Best of the Rest again?

I feel I am going the other way, as I am starting to get pissed off more with our players and their inability to have a dig at goal.

The ticka takka is all well and good as long as there is an outcome.

Will be interesting to see how we get through the Arsenal, City and Spurs run that's coming up, if we are still within touching distance of fourth following those games then I, for one, will be very very happy!

He's got what he's asked for, and fair play to him for coming on and saying so.

Phil, over 12 months the squad has changed an awful lot. Its not really 'this season', its since the new signings first started to look bedded in back in February, although the addition of Mirallas has kicked us on even further.

I'm actually gutted we don't have 5 more points than we currently do, but like I've said elsewhere before, we now have the problems of a not-quite-consistent-enough top 4 side who miss out on wins, rather than of a desperate mid-table side grateful for every point they can squeeze out.

I agree with you, Tony. I think we are in with a shout. I honestly think we could realistically end up anywhere from 2nd to 7th really. Too early to tell exactly how good we are. If Gibson is healthy for the remainder of the season and Fellaini stays past January, we can do even better than what we're expecting.

If Moyes had put his Decisive head on earlier the Bily money could have been freed earlier similarly with Rodwell, never mind he's catching on now.

Keep reading Moyesie - you read it here first.

Now about Phil Neville .......

• We have lost Cahill who was past it, and replaced him with Fellaini who has stepped up another gear;
• We have lost Bily who wasn't good enough, and replaced him with Pienaar and Mirallas;
• We have lost Rodwell who was very overrated and replaced him with Gibson who was very underrated;
• We have lost Saha who was past it and replaced him with Jelavic.

We now have better attacking options which equals a better attacking threat.

But then I read it!!!!!!

Total sense and reason – I even agree with him – about everything FFS.

Well said Tony – spot on!

I need a lie down.

A little bit more luck going our way and we could and should be sitting very securely in the Champions League spots right now. Let's get the fire in our bellies for the visit of the Canaries and start climbing again toward those dizzy heights which I no longer feel we are not worthy of.

This post is like the sort of middle-of-the-road stuff I sometimes write myself after a few beers. Remember, Tony, Moyes has yet to win a trophy. As far as encouraging debate on this site goes, this is disappointing indeed.

The whole point of my version of The Moyes Out Brigade was that we should've been trying to win, not trying not to lose .

As a MOB foot soldier, ( note; not former, the uniform is still in the back of the wardrobe incase of any backsliding ) it annoys me that some of the opposite (at the time ) ilk still have a go when some one praises the team. They didn't / don't see that their Moyes right or wrong under any circumstances was part of the problem. It gave the powers that be a free ride to continue to do nothing.

Its amusing and perhaps predictable that the previous Moyes detractors are saying 'See? Why didn't he do this all along?' and his supporters are saying 'See? He is a good manager."

The Premier League is very tight this season and it seems that home advantage is counting more than ever for alot of teams, especially West Brom. Lets hope this trend extends to us and if we can beat Norwich and Arsenal at home in our next two games we should have a good platform to deal with a very tough December.

I don't think Arsenal are half the team they were, Spurs are struggling, the redshite will finish 8th again, so this is our best hope of top 4 for many years.

As Tony says though, I am just happy to see us going for the throat in games - the direct opposite of our playing style the last few seasons.

If we don't make the top 4 fine, but we are at least seeing value for money from all concerned.

For what it's worth I see Moyes as the ultimate pragmatist. If he has a team full of cloggers he will play to their respective (albeit very dull) footballing strengths. I think that what we are seeing this season is a team (our strongest 11) that ticks all the boxes: attacking full backs, ball playing midfielders, wingers with guile and genuine pace and forwards who know where the net is. As a direct result we get the football we have demanded.

The great shame is that if we don't make the top 4 two key components will be lost, Fellaini and Mirrallas. Lads that deserve to play at the top level. Unless Moyes gets that money to re-invest we may revert to the pragmatic bad old days of hoof ball.

So,over to the self-proclaimed greatest Evertonian to supply some proper funds and to tie Moyes down to a new contract.

Watch this space...

It's the factual spin I like, when you spoke to Moyes, Kenwright and the banks did they actually say:

"Guess what the plan is, Bren?"

"The hint is we polish the bench for nearly 2 years with 9 million quid then do a sort of pincer movement when everyone's completely fucked off!!!!!"

Put your ideas in Xmas crackers — they'd be a riot at parties.

Note to self: Never ever attend a Christmas party round Barry's house.

All we need now is for Doddy to come on and criticize everything..

1) We haven't played anyone yet. December is a shocker of a month and I feel the draws against teams we should of battered will come back to haunt us.

2) Hopeless at the back (including Howard who is getting worse by the week). No team that can't keep a clean sheet will challenge top four.

3) Lack of killer instinct, and inability to put teams to bed, this has resulted in too many points lost.

We have improved footballing wise A LOT. But playing better football and having 6 million shots at goal still wont hide the fact that when TOP teams are on top they take advantage. We are far too sloppy at the back and miss too many chances. My prediction : 7th

COYB!!