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Moyes angered by penalty award

The Everton boss complained in vain to fourth official Anthony Taylor after referee Lee Probert had awarded the Champions a penalty so questionable it's still unclear whether it was given for an infringement by Leon Osman or Marouane Fellaini.
"It is not a penalty kick," Moyes said after the game. "I don't know how many penalties Manchester City have had in their home games recently, but as far as I know it is quite a few. They got another one today.
"You can't be giving ones like that. There'd be a penalty every time there's a corner kick."
"The fourth official told me that it was given for a foul by Leon Osman, so I've got my doubts if the referee saw the incident.
"But even if it was Fellaini, it's not a penalty kick, nowhere near. They say it levels itself out. We'll see."
So far this season, the balance of penalty decisions has been tipped overwhelmingly away from Everton's favour, with a number of clear-cut spot-kicks going un-awarded by a succession of officials.
Moyes was happy with the point, nonetheless, though, pointing to an impressive defensive display by his team that enabled them to become one of the few teams to deny City all three points at the Etihad in 2012.
"It was a good draw for us. We've had some bad draws but that was a good draw," he admitted.
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2 Posted 01/12/2012 at 21:06:27
3 Posted 01/12/2012 at 21:14:21
4 Posted 01/12/2012 at 21:21:13
But whenever we have appeals against the likes of City or Utd, every single time the same commentators will say something along the likes of "Well that's not a penalty for me". Another horrendous decision, ironically coming only a couple of days since we were denied a clear-cut penalty of our own, which was only a couple weeks after we were denied two blatantly clear penalties.
They also said the "top" sides who play passing football are going to get those calls because they're passing puts defenses under pressure. Well everyone has talked about how we play some of the best football around, not getting any penalties. You just cannot deny the blatant fact that a few sides get the calls, and it never, ever, evens itself out.
5 Posted 01/12/2012 at 21:22:54
6 Posted 01/12/2012 at 21:38:33
Then you get a compliant media to campaign on the issue so that the referee scheduled for your next home match (Kevin Friend at Anfield v Wigan wasn't it?) comes along to your training ground for a 'meet and greet' session with your players the week before the said fixture? Just a thought like... it seems to work for some clubs!
7 Posted 01/12/2012 at 22:07:06
8 Posted 01/12/2012 at 22:14:39
It started in the mid 90s and has been going on ever since. I accepted when we were a pretty awful team that most calls would go against us.
As we began to be more competitive and challenge for European places I believed that we would gain our fair share of Pens and free-kicks, but it hasn't happened, in fact the higher we go in the table the more the officials seem to give against us.
Referees can do what they like against Everton and clubs like us because we don't have millions of armchair supporters and therefore the media couldn't care less what happens to us.
No amount of complaining by the players or staff will alter the way the game is managed and that is why it will be a long-time before I pay good money to attend any top flight game.
If you think I'm wrong, just listen to how often the commentators, pundits and journalists will justify an incorrect call if it favours the chosen few.
9 Posted 01/12/2012 at 23:21:04
This season alone we have the follwing decisions made in error which impacted on the games and the end result to my reckoning we have lost 10 points to bad decisions:
Newcastle, QPR, Reading, Arsenal, Manchester City.
I stand to be corrected if this list is wrong...
10 Posted 02/12/2012 at 01:23:08
Refereeing decisions stopped you going to the game? Come on! It's been ridiculous recently but that surely isn't enough to make anyone throw the towel in.
There is an unwritten rule about conduct in the penalty area, particularly on set pieces. It either needs to be cracked down on or not. You can't just dish out the odd peno whenever you want.
11 Posted 02/12/2012 at 01:43:35
That said, it was no worse a challenge than the majority of the 3 or 4 wrestling matches that accompany every corner taken, and I am sure the favoured sides will continue to get away with worse on a regular basis for the foreseeable future.
12 Posted 02/12/2012 at 01:57:19
I was a ST holder from the mid 1970s until a couple of seasons ago and yes it is the officials that broke the camel's back. I endured all the heartaches of the 1970s and the mis-management of Everton in the 90s. Obviously there were many highlights during the 80s but even that decade was tainted with regular bouts of incorrect calls by officials usually when it mattered most.
Even the dire days of Walter and parts of DM's tenure never stopped me going the match.
Until or unless something is done about the ineptness of the officials, I believe many more people will turn their back on the game.
I'm still an Evertonian but one who is not prepared to feed the beast which is Premier League football.
13 Posted 02/12/2012 at 01:54:30
Steve #215, for things to 'even out' we are due 10 penalties that we don't deserve, now given that we've had 10 nailed on penalties denied what's our chances of getting ANY we don't deserve?
14 Posted 02/12/2012 at 03:42:41
In that sense, we are effectively playing 11 vs 12 when we play one of the media clubs. It really is gut wrenching to see the support that Liverpool gets in the media even when they have long fallen out of the elite group of clubs. Quite sickening, really.
15 Posted 02/12/2012 at 10:06:51
It's getting to the point that managers such as Davey Moyes can issue virtually the same pres release 'I am very disappointed with the referee" after almost every game. That's not good for Everton but, more to the point, it's not good for the reputation of Premier League football.
16 Posted 02/12/2012 at 10:11:48
How many years has this been going on? What is "having a word with the fourth official" ever done? What does saying that "we'll see if it evens out over the season" get you?
If you're going to complain, then cause a big fucking stink that all the media outlets will pick up on. Take your FA fine, but make it so uncomfortable for the refs that every time they're thinking about giving a dodgy decision against us, they'll think again.
Otherwise, best to shut the fuck up and start working with the players on Monday morning on simulation techniques and referee intimidation so that at least we have half a bloody chance of competing on a level playing field.
The ref aside, I thought we looked good against a team of better players. I think we shaded possession and had the better chances for most of the game.
17 Posted 02/12/2012 at 10:32:21
18 Posted 02/12/2012 at 11:04:47
We also noticed that our lads didn't surround the ref like some of the bigger teams would; perhaps we are too soft and the refs feel they can get away with decisions against 'soft' teams?
Perhaps what this teaches us is that we don't make enough of being fouled, we are generally to a man too honest and most of the top teams have players who can't wait to hit the grass with one arm in the air screaming for a stretcher...
19 Posted 02/12/2012 at 11:14:53
There was also several other fouls going on, including fouls against our players (Tevez on Jagielka for one).
Put this in the context of the recent penalty City got at home against Villa (handball when the defender clearly pulled his arm away and headed it) and there's some merit to the favouring the bigger (in terms of media value) teams.
And it doesn't even itself out. It's been proven time after time, season after season. Only idiot pundits care to trot that nugget out.
20 Posted 02/12/2012 at 14:34:52
How many fouls did Man City get away with never mind the penalty they got? I am sick of these refs giving us nothing.
No it doesn't even its self out so don't go there. If we manage to get in the top four they will most probably bring old frog eyes back to ref our qualifier.
21 Posted 02/12/2012 at 14:57:15
22 Posted 02/12/2012 at 15:17:39
23 Posted 02/12/2012 at 22:10:19
24 Posted 02/12/2012 at 23:26:27
Wigan: offside.
QPR: deflected.
RS: deflected.
Fulham: free-kick off a post onto Howard.
Arsenal: deflected.
Hopefully these will start to even themselves out as well and we won't keep finding ourselves having to chase the game. But anyway it's worth bearing in mind that despite all this, we've still only lost two league games. Only the reigning champions have lost fewer.
25 Posted 03/12/2012 at 09:09:49
26 Posted 03/12/2012 at 09:51:10
But he'd be wasting his time going to Riley, that pot herb doesn't know his arse from his elbow. We've had one pen all season and that in a game where we should have had at least three. It's laughable.
27 Posted 03/12/2012 at 13:38:10
28 Posted 03/12/2012 at 17:33:12
Furthermore, when is someone, ANYONE, going to acknowledge that as much as Fellaini had a grip of Dzeko's shirt (acceptable form in any other corner for pretty much all Premiership footballers - if not for us spectators) but Dzeko had a fistful of Fellaini's too and for longer than Fellaini held his. In fact, right up to the point where he chose to throw himself to the floor with no more than Fella's arm across his chest. Not a single pundit chose to draw any attention whatsoever to that observation.
As such, the focus is on mean old Marouane and not 'six of one and half a dozen of the other' as that would have created a more even-handed analysis, thus no doubt highlighting how we had been done yet again this season. It is no wonder our players are losing confidence when being officiated by an absolutely inept shower as we have already in less than half a season. Shocking and disgusting.
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1 Posted 01/12/2012 at 20:07:28