Looking at the history of the men who have been given the honour of guiding Everton Football Club through battle in the upper echelon of the English and European Leagues, some interesting numbers jump out.
David Moyes left us this week with a solid record, and a lot of people sorry to see him go – myself included. I got pretty nostalgic and saddened to hear that man who aptly named us “The Peoples Club” was moving on – Id always hoped that we could repay his grit and determination to make us succeed with a trophy, but it wasnt to be. Perhaps if he had achieved some silverware, the temptation of Old Trafford might not have been as strong. However, I was also reminded of the countless times when I was cursing Mr Moyes for his baffling substitutions or starting line-ups and it made me wonder why, with such a gifted squad, we were unable to win anything under him.
The Clubs history of managers since the early 1960s tells us quite a lot, and one statistic in particular might shed some light on this matter.
Here is the history in chronological order, showing the trophy count and win percentage:
Season |
Manager |
League Titles |
FA Cups |
League Cups |
Charity Shields |
European Cups |
Trophy Total |
Win % |
2002-2013 |
David Moyes |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
42.1 |
1998-2002 |
Walter Smith |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
32.4 |
1997-1998 |
Howard Kendall |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
26.2 |
1994-1997 |
Joe Royle |
0 |
1 |
0 |
1 |
0 |
2 |
39.0 |
1994-1994 |
Mike Walker |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
17.0 |
1990-1993 |
Howard Kendall |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
38.9 |
1987-1990 |
Colin Harvey |
0 |
0 |
0 |
1 |
0 |
1 |
42.4 |
1981-1987 |
Howard Kendall |
2 |
1 |
0 |
3 |
1 |
7 |
54.1 |
1977-1981 |
Gordon Lee |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
39.3 |
1973-1977 |
Billy Bingham |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
37.2 |
1961-1973 |
Harry Catterick |
2 |
1 |
0 |
2 |
0 |
5 |
46.5 |
When looking at the data in this manner, it shows that while David Moyes didnt win any trophies during his time at Everton, he did have a pretty good win percentage of 42.1% (fourth highest). The three previous managers with higher win percentages all won trophies (even if it was just a Charity Shield, in the case of Colin Harvey) and even one manager with a slightly lower win percentage won two trophies (take a bow, Joe Royle). So what could possibly explain the fact that Moyes didnt win anything in his eleven years at Goodison with this in mind?
I have a suggestion, and it I sincerely hope that this is factored in to the thinking of Bill Kenwright and the Board during their hunt for a replacement: playing mentality. The four managers who have won us some silverware since the 1960s were all attacking-minded players during their playing careers: attacking midfielders or forwards. Those who have failed to win any silverware were all previously defenders or goalkeepers. If we sort the above table first based on total number of trophies won and then on win percentage, a new pattern emerges.
Season |
Manager |
Former Playing |
League |
FA Cups |
League Cups |
Charity Shields |
European Cups |
Trophy Total |
Win % |
1981-1987 |
Howard Kendall |
Midfielder |
2 |
1 |
0 |
3 |
1 |
7 |
54.1 |
1961-1973 |
Harry Catterick |
Forward |
2 |
1 |
0 |
2 |
0 |
5 |
46.5 |
1994-1997 |
Joe Royle |
Forward |
0 |
1 |
0 |
1 |
0 |
2 |
39.0 |
1987-1990 |
Colin Harvey |
Midfielder |
0 |
0 |
0 |
1 |
0 |
1 |
42.4 |
2002-2013 |
David Moyes |
Defender |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
42.1 |
1977-1981 |
Gordon Lee |
Defender |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
39.3 |
1990-1993 |
Howard Kendall |
Midfielder |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
38.9 |
1973-1977 |
Billy Bingham |
Forward |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
37.2 |
1998-2002 |
Walter Smith |
Defender |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
32.4 |
1997-1998 |
Howard Kendall |
Midfielder |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
26.2 |
1994-1994 |
Mike Walker |
Goalkeeper |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
17.0 |
If we remove Howard Kendalls second and (sigh) third return roles to the club, which many saw as being a desperate attempt to recapture the glory days of the mid/late 1980s, then – with a sole exception of Billy Bingham – the best times at Goodison have come with an attacking-minded manager in charge.
Season |
Manager |
Former Playing |
League |
FA Cups |
League Cups |
Charity Shields |
European Cups |
Trophy Total |
Win % |
1981-1987 |
Howard Kendall |
Midfielder |
2 |
1 |
0 |
3 |
1 |
7 |
54.1 |
1961-1973 |
Harry Catterick |
Forward |
2 |
1 |
0 |
2 |
0 |
5 |
46.5 |
1994-1997 |
Joe Royle |
Forward |
0 |
1 |
0 |
1 |
0 |
2 |
39 |
1987-1990 |
Colin Harvey |
Midfielder |
0 |
0 |
0 |
1 |
0 |
1 |
42.4 |
2002-2013 |
David Moyes |
Defender |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
42.1 |
1977-1981 |
Gordon Lee |
Defender |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
39.3 |
1973-1977 |
Billy Bingham |
Forward |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
37.2 |
1998-2002 |
Walter Smith |
Defender |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
32.4 |
1994-1994 |
Mike Walker |
Goalkeeper |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
17 |
Evertonians can regularly be accused of complaining about negative tactics put forth by the former man in charge. David Moyes, despite the adoration that he received from most quarters of The Peoples Club, also earned himself the nickname “Dithering Dave”, in no small part due to his seeming inability to transform games through the timely introduction of effective substitutions. It was rare to see a potential goal scorer standing on the touchline when we were a goal down with ten minutes to play – more likely wed see a central defender or holding midfielder gracing the hallowed Goodison turf in place of a forward.
Despite my admiration and overall sense that David Moyes did a fantastic job on an absolute pittance at Everton, I cannot help but wonder what might have been and what might yet be with a change of mentality around the place. Moyes no doubt took us up a notch from the glory (ahem) days of Walter Smith, Mike Walker, and Co but I am left in an uncertain middle ground: I am disappointed to see such a great bloke and class act leaving our great Club, but am desperately hoping that we bring in an attacking-minded manager to replace him.
If my suspicion is true, then the former playing positions of rumoured replacement managers might be quite telling as to what to expect.
- Malky Mackay: Defender
- Slaven Bilic: Defender
- Rafa Benitez (oh behave): Sweeper
- Jose Mourinho (dream on dreamers): Midfielder
- Roberto Martinez: Midfielder (defensive)
- Paul Lambert: Midfielder (defensive)
- Martin ONeill: Midfielder
- Neil Lennon: Midfielder
- Michael Laudrup: Midfielder (attacking)
- Gianfranco Zola: Forward
- Mark Hughes: Forward
- Jurgen Klopp: Striker/Defender
- Roberto Di Matteo: Midfielder
So it seems that the majority of possible candidates are either former forwards or midfielders. Encouraging? Possibly so! Rule out the ludicrous (Rafa and Jose) and the defensive minded ones, and only consider attacking minded former players and were left with: Lennon, Laudrup, Zola, Hughes, Klopp, and Di Matteo.
I dont think Ive heard a single Evertonian think Lennon or Hughes are even worth mentioning, so were down to Laudrup, Zola, Klopp and Di Matteo – none of which are half-bad in my opinion. Of that list, I would love to see Gianfranco Zola at the helm – he is the perfect fit for Everton and brings the attacking mentality that we need to go up a gear. He just took Watford to third in the Championship with a 50% win percentage and the joint highest goal difference in that league (most goals scored out of all teams). He knows the English game inside out and backwards and would likely come cheaper than the rest, something that Bill Kenwright will no doubt be keen on.
Evertons former great, Neville Southall, came out endorsing Zola today and I have to say I am completely on that bandwagon. Bring in Zola, Mr Kenwright!
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2 Posted 12/05/2013 at 03:35:36
But Zola, would be an interesting appointment. I'd rather we pick a manager who could be with us for the next 10 years and, for some reason, I don't see that with Zola.
On the other hand, we're a great club with a big fanbase, a decent squad, a high profile, and a top 6 finish.
An attractive 'name' might just convince players that we're a decent option?
3 Posted 12/05/2013 at 06:07:17
On the basis of your argument Zola is a good shout, I've always liked him (who doesn't?). Another would be Hoddle. I've never really understood why he's been out if management for so long. Although I some times get the impression when listening to him on Sky that he's as mad as a march hare.
5 Posted 12/05/2013 at 07:51:05
My favorite to come in has been Bilic, since he have played for the club, but now am I not so sure anymore. My next favorite was Pereira, but he had only a amateur career as player and I was unsuccessful to find out what position he played in, but he have a good win % as a coach.
Zola could be a good try.
6 Posted 12/05/2013 at 08:40:33
Honestly, this kind of correlations have been taken apart so many times before.
There are two separate points here : winning football vs attractive football. Of which Moyes is slammed for both.
I believe that if Moyes had won the couple of trophies, the vitriol will be halved.
7 Posted 12/05/2013 at 08:39:32
With 3 points for a win, a draw is closer to a defeat. The way a draw is often described as teams 'sharing the points' is a total deception. The points are shared with one thrown in the bin. Recent examples from the derbies springs to mind. It is commonly agreed that both the RS and us had perfectly good goals disallowed. We would both have been better off with those goals standing (despite home defeats to arch rivals). We would both have had 3 points rather than two.
And there's the thing. It is constantly mentioned how, with 6 defeats, only City and United have lost less than us. Who cares. It's not 'not losing' that counts. It's winning.
If we had an attack minded coach as advocated above and went for the jugular in most games what might we see? More handsome wins, and in all probability, more disastrous defeats which might leave us all fuming after being 2-0 up on 70 mins.
However, our current record stands at
W15 D15 L6. Points - 60
Looks good. 'Hard to Beat'. 'Only 6 defeats'. 'Only top two have lost less'.
But imagine 8 of those draws being defeats. Sounds awful doesn't it? Losing more than a third of all our games. Then imagine the other 7 draws becoming wins. Our record then looks like this:
W22 D0 L14. Points - 66.
Suddenly, we are one point away from the promised land of the Champions League places with two winnable fixtures to come (Chelsea hungover after Europa League victory).
I know this is hypothetical and draws are inevitable, but the fact remains that risking defeat to try and win is a much more proftable strategy in the long term, even though there will be far more defeats along the way
8 Posted 12/05/2013 at 08:49:59
We have to ask ourselves whats possible, whats probable, what (who ) we deffo DON'T want and who we could live with.
So have at it who DON'T WE WANT.
Round, Neville, MON, Bruce, Big Sam, McCarthy, Lennon, Makay, Megson...in fact, if we admit that Moyes was the best at percentage type KITAP1 we don't want any shade of any Moyes-lite type manager....been there done that got the best of the rest trophy.
We have 4mill per year to spend, Start at the top; hey special one 4mill a year to do the biz, sorry lads love to but I've just signed for chelsea....on to next on the list of none Moyes-lite coaches. It might take a while but 4mill per year will get you some one good.
You will only get the right answer if you ask the right question...that means not asking any nomark Moyes-lite candidates.
Bill says he wants to listen to the fans...yeah right. I don't think he'll listen to who we do want, but he may have no choice....if we shout loud enough, to listen to who we DON'T want
So, do we feel lucky, who can we live with
9 Posted 12/05/2013 at 09:06:52
I've got to agree with Kane regarding these draws, a simpler way to look at the results of ten games
10 draws a season gives a team 10 points
5 wins and 5 losses in the same games gives 15 points
4 wins and 6 losses still gives 12 points
The margin for error and a late last minute winner in games holding out for a draw with a siege against your goal is very thin and far too many games in Moyes' tenure we were subjected to just that; defending deep for large swathes of the game with the inevitable result. The Fulham game this season when we sat back and they got a last minute equaliser even had Jol perplexed saying he got an out of jail card having been under the cosh for most of the game, if the ball is in the opposition half and peppering their goal with shot after shot they are far less likely to be capable of mounting an attack.
10 Posted 12/05/2013 at 09:07:14
Did you ever see him play?
Ever spoken to Wigan fans about his contribution to the "3 amigos"?
He was one of the 3 spanish players who transformed Wigan a player of real skill without the pace or strength to make it at the top level.
Has to be Martinez to remove the cloud of choking in the big games - stats are there to be manipulated. The greatest player EVER in English football until Ryan Giggs took his mantle IS ......... (DRUM ROLL PLEASE)
PHIL NEAL ! based on medals won stats of course.
11 Posted 12/05/2013 at 09:20:24
Bill; finger out, get it sorted.
12 Posted 12/05/2013 at 10:45:09
13 Posted 12/05/2013 at 11:13:47
Agree with the above points about draws. Fortune favours the brave and very rarely was that Moyes. Cautious to the extreme!
It will be Mackay or Martinez though so best pick a side
14 Posted 12/05/2013 at 11:34:44
The reason for this is basically what Kane says.
15 Posted 13/05/2013 at 21:30:14
Trond Sollied, he have won his good share of silverware.
But he have a tendency to come on the edge with some of his players, he obviously hate primadonnas.
So it's not always truth to what mentioned in this article.....I just had to spin my head for a couple of days to run this in my memory.
So if we should go for any Norwegian manager, he is the guy, playing offensive counter attack football, in preferably a 433 formation.
Solskjær is struggling nowadays so he have more than enough to get his Molde on the right keel again, will be fun to see if he can manage that, and we can wonder if it they struggle because they sold Forren last winter.
16 Posted 13/05/2013 at 21:41:25
17 Posted 14/05/2013 at 09:12:38
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1 Posted 12/05/2013 at 03:29:33