The time has come for us to unite behind one candidate, and given the pitiful list of options that we’ve been presented with over the last week, the time is now. Bill said he’ll let us guide him to the right man, and at this moment in time it seems a growing group of us have surrendered to the idea of Roberto Martinez. I fear that if we don’t get together as a majority then BK has the door open to make an in-house appointment with the lack of a clear fans’ front-runner being cited as an excuse. Or, of course, the disaster that would be Martinez getting the job.
Having weighed up the pros and cons of the few men we would all realistically consider, I have come to the conclusion that Vitor Pereira is the man that stands above the rest —and, no, this isn’t just in the wake of the Greg O’Keeffe article in the LFC Echo (which I read online, of course). There were some interesting quotes in that article from Vitor though. Namely, that he has a strong work ethic and uses it to study tactical strategies,
Porto have had the best defensive league record for his two seasons in charge and he believes in scouting young players from countries that have a track record for producing quality players. He also speaks fluent English and stated a month or so back that working in England appeals to him.
I first took note of him when we were linked with him in a national a month ago. Since then I have been keeping tabs on Porto. I watched their game against Benfica the other night — a must win game that has all but secured them the title again. The game at 1-1 looked to have drifted away from Porto but with 20 minutes to go, the more they were trying to get the ball forward the more Benfica were regaining possession and running the clock down with time wasting antics and good football.
Then in the 79th on came Kelvin for the holding midfielder Lucho who duly popped up with the winner. When did David Moyes ever inspire victory in a must-win game for Everton? Vitor Pereira has shown that he is a winner. He would attract high quality young players from abroad and would look to push us upward from the day he arrived. I acknowledge that the Portuguese league isn’t the strongest in the world but we now need a winner. I don’t see a winner in most of the names linked to us at the moment.
As for the likely man Martinez, he took over a Wigan side that had just finished 11th in the PL, 14th the season before. Yes they’ve consistently sold players but Martinez has built the squad that’s there now himself, and he said after their relegation last night that "I never expected this to happen. We have an incredible bunch of players at the club, they don’t deserve this.” He’s not only tactically naive then.
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2 Posted 15/05/2013 at 21:30:45
Rumored to have attended two Everton games this season post Christmas?
3 Posted 15/05/2013 at 21:27:36
I really feel we need somebody who already understands the English game and ideally has a few years experience managing in the Premiership.
I like Martinez because he does send out his teams full of enthusiasm and belief. He does get his teams playing attacking creative football. I honestly believe under Martinez the 'School of Science' tag would return to Everton.
But I also understand some fans concerns over Martinez. He has just been relegated and he seems to lack the basics of defending. Under Martinez Everton would improve the quality of their football and possibly beat the likes of Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool more often but I fear they would also be vunerable at the back and would undoubtedly lose more games and slip in the league placings.
I really don't know what the answer is and feel for Kenwright who ultimately has to make a difficult decision.
For me there is no obvious candidate to replace Moyes. Each of the names mentioned so far has good and bad points.
None of the names mentioned so far have excited me or filled me with confidence. I honestly believe its a little bit of pot luck and Kenwright is just going to have to make a decision and hope things work out.
Martinez, MacKay, Pereira, Lennon, Poyet, Neville or Big Dunc. There's just no way of knowing which (if any) of them would be a good Everton manager until they get a chance to prove it.
In 2002 if you had told me David Moyes would manage Everton for 11 years and then replace SAF as Man Utd boss I would have laughed at you.
4 Posted 15/05/2013 at 21:42:56
5 Posted 15/05/2013 at 21:54:14
6 Posted 15/05/2013 at 21:55:40
7 Posted 15/05/2013 at 21:40:45
Pointedly he's not Martinez which is mentioned in the piece.
The FA cup triumph is clearly a red rag to a bull among some a whole host of beliefs regarding Moyes blown out the water means concentrating on Wigan relegation is preferred.
Amid forced sales of top, top forwards - Valencia, Nzogbia, Moses and a net spend of minus £11.6 million during his time he has had the bravery to play football - AT WIGAN FFS.
Winning a trophy in such circumstances as relegation breathes down your neck is quite extraordinary.
Well chaps 3 populist names cover 50% of the votes and ALL are the polar opposite of Moyes.
One thing is sure we don't want anymore of the shite we've endured the past 11 years.
8 Posted 15/05/2013 at 22:05:45
I don't think Bill will go abroad though. Your right about the pitiful candidates though.
9 Posted 15/05/2013 at 22:12:37
10 Posted 15/05/2013 at 22:09:18
"Does he even speak English"
I would have thought the part where the original poster states "He also speaks fluent English" might have given you a clue.
11 Posted 15/05/2013 at 22:10:45
But I'd be more inspired if any one of them was getting anywhere near the share of the vote Moyes received when we recently voted on whether or not his contact should be renewed
12 Posted 15/05/2013 at 22:18:11
13 Posted 15/05/2013 at 22:16:33
14 Posted 15/05/2013 at 22:15:13
...hence why I'm pre-emptively depressed that we won't do it.
15 Posted 15/05/2013 at 22:10:30
For me, Martinez is head and shoulders above the rest. In terms of relegation, Klopp had taken Mainz down before Dortmund had the foresight to appoint him based on the potential shown - rather than looking for someone who'd hoarded trophies at a big club in a small league. The wonder of Wigan is that a club that should be at the same level of a St. Helens Town or Warrington Town actually managed to remain in the premiership for so long, never mind win the FA Cup by outplaying the previous year's champions. Martinez is an intelligent positive man who is going places. He'd be good for us next year, but most importantly he has the potential to get better and better. I saw that someone wrote the other day that Moyes leaving wasn't an end, it was just the end of the beginning, and - with Martinez - I really believe that would be true. The future can be Blue.
16 Posted 15/05/2013 at 22:20:47
Haven't you heard there's a rumour Moyes has decided he doesn't want to be here anymore.
if not you won't believe this - someone said he was spotted having a meeting with Fergie and Giggs to sort the Rooney situation!!!
... a manager moonlighting with another club - never happened in the history of the game.
17 Posted 15/05/2013 at 22:20:20
The point about being new to England doesnt wash for me. Jose Mourinho didnt have experience of Premier League but he got by.
He has made some great buys -the best example being Jackson Martinez who took over from Falcao and looks a great centre forward. He scored 32 goals in 42 games this season.
Lest hope the board can be brave for once and go for class
18 Posted 15/05/2013 at 22:23:39
19 Posted 15/05/2013 at 22:28:53
20 Posted 15/05/2013 at 22:28:38
21 Posted 15/05/2013 at 22:25:28
Having not lost in their league this year, the Porto boss comes the closest to meeting this brief.
p.s Phil Neville has never lost a game as a manager. Just saying.
22 Posted 15/05/2013 at 22:25:16
23 Posted 15/05/2013 at 22:29:10
And given we're not going to get (ie: can afford to pay) the VERY best.
And given I KNOW many of those who've been mentioned in connection with the job ARE shite - I would go along with Pereira.
A risk?
Absolutely, 100%.
But who - THAT WE CAN AFFORD - won't be a risk?
Paul Andrew (150) laughing here
(I swear some only read every third line then leap in)
24 Posted 15/05/2013 at 22:43:35
"Amid forced sales of top, top forwards - Valencia, Nzogbia, Moses and a net spend of minus £11.6 million during his time he has had the bravery to play football - AT WIGAN FFS.
Winning a trophy in such circumstances as relegation breathes down your neck is quite extraordinary.
Well chaps 3 populist names cover 50% of the votes and ALL are the polar opposite of Moyes."
25 Posted 15/05/2013 at 22:55:37
Does anyone know if the 'rumour' in The Telegraph about Laudrup's £10m compensation fee is actually true, or is it just made-up paper talk? As far as I know, it hasn't been confirmed by a reliable source.
26 Posted 15/05/2013 at 22:58:54
The more I read/hear about Vitor Pereira, the more I think he's worth a shout. As others have pointed out, most of the other, realistic, names mentioned don't really inspire. Whoever it is though, I just hope they are lined up to start on 1 July, so we're not left in a period of limbo and uncertainty. That has to be Bill's priority.
27 Posted 15/05/2013 at 23:10:25
"quite extraordinary"...Birmingham?
28 Posted 15/05/2013 at 23:05:11
He had a mop and bucket, was wearing a brown coat, a flat cap, had a ciggy hanging out of the corner of his mouth.
Oh and he was mumbling something about "kids fucking little bastards all of em!"
Maybe we'll be getting...(grabs coat)..
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A caretaker manager!!
(puts hands on hips, adopts Frankie Howard voice)
Oh kkkkkckkk suit yerselves!!
29 Posted 15/05/2013 at 23:10:54
30 Posted 15/05/2013 at 23:16:43
The more I have read about this guy, the more I like what I read, and the more I fancy him as the guy who is going to take us to the next level.
So a big yes from me for Vitor Pereira.
He also have a winning name...doesn't he?
31 Posted 15/05/2013 at 23:28:43
32 Posted 15/05/2013 at 23:42:34
The second most obvious factor is the shambolic defending week-in & week-out, managers are supposed to know the opposition and stifle their strengths while exploiting their weaknesses. Watching Wigan, I get the impression they are told before every game to just go out and press and pass and believe and express and be the best you can be and express and pass and... They don't look as if they've ever even worked on defending a corner on the training pitch.
Also, reading on his Wiki page, it says the Swansea fans labelled him El Judas because he stated he'd only ever leave Swansea if he was forced out, then a better offer came along. He also criticised players who left Swansea for a better opportunity prior to his own ship jump.
I also didn't like the way he handled that tackle by McManaman last month, he defended him and never acknowledged what a bad tackle it was – he's only a kid, okay... but at least say it was wrong. I always liked the way DM handled the Fellaini vs Shawcross incident.
I really do like the guy though.
33 Posted 16/05/2013 at 00:16:56
34 Posted 16/05/2013 at 00:20:46
He is not class, he's not even average ! Every year he is involved in a relegation fight and theshite spouted about his free flowing exciting football is bollocks.
He wins games he shouldn't win fair enough, but his teams take more hidings than Jim davidson's wives.
35 Posted 16/05/2013 at 00:40:07
36 Posted 16/05/2013 at 01:02:25
Fergie or Mourinho would have likely got Wigan relegated if he had been in charge. Its what happens when your one of the smallest fish in a pond. You cannot measure the quality of a manager on a relegation if the team he is managing is nowhere near the quality of most of the rest of the league. All told, I think he done a very good job over his spell there in what is essentially a rugby town.
I think the same can be said for fellow fans who slag Moyes for never winning a trophy. Its the equivalent of me playing at some high stakes poker event with Bill Gates and Donald Trump these days in the league - no chance unless your very, very lucky and rarely have an off day.
37 Posted 16/05/2013 at 01:01:23
Now that would be a fascinating summer.... Are you listening Bill?
38 Posted 16/05/2013 at 01:01:13
39 Posted 16/05/2013 at 01:46:16
We need someone with a brain, a long term view, tactically astute, who can defend as well as attack, who can pick talent, develop players and is not reliant on a big budget. From what I can see, Pereira ticks all those boxes. In terms of EPL experience, there is not reason why he could not be paired up a "local" as an assistant (PN would be my choice). It's a risk I guess but a calculated one and would certainly show ambition from the club.
40 Posted 16/05/2013 at 02:05:08
Why arent we talking about Hiddinck, De Boer,Rijkaard etc.
Have we really sunk so low as Evertonians that we will accept worse than Moyes.
Why not put some pressure on Bill and cronies to think and act like a top club instead of going for the cheap option every time.
Martinez teams are so laid back like him. Thats why they have the WORST defensive record in the premiership. There is no get and go about his players.
People go on about the players Martinez lost well Moyes lost Arteta, Rodwell, Cahill, Yakubu etc and guess what still kept us in the top 6.
41 Posted 16/05/2013 at 03:56:07
Latest odds 9-57 Chicago-time - 3-57 AM in the best city in the world
Roberto Martinez 5/2
Neil Lennon 7/2
Alan Stubbs 6/1
Gus Poyet 10/1
Malky Mackay 16/1
Phil Neville 25/1
Vitor Pereira 25/1
Mark Hughes 28/1
Lennon and Stubbs's odds cut significantly
NO
Martizes is like our knight in shining armour
Is this all it is
Is this the best we can do now?
Lord help us one and all
42 Posted 16/05/2013 at 07:00:13
43 Posted 16/05/2013 at 07:20:01
45 Posted 16/05/2013 at 08:40:26
I'll let you work out the knock on effects.
47 Posted 16/05/2013 at 09:00:55
I don't believe Evertonians - or more to the point ToffeeWeb followers could agree on which way is up!
Even if we could join as one, the problem now seems to be that we have reached our voting capacity with not many new Pereira votes (or any one else's ) for that matter coming in!
We have pretty much reached a 3 way split between Laudrup (good choice but wasted vote since we won't pay the compo); Martinez (God forbid!); and Pereira (my favoured choice).
Couldn't we ask that nice Mr Kendrick to switch the Martinez votes on to Pereira on the grounds that anyone voting for a manager who has just got his team relegated cannot be of sound mind!
48 Posted 16/05/2013 at 09:28:23
Would it be possible to run the poll again, now that we've had a while to read various info about all these guys on TW threads? That's been quite informative for me, and I guess I and many others might now change their minds.
Mr Editor?
49 Posted 16/05/2013 at 09:18:20
I was one of those who said this about Davey and look how he turned out.?(cue Ross Edwards!)
I see the likes of Martinez and Mackay as likely to do a decent job whilst my inherrant dislike of Lennon since his playing days sets me against him.
I fear for the appointment of a foreign manager with no experience of our Prem and see Pereira as just the latest name on journalists`lips. On the otherhand,Laudrup seems to have quickly settled into `our scene`,so I guess he`d do.
In short,who knows a feck as to how ANYONE would turn out?
PS.Whatever happenned to Mike Walker?
50 Posted 16/05/2013 at 09:38:27
51 Posted 16/05/2013 at 09:46:07
52 Posted 16/05/2013 at 09:50:17
53 Posted 16/05/2013 at 09:44:34
54 Posted 16/05/2013 at 09:58:34
55 Posted 16/05/2013 at 10:15:31
56 Posted 16/05/2013 at 10:27:59
They just beat Benfica who are no mugs and we were taken apart by Sporting before so I don't agree with that at all.
57 Posted 16/05/2013 at 10:19:15
I was actually sitting here and thinking of namely Mike walker, when I read Martinez name...strange one this....so I have no good gut feeling about Martinez nope.
PS. Walker is living in Cyprus, last managed APOEL
58 Posted 16/05/2013 at 10:51:52
The more I think about it the more Periera has to be the right man.
Young.
Very strong tactician with an emphasis on possession and attacking football.
Used to working on a budget.
Contract run out now so no compensation required.
Could bring one or two players from a Porto team that should be about win the league.
Interested in coming to England.
Surely a man whose team is winning the league is more exciting than a man whose team just got relegated. He would certainly come with a winning mentality.
59 Posted 16/05/2013 at 11:36:11
Maybe now we should just make a concerted effort to focus our votes on those candidates who are by far and away ahead in terms of votes cast, i.e.Laudrup; Martinez and Pereira. Doing this and making it meaningful depends on essentially on 2 things: 1. Will the good editor, Michael Kendrick, agree, as soon as, to making the poll a 2 stage poll (the first being the one currently running); and 2. If Bill Kenwright says he will listen to Evertonians how best if the vote is completed in time do we get the information to him? I suspect you’re talking about less than a week here!
Let’s face it at the last count there were 10580 votes cast in the ToffeeWeb poll. Where else is BK going to go to go to get the views of that many genuine Evertonians?
A second stage of voting will not be detrimental to those who have already voted since they will pretty much be the same people voting again. Those who voted for non-starters have the opportunity to place their votes more effectively and other may wish to re-asses based on the posts appearing in the ToffeeWeb debates and on their own research which naturally becomes more focused as the debate heats up.
So Michael, what do you think, would it be possible to arrange a fresh poll on the leading 3 candidates? I’m sure, if you are agreeable, votes would come in pretty quick particularly if it was given a very tight time scale (or as soon as it reached 10,000).
And secondly does anyone have any clever ideas how we could ensure any second vote get to BK and those around him? I’m not sure he reads Toffeweb!
60 Posted 16/05/2013 at 11:36:33
61 Posted 16/05/2013 at 11:30:52
Still it would be interesting to re-run the vote given that it seems pretty obvious that the favourite candidate is a non-starter.
62 Posted 16/05/2013 at 11:37:08
A man who has not only operated on a tight budget but also on a tight gene-pool!!!
Imagine a team of Scousers sweeping all before them playing a free flowing 3-3-1-3...
Just read his wiki page and cream yourself over that...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa
Amazingly the man Guardiola described a few years ago as "the best in the World" is out of contract and has never managed a club bigger than Everton. JUST ASK THE MAN!!!
However, as I realise this will never happen I will try and put him out of my mind and jump firmly aboard the Pereira bandwagon. A very decent 2nd choice by the looks of it.
63 Posted 16/05/2013 at 11:50:30
I am also bewildered that Kendall has come out in favour of Ferguson. As a former Bilbao manager, he should be our middle man in talks with Bielsa. He could just ring them up and say "Hi, how's it going? Blah, blah, balh. By the way, can I have a chat with Marcelo?"
He doesn't speak much English, apparently. That's the only drawback.
64 Posted 16/05/2013 at 12:00:03
65 Posted 16/05/2013 at 11:54:26
He has a 38% win ratio and spent the previous 13 years in international management with Argentina and Chile.
He's only managed Latinos, never had a sniff of northern Europeans - does he even speak English?
66 Posted 16/05/2013 at 12:03:51
67 Posted 16/05/2013 at 11:57:05
A question of importance for me in regards Pereira would be, does he have a proven ability to extract value in the transfer market?
68 Posted 16/05/2013 at 12:00:50
The language thing shouldn't be an issue at all. That Pottechino fella seems to have fitted in very nicely at Southampton - which by the way is just another thing that would wind me up - A no-mark club like Southampton get an up and coming continental manager and we end up with Fat Malky or another 'name' from the mediocre squad.
Blood boils just at the thought.
69 Posted 16/05/2013 at 12:12:20
Even though I am personally far from convinced that he overachieved, I’m not criticising Martinez, I’m just pointing out what I perceive to be a massive inconsistency.
70 Posted 16/05/2013 at 12:13:59
I'm also lead to believe that their star player Llorente has been in the middle of a massive 'I want out' strop this season. ( Admittedly my 'sauce' is one guy who could simply be making it up )
71 Posted 16/05/2013 at 12:19:26
Mike, I thought that was abolished, but still looks more or less adhered to, if a little more relaxed than before.
Bilbao were great to watch last season though.
72 Posted 16/05/2013 at 12:20:51
If it were to happen, the best thing would be to post the results (recorded delivery) along with a letter along the lines of:
Dear Mr Kenwright, At ToffeeWeb, ten thousand Evertonians have been discussing and researching the potential new Everton manager and have just taken a new vote...
To the office of Mr Kenwright:
Bill Kenwright Limited
BKL House
1 Venice Walk
London W2 1RR
United Kingdom
This would surely hold some weight if Mr Kenwright really is listening.
73 Posted 16/05/2013 at 12:26:34
74 Posted 16/05/2013 at 12:36:50
My position is essentially: No Brit manager. Especially Hughes. The bastard.
75 Posted 16/05/2013 at 12:40:13
76 Posted 16/05/2013 at 13:14:42
77 Posted 16/05/2013 at 12:14:29
78 Posted 16/05/2013 at 13:26:29
79 Posted 16/05/2013 at 13:33:29
80 Posted 16/05/2013 at 13:33:46
Martinez
Pereira
McKay
I think it will be either 1 or 3. Pereira might be a bit too exotic for boys pen bill.
81 Posted 16/05/2013 at 13:35:00
I don't for a second imagine BK reads TW, but surely someone at the club must have given him the results of our poll? A poll of 10,000 Everton supporters is not insignificant, and I don't see how else he is going to get an idea of who fans want.
82 Posted 16/05/2013 at 13:38:54
Andrew, the point is BK said he would listen well let's give him something to listen to!
Kev, we all need to keep plugging away!
83 Posted 16/05/2013 at 13:41:20
84 Posted 16/05/2013 at 13:51:59
If anyone else has other ideas we should also use them. I suggest we email Echo journalists at the same time. I know some people dismiss them but Dave Prentice and Greg O''Keefe are actually Evertonians!
85 Posted 16/05/2013 at 14:11:27
http://www.toffeeWeb.com/site/classifieds/24591.html
Wouldn't it be a good idea of the current results of the TW poll were emailed to BK and/or the club? Then we could do a second poll, perhaps removing anyone who scored less than 5%, where we could vote again on the shortlist.
Michael/Lyndon - is this feasible or not? It would mean that the club are at least aware of how some of its supporters are thinking. As I said, 10,000 is a fair number of people.
I expect a new manager to be appointed within 10 days, so if we want to be listened to then we should do it now.
87 Posted 16/05/2013 at 14:26:22
88 Posted 16/05/2013 at 14:28:53
89 Posted 16/05/2013 at 12:41:50
Gets my vote.
90 Posted 16/05/2013 at 14:30:23
Also we should email the same to anyone else connected to the club; Sharpe, Horne, Prentice, O'keefe etc. Atleast then we would all know that we've done everything we can to influence a positive decision.
91 Posted 16/05/2013 at 14:34:15
92 Posted 16/05/2013 at 14:47:43
93 Posted 16/05/2013 at 14:55:05
Laudrup
Martinez
Pereira
Bilic
Di Matteo
Ferguson
Benitez
95 Posted 16/05/2013 at 15:10:39
96 Posted 16/05/2013 at 15:05:09
If it were the other names from the leading candidates on the list, my response would generally be a "so what?" at best.
If it was Mark Hughes......
(Don't know why but I've got a feeling it'll be Phil Neville).
97 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:04:18
98 Posted 16/05/2013 at 15:49:36
Laudrup - Has publicly stated that he will be at Swansea next season; reportedly has a £10mill buyout cluase.
Martinez - Won FA cup with some good football; Just been relegated; has failed to outperform budget constraints for entire time in charge of Wigan; left Swansea under a cloud after publicly stating he wouldn't leave; tactically very naive; shocking defensive record.
Pereira - Won 2 league titles (with a win this weekend) in 2 seasons at Porto; wants to manage in England and speaks English; has a good knowlege of top young talent in South America, Portugal and Spain, and would be able to attract them to EFC; a man on the up; Out of contract in summer.
Bilic - Knows EFC; did well at Croatia with a good team; currently manager of lokomtiv moscow who are in 10th of 16 in Russian PL; got beat 4-1 at home on Sunday.
Di Matteo - Won CL; sacked by West Brom and Chelsea; doesn't seem to fit somehow.
Big Dunc - Loves the club; no experience; would surely be a huge gamble rather than a calculated risk.
Rafa - Is a winner; out of contract; was very disrespectful to us when in charge of the RS; would he come here and would we accept him?
99 Posted 16/05/2013 at 15:49:50
I don't want to speak from a high-horse (though I like to watch them at Aintree), but I have been living in Porto for some time now, and I have watched Porto on a regular basis.
Essentially the quality of their football has gone down since Andre Villas-Boas left and was replaced by his number two, this man Victor Pereira. True, he won the League last season and is on the brink of doing so again on Sunday. But don't let that fool you: the Portuguese League is increasingly a two-club affair, and Benfica have played much better than Porto this season, but have got distracted by their long European campaign. Also, Porto have had a very strong organisation for quite a few years, which helps them to keep winning. There is even a saying in Portuguese football to the effect that "any dude can win the title with Porto".
I know that after José Mourinho and, to a lesser extent, Villas-Boas the hiring of a Porto manager sounds too tempting to refuse, but, believe you me, Pereira is not in any way in the same class. I don't mean he is a bad coach - far from it - I just don't think he has the personality or leadership qualities required. He looks and sounds too drab, even diffident. Furthermore, he has no real expericence of the transfer market, as the Porto Board and Director of Football work it for him.
100 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:16:14
That'll do for me...Pereira In!!!!!!!
101 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:23:09
102 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:13:50
`Having taken soundings from our loyal fans,it is clear that the consensus is to disagree on the man I should appoint.
Accordingly,I have decided to go for someone who lives locally,knows all about our great club,has just won a European throphy and whose appointment is guaranteed to unite the fan base.
Evertonians all,I give you...........
RAFA BENITEZ !
103 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:35:32
104 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:28:43
105 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:43:17
106 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:51:10
He`s appointed Roly Howard !
107 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:36:22
He has actually won something that David Moyes couldn't do in triple the time with triple the transfer funds and triple the wage bill. Yeah, that Martinez is really rubbish isn't he... that's why Liverpool wanted him... as did Villa. And also Whealen, the chairman, says he would keep Martinez for life. People who study the game can see past being relegated.
108 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:53:49
None of these potential candidates seem to be really firing up the imagination. Lennon currently the bookies favourite...uuurghhh.
109 Posted 16/05/2013 at 17:00:20
110 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:57:07
Porto have consistently sold their best players year after year for many years now. Before Falcao and Hulk you had the sales of the likes of Deco, Ricardo Carvalho, Lisandro Lopez and Lucho Gonzalez (who has since returned to the club). And Hulk was still there last season. But, while selling, Porto have also kept up their signing of fine footballing talent, and in recent seasons have added people like Joao Moutinho, Jackson Martinez and James Rodriguez to their squad, So that is not, in my view, really an explanation for their, mostly, lack-lustre performances over the past couple of seasons.
Last season they even failed to qualify from the group stages of the Champions League, something which they usually do, and this season were knocked out by Malaga in the last sixteen. Not very impressive, I'd say.
111 Posted 16/05/2013 at 17:04:36
112 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:56:40
You have been nothing if not consistent and persistent about Pereira. What I would say is Porto turn over manager faster than Chelsea! In that contex he's lasted longer than most in recent years.
I'm not sure how important charisma is in making a team succesful. As long as he communicates with the players effectively I wouldn't be too concerned.
I've watched some press conferences and ok he was speaking Portuguese but I can think of plenty of premiership managers with less charisma.
I suppose we're not going to find a manager who is massively outstanding and who is not wanted by someone else.
Thanks to the ToffeeWeb pole we are at least in a position to know that some of the awful choices which would have sent us in to dispair (e.g. Mark Hughes) haven't registered on the scale thank God!
At the end of the day if we do get a second vote and somehow get it to BK we will have had our say! What more can a poor fan do except roll with it!
113 Posted 16/05/2013 at 17:18:42
I'm sure that if the Porto chairman still had any belief in Pereira, he would have offered him a new contract a long time ago.
But you're right! What can a poor fan do?
114 Posted 16/05/2013 at 18:58:24
115 Posted 17/05/2013 at 00:09:52
On the poll I originally voted Laudrup, but he is clear in not wanting it.
Martinez would maybe work out
But of this current list, I feel EFC should seriously be trying to ascertain if Pereira would be interested in the role.
If he says he wants to manage in England, I would guess he is keeping tabs on the Chelsea, Man City situation.
If EFC make an approach, it needs to be carefully timed, but I say go for it.
116 Posted 17/05/2013 at 14:17:19
I have been reading many articles in Vitor Pereira, he has an impressive CV, a great work ethic, and even better, he is out of contract in the summer, this is a great opportunity to get a great tactically astute European manager, and developing youth players is extremely important for EFC.
I think he fits the Everton mould just right, and he has my vote, Martinez is the most baffling one for me: the man has consistently fought relegation, and now Wigan are relegated — when have you ever heard of a manager in charge of a relegated side coming back to the Premier League with a Top 6 consistent side like Everton??? CRAZY!!!!!. If we get Martinez, I will seriously be livid.
Come on BK, lets go get Pereira, hopefully you already are!!!.
117 Posted 17/05/2013 at 16:38:58
Gus Poyet for me.
118 Posted 17/05/2013 at 18:13:14
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1 Posted 15/05/2013 at 21:29:56
Pereira it is for me then