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Pienaar plays in Spurs friendly
The South African was booed by the Spurs faithful according to accounts, no doubt a consequence of his stated desire to return to Goodison and his praise for Chelsea on Twitter when they won the Champions League in May, a result that denied Tottenham a place in that competition next season.
The Daily Post report, though, that negotiations over a fee for the midfielder continue at boardroom level but a deal is not as imminent as previously believed.
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2 Posted 18/07/2012 at 20:36:02
3 Posted 18/07/2012 at 20:48:27
4 Posted 18/07/2012 at 20:52:50
5 Posted 18/07/2012 at 20:54:47
6 Posted 18/07/2012 at 21:00:06
7 Posted 18/07/2012 at 21:00:40
It would seem the odd one out is where is Mr Yobo?
8 Posted 18/07/2012 at 21:15:14
9 Posted 18/07/2012 at 21:19:27
10 Posted 19/07/2012 at 00:08:33
11 Posted 19/07/2012 at 04:54:08
12 Posted 19/07/2012 at 05:54:59
13 Posted 19/07/2012 at 06:17:47
Pienaar does not love Everton – he loves the MONEY.
14 Posted 19/07/2012 at 06:49:02
You contradict yourself in your own post mate. Try again. Which is it? Does Pienaar love the money and therefore demanded to move, meaning the Manager and Board did the best they could by selling him for something? Or is it stupid to say "he wanted to go and we had to sell him"?
Pick your argument; which do you believe?
If it is the way you end your post, that Pienaar just loves the money, which is true for just about every human being by the way, then the Manager did the best he could to sell him for something knowing we couldn't match his wage demands. Or is that too much sense for you to comprehend?
15 Posted 19/07/2012 at 07:11:40
I'm surprised that Pienaar was anywhere near that game last night. If he is not in AVB plans, why is he even bothering to play him? He should be training with the youth team, if anything.
As you pointed out, Mark, we just love dithering. When other clubs target, they offer a price and commence contract talks with the players' agent. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't make a return.
By the way David (668) any need for personal insults? Peter was only pointing out that Pienaar hardly left the club in a blaze of glory in 2011 did he? No guarantee of first team football and as his experience has shown, I dont think he started a first team game in the Premier League whilst he was at Spurs... hardly left us to further his career, has he?
16 Posted 19/07/2012 at 07:45:32
17 Posted 19/07/2012 at 08:08:25
18 Posted 19/07/2012 at 08:16:13
19 Posted 19/07/2012 at 08:18:33
20 Posted 19/07/2012 at 08:21:05
21 Posted 19/07/2012 at 08:28:10
You don't get that with us Steven, come home.
22 Posted 19/07/2012 at 08:28:08
24 Posted 19/07/2012 at 08:42:38
25 Posted 19/07/2012 at 09:06:35
1. Spurs saying to Everton, pay up or he stays with us, or
2. Spurs saying to Pienaar drop your wage demands / don't try and get a pay off from us and sign for Everton or you can rot in the reserves.
One thing I don't get about these ITKs is why they state with such authority that they know. They may know of interest from clubs in players but anyone who's actually involved in a deal isn't going to be putting it all over twitter. It's like being at school and some kid saying 'I've got a secret, I've got a secret ner ner ner ner ner. Does anyone want to know my secret? I'll tell you if you be my friend and give me lots of attention.'
I remember hearing from a physio who was sorting my back out at the time that her mate was one of the Everton physios who said Steven Taylor was booked in for a medical. Obviously he never signed and I don't know whether he even had a medical. If only I'd known about twitter at the time, I could have been one of these ITKs and had lots friends!
26 Posted 19/07/2012 at 09:25:45
28 Posted 19/07/2012 at 09:47:22
Old Bill wont make the same mistake he made last summer by telling people that we must sell first! However, nothing at all has changed, so there is no money!!!
Nobody should worry, it will come out sooner or later that there are three interested parties and talks are on-going! Nottingham Forest have been sold, so someone please tell me why hasnt Everton!
29 Posted 19/07/2012 at 09:53:54
30 Posted 19/07/2012 at 09:50:01
31 Posted 19/07/2012 at 09:55:14
32 Posted 19/07/2012 at 10:00:04
33 Posted 19/07/2012 at 09:53:22
An average ageing player who lacks any redeeming features as a human being. He is not the Messiah... he's a very...
34 Posted 19/07/2012 at 10:05:04
How do you know what Pienaar demanded? See my point above on buying him back for more than we sold him. The reason we've been able to get such high fees for players such as Lescott is because we tied them to long contracts which the purchaser needs to buy out.
I'm sure the decision will be a simple one from Everton. Is he worth the transfer fee & wages relative to our overall budget and needs for the squad? If not, then we move on.
35 Posted 19/07/2012 at 10:26:12
36 Posted 19/07/2012 at 10:48:59
I hate the way Everton do business. Pienaar is wanted, he is needed... buy the lad now.
Also, people coming on here saying don't spend the money on a 30-year-old – are you mad? He is in his prime: 4 years left in him! Imagine if Pirlo or Seedorf played in this country, they would be put out to pasture by people on here who think 30 is the next 50.
I just hope that this season the board are forced out of this club and it is sold. Leeds Utd are getting bought now before us... I hope as fans we slaughter Kenwright and his cronies.
37 Posted 19/07/2012 at 11:37:25
38 Posted 19/07/2012 at 11:50:27
@Peter. INTERESTING points. All of which are NEGATIVE and it seems you have it in for the CLUB. And is 'grubbing' a WORD?
39 Posted 19/07/2012 at 12:14:08
People forget that on deadline day when we signed him back on loan, he was on the bench for Spurs in an evening match.
And since when has "Everton being interested" equated to a "Done deal"?
40 Posted 19/07/2012 at 12:23:30
1. The transfer's not been concluded, and nothing's going to happen imminently.
2. Don't trust any anonymous rumours that you read on twitter or internet forums. People spout, and pass on, an incredible amount of garbage, especially when expectations are high. If anything real is happening, we'll find out about it soon enough from the media and known sources.
41 Posted 19/07/2012 at 13:34:39
42 Posted 19/07/2012 at 14:11:37
Unless AVB has other ideas about Pienaar then Everton may only have another loan in mind considering the money squeeze.
43 Posted 19/07/2012 at 14:20:24
Agree with Nick Wall: all last night proves is that the deal has not yet been concluded. More than likely, the club that is skint (us) is trying to persuade the man who always likes to make profit (Daniel Levy) that they should sell him back to us for around £3M rather than around £5M. I would be a little surprised if this deal does not come off sooner or later but it might depend on how stubborn both sides are.
44 Posted 19/07/2012 at 14:45:29
More questions raised here than answered...
45 Posted 19/07/2012 at 15:46:24
Moyes & Pienaar himself have both stated that they want him back and Spurs have indicated he can go, but unfortunately things do take time, and in some cases things don't go to plan. I wouldn't be surprised if AVB played him in-case the deal back to us fell through for some reason. Like I said before the game gave him an opportunity to see if he would have any sort of future at the club, but also it put him in the shop window for other teams as well.
I actually think everything has been agreed, but the hold up is Everton trying to get the money to pay for the deal. I've got a feeling that this is from the delay of the Yobo deal. I would imagine the money from that will go straight to Spurs, but obviously the Turks aren't playing ball at the moment.
46 Posted 19/07/2012 at 16:08:27
Don't forget – he got offered a new deal and refused to sign it. I would love him back but, if he is hanging on for a better deal, then no thanks. I bet if someone comes in with a better deal, he will be off like a shot...
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47 Posted 19/07/2012 at 16:37:13
But he has taught me something: 'money-grubbing' IS the correct term (ref: Cambridge Dictionary Online). It seems to be favoured over the alternative (and I thought much more common) 'money-grabbing'.
48 Posted 19/07/2012 at 17:30:16
49 Posted 19/07/2012 at 17:32:19
We all potentially have something wrong with our vowels.
50 Posted 19/07/2012 at 17:43:06
51 Posted 19/07/2012 at 19:41:32
We can all see the sense of bringing him back given his performances as an Everton player and the relative wealth of alternatives for AVB, but all we have recently (that I am aware of) is the player saying he would be talking to AVB about his likely involvement at Spurs and David Moyes saying as far as he was concerned Pienaar was chomping at the bit to come back and he expected the deal to be done in short order (so much for playing our cards close to our chest).
The Spurs fans could easily have been booing him for the Chelsea congrats which to them must surely be a much more heinous 'crime' than wanting to spend your best years actually appearing on the pitch.
Pienaar is wanted here and I expect it will happen eventually. My concerns are that we will have to pay more than we can really afford to get him and that it could all still go 'pear shaped' if he is convicted of assault in South Africa. The thought that there may be another club interested in him (Michael Brooks #687) worries me greatly!
52 Posted 19/07/2012 at 20:07:39
Peter (#691) — do you really think Baines wants to stay?
And for my bit, I would not buy anything that may or may not be spending time out of the country to stand trial for an assault charge until the matter is concluded one way or another. That is just sensible isn't it!!!
53 Posted 19/07/2012 at 20:59:19
54 Posted 20/07/2012 at 00:35:09
55 Posted 20/07/2012 at 05:30:55
56 Posted 20/07/2012 at 05:36:59
@ Vinny Garstrokes # 772 No I dont know if Baines wants to stay or not do you? But my comment still stands if we sell Baines to buy Pienaar, a pair who are at their most effective playing together, then that is insanity.
57 Posted 20/07/2012 at 07:05:09
58 Posted 20/07/2012 at 08:47:14
Bills priority is paying Barclays a chunk back that they demanded and even considering we have let 6 payers leave and have sold 3 others he is hoping we can get down to 26 fit players and that should do the first team and rezzies.
I am sure when Bill played in the Zingari there was only one sub allowed so why do we need more...
Meanwhile, that lot over the park who spent £120 million last year already have a pot of about £30 mill to go on this season's failures..
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1 Posted 18/07/2012 at 20:26:34