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Blues bounce back after early shock
Everton 3 - 1 Southampton
Everton were looking to get back to normal service after Tuesday's 'blip' at Leeds, with the full compliment of established first-teamers returning, except for the very surprising inclusion of Heitinga in place of Distin, who was on the bench. For Southampton, no Daniel Fox, once of this parish.Everton put in a nice early attack with Baines crossing for Jelavic. But Southampton didn't look too fazed and Ramirez scored with frustrating simplicity from their first corner in the 6th minute, with Howard making a pathetic attempt at intercepting the cross that was only 2 yards in front of his line. Shocking goalkeeping!
It was certainly not the start everyone had been expecting, and giving up the all-important first goal saw what confidence they might have started with evaporate in the warm September sun. Rodriguez then broke down the right and could have made it worse but drove wide with only Howard to beat. It looked like Everton should have had a penalty when Jelavic was chopped down but Richardson had got the ball away from him legally.
Jelavic came close to scoring with a great looping header that was clawed away from the angle, Fellaini following up could not force it in.
The attacks were getting better from Everton and on 25 mins the got the reward with an equalizer from Osman who lashed a loose ball gleefully into the top corner of the Gwladys Street net after Mirallas's hard cross gave Jelavic a difficult task but the ball fell in open play with Osman following in perfectly.
Jelavic was going to ground rather frequently and not earning anything from referee. Some wonderful movement from the back, straight through the middle of the park produced a wonderful goal from Nikica Jelavic to put Everton in charge after 32 minutes. Mirallas bought the ball forward with conviction, exchanged short passes with Fellaini, then strode forward and played Jelavic in to the left channel, where the first-touch king had plenty of work to do, control the ball well before placing an excellent shot along the ground and into the far side of the goal.
Confidence restored, and with the Goodison crowd off their backs, Everton started to surge forward in waves. Some scintillating football made those parallels wit Barclona not too far off the mark.
And in the follow-up to one of those attacks, an excellent set-up by Coleman who did brilliantly to dance inside one defender on the sideline, scamper into the area, beat another man and cross superbly right onto Jelavic's head, despite the very narrow angle at the far post. The iceman's header was too powerful for Gazzaniga who could only punch it into the roof of the net, to everyone's delight. 3 nice goals in 15 mins!!
Jelavic could have had his hat-trick but chose to head Mirallas's superb cross back for Fellaini rather than burying it. Some scintillating possession football in the minutes before time was worthy of another goal, Everton winning a couple of corners, and Fellaini almost got it at the end of the half, hitting the bar with a trademark header.
More confident possession play started the second half. But Soton got some of their own and finally put a shot in. Jagielka then had to be alert to deny Lambert. Jelavic won a corner but the training ground routine proved a little too intricate as Baines played it over the byeline.
A Baines corner was just too high for Jelavic. Then a sweeping move, Coleman and Mirallas linking brilliantly down the right, crossing a little deep for Jelavic who controlled it superbly and played it back to Osman whose curling shot seemed destined fopr the corner but went just wide with Gazzaniga scrambling to cover. Fellaini tried to drill one in again after brutishly tossing a defender aside.
Everton seemed to be getting a little bit complacent and almost guilty of letting the red shirts get a little too close to Tim Howard, who now had the sun in his eyes. Fortunately, their final ball was poor enough that it didn't really trouble the Everton defence.
Mirallas sought glory when given time on the ball outside the area but his strong shot was too close to Gazzaniga. Gaston, came very close to getting a goal back, getting behind the Everton defence and clipping the ball past Howard but saw it shepherded past the post by a thankful Jagielka.
David Moyes had gone well past his normal time for the first sub to freshen things up, and his players seemed to be happy with the two-goal lead, which only served to give Southampton hope for a fight. He finally made the switch with 15 mins left, taking off Jelavic for joint leading scorer Anichebe.... soon followed by Oviedo replacing Mirallas, with a strangely hairless Pienaar switching to the right side.
It didn't really have the desired effect, however, as the relaxed controlling football from Everton continued, with Howard having to make a very smart save to keep the score down and retain the prospect of moving up to a heady 2nd place in the Premier League.
Leon Osman was given the honour of crowd appreciation for his contribution in the added 3 mins, replaced by Distin as the Blues played out a pleasing win, despite taking their foot well off the pedal in the second half.
Everton: Howard; Baines, Jagielka, Heitinga, Coleman; Neville, Osman (90+2' Distin), Pienaar, Fellaini; Jelavic (76' Anichebe), Mirallas (80' Oviedo).
Subs: Mucha, Distin, Duffy, Gueye, Vellios.
Southampton: Gazzaniga, Richardson, Fonte, Yoshida, Clyne (81' Reeves), Ramirez, Steven Davis, Ward-Prowse, Lallana (90' Chaplow), Lambert, Rodriguez (81' Mayuka).
Subs: K Davis, Hooiveld, Do Prado, Puncheon.
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2 Posted 29/09/2012 at 17:06:42
3 Posted 29/09/2012 at 17:09:54
4 Posted 29/09/2012 at 17:22:27
5 Posted 29/09/2012 at 17:30:46
6 Posted 29/09/2012 at 17:33:07
Roll on Wigan at the JJB, we've not played too well there in recent years. Look forward to us going and imposing ourselves on what will no doubt be a dodgy pitch.
7 Posted 29/09/2012 at 17:33:30
Still think Moyes shot himself in the foot over the League Cup but fair dos this league form is excellent and he deserves credit for changing things today, getting a result and playing some cracking football.
Really pleased.
8 Posted 29/09/2012 at 17:41:09
9 Posted 29/09/2012 at 17:46:00
10 Posted 29/09/2012 at 17:47:56
11 Posted 29/09/2012 at 17:58:38
12 Posted 29/09/2012 at 17:49:46
13 Posted 29/09/2012 at 18:02:52
14 Posted 29/09/2012 at 18:09:54
4th Nick? I think we can do better than that, but we will have to keep going for the full 90 minutes.
15 Posted 29/09/2012 at 18:18:02
Great result and sitting pretty but it's a long haul and as shown at Leeds we lack in depth. Let's just take it one game at a time but cause for celebration tonight after a comfortable victory.
16 Posted 29/09/2012 at 18:06:58
Anyone who still thinks Howard is a top keeper is deluded, he used to be but the amount of mistakes he's made and goals he's cost us over the past year or so is shocking.
Baines is without doubt he best full back in the league if not the world.Some of his link up with Pienaar was excellent. I wouldn't swap out left side for anyone elses.
I'm really pleased for Coleman, he was motm for me today and deserves a run at right back. Mirallas will become a big player for us once he's been here awhile, not everything he did came off today but I love watching him. He never stops trying things and always wants the ball.
I think Jelavic needs to be told not to work the flanks or come deep for the ball. The fact is he is average outside the box but world class in it. He should do nothing but stay on the sholder of the last defender and just concentrate on putting the ball in the back of the net but most of all stay on his feet and stop diving.
17 Posted 29/09/2012 at 18:17:04
19 Posted 29/09/2012 at 18:31:42
And I disagree about Jelavic. He works tirelessly in pulling defences around and out of position. When I played defence (I know, it was only local league stuff, but nevertheless) the easiest to mark were those who stayed within a few yards of you.
20 Posted 29/09/2012 at 18:23:45
PS. the return of Gibson (for Neville) can only improve an already decent team.
22 Posted 29/09/2012 at 18:39:39
I have no arguments about what Osman done,I seen it the same as you today. I thought he kept things simple and played the right ball (if a little slow sometimes) but he does go missing for large parts of the game.
I was a defender as well and agree, I hated those little shits that wouldn't keep still but I was always playing against 2 strikers so if one went wide there was always someone in the middle to get on the end of things. His movement is great and he must be a nightmare for defenders but if he receives the ball outside the box he can't really do anything with it.
23 Posted 29/09/2012 at 18:58:27
24 Posted 29/09/2012 at 18:52:43
BTW Great win today, some of the football exceptional, and we've got an easy run-in (kiss of death I know, until late November)
25 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:00:30
26 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:09:09
Weird.
Wigan 1-3 Everton next week. Get your bets on.
27 Posted 29/09/2012 at 18:44:21
They're poles apart in as much the type of players they are. Hibbo is the archetypal defender. Old fashioned , has learnt to tackle well and anyone in Europe who has kept Ronaldo (used to be called Sasso) quiet, is a good if not great defender in the true sense of the word.
Now Coleman is of the younger style with the emphasis on attack. So we have a dial M a (for murder) Do we go for the younger and more attacking lad or do we go for the older yet better defender.
The down side for Hibbo is lack of attack however, if you look at last season many fine crosses from the right came from our hibbo and caused damage to opposition defenses.
The problem as I see it for Coleman and I saw the same thing with guys like Arron Lennon and SWP is that all the hard word in the attacking mode is done but the final execution has always left much to be desired. I see this as Colemans main problem.
Jesus, if he could get this right and a partnership developed down the right with Mirallas, then with Gibson (and don't forget he's as new as two or three of them) in the centre we could be looking at a potential yearly top four side.
Once that happens then the upward spiral of success will have been selected by the Everton management.
I'll have some of that please.....
28 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:17:28
29 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:20:16
We are 2nd in the league and know one will shift us this week, I think.
COYB
30 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:16:45
The opponent was very lightweight, the central midfield not the battle many games seem to be. It suited Osmans style and good for him. Not sure about Coleman, for me he seemed to give the ball away a bit, but he seemed a big improvement on last year, also to be fair, big Vic seems a bit mre committed.
All in all, a pleasant game, wish we had gone a bit more for it in the second
Half but hey ho, 3 goals, 3 points and second in the prem.
Thanks, Ian
31 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:28:32
32 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:31:56
Could it be true that bad news really does sell.........surely not!
33 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:55:53
35 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:59:23
After Swansea all I could think of was 'a great display', felt the same about 'that half hour' today and the Utd and Villa games.
(jesus if we'd picked up where we left off at half time today, in the second half, 6 or 7 was a genuine possibility).
One (other) thing I did enjoy today was that after going a goal down, we didn't panic which we sometimes do if/when something goes against us (a goal, an injury etc).
Against Leeds, their goal seemed to be the cue for us to fall to bits - passing, invention, shooting, the lot.
Saints goal on the other hand seemed to be kick up the hole we needed.
If we could improve our final ball, I think someone soon could be on the end of a real hiding.
36 Posted 29/09/2012 at 20:00:15
Pos Team Pld W D L F A GD Pts
1 Chelsea 6 5 1 0 11 3 8 16
2 Everton 6 4 1 1 12 6 6 13
3 Manchester United 5 4 0 1 12 6 6 12
4 Manchester City 6 3 3 0 12 8 4 12
5 West Bromwich Albion 5 3 1 1 7 4 3 10
6 Arsenal 6 2 3 1 10 4 6 9
7 Fulham 6 3 0 3 13 9 4 9
8 Newcastle United 6 2 3 1 8 8 0 9
9 Tottenham Hotspur 5 2 2 1 8 6 2 8
10 West Ham United 5 2 2 1 5 4 1 8
11 Swansea City 6 2 1 3 10 9 1 7
12 Stoke City 6 1 4 1 6 5 1 7
13 Sunderland 5 1 4 0 5 4 1 7
14 Liverpool 6 1 2 3 9 12 -3 5
15 Aston Villa 5 1 1 3 5 9 -4 4
16 Wigan Athletic 6 1 1 4 5 11 -6 4
17 Southampton 6 1 0 5 10 18 -8 3
18 Norwich City 6 0 3 3 4 13 -9 3
19 Reading 5 0 2 3 6 11 -5 2
20 Queens Park Rangers 5 0 2 3 3 11 -8 2
Enjoy, it may not last, but while it is what it is, enjoy
37 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:59:23
COYB
38 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:58:06
It does not mean that you hit that target and then that is what you settle for, because we haven't clearly, but that is what some people want to read it as because it fits their anti-Moyes agenda - it's a process of targets with that one as the first one. In the same breath Moyes said he asks for more from the players and that he wants to also encourage that from the supporters too. It's part of his methodical philosophy.
I wish he would put emphasis on staying in all competitions at least until the New Year as well though.
Onwards and upwards...
39 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:57:31
Unfortunately we don't have a reliable No 2 and if we want to stay in the 'big' race I think a goalie should be a priority. A great result today but we must still punish teams we put on the rack for the whole 90 mins, as the'other lot' did at Norwich, which was quite a performance.
40 Posted 29/09/2012 at 20:15:20
Thats it. Thats all it ever was. Have a look at the red shite and you will find that once all the other teams worked out out how the SHITE played then it wasn't that hard to put them in their place.
By the way you may be a troll but I couldn't give a shit anyway. MY dad was Jaguars Paw......
41 Posted 29/09/2012 at 20:30:51
43 Posted 29/09/2012 at 20:29:37
My concern would be if we lost Howard, Jags, Baines or Pienaar through a long term injury. Personally think they are critical to us. It did happen in the 80s though when we went from crap to brilliant in a matter of months, so I can but dream.
44 Posted 29/09/2012 at 20:23:44
Don't know were it has come from but we are good.
I have seen great players over the years and not just in a blue shirt, in my opinion Felliani has the ability to be a world beater. I don't know if our ambition can match his ability but he is some player.
Coleman was man of the match and there won't be a better goal in Europe this weekend than our second goal today. Dont know how long we can keep this up or Iam I one of our perennial wingers???
All I know is right now it is great to be a blue. All you youngsters out there soak it up coz take it from me we are good.
45 Posted 29/09/2012 at 21:22:28
Completely agree mate, when teams play football against us, we can play football back.
The two matches we have lost this year were aganst teams that sat back and put everyone in midfield and we just can't seem to thread the ball through them.
We could do with more muscle in midfield - we may get it from Gibbo but we're never going to get it from Naismith.
46 Posted 29/09/2012 at 21:22:25
Thought Coleman and Mirallas had a great game down the right hand side. At last that side of the pitch is providing a threat. With regard to Coleman yes his defensive play does need to improve, but that will only happen if he plays more games there. People forget that he came into professional football at a late stage and he still needs to learn his trade at right back. For the third goal he showed good pace and determination, followed by a great cross for Jelavic.
Very impressed by Mirallas today. He looks much better on the flanks rather than behind the main striker. I like his directness and his willingness to run at defenders. Great play by him for the second goal today. Second highest goal scorers in the league – just behind United. Oh to have Arteta playing in the centre of midfield with the rest of this team.
47 Posted 29/09/2012 at 21:50:06
The back four are a little short in the air and some teams will work on taking advantage of that. Some warning signs there today: Distin and Duffy need to be used when those aerial threats are iminent in future games... Mirallas is a real livewire and can only get better; we have to hope that he and Jela stay fit but Fella is playing great all over the place.
Midfield still loose in marking and covering, leaving space for opponents to run at the back four. Still, it's great to be second and way ahead of Redshite. Norwich, Reading, Soton or QPR already look relegation fodder.
48 Posted 29/09/2012 at 22:05:11
Sort it out will you Moyes FFS
49 Posted 29/09/2012 at 22:11:51
50 Posted 29/09/2012 at 22:22:26
51 Posted 29/09/2012 at 22:19:46
I mean, forget Hibbert, I know Coleman has much to learn, but let the boy develop his defensive side of the game and see what the right flank can do.
Past vs Future, Old School vs New School – always stick to the innovative football.
52 Posted 29/09/2012 at 22:40:55
I then suggest you look up the dictionary definition of 'mantra' and 'policy' since you don't seem to understand the difference.
PS if you want to know what is total shite then I'd suggest you actually took the trouble to find out that the place I think you were trying to find an Evertonian for a pint against WBO (whatever that is?) was probably the Winslow and not Wilmslow which is about 36 miles away down the M62.
53 Posted 29/09/2012 at 22:58:07
54 Posted 30/09/2012 at 00:00:03
55 Posted 30/09/2012 at 00:57:48
Jon in Cornwall — we are a group of season ticket holders and go to most home and away matches. Message me at sdjk@live.co.uk if interested to travel.
COYB
56 Posted 30/09/2012 at 01:24:28
Being a child of the eighties and watching first hand the unbelievable side of that era, I can, hand on heart, say that this side is quite simply the best side since that time. Some of the interchange of play is astonishing. Players flit from position to the next. We keep the opposition guessing.
Brilliant stuff... Please keep it up!
COYB
57 Posted 30/09/2012 at 01:45:54
I honestly think Coleman is the answer to our perrenial right back problem.
As good as Hibbo has been over the past decade or so, we've all known he's not the answer.
I think the Hibbster will struggle to get back in the team after Colemans last two or three games
58 Posted 30/09/2012 at 01:45:43
The last 25 minutes of the first half was awesome attacking football. The buzz in the crowd when Jelavic made it 2-1 was something not felt since the 80s.
Outside the ground at the end the atmosphere was a little flat, which shows what our expectations are now. On the field, Howard needs competition, Heitinga needs a word on his pace.
Osman was understatingly superb today and yes we miss Gibson, which highlights our one piece of world class required in centre mid. To be fair, the failed signing in the summer could be the one.
Both flanks were attacking threats, to be honest we are 90% there as a top 4 side come the end of the season. It's great to watch and hope we carry on at Wigan next week.
COYB.
59 Posted 30/09/2012 at 01:59:17
Gibbons return is now really exciting me as frankly I can see him preventing the kind of free running goal chance Rodriguez spurned. I can also see him providing an even more solid line in front of the back four and allowing Fellani even more time to play his best game. Howard worries me, he hasn't started the season that well despite the good performance at Swansea. I'd rather see Distin return for Johnny but options are looking better with Coleman looking a totally different player today after his dismal show at Leeds. Yelavic showed the crucial difference that is a quality finisher when from a similar position he finished superbly and Rodriguez failed. Games turn on these moments.
If we can just keep it going at Wigan we will then have two weeks to settle in the top four before the shite come calling....I'm looking forward to that now.
60 Posted 30/09/2012 at 04:33:08
Great leader as he is, and player he was, Neville was awful today. Osman can only play CM if he has a dependable, strong and clever ball player, like Gibson. Neville can't play a forward pass, he dawdles in possession and even tackled a team mate and sent Saints on the attack.
I was also disappointed in Heitinga and Howard. If we are playing a side like Chelsea, and JH can't run, he's had it against Torres. And in the air, without Distin we are so vulnerable. Maybe if the Frenchman is out of favour, why doesn't he give Duffy a go? I thought he done well when he was thrown in and didn't let himself down.
After all that, I'm so pleased with our new attacking philosophy, maybe finally getting that elusive goal poacher was the spark. Better than Steve Watson up front, or the 6-4-0 of last season.
COYB v the Pie eaters.
61 Posted 30/09/2012 at 05:09:31
With a bit of channel hopping in between checking the Mac, I watched the Man City, Chelsea, RS and Man Utd live games that they did show, I read the reports and kept up to date on what was happening on TW Forum and BBC Sport that I checked periodically during the game on my Mac but they are just the subjective views of other people and not the same as watching the game.
I am however very pleased that we appear to have adopted a more attacking entertaining approach this season, and I still think it's a pity it's taken Moyes 10 years to do so when it is so obvious how effective that approach can be.
62 Posted 30/09/2012 at 04:37:22
I think Moyes's initial quote of Everton being the People's Club was a reflection of what he is himself, a hard-working simple-minded tactician based on extreme caution. He also rewards effort and loyalty and sometimes that loyalty is blind.
Osman and Howard are picked every game irrespective of how they have performed. It is time Evertonians had a hard look at Howard because he is a liability to his defence and completely inept at corners.
63 Posted 30/09/2012 at 05:33:39
64 Posted 30/09/2012 at 08:05:34
Time though to spend some money on a good keeper as Howard just cannot command his six yard box and Mucha is clueless.
65 Posted 30/09/2012 at 08:15:32
66 Posted 30/09/2012 at 08:08:45
I don't mind genuine praise. If you are going to get the fake stuff like The Independent guff then I'd rather nothing (stopped the long ball and magic happens).
67 Posted 30/09/2012 at 08:42:27
I was not happy with Howard's display when the ball's in the air, he puts the shits up me for corners...
68 Posted 30/09/2012 at 09:13:52
What am I missing? Table looks normal to me!
69 Posted 30/09/2012 at 09:10:30
70 Posted 30/09/2012 at 09:07:22
71 Posted 30/09/2012 at 07:10:38
Howard, Baines, Pienaar, Jags, Gibson, Fellaini and Jelavic are likely to start when everyone is fit; who will fill the other 4 spots?
72 Posted 30/09/2012 at 09:43:41
74 Posted 30/09/2012 at 09:56:16
75 Posted 30/09/2012 at 10:39:52
Osman was probably MotM, fantastic on the ball and it was him and Neville that started us passing from the back that led to the first goal for us. They do the basics like showing for the ball and tracking runs that were so glaringly absent in mid-week.
Osman's just a great player, tactical awareness, passing range with both feet, great touch and ability, he was dictating play out there, if he had pace he'd be one of the top players in the league no question. Moyes is finally playing him as a first choice in his proper position and look at the results.
76 Posted 30/09/2012 at 10:46:04
I'm baffled by the plaudits given to Osman: again, he gave the ball away quite a lot (especially when we were going forward and had committed men – a real speciality of his), tackled indifferently.
It seems to me that for every one good thing he does, he does 4 or 5 bad things. But Moyes and most on here seem to think he's great. As I say, I'm rather baffled. I feel we have two classes of player in the team at present – and Osman is definitely in the lower category (unlike, say, Fellaini, Jelly, Mirallas, Bainesy etc.).
77 Posted 30/09/2012 at 10:54:53
I was pleased in particular with coleman who looked a threat. If he can work on his defensive side, I think we have a decent full back. I'm still not convinced he carries enough threat to be a right winger.
Mirallas continues to impress. Seems to have confidence and I'm sure he'll score 10+ for us this season playing as a winger.
Main downside for me was the failure to close the game in the second half. 3-1 up at home to a side who could well get relegated we should be pushing for 4 or 5, not taking our foot off the gas and inviting them onto us. Sides who believe they should be challenging near the top of the league don't do it. Neither should we.
78 Posted 30/09/2012 at 11:20:21
79 Posted 30/09/2012 at 11:15:51
As Wayne Smyth says, Coleman looked a threat and I agree that he could become a decent full back. He needs to be first choice whether Hibbert or Neville are fit or not.
Sorry about this but on a slightly negative note, why didn't Howard simply extend his arm for that corner?
80 Posted 30/09/2012 at 12:02:38
We are second and by right we have also been robbed of two points; those two in the middle are doing a great job at the moment.
81 Posted 30/09/2012 at 11:19:07
As for Jelavic, what can you say? Some of his antics before he got the goals were fucking infuriating. But the lad comes alive in the box. As well as Anichebe has played recently, there's not an earthly he would have scored them goals. This lad has ice running through his veins. Absolutly superb. Pity the bastard never got the 1st though as I had a few quid on him... but I can't complain: another good win and things are looking good.
82 Posted 30/09/2012 at 12:52:56
Having said that, imagine a CM partnership between Arteta & Gibson... Premier League winning side or wha'?
83 Posted 30/09/2012 at 13:15:10
Just a thought of mine regarding Jelavic who I think is a terrific player but think he does go down and get knocked off the ball far too easily for a bloke of his stature etc. I'd be better pleased if he used his strength a bit more and also just got on with it a bit more instead of whinging and complaining about every knock and tackle he gets.
84 Posted 30/09/2012 at 12:48:53
COYToffees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
85 Posted 30/09/2012 at 14:07:18
On another subject, I think it's rich "Fergie" complaining about an excess of injury time!! — after all the "play on 'till we score" he's enjoyed in the past!!
86 Posted 30/09/2012 at 16:26:46
87 Posted 30/09/2012 at 17:59:10
We need squad players no doubt about it... but let's get players in who are going to be here for a while – not some fly-by-night, which Donovan is really in effect – nothing against the lad but let's put this talk of him to bed.
The lad Mirallas looks a better player to me and he's younger. He looks like he could wreak havoc at times; the way he makes space for himself is really clever, if we manage to keep injury free. Big ask I know.
We could be on the verge of something. I just hope Moyes doesn't revert to type on 28 October.
88 Posted 30/09/2012 at 18:40:07
89 Posted 30/09/2012 at 18:45:31
90 Posted 30/09/2012 at 21:54:36
91 Posted 30/09/2012 at 22:20:16
92 Posted 30/09/2012 at 22:45:33
93 Posted 30/09/2012 at 23:25:24
94 Posted 30/09/2012 at 23:57:20
I'd like to see the contenders for Moyes's best eleven right wing spot...
95 Posted 30/09/2012 at 19:51:51
We've moved on... and in all likelihood so has he.
96 Posted 01/10/2012 at 01:58:27
Osman has had 10 years of mediocrity, getting pushed off the ball too easily, passing going astray, like last week which led to a goal. He's that good, no other club in a decade has made an enquiry about him, and he's never had a sniff of international caps, even though the England midfield has been shite many times over the last ten years.
He is too lightweight to play alongside a has-been like Neville and if you had watched the game, you'd have realised that a Championship side ran us ragged through the middle. that doesn't happen when we have the likes of Gibson, Carsley, Arteta, Gravesen, even Li Tie in there. Osman has never been good enough to deserve a stick on starting place, but he is a good squad player. Everton need to move on from the Hibberts and Osmans of the past, or we'll never progress.
97 Posted 01/10/2012 at 14:49:53
98 Posted 01/10/2012 at 22:38:04
99 Posted 02/10/2012 at 00:58:01
Okay, I may have been spoiled by the likes of Kendall, Ball, Reid, Bracewell etc over the years... but I think the club is progressing and, although I haven't said Osman is not good enough to play for us, I have been aware of his lack of bite, wayward passing, and the way he drifts out of games.
Be honest, tell me how many good games he's had in a row? He gets lauded when he scores, or has a decent game, then everybody seems to forget about him until they start realising how ineffective he is; then he pops up with a goal or busts a gut for half a game or so. It's not good enough, and he is 31 now, and him and Neville in CM together is calamitous.
When Gibson's back, and/or when we sign Hitz, then you can judge my comments on how we need to sort out the weakest part of our team. Southampton ran right through the middle of the park and Johnny and Jags had much more work than they should be getting. We were lucky not to draw the game, even after a 2-goal advantage...
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1 Posted 29/09/2012 at 16:58:53