Leeds police clash with Everton fans

Can be re-worded "Everton fans clash with Leeds police".

Are Everton fans proud of the minority (50 out of 5,000) heaping abuse at bobbies who had nothing to do with Hillsbrough?

Maybe they need to ban some of their own clueless idiots from policing football matches?

Doesn't look like they have learnt much since 1989 to me.

"Evertonians are better than this, must be the Police's fault" baloney.

If ever there was a time the police would be minding their "P's and Q's" it would be now, particularly with thousands of scousers turning up.

Chanting "murderers" at officers who most of them were probably in short kex at the time is quality stuff.

Absolute pricks - no excuse.

You would have thought they would be on best behaviour at those demonstrations in the city of London a few years ago as there was tv and CCTV everywhere, but it still didn't stop one of them carrying out an unprovoked attack on that newspaper seller walking past on his way home that led to him dying ten minutes later.

And because the slime all who did it got off, despite having been up on violence charges before ( which he sidestepped investigation by transferring forces or jobs ) most of them know they can do whatever they like.

First tactic is always to smear the other party, whether it be football fans at Hillsborough, an unarmed ' suspicious looking ' Brazilian man minding his own business and catching a tube train who they shot dead in South London when he had his hands up, or a few Evertonians who have the nerve to complain about being crushed into some stairs.

I've been to enough away games to see we've as many ne'er do wells as anyone else, my brother and I intervened at Villa years ago as 4 of "ours" were kicking the shit out of a lone Villa kid.

My brother had an Everton scarf on and we've got scouse accents you could cut with a knife – but they turned on us!

I'm a boxer and my brother a 3rd Dan Black belt in Ju Jitsu and we're not small men so it didn't last long, but my point is mobs of lads are twats and if this lot at Leeds were so intimidated, how come they started chanting "murderers"?

Doesn't add up.

And I am not silly enough to think that all Evertonians are perfect, because that's not the case. However, I have very little trust in the Police and by trying to get people banned, I would suggest that even if 'murderers' was chanted, they are over-reacting which in turn leads me to think they are smearing our fans to mask their own failings.

Crap night all in all.

Not really a need to put out banning orders against fans I would say.

But, at the same time, the officers at the game should be professional enough to rise above such chants/comments.

Mike Green, I'd get down the hospital mate agreeing with me twice is a clear sign of insanity.

Hmmmmmm..... actually Barry, just keep on as you are, nice and sensible does it..... :D

What I will say though, is that history and my own experience, says to me that a uniform doesn't necessarily mean the truth. Just as YouTube doesn't convey the whole story.

People with authority will, eventually, abuse it. Human nature. We're a virus with shoes.

I saw two smoke bombs and we clearly don't have the throwing skills of our European neighbours. Nice blue colour smoke but not nice to choke on.

I wouldn't say we as a whole are any worse than any other teams supporters (except maybe Fulham, they are just too nice!) but the misdirected bile certainly comes easy at times.

Didn't see the trouble at the end so can't comment on that otherwise to say when I left they wished me a good evening and a safe journey. (which freaked me out about a bit!

I know we don't like Diouf much but to start shouting Nigger and Black Bastard...well that stuff belongs across the park. (It was one guy and he got a right telling off).

Short of it.....we are not ALL pricks and neither are the Police.

I, along with at least four to five hundred Evertonians, missed the first 15 minutes of the game and quite rightly many were anoyed at the ridiculous situation outside... but let me make this perfectly clear: in no way were West Yorkshire police officers to blame for this. Maybe their Commander for not putting the kick-off time back, but to blame the troops in uniform with the vile abuse they received is ridiculous and embarrassing; exactly what did these idiots want them to do, open the gates?!?

Merseyside Police Football Intelligence Unit were also there, so are these clowns going to blame them as well? To make matters worse, angry at our performance, lots of Evertonians started singing "Yorkshire Police, Murderers" in the second half and one or two 'stuck in the 70s' idiots set off a couple of smoke bombs.

In my opinion – and I've watched the blues at Elland Road many times – the problem is down to Leeds United by housing the away support in the West Stand next to the Leeds suporters. This is the first time I can remember where the away sectiont at Elland Road is situated in what was their main stand, I can understand why, it is only a short walk out the ground to the stairs and the coach park which makes the police job not too dificult. Before, the away support would be housed behind the goal at the Elland Road end; as I said, this is a Leeds United and a Health and Safety issue as clearly the old West Stand with its one exit in and out just can't cope with a big cup game were the away support is 5,000.

John #554 and Matthew #658

I agree with you as well even though your views conflict with Karl. I guess the answer then must be to:

(1) If you're representing the Mighty Blues, don't act like a dickhead or go across the park instead to watch that shower.

(2) Self-policing by fans. At the end of the day, bell-end behaviour only tars us all with the "typical scouser" brush and leads to stereotyping and prejudice which I loathe (with the exception of my views on the police!!).

Another crusade maybe to prove their innocence for the Blue Union In the absence of all the planned activity they promised their delusional supporters.

Where have they gone? I hope they have fucked off for good they are an embarrassment to themselves.