining Newcastle.

Yakubu and Saha were classy as well, but lacked a work ethic / injuries that dimmed their true worth. Kev Campbell was great for us as well, and another of the players I have berated when we signed, but was well and truly put in my place (I have loads of them).

Jelavic is a fine player. He has a great eye for goal with any part of his body, and has the ability to play others in, that yak or Saha didn't have.

Rideout is the interesting one. He was massively hyped as a kid, but never lived up to it. He lacked pace which reminds me of a match when he was being berated by a female fan for lack of speed. The female fan taughting him that he was quicker on her mate the previous weekend rather than the football pitch. His face was a picture. Scouse humour, like a rapier.

Ian Hollingworth
12 Posted 09/10/2012 at 20:18:10
Keep it quiet now but Jelavic is a very special striker the likes of which we have not seen in a Royal Blue jersey for some time. He will score a lot of goals for us and unfortunately probably a lot for another club who will pay a lot of money for him.
Watch him carefully and enjoy him whilst he is ours, hopefully for a few more seasons at least.
Amit Vithlani
13 Posted 09/10/2012 at 20:37:41
Why aren't Brett Angel or Stuart Barlow on this list? Ignoring Radzinski is also criminal.

Sharpy was the best all round striker I ever saw, Beardo the most creative and Lineker the most prolific.

Rideout was the most under-rated. He had a good touch, and was decent in the air, and when Joe Royle had Limpar supplying the bullets, he got 15 goals for us. He formed a good partnership with Graeme Stuart, a striker who has a special place in my heart for the winner v Wimbledon in 1994.

Jelavic is a terrific player but he is playing in a very good team during an era favouring strikers (Defenders can no longer kick lumps out of them). Comparisons therefore are tricky.

Andy Crooks
14 Posted 09/10/2012 at 20:44:55
David, Jelavic will have a lot to do to be better than Gary Lineker.
Kris Hall
15 Posted 09/10/2012 at 20:49:44
Interesting discussion, though sense a few of you might just be surfing the crest of a wave. Sure, Jelavic has a good return, but boy has he missed a few chances along the way.

And I'm surprised no one has pulled him up for his - at times, quite honestly, frustrating - tendency to fall to the floor like a sack of spuds.

He leads the line well, in a confident side playing attractive footy. But if someone came in with, as mentioned in this forum, 20 million, Everton would be foolish not to sell him!
Ian Bennett
16 Posted 09/10/2012 at 21:23:51
Kris - seriously. He has scored 45 goals in 68 game despite moving to Britain, and moving up the quality ladder despite injury concerns.

He has missed some chances, but he is no jigsaw. It would be plain crazy to sell that pedigree.

Ste Traverse
17 Posted 09/10/2012 at 21:38:42
Gary Lineker was easily the best goalscorer I've ever seen in a Blue shirt. Not the best all round forward we've had but definitley the most prolific.

Jelavic will do well to get in that class, but were do you get players as good as him for £5m thesedays?

Danny Broderick
18 Posted 09/10/2012 at 22:32:53
As much as Jelavic has done great for us, let's get real. He hasn't even played a calendar year yet. If he can score 20 goals a season for 2 or 3 years,the hype will be worth it. Not yet though.
Lineker scored goals all over the world at every level for 15 years. Cottee scored 99 goals for us alone. Yakubu scored 20+ goals for Pompey,Boro and then us,before banging in a load for a Blackburn team that got relegated. Jelavic might be able to match this lot,but we won't know until he's done it consistently for 2 or 3 years.
David Hallwood
19 Posted 09/10/2012 at 22:37:30
Beardsley was 10-15 years ahead of his time, and I recall that Kendall stated that he was neither midfield or forward. and IMHO he would have flourished in the looser systems that most teams employ today.

Once again IMHO Jelevic is one of the best strikers we've had, because he allies his eye for a goal with terrific movement wich in turn creates the holes for the team to exploit and fits Moyes' gameplan to a tee.

To play the pub game which player would you swap, Rooney & Tevez apart, I wouldn't swap Jelevic for anyone in the EPL(and that includes RVP & Torres) mainly for what he brings to the team as a whole.

Andy Crooks
20 Posted 09/10/2012 at 23:27:40
David, I agree. What Jelavic does, as did Lineker, is make it look easy. He really looks something special.
Barry Stevens
21 Posted 09/10/2012 at 23:18:13
The shouts for Bent and Radzinski are both justified. Cottee was a goalscorer who we let go to early. People always mention the Wimbledon pen, but am I right in thinking he never took one for us again after missing in the FA Cup vs Chelsea that same season?

In my opinion, it would be Beardsley with Linerker and Big Kev behind him. As for Jelavic, he could end up being classed in the same catogary in time but not just yet. Could imagine a thread like this in the 90s for Mike Newell,who started like a house on fire.
Ste Traverse
22 Posted 09/10/2012 at 23:43:30
That penalty miss by Cottee at Chelsea, Barry, was in 1992, two years before that infamous Wimbledon game.

Incidentally, given Cottee's mixed record from 12 yards, to this day I don't know why Peter Beardsley never took that late spot kick to keep us in the FA Cup at Stamford Bridge that year.

Jarrod Prosser
23 Posted 09/10/2012 at 23:45:53
It COULD be argued that Duncan Ferguson had a suspect temperament?

Just like it COULD be argued that James Brown is the Godfather of soul?

Jason Lam
24 Posted 10/10/2012 at 04:32:18
Jelavic is a very very good striker. He's a clever striker, the way he took his goal against Wigan was to simply place it where the goalie has already committed, just under his arm. He doesn't smash and hope like Defoe. If our engine is running well then Jela at the end of our moves will maximize his and our effectiveness. I feel the Yak was equal if not better striker. He used to make taking goals look so easy, a side foot pass here and little nod there, just where the goalie is off balanced and can't react to block. Between the two, I feel the Yak got us goals out of nothing situations because of his individual skills. Plus the Yak has this big arse where he could bounce defenders from or to the ground even, and swivel around them. Jela needs to wait for support and is truly a one trick pony - score goals. Having seen any through balls played by Jela, one-twos, dribble and crossing.
Jason Lam
25 Posted 10/10/2012 at 04:40:11
Make that 'haven't'
Ciarán McGlone
26 Posted 10/10/2012 at 08:24:10
The Yak was the same player... one or two touches and it's in the net.

He hasn't outscored the Yak over a season yet. However, 11 in 12 is some record.

Trevor Thompson
27 Posted 10/10/2012 at 08:22:25
James Martin, 823, I remember when we signed Marcus Bent; I wasn't happy about it but he proved to be a cracking player for us and worked his socks off. He was never in the class of Jelavic but he played the lone role brilliantly and I can't remember too many times when I thought he shouldn't be playing. He was much better than some of our 'big' name signings (Beattie in particular).

Some of our other strikers weren't utilized properly. I always thought AJ needed someone like a Beardsley type player to put him through on goal but he was often used out wide. Beckford never got a few seasons to prove himself and adjust to the Prem, although he did miss a lot (a bit like Andy Cole).

I can see Jelavic with us for at least three or four more seasons unless someone comes up with a ridiculous amount of money for him.

Antony Matthews
28 Posted 10/10/2012 at 09:22:24
Why do main strikers never wear the no9 shirt? Surely a main striker should be told to wear it and be proud of wearing it ie Big Dunc. Its not as though they have to wear no13 !
Richard Parker
29 Posted 10/10/2012 at 09:26:49
It's very early days, but Jela is class and has the potential to be a huge player for us. If he carries on doing this for another 3 or 4 years, then we can maybe talk about him in the same breath as Lineker and Sharp (I know Lineker only did it for one season but, fuck me, what a season).

He does what Yak did - there's no lightning pace, no crazy skills, he just makes scoring look effortless. Yakubu was the only striker that came anywhere near the heady heights of the top Everton number 9s. He could have been a legend for us - anyone who has any doubts about how good he was, check this video of him during his best spell at Everton... he was very fucking good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnOYbQmskoo

Sam Morrison
30 Posted 10/10/2012 at 09:39:46
James Martin (823) good call on Bent. Not a classy player but a class servant to this club, did a bloody hard job of leading the line. Basically his job was to harass defenders rather than score (I don't think he even got into double figures for the club) but that 4-1-4-1 system wouldn't have worked with many strikers leading the line.
Simon Jones
31 Posted 10/10/2012 at 10:07:20
"Duncan Ferguson – An Everton legend. He was a talisman at a time when we had very little to shout about. On his day he was unstoppable but he did not play or score enough partly due to suspensions but mainly due to injuries. It could be argued that he had a suspect temperament."

Yeah, but not to his face.
Chris Fisher
32 Posted 10/10/2012 at 11:25:13
In answer to the title of this, Yes 100% in my opinion.
Nick Wall
33 Posted 10/10/2012 at 12:19:44
#874 Danny I think we all know it's still early days. But Jelavic seems to have what it takes, it's a long time since we've seen this (with the possible exception of Yakubu), and it's exciting !

What does Jelavic have to do to become a true Everton legend ? For me I'd be looking for over 50 Premiership goals; being consistently among the league's leading scorers when fit; big goals in big matches; loyalty and a good attitude on the pitch; and being the lead striker in a winning team.

Ryan Holroyd
34 Posted 10/10/2012 at 13:10:05
I think Jelavic is our best forward since Sharp. He's got nearly everything. Yak for me was a bit of a flat track bully. He'd score v Derby County then go missing v Liverpool.

Jelavic scores in the big games as well as your Wigans.

£5M. I'll say it again: £5M. An utter steal.

Moyes may have his critics but boy he gets great value most of the time.

Peter Warren
35 Posted 10/10/2012 at 13:21:42
Jo was the best we had.
Keith Glazzard
36 Posted 10/10/2012 at 13:12:26
Jelavic a 'one trick pony'!

If he carries on scoring goals at this rate - and the rate has continued even though everyone knows about him now - he could be a one trick camel as far as I'm concerned.

But he's far from being a limited player. His mobility is excellent and, being a marked man, he drags defenders all over the place. They go where he goes, not where they want to be, set in their defensive formation. This creates spaces around the box for other players to get into. Pienaar, Osman and now Mirallas benefit from Jelavic's movement.

I think the problem is going to be keeping him, not how good he's going to be.

Andy Meighan
37 Posted 10/10/2012 at 14:00:35
Jelavic is just a class act. I don't give a flying one what he does outside the penalty box, that's not his area. His remit is the 18-yard box and my god doesn't he come alive when he's in there. He just seems to have an uncanny knack of knowing where the ball is going to land.

Look at Osman's goal against Soton: it came about because of Jelavic putting the defender under pressure. Keep him injury free and he'll get 20+ for us this season. No mean feat in this league.

Special mention from me to super Kev Campbell, who imo kept us up on his own. I truly believe we'd have ended up like Coventry only for his goals that season.
Keith Glazzard
38 Posted 10/10/2012 at 14:53:36
Forgot to mention. I've got a soft spot , and I don't mean the swamp at the Bates Motel, for Denis Stracqualursi. Hardly 'a class act', but a great battler. Was it the Fulham game where he was given a standing ovation when subbed off near the end? He was totally eclipsed by Jelavic of course, but not a bad lad to have on the bench, particularly for some games. That would be duplicating Big Vic's role perhaps.
Bill Griffiths
39 Posted 10/10/2012 at 15:46:34
On what we have seen so far, Jelavic has to be the best striker we have had in the last 25 years. I would however disagree with David's comment regarding his physicality. He may look a brute but I think he plays more like a fairy sometimes in that he goes down far too easily and is knocked off the ball far to easily. I think this is his biggest weakness in that like Victor he doesn't make use of his physical attributes.

Saying that, I hope he is with us for a long time. I actually started watching The Blues in the mid sixties and the best Everton strikers I have seen are Joe Royle, Bob Latchford and Graeme Sharpe.

I guess I should include Lineker but he wasn't with us long and he was prolific but in my view detrimental to the team as a whole.
Peter Laing
40 Posted 10/10/2012 at 18:56:34
Best finisher at Everton since Gary Lineker. Predatory inside the box and one touch finishes seem to be his forte. The shite would absolutely love to have Jela.
Harry Ogilvie
41 Posted 10/10/2012 at 21:01:49
Why has no one put Kanchelskis in our top strikers?
Danny Broderick
42 Posted 10/10/2012 at 21:50:03
Cos he was a right winger Harry.
Ed Fitzgerald
43 Posted 10/10/2012 at 22:58:34
For all the goals he scored that money grabbing Linekers misses cost us the league that season Luton away sticks in my mind. We altered the way played to fit him in and it cost us in the end. Jelavic as good as Sharp perhaps, but not as good as Larchford or Joe Royle.
Ste Traverse
44 Posted 10/10/2012 at 23:13:42
What about all the goals Lineker got that got us in a postion to win the league, Ed?

Absolute nonsense to put the blame on us missing out on the title in 85/86 on just one player.

And it was Oxford away, not Luton, where he missed those chances.

Losing Big Nev during the run-in was a large contributary factor in our failure to land the league (and FA Cup) that season.

Dan Donn
45 Posted 11/10/2012 at 02:05:01
Watching Jelavic reminds me of Ruud van Nistelrooy in his hey-day, a striker without lightening pace and not blessed with silky skills – but rather a pure predator in the box. Here is hoping Fergie and Co don't see the similarity for our sake...
Trevor Thompson
46 Posted 11/10/2012 at 09:20:35
Got to agree with Ste Traverse,044, I can't understand how a player who could score 40 odd goals in a season be detrimental to the team. I hear we were one dimensional or too direct but I couldn't care less if you have a striker that can get you that many goals playing that way. I'm sure if we had bought in Beardsley or just had Sharp doing all the hard work we could have had an amazing team. Mind you, the 87 squad deserves a hell of a lot of credit. Anyway, I digress...
James Morgan
47 Posted 11/10/2012 at 08:07:00
Was thinking writing something similar the other day. He may not be rapid or full of tricks but his positioning and finishing are exceptional, he is a natural predator and the best striker I've seen in my time as a blue. I'd say his value has increased 5 fold.
Remember how he promised 'goals, goals and more goals?' He's not a liar!
Yak was quality in his pomp but injury got the better of him. Plus he was about 46.

I saw Beattie last week in Manchester. That's it.

David Chait
48 Posted 11/10/2012 at 09:31:35
I feel Jela is the best since the 90's for us.. and that includes a brilliant one season Yak. Jela has more to his armoury and seems to score more types of goals...

I am slightly concerned that Mirallas isn't the best foil for Jela.. at this stage but potentially could be great... he so far is very selfish and the chances Jela has had don't seem a frequent. In the back end of last season veryone was trying to set him up. Now Mirallas is taking some of that space and isn't nearly as lethal. Hope they sort it out soon. Interested to see if Naismith gets a run with Fellaini out.

Bobby Thomas
49 Posted 11/10/2012 at 10:52:58
Yes, hes the best we've had for decades.

Good shout above, he does have a touch of Van Nistelroy about him. Not just the finishing & movement in the box, but his all round play.

He makes the system work, not genuinely quick but will run in behind, his back to goal, hold up & link play is there so as a midfielder he will be great to play with.

And he grafts, he works centre halves. Hes not just a poacher. Fellaini took all the plaudits against United but Jelavic went toe to toe with Vidic & worked him all night.

Top 4 chances lie with his fitness.

Bobby Thomas
50 Posted 11/10/2012 at 11:03:23
Dont know if its been mentioned but Cottee did take pens after the Chelsea miss.

I remember him netting one at the Park End that the keeper should have saved, and clearly remember him missing one in a night game against United, possibly a league cup match when Mark Hughes netted a long range effort. It was at the Street End & I knew he was gonna miss before he took it.

Not basing this on his record from the spot but I thought he was last.

He was a phoney who never did it consistently, lived for the Simod Cup and for such an apparent goal machine was one of the worst 1v1 finishers ive ever seen. Colin Harvey realised his mistake & listed him after about 18 months but he hung around like a bad smell for years.

He was something of a terrace hero as well. Christ we were shite.

Keith Glazzard
51 Posted 11/10/2012 at 11:20:59
David Chait - I agree with you about Mirallas, he's obviously dead keen to get to everything right now (nothing wrong with that) but he's getting in Jelavic's way sometimes. We saw that at Wigan when he 'intercepted' a pull-back for Jelavic (from Baines?). As you say, its early doors so it should be sorted out.
Amit Vithlani
52 Posted 11/10/2012 at 11:22:59
Bobby Thomas #90 I think you are being abit harsh on TC. He scored a crucial goal away at West Ham in the 94 run-in and those 3 points were vital. I remember we ran on to the pitch at the final whistle and mobbed him. Yes those were sad days but if we had been relegated that year I shudder to think what would have happened.

Kendall tried to buy Dublin in 92-93 and pair him with TC and I think the partnership may have worked. Instead we ended up being dubbed "no bite and the seven dwarves" - a team consisting of Mo Johnston, TC, Beardo, Stuart, Beagrie, Mark Ward...but no target man.

Some other posters are having a pop at Lineker. Huh? Without question the most natural goalscorer we had in a long time. Someone called it spot on - we lost Big Nev in the run-in and in the Cup Final Bobby Mimms was horribly exposed. He should never have been beaten at his near post by Ian "Playing in Italy was like playing in a foreign country" Rush.

Tom Bowers
53 Posted 11/10/2012 at 13:26:11
What a great subject this is. The diverse opinion is fascinating.

Jelavic is indeed a complete striker in my book; with him and Fella in the side, Everton are more than a match for any team. Sadly that has now been interrupted. However, Jela has all the attributes: quick off the mark, positional sense, confidence, shielding the ball and heading ability.

It is a little unfair to compare with previous strikers due to the different styles but I have to say that, for all around contribution to the team, Jela is as good as any – including Lineker, who was a terrific player. Jela turned this team around when he came last January as before that we were toothless. The addition of Mirallas has also boosted Jela's contribution as his industry frees up space for Jela.

Yes, Moyes has brought in some gems and we are not that far from being a force if one or two more can be brought in and the current crop can be free of injury.
Matthew Tait
54 Posted 11/10/2012 at 15:45:47
It's far too early to say he's the best striker we've had in the Premier League era, but he's certainly got a chance.

Yakubu was fantastic for one season, and Yelavic would have to be very good indeed to reach that level, but as you say he was never the same after his achilles injury.

Outside of the Yak, Ferguson and Campbell were very important, quality players in very poor sides, albeit both bedevilled by injury. But put Jelavic in the teams of the 90s, and I'm not sure he'd look nearly as good as he does right now. Dunc and Campbell were both good, underrated finishers that suffered badly from poor service while at Everton.

Jelavic certainly already looks better than the rest we've had over the last 20 years, although I think the start that Franny Jeffers made to his Everton career should act as a bit of a cautionary note... defences will adjust to Jelavic, he'll pick up knocks, we'll play tougher teams. There's no reason to think he's likely to keep scoring at his current rate in the long term, though obviously that would be wonderful!

Harry Ogilvie
55 Posted 11/10/2012 at 16:43:27
He was, Danny (#033), but he scored some great goals for us especially those two in the derby game at Anfield.
Nick Armitage
57 Posted 11/10/2012 at 18:27:21
Jelavic reminds me of one of the best strikers I have seen, Jean-Pierre Papin. Both are committed, arrogant, nasty and have the ability to bury a ball before the keeper has even had time to get on his toes.
John Shaw
58 Posted 11/10/2012 at 18:46:35
As the article states 'for 25 years', i'm pretty sure that rules out Lineker, who left in 86 !!
Keith Glazzard
59 Posted 11/10/2012 at 19:13:38
Bloody hell John. That's only one year out. Pretty good for TWebbers. We get people on here who can't see a bloke's a mile offside!
Ed Fitzgerald
60 Posted 11/10/2012 at 19:39:23
Ste and Trevor

We actually won the league without big ears in 85 and 87 with more or less the same team or did that slip your mind? The point I am making is that we did alter the way we played that season to fit him in, and therefore whilst he bagged loads, (he also missed some pretty important ones - I take it you remember and were there?) we didnt score as many from other areas as a result. Lets be honest he was busy sorting out his transfer to Barca in March (When we were top) and that cost us.

John Shaw
61 Posted 11/10/2012 at 20:10:50
Ed - 141, I think you're being a bit unfair on Lineker, I recall reading an article in the early 00's about his transfer and 2 things stood out. Firstly, he didn't ask for a transfer, he was told by Kendall and the Board that a deal had been agreed and he was on his way, (very much like Gray 12 months earlier!!), and secondly, Kendall had been talking to Barca and believed he would be going there as manager, which made me question at the time whether he had set the transfer up because he thought he was going there himself !! As it happened he didn't get the job as they opted for El Tel and Kendall went to Spain a year later !!
Ed Fitzgerald
62 Posted 11/10/2012 at 20:12:02
Ste

It was Luton as well in March away when we lost 2-1 and Richardson as well as Oxford whilst we are being exact

Ed Fitzgerald
63 Posted 11/10/2012 at 20:27:53
John

I agree about Kendall.The point I am making is simple really we changed the way we played he got fourty goals but missed some chances that cost us the title. We actually scored more goals in the league the year before without him they are just facts thats all

Peter Jones
64 Posted 11/10/2012 at 20:09:00
Jelavic is 27. We might have a better chance at keeping him than most think. He's top class no doubt. But a huge investment from a rival is probably going to be for a player with similar class and much younger. He might (fingers crossed) just be that awkward age that allows us to keep him as long as we want.

Unless he has a RVP/Rooney type season, I can't see why a United/City/Chelsea wouldn't just shell out the money for some 22 year old phenom that costs 30-40 mil if they'd be willing to drop 20 mil on Jelavic, a brilliant player, but one they can't get as much mileage out of. Whatever the case, let's just keep winning.
John Shaw
65 Posted 11/10/2012 at 21:31:47
Ed (156) - yeh, we did score one more goal in 84-85 than we did in 85-86, oh and we also conceded 2 less goals in 85-86 than in 84-85, so we could argue that we were harder to score against with Lineker than without, our goal difference in 85-86 was actually better than in 84-85, but lets not get all Rafa with statements about FACTS !

After all we could probably look at some of the defeats that season and ask what the defence was doing, like the 3 goals we gave the shite at home before we bothered to turn up, or the defeats home and away to Leicester, all if's but's and maybe's I'm afraid !

Ed Fitzgerald
66 Posted 11/10/2012 at 23:54:16
I think we scored 88 league goals in 85 and 83 goals in 86 I think so not one goal difference in the league. I think in 1985 we played better football than in 86 and in part I do think in part that was due to Linekers arrival and a slight change in style.

What does irk about me Lineker was his reaction after the defeat by the RS at Wembley he didnt seem to be bothered in the press interviews afterwards compared to people like Reid. And he did bloody miss open goals at Luton and Oxford that cost us.

Keith Glazzard
67 Posted 12/10/2012 at 00:05:28
Peter J 159 - let's talk about cuddly Nicky. Very good point. He's no youngster. He has made his way in a tough business where results count. Bilic came back to GP to watch him play, and I don't think he was a Croatian first choice then (excuse my lack of specialist knowledge). But he is very much in the shop window now. But at what price?

My mantra since May has been 'we have one more year', by which I mean this good squad we have must do well - define that how you wish - to stay together for the year after. Keep winning, as you say, no problem.

David Ellis
68 Posted 12/10/2012 at 07:07:49
Jelavic looks a better all round player than Latchford or Lineker and at the current rate is similarly prolific.

Big Dunc was hopelessly overrated in my opinion and not in the same league at all - I never understood the hype around him. He did not get into enough scoring positions to score unlike Latchford, Linkeker or Jelavic (even when he played for Rangers and Newcastle - i.e. its not just because he played in poor Everton sides).

Sharp is still the best of the bunch since the mid 70's which is as far back as I go, but Jelavic has a similar all round game to Sharpie. But lets see if he can keep it up for a few years before we judge him. Even Beattie had one year when he scored a hatful (and it was not for us!). Someone above mentioned Mike Newell who had a similar fast start before fading (although he did win the league with Blackburn along side Shearer so he did not completely fade away).

Ray Roche
69 Posted 12/10/2012 at 09:12:25
David Ellis @184

You say that Jelavic looks a better all round player than Lineker or Latchford.
But his job is is that of a striker, a goalscorer, predominantly, and as such he is not in the same class. They proved their goalscoring ability over several seasons, although in Linekers case, after one great season here he proved his ability with Barcelona. Latchfords goals dried up somwhat when he suffered injuries and the inevitable drop off as he got a bit older, but 236 appearances and 106 goals is no mean feat. As of now, Jelavic is more like Kevin Campbell. We shall have to wait and see if he can produce the goods over a period of time.

Laurie Hartley
70 Posted 12/10/2012 at 09:45:07
I'm surprised Fred Pickering doesn't get a mention:– 56 goals in 97 appearances.

Jelavic is very different from any striker I have seen in an Everton shirt. He definitely has the killer instinct – he reminds me of a "big" Denis Law.

I hope we can keep him – I think we have got a real dual threat on our hands in him and Mirallas.

Brian Waring
71 Posted 12/10/2012 at 10:54:34
The lad is quality, but he needs to do it for a couple more years before he can be put into the context of 'The best Everton striker for 25 years'.

At the moment we're flying high and creating loads of chances with the attacking football we're playing, something that a few of the strikers who went before him never had the luxury of, the ball was just usually hoofed up to them and they were expected to run around like headless chickens.

Kevin Bennett
72 Posted 12/10/2012 at 11:15:53
I'm showing my age, but Peter Eastoe and Wayne Clarke where clever players for us – old fashioned sniffers!!

Great finishers though..

Trevor Thompson
73 Posted 12/10/2012 at 11:13:27
Ed, 141, It's all conjecture. Who knows if had kept Lineker we may still have won the league the following season and the season after that. Maybe we would have bought in players to complement him or share the workload. Just saying if Jelavic or anyone scores 40 odd goals for us then I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss him.
Would have preferred to have kept a player like that and then build around him.
Paul Mackie
74 Posted 12/10/2012 at 11:45:21
There's 2 things that are making Jelavic look amazing,

1) The service he's getting from Baines, Mirallas, Fellaini, Osman and Pienaar is something none of our other strikers have consistently had

2) He's clinical. I mean absolutely ruthless. He's not the type of player who picks the ball up, goes on mazy runs round the keeper and slots them in. He receives the ball and if it's not in the back of the net by the second touch then it's either been saved or he's missed.

His clinical finishing and his ability to hold the ball up and bring others into play are for me what makes him the best Everton striker I can remember (although my memory starts at Tony Cottee)

David Hallwood
75 Posted 12/10/2012 at 13:58:57
BTW trivia question for the comments about the Lineker years – who was our top scorer the last time we won the league?

No Googling now!
Geoff Trenner
76 Posted 12/10/2012 at 14:28:02
David, either Inchy or Tricky Trev?
Patrick Murphy
78 Posted 12/10/2012 at 14:50:36
Paul Wilkinson or Wayne Clarke ? (surely not Paul Power)
Ray Roche
79 Posted 12/10/2012 at 15:06:27
I see the Spelling Police are back on duty.
Ed Fitzgerald
80 Posted 12/10/2012 at 15:15:24
Sheedy bagged a load that season I even remember Alan Harper scoring a cracker at Chelsea, at least I think I do
Brian Waring
81 Posted 12/10/2012 at 15:34:16
David, that would be Inchy.
David Hallwood
82 Posted 12/10/2012 at 15:47:30
Wayne Clarke with 14
Steve Mink
83 Posted 12/10/2012 at 18:50:39
Agree with all of the shout-outs for Marcus Bent.
Duncan Ferguson : Goal-shy, injury-prone money sponge.
Christopher Kelly
84 Posted 12/10/2012 at 19:39:59
I wouldn't sell Jelavic for under £23M.

If we did have that money, I'd buy another two strikers or attacking mids for £6-8M each, a couple of reinforcements in midfield for £2M each, and a right back for £4-6M.

Deal — send Jelly to Man City!

James Morgan
85 Posted 12/10/2012 at 19:53:55
Steady on Chris Kelly, we are praising the guy, not planning for life without him.
This isn't the rumour mill.
Rory Slingo
86 Posted 12/10/2012 at 20:06:03
Erm, David, don't you mean Trevor Steven? Wayne Clark scored 5 that season.
David Hallwood
87 Posted 12/10/2012 at 20:29:17
Rory I'm doing it from memory, and I'm sure it's our Wayne, but I'll Google it.
Ian Bennett
88 Posted 12/10/2012 at 20:37:00
Steven I reckon - about 14 or 15 if I remember rightly.
Rory Slingo
89 Posted 12/10/2012 at 20:34:15
David, reason I ask is coz I got the 25th Anniv souvenir magazine and it has the '86/87 season's stats on the back page. If you count all competitions, Sheedy, Steven and Heath were tied with 16 goals each. In the league, Tricky Trev led with 14, Sheeds had 13 and Inchy had 11.
David Hallwood
90 Posted 14/10/2012 at 12:55:33
I've been away for a couple of days and the thread's gone dead (bit of poetry there), I'm not doubting you Rory (and how can I as you've got it down in black & white), but if that would've been the million pound question on Who Wants to be a Millionaire, I would have answered Clarke, AND I didn't miss a game that year – just shows you how your memory plays tricks.
Kev Moonan
91 Posted 14/10/2012 at 23:05:04
I agree with E Ftz about Gary Lineker, we won the league in 1985 and we won it with style. We had 4 or 5 players in double figures that season, a great side.

When we bought Lineker we became one-dimensional, the objective was to play the early ball through to him every time — the whole team played and changed for one man, and ultimately it proved costly.

A big mistake from Howard Kendall in my book; we were too reliant on Lineker's goals. If Gary didn't have his lucky boots on, we didn't score... and the pivotal game that season was Oxford away; we blew it that season. But, looking back, we changed the free-flowing 85 winners for one player... amazing really!
Ste Traverse
92 Posted 15/10/2012 at 13:31:01
This cliche I usually hear regarding us changing our style to supply Lineker is absolute rubbish imo.

We could mix it up and played some direct football when required to feed Sharp and Gray the previous season in 84-85.

Rory Slingo
93 Posted 15/10/2012 at 13:47:42
Cheers, David. Honestly, if I hadn't had ordered and read that magazine just recently I wouldn't have been able to answer the question myself! It was only in the following season I became a Blue so I've got no memories to draw upon. Would've loved to have been at every match that year as you were.

Ste, from the horse's mouth:
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2012/04/30/howard-selling-lineker-was-key

“With Gary in the team, it was a different type of side to the one which won us the championship in 1984/85.

“Gary came in and scored a tremendous number of goals but the other players suffered because they’d worked on a different system the year before. When the big bid came in from Barca, I suggested that we take the money and revert back to the system which we’d used when we won the championship.”

Ste Traverse
94 Posted 15/10/2012 at 19:43:15
Of course I've already heard Howard's view many times regarding our supposed change of style to suit Gary...but it doesn't mean I agree with it.

Lineker has himself said it was a load of nonsense.

I was at nearly all the home games that season and even as a then 9 year old I don't recall many games were we concentrated on hitting punts up the park to suit Lineker.

David Price
95 Posted 15/10/2012 at 19:54:16
When Jelavic scored that beauty against Spurs on his home debut, I knew this was the real deal for a striker.

5 Years of this lad and he'll get 100 goals for us.
Ian Bennett
96 Posted 15/10/2012 at 20:30:59
I had a look on the site the other day.

Some of the goal stats surprised me. Duncan just 72, Unsworth 40,Sheedy 97 and Cottee 99. Hibbert 0, Howard 1, and Brett Angell....


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