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Fifa to decide on Odjidja-Ofoe loan
Everton hope to add a third Belgium international to their ranks on Wednesday, providing Fifa give permission for Vadis Odjidja-Ofoe to move to Goodison Park.David Moyes's side agreed a season-long loan for the Club Brugge central midfielder on transfer deadline day, but the deal was not finalised before the 11pm cut-off point. Everton require ratification from world football's governing body but are hopeful, with both the English and Belgian football associations having given their approval, of receiving permission to sign the 23-year-old.
Odjidja-Ofoe, who will cost a £1m loan fee, would be Everton's third Belgian recruit following Marouane Fellaini and the recent £5.3m signing from Olympiakos, Kevin Mirallas. He would also be Moyes's sixth summer signing after the arrivals of Steven Naismith, Steven Pienaar, Mirallas, Bryan Oviedo and the 17-year-old winger from Kilmarnock, Matthew Kennedy.
The Everton manager's options in central midfield are limited at present, with Fellaini starting the season in a more advanced role and Darron Gibson suffering a thigh injury in Saturday's defeat at West Bromwich Albion. Odjidja-Ofoe was one of three targets Moyes pursued on deadline day; the other two, Steven Nzonzi and Michael Essien, joined Stoke City and Real Madrid respectively.
Fifa's decision on Odjidja-Ofoe, who started his career with Anderlecht and had a brief spell at Hamburg before joining Club Brugge, may determine whether Moyes sends Ross Barkley on loan to give the talented teenager more regular first team football.
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2 Posted 04/09/2012 at 18:48:54
I can see him slotting right into the team making us a very strong unit....
3 Posted 04/09/2012 at 19:06:42
4 Posted 04/09/2012 at 19:11:10
5 Posted 04/09/2012 at 20:01:29
6 Posted 04/09/2012 at 20:09:35
7 Posted 04/09/2012 at 20:14:34
8 Posted 04/09/2012 at 20:38:50
9 Posted 04/09/2012 at 20:54:34
"Mirallas is a good player, who played a lot in France. He plays a bit like Cristiano Ronaldo. But got to say honestly....Vadis..that's another level. He is a fantastic midfield player!! In my opinion, after Hazard, one of the best in Belgium.
Technically very strong, good 'play insight' and a very good pass in the legs."
....on top of the You Tube reel (I know, I know), I'm really quite excited about this lad
10 Posted 04/09/2012 at 21:14:00
11 Posted 04/09/2012 at 21:16:02
12 Posted 04/09/2012 at 21:58:55
I read somewhere that we have the right to buy.. Can anyone confirm if that is the exclusive right and, that the figure has been set, and what that figure is?
13 Posted 05/09/2012 at 00:12:43
Is it fair to assume that the lad wasn't interested in signing an extension to his contract at Bruges so they are just making sure they get a reasonable amount of money for him?
Hopefully, for us and the player, it is just a case of being in the right place at the right time.
14 Posted 05/09/2012 at 01:20:47
Exhibit A - Banega (the one time we got a work permit!), B - Victor Obinna, C - er, Muller........
Vintage EFC and I'm preparing myself for Jim White's "Deal Not Done!" face on SSN.
15 Posted 05/09/2012 at 02:14:09
16 Posted 05/09/2012 at 07:07:14
17 Posted 05/09/2012 at 08:01:05
If nothing else it prolongs the 'will he, won't he' excitement of the transfer window. If it doesn't go through we could be set for alot of Neville in midfield so fingers crossed!
18 Posted 05/09/2012 at 08:59:54
19 Posted 05/09/2012 at 09:17:48
20 Posted 05/09/2012 at 11:01:52
Then again, Essien, who is one of my favourite players has been loaned out too, albeit to Real Madrid.
21 Posted 05/09/2012 at 11:05:21
22 Posted 05/09/2012 at 11:24:30
23 Posted 05/09/2012 at 15:53:07
24 Posted 05/09/2012 at 16:21:21
Could be a good 'un... or a touch of the Roystons.
25 Posted 05/09/2012 at 16:33:25
26 Posted 05/09/2012 at 16:38:44
27 Posted 05/09/2012 at 17:09:21
28 Posted 05/09/2012 at 17:20:25
Get your finger out, Sepp.
29 Posted 05/09/2012 at 17:37:51
30 Posted 05/09/2012 at 18:06:54
I'm getting a bad feeling about this, I think he could have been a gem...
31 Posted 05/09/2012 at 18:16:32
Elstone: "Sorry did you just wink?"
Sepp: "WINK!!? I most certainly did NOT wink, I had a bit of grit in my eye"
(just give him his bung ffs!)
32 Posted 05/09/2012 at 18:25:43
Especially with FIFA involved - they hate England....
33 Posted 05/09/2012 at 18:39:34
ps - my broadband router is fooked and its going to take Virgin many a day to sort it out so probably adios for a bit.
Keep up the good work.
34 Posted 05/09/2012 at 20:20:14
35 Posted 05/09/2012 at 20:22:58
If this falls through then together with Gibson's injury I reckon we could be looking pretty short in the middle in the park. Think he might have to bring Fella back which is a shame given how effective he has been (last game aside).
36 Posted 05/09/2012 at 21:17:03
37 Posted 05/09/2012 at 21:21:51
38 Posted 05/09/2012 at 23:11:12
Everyone's transfer window just closed, not just ours. FIFA will get to it.
39 Posted 06/09/2012 at 01:39:00
Having said that, Moyes (rightly or wrongly) very rarely sticks new signings straight into the team, so if Gibson is crocked, expect to see more of Captain Pip in the middle of the park. That'll cheer some of you up I'm sure!
40 Posted 06/09/2012 at 07:24:21
41 Posted 06/09/2012 at 07:52:27
Think about this for an alternative reality. We have lttle money so DM has a list of the people he wants to get on loan, free transfer or on the cheap. He has them listed in proiority and like all clubs throughout Europe he has to wait on players being sold and bought to see which of his preferred targets are going to be available. It's like vertical dominos and they don't start to fall until right at the end of the transfer window. Not only Everton but every club in Europe bar the very rich. What this results in is a very late deal to get this lad from Belgium (he was down the priority list as he should be) and the paperwork going in apparently late. Nothing to do with incompetence at EFC, no different to many other deals throughout Europe and no conspiracy needed. They are not paid to get transfer deals done, doing transfer deals costs them money which they have very little of.
42 Posted 06/09/2012 at 08:13:40
43 Posted 06/09/2012 at 08:49:58
As for the rest, yes I do understand how it works I just wouldn't be surprised if there's a cock up at the bottom of this seeming delay. Both in terms of player contract management and of the Club in general, the incumbents do not exactly shine.
I hope I'm wrong on this one as we clearly need the player to give cover in midfield.
44 Posted 06/09/2012 at 09:26:17
45 Posted 06/09/2012 at 09:35:10
Our club and management isn't perfect, mistakes have been made, but trying to find fault in everything that doesn't go our way is a bit ridiculous.
I wonder why owners/investors bother getting involved in clubs these days, they are on a hiding to nothing and a lot of them end up losing money.
46 Posted 06/09/2012 at 14:35:47
Wonder if the OS has an update - hang about...nope, latest news is Distin encouraged. That's all all right, then
47 Posted 06/09/2012 at 15:04:30
I think that a number of us on here feel that the way Everton do things sometimes gives the impression of amateur hour.
I could cite a number of things but to take one example of contracts and transfers: what about the Gosling debacle?
The reason people might feel frustrated at this one is that he is clearly a good player and we would like to have him. But if we really wanted him why didn't we do things sooner? Did it really all have to be left to the last minute to the point that we may not get him owing to a FIFA ruling?
And as more time elapses on we begin to suspect that that answer will be in the negative. Hopefully there are amateur hour practitioners in FIFA too, and it is just a matter of them getting around to it and ratifying the decision.
48 Posted 06/09/2012 at 15:29:37
49 Posted 06/09/2012 at 15:59:47
I get annoyed with the moaning and negativity of many Toffeeweb posters, and certainly don't count myself in that camp, but its hard to argue with this statement from Tony. We've simply seen things go wrong so many times not to be cynical and sceptical about a situation like this.
I've not seen him play, but what little evidence I can gather about him is very encouraging.
50 Posted 06/09/2012 at 16:28:50
why didn't we do it earlier? Well I would guess because he wasn't higher up the list of people we wanted.
We were waiting till fairly late in the window on that guy that ended up choosing to go to AC Milan instead. Then apparently we were also trying for Essien and N'Zonzi, and maybe Butland too. They didn't come off. We looked at others.
I really fail to see why there is the accusation that the club have not acted properly in this case. There is no evidence whatsoever.
51 Posted 06/09/2012 at 16:27:41
52 Posted 06/09/2012 at 15:58:56
Already misinformation / misinterpretation is in danger of clouding this issue further, and the lack of official progress reports / updates seems counter-productive in so much as it stokes peoples 'paranoia'.
I have seen it 'reported' that DM went to London to attend a work permit hearing for Odjidja-Ofoe. A work-permit hearing for an EU citizen???? Shome mishtake, shurely?
It seems more likely that Odjidja-Ofoe was low down on our shopping list, with our limited pot of money being ring-fenced for some other targets and Fulham already courting him. Late last Friday, when other attempts have come to nothing (and his proposed move to Fulham has fallen through) we have opportunistically stepped in.
Obviously the available time would have been limited, and that is nobody's fault, so we have pushed something through in an attempt to get the deal done.
What irritates is the silence since, with expected timelines being exceeded with no attempt at explanation. Could it possibly hurt anyone to say, "Nothing has changed, still just waiting for FIFA to get around to it. Indications are good.", or "There are some issues which have slowed up the process."
53 Posted 06/09/2012 at 16:56:52
What's so bloody difficult about a statement re the situation?
OS still reporting Distin as encouraged, though
54 Posted 06/09/2012 at 17:14:34
55 Posted 06/09/2012 at 17:07:01
He was in London for Bryan Oviedo's work permit hearing. As far as I am aware thats was what was correctly reported on the day.
Otherwise I agree with your post.
Their silence is so frustrating and doesn't make any sense!!!
56 Posted 06/09/2012 at 18:08:18
I am pretty sure we only started negotiating this deal late on Friday, with the manager's trip to London perhaps even facilitating a detour to meet with the player and his agent once Fulham were failing in their bid.
The lack of updates since Monday is irritating, especially since it encourages uninformed speculation to replace the facts
57 Posted 06/09/2012 at 18:17:43
A little 'nothing ratified yet but talks ongoing' would be nice but they give us nothing!
58 Posted 06/09/2012 at 19:14:52
59 Posted 06/09/2012 at 19:25:21
60 Posted 06/09/2012 at 19:22:13
61 Posted 06/09/2012 at 18:54:16
EFC blew it, I think.
Excusing them for late paperwork is dumb whether or not a manager has to deal with many variables beyond his control on the last day, or not. Managers must decide which players they want and prioritize the order they are to be hired. Each acquisition scenario requires its own budget, price, and timeline-so each is given a drop-dead time to bid (with a 'good till' time to accept or reject).
If we believe Moyes's last day quandary to have been Essien; Nzonzi; Quo Vadis; and in this order-all he needed was a reliable watch to end each bid and move to his next option and scenario.
EFC's back office brains, skills, and business knowledge is like or worse than most in EPL — i.e. atrocious! So managers typically do it all themselves, keeping MUM to avoid showing their hand or queering a deal.
Finally the FIFA god will decide -probably after the WCQs next week!
62 Posted 06/09/2012 at 19:40:11
63 Posted 06/09/2012 at 20:03:51
I know this is very unfair, but mindful of DK and the comments made at that time, the very idea that some of the bones working in our club might have been hastening to implement a “Plan C”, is one of the funniest things I have seen on Toffeeweb for some time.
64 Posted 06/09/2012 at 20:23:49
To the media and to those on ToffeeWeb - STOP speculating is the answer. Why the hell should Everton comment in these circumstances? Silence is golden, and maybe delays other clubs who may be interested from acting. When the deal is done, we will get to know
65 Posted 06/09/2012 at 20:53:35
66 Posted 06/09/2012 at 20:53:09
It seems to be what's dividing us. I will come back on here when it's fallen through and take my medicine, but I'm suspecting not!
67 Posted 06/09/2012 at 21:17:59
Stop speculating on things Evertonia?
Can't be done
But I like your "you gotta know when to fold `em..." attitude
68 Posted 06/09/2012 at 21:46:59
If the club are perfectly happy to trumpet signings as positive news and a reason to be pleased, then they also have some responsibility to manage the expectations they have raised.
69 Posted 06/09/2012 at 21:59:28
Perhaps you've seen something I ain't but I don't recall the club trumpeting this "signing"?
70 Posted 06/09/2012 at 22:14:47
"Everton are poised to make a sixth and final summer signing after concluding an agreement to bring Belgian international Vadis Odjidja-Ofoe to Goodison Park.
The deal was agreed immediately prior to Friday's 11pm transfer deadline with paperwork submitted to the Premier League and Football Association.
The transfer now needs to be rubber stamped by football's governing body FIFA – a process which will take place early next week."
You don't think I just make things up do you! ;)
71 Posted 06/09/2012 at 22:25:07
Er....em..ok I'll give you that one.
PS. I don't think you make this stuff up....hence I'm taking your word & have'nt checked it out the OS
72 Posted 06/09/2012 at 22:42:51
73 Posted 06/09/2012 at 23:09:03
Maybe the club should be honest and just come out and now say "The transfer now needs to be rubber stamped by football's governing body FIFA – a process which will take place early next week - OR POSSIBLY LATER."
74 Posted 07/09/2012 at 10:17:51
Hard to believe it's a week today since the deal was done so sounds to me like someone who needs to sign something is away on leave or on international duty.
75 Posted 07/09/2012 at 11:39:49
76 Posted 07/09/2012 at 11:44:00
77 Posted 07/09/2012 at 11:51:47
78 Posted 07/09/2012 at 12:20:56
79 Posted 07/09/2012 at 11:45:23
80 Posted 07/09/2012 at 13:09:57
81 Posted 07/09/2012 at 13:22:48
OS latest is Distin backs Baines - that's good
(hoping that the long-held Scouse proposition of "crying it home" works)
82 Posted 07/09/2012 at 14:06:38
83 Posted 07/09/2012 at 14:48:30
84 Posted 07/09/2012 at 15:20:42
The last thing on Club Brugge's website was:
Football's governing body FIFA hasn't made a definitive decision concerning the late loan swoop by Everton FC to land Club's Vadis Odjidja.
It may take until Wednesday before FIFA can reach a decision. Pending that decision, Vadis enters an individual training program in close consultation with Club's sports staff.
86 Posted 07/09/2012 at 16:03:46
87 Posted 07/09/2012 at 16:06:38
There must have been some FIFA contact by now which neither club are sharing, now 5pm Swiss time and I suspect all have gone home , so we'll not find out till next Monday or Wednesday or ....
88 Posted 07/09/2012 at 17:17:01
The powers-that-be at Everton couldn''t maintain an erection
89 Posted 07/09/2012 at 17:33:31
Why just once cant we have a loan move for a foreign national go through with no hitches?
Oh yeah, we have had plenty over the Moyes/Kenwright era. Damn!!!
90 Posted 07/09/2012 at 17:40:10
Buggar!!!
91 Posted 07/09/2012 at 17:19:50
Of course it's not a plot, but it is inconsiderate at best, and disrespectful at worst.
The club knows that supporters are interested in new signings (and all the other inconsequential stuff that would leave an outsider cold) and are happy to make announcements on the OS when it suits.
When information they provide proves to be incorrect / superseded (for instance, ratification expected early next week, or Wednesday at the latest) , then I would expect them to provide follow-up information to keep their fans (who else visits the OS) in the loop as a simple matter of courtesy.
The only exceptions would be if it was important that the information remain secret, but how can that apply to this situation.
Life goes on regardless I know, but I still don't understand why nothing more has been said on this subject.
92 Posted 07/09/2012 at 17:48:24
Christ knows what's going on but I hope we get the lad boxed otherwise we will be short in midfield. It's okay getting dollar for Rodwell but if fit he would have been playing a lot of football.
I'm also worried, thus far, about Gibsons durability.
If we don't get him boxed then people are gonna go into Phil Neville midfield meltdown. Well sometimes we're just gonna have to do it. It's not like Moyes thinks it's ideal, in Gibbo & with this deal, he is trying to get lads who can screen the back 4 AND play.
Heitinga can play there as well if Neville is doing right back. Ossie can play there as well so we will be okay but, it stretches the squad. If there's no Gibbo & Ossie's in there with Neville/Heitinga, who plays right? Coleman? Average, no more. Will give you everything he has mind.
For example, l am not expecting big things from Naismith. Only cos after 2 bad knee injuries this is his first season in the Prem. Big jump & he may need a few months to adjust, get fit, deal with the pace of the league. He may well fly out of the traps but.... cruciates are difficult.
For example it took Arteta and Jag about a year to get back to what they were, even after they got fit for selection again. So I could understand Naismith having a quiet few months.
We have Mirallas as well so that's good and we need him to come in and get his head round it quick.
People like Ossie and Neville get murdered on here.... but we are gonna be relying heavily on these seldom injured senior pros this year, especially if this deal doesn't come off.
93 Posted 07/09/2012 at 18:32:15
94 Posted 07/09/2012 at 18:36:05
95 Posted 07/09/2012 at 18:31:49
96 Posted 07/09/2012 at 18:47:05
we call it "having previous" in the Met
97 Posted 07/09/2012 at 18:41:30
98 Posted 07/09/2012 at 18:53:47
Our boys in blue on the pitch and our much loved and respected board currently have differing varients of "form".
99 Posted 07/09/2012 at 18:42:51
Just hope that Gibson manages to stay fit. While Gibson is unfit Felli has to drop back, 5 man midfield of..
Naismith Osman Fellani Pienaar Mirallas ...
100 Posted 07/09/2012 at 20:08:15
101 Posted 07/09/2012 at 20:26:58
102 Posted 07/09/2012 at 20:32:48
Today was Club Brugge and Everton FC FIFA informed that the temporary transfer of Vadis Odjidja not continue. The request by the English Football Association to the Belgian Football Association was too late.
103 Posted 07/09/2012 at 20:39:47
104 Posted 07/09/2012 at 20:40:45
Do you have a link
105 Posted 07/09/2012 at 20:38:47
106 Posted 07/09/2012 at 20:41:31
107 Posted 07/09/2012 at 21:02:28
108 Posted 07/09/2012 at 21:02:42
http://clubbrugge.be/en/news
109 Posted 07/09/2012 at 21:09:18
http://clubbrugge.be/nl/nieuws/7842/vadis-blijft-bij-club-brugge
What's Flemish for bollocks?
110 Posted 07/09/2012 at 21:12:56
According to some fellow poster we are only customers, really
111 Posted 07/09/2012 at 21:10:12
112 Posted 07/09/2012 at 21:13:25
113 Posted 07/09/2012 at 21:22:18
114 Posted 07/09/2012 at 21:20:38
115 Posted 07/09/2012 at 21:20:51
Worst part is, the world's been alerted to the lad and his availablity; if only we had the sense to do a deal for January, by which time all this might have been reported on EvertonFC.com
116 Posted 07/09/2012 at 21:37:55
Can't wait to buy FIFA 13 though.
117 Posted 07/09/2012 at 21:44:06
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118 Posted 07/09/2012 at 22:22:25
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1 Posted 04/09/2012 at 18:07:49
Why were we not allowed that grace as well ? or is a loan different ?