Kenwright hints at imminent decision

Living the dream

Evertonians of the world unite, all you stand to lose is a 0-0 draw....

We're fucked big time......

Arm around shoulder of nice, young, blonde chap heading down corridor to managers office (flowers in piles around the door)...

'Philip...... Can I call you Philip....? Good....now then Phil...... I might have a little job for you Pip....'

Come on, lads... it's time to force Gordon Clegg and his lackeys out.

I don't even know what to say anymore. Everything Kenwright does defies belief.

Could it be...

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01485/SNN0836C_532_1485903a.jpg

Neville
Stubbsy
Irvine
Big Dunc
Megson
Round
Boothroyd
Milky McKay
Weir
Sheeds
Kendal
Harvey
Kinnear
Gordon Lee
The man from Norwich
Jenny
Basil Brush
One Direction
Basil Fawlty
O'Neil
Curbs

No Johnny foreigners there. All good British talent who like their egg on toast.

" OH NO! JESUS CHRIST... NO!!!!"

Face reality, people, 6th is as good as it's ever going to get. Perm any two from Weir, Round, Stubbs and Neville and that'll will do for me; we won't go far wrong with blokes like them in charge.

Kenwright has created a club atmosphere which ensures we can attract the right type of new manager – a manager who can build on the rock that he and Moyes have established.

Recognise what we have and who we are – I'd much rather have another dour Scotsman who the players respect and give their all for than someone like a Pardew, Mark Hughes, Benitez or even Mourinho. All of these are self-serving and would ruin our club without really giving a damn.

Just what do we do???

What makes me chuckle most are the posts on here by fans who say dumb shit like, "He has only won the League Title in countries were the leagues are shit and dominated by one or two sides" when referring to would-be managers.... Ha Ha Ha! WTF do they think happens in the EPL? Man Utd have done a Celtic, Rangers or a Benfica. Porto all on thier own for the past 20 years now. Chelsea had a little go and Man City a lame attempt to be top dogs but Man Utd have taken the piss bigtime in a League that is supposed to be best in the world. So please don't look down your noses at the work of others and use this particular yardstick to judge people because our League is just as one-sided as the leagues in Scotland, Portugal or Span or Germany etc etc etc.

Come on now, lads, let me hear you all sing:

We are getting Pip,
I said we are getting Pip,
We are getting Pip,
I said we are getting Pip..

In fact picture Old Trafford, DM's first day.

- rippleripplerippleripple -

Tea-lady brings a trolly of tea and biscuits into a room containing Utd squad.

Moyes enters.

DM: "Good morning gentlemen"

Squad (mumble together) "Morning"

DM: "Right well nae doot some o' yooz will have ideas about whit ah might be like. Some o' yooz might have heerd that am a wee bit dooer and nae fun. But remember, at Everton, ah had tae cut mah cloth so tae speak. Money wuz tight and so ah had tae adopt a more frugal attitude. Here at United, with the funds available, ah can assure yooz that ah'll no be so money conscious and be able tae concentrate totally on the football. Basically, it'll be a more relaxed carefree me"

(players relax and smile at one another)

DM (continuing) "At Everton, the purse-strings were tight and ah had tae work within certain constraints. Believe me this 'prebyterian thing' is nonsense and ahm just as much fun as anybody else if ah don't have tae worry aboot..........Viscounts?" Fer fuck's sake VISCOUNTS!!" They're aboot two poond a fuckin' pack and ye ainly get SIX o' them!! That is just takin the pish!!"

A window suddenly blows open and a chill win enters the room.

Ryan Giggs hastily wraps the green foil back around a mint-filled chocolate-covered biscuit and places it back on the plate.

A new era...begins.

If we didn't keep killing off Strikers and creative players, we might not be so industrial!

If he has to British, please let it be Dunc. Ain't no technical box going to be able to stop him and which ref would want to come off at half time after doing us over to be greeted by the big man!

I would like to see Vitor Pereira get the job. Maybe with a couple of Everton greats alongside him, like Pip and Dunc. Will keep dreaming though! COYB

If Stubbs/Weir/Round/Neville get appointed I'm turning in my stripes. I will not set foot in Goodison again until that muppet has gone back to his drama luvvies for good.

An Industrial club ?!!! Thanks Billy. NSNO ? Ha bloody ha

I despair with this man as owner.

Please Kenwright, have the intestinal fortitude to think outside the box. to use imagination in your decision making, to maybe listen to, who for the most part, are knowledgable, informed, educated, intelligent, motivated individuals. THE FANS!!.. Lets have no more of this industrial bullshit. How about style, sophistication and flair!!

I'm trying not to get ahead of myself but going on past BK performance I fear the worst. He got lucky with DM and it needs an inspired appointment to move us to the next level but I'm not holding my breath!

What the fuck is this Johnny Bag Kenwright doing in control of a massive football club like Everton? How did we get to this? I tell you what those Twats across the park wouldn't've put up with this crap for so long. Surely after this latest pathetic outburst, he can't last.

"Industrial"... ??!??! Coal miners are INDUSTRIAL — not fucking football teams.

I will hold out a sliver of hope until an official statement is released but I'm not holding my breath

Mark, it was mentioned Laudrup was there as a guest of Chelsea for some reason.

However, if you paid anyone up to 4 mill a year to deal with that list you should have a reasonable expectation that they would be experienced, with a track record of delivery and a CV to match. As much as I am a fan a Dunc/Pip/Davie/Stubbsy/Sheeds as players, I have no idea if they are capable of this job. They certainly aren't qualified. Football isn't run like any other business but that does not mean we should leave all common sense at the door, no? In almost all professions I can think of there must be an apprenticeship where you make your mistakes and learn before rising to a mangerial position. There are 'naturals' that through innate ability and shrewdness are ready at an early age to lead and take such responsibility. There are very few of us on here that would turn down a big opportunity in a dream role even if we believed the chance was coming too early in our career, or even if the job might just be too big - certainly if it came with an equally attractive salary. I would wish every success to an internal candidate if appointed, but as a lifelong Evertonian I would dearly hope that the Board (whatever we think of them) applies some common sense to the appointment process.

How one man can ridicule thousands of fans is beyond believe with his comment
"it's a very hard working industrial football club"

Is he talking about Everton or Wigan, because I certainly feel like a Wigan supporter from a hard working industrial town.

Seriously, this fecking clown has to be sorted out before he gets us relegated...
When did he listen to the fans, Has there been a poll from the EvertonFC.com website that I have missed.

I am now staring to fear the worse & genuinely feel nervous about our future

What Kenwright is essentially saying is that we will continue to have a small squad of decent but not outstanding footballers, which the new manager will have to get 120% from for us to continue to be competitive.

We need to play smarter, not harder, if we are going to improve on what Moyes achieved. Cue the opening press conference of Davey Weir. Bollocks.

Personally, for what it's worth (which isn't a lot, I grant you), I would not be surprised if he was interviewing our coaching squad to ascertain if they would be interested in working with a new manager from outside.

Duncan Ferguson has no badges, Kevin Sheedy works with kids, Alan Stubbs is a reserve coach and I'm not sure what Davey Weir does, although I'd say he's easily the most intelligent of all of them and could be a great assistant to the likes of Martinez. Maybe Neville would make a good Assistant Manager...

And what about Steve Round? Does he want to stay on, writing his shopping list on the bench, or try pastures new? Just because BK spoke to them doesn't mean he wants them to be manager.

Can you please explain to me in joined-up ideas the link between this:

Well I sincerely hope that all the Moyes haters will be happy with the recent comments made from BullShiter Blue Bill "from The Boys Pen"

and this:

How one man can ridicule thousands of fans is beyond believe with his comment
"it's a very hard working industrial football club"

In other words, can you please explain in joined up ideas the link between this:

Moyes haters

and this:

"it's a very hard working industrial football club"

A word of warning, please do not reduce yourself to a laughing stock
by saying if you criticized Moyes - you choose to use the word 'hate' -
you are responsible for the tone and tenor of Teary Billy's industrial
ethic.

So, have a pop at it, and don't humiliate yourself with silly soundbites
like MOB or Moyes haters.

I guess you like being labelled as a supporter of a “Very hard working industrial football club” but I don’t.

He is a very popular figure with Cardiff City fans and projects himself well in the media. For me, his best quality is his recruitment policy. He profiles players, not just on their ability, but on their personality and suitability for the club. I'm sure most managers take this into consideration, though if you look at Hughes at QPR, some obviously don't!

I would certainly prefer McKay to Round/Stubbs/Weit who have no proven track record. Still hoping for Laudrup or Martinez, though I'm braced for disappointment!

I don't want the likes of Stubbs,Weir or Ferguson either.

Under this clown Kenwright, we always think small. Why not think big for a change and go for a top class manager?

Out of contract so wouldn't cost anything. Won lots of silverware. A top tactician, still lives in the Liverpool area and refused to rule himself out of the running when asked on Friday.

Am I getting warmer?

Bring Rafa in.

The only one I would even consider would be Neville alongside somebody of proven experience, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him head straight to Old Trafford alongside Moyes.

I don't care what he said in the past, in terms of his CV my choice would be Rafael Benitez. But, Kenwright won't go anywhere near him because, again, it comes down to ambition and he'd have far more ambition than Kenwright could cope with.

My first choice is Solskjaer, if we have to go internal then I would hire Neville on a trial basis of 1 year contract!

Duncan Ferguson could be 3 choice, but I would think he is a bit further on the line regarding coaching then Neville is.

If Kenwright hires from within then he will be under fire from day one, when it turns out things are not going the right way.

I can only imagine that PN would start on wages not much if at all different from his playing wages, so in a stroke, no compo and £3.5m of wages a year saved.

Not advocating this, just surmising.

A story in the Sunday People of all places and you believe it all and cream yourself! I'm no BK fan I can assure you, but nothing whatsoever has been announced yet.

That's fine, I was just asking.

You had the opportunity to explain what in
your mind was the link between Moyes-haters
and teary Billy's words and you chose not to.

That's fine.

If we get Martinez, were fucked!. What do you want, a 2 times champions manager in Pereira, or a manager who just got relegated with Wigan?, tough one this!!!!!!

That can't be right. Surely everyone wants an adventurous foreign manager who will come in and revolutionise the club, blow the cobwebs away, get rid of the backroom staff and get us playing football again like we did in yesteryear.

If we get this promotion from within, it will be an absolute disaster and the end of Everton. We have had 11 years of crap and now this. Kenwright must go. He doesn't believe in Everton anymore – did he ever?

This points to P.Neville, sadly.

I said as soon as it was confirmed Moyes was leaving that our embarrassment of a Chairman would choose someone to suit himself rather than someone who would take this club forward.

But never mind, at least he's one of us etc.

One of the things I think we should really clamp down on hard is people who make stuff up, who come on here and shoot their mouths off for effect, but talk total bollocks. I'm not talking about opinions, I'm more concerned about things are stated as fact — take this example.

I know a lot of people don't like Bill Kenwright but this kind of nonsense surely needs to be kicked to the kerb:

"He doesn't believe in Everton anymore – did he ever?" — WTF?!?

Andrew (#075): You have no grounds whatsoever to talk about what somebody else may or may not believe...

We've let a lot go in the past, on the expectation that the posters were taking responsibility (and receiving any blame) for what they write,... granting them an avenue for their freedom of expression. But the sad fact is that, for so many people (who post on here or not), what they read is what ToffeeWeb represents — despite our persistent disclaimers to the contrary.

So, in the in the classic mode of Robert De Niro, a la Meet the Fockers... (two fingers, eyes)... we're watching you.

That was super silly.

I can't bear Teary Billy but I know that he believes in EFC; it's just that, as in any other belief structure, there will inevitably be a variety of opinions about what belief constitutes.

Nor can I bear all this "I'm the best Evertonian cut from the Boy's Pen" stuff, and, seven wounds of Christ and Holy Entwistle, those comments in the car park.

But you should have no doubt at all that BK believes in EFC, but just coz he's pulling the purse strings doesn't mean that his belief(s) are better than mine, or Doddy's, or Brent Stephens's, or Mike Kenrick's, or Ed Stewart's.

Indulge me here :), but in Australia our football clubs (which are arguably more advanced in corporate governance and sports science) convene a panel of experts. It would be made of ex-players, administrators, sometimes media analysts and business leaders selected from within the applicable club but also from others and across the league – for transparency and wider perspectives. They would be tasked with recommending one or a small number of candidates to the board by conducting an appraisal of the club's requirements (playing style, strengths of current players, squad weaknesses, age of squad etc) and then conducting interviews to whittle down the candidates based on their presentations. A candidate has to present their philosophies, methods, and approach if given the opportunity.

The club board make their choice and appoint the successful candidate. No nepotism, self-interest and probably a healthy dose of self-protection for the appointer. One guy sticking his wet finger in the air and having a guess seems so Old School?

It would appear that the rich clubs are now so far out of reach that there is neither the desire or the will to be innovative or commercially savvy and I think that we - not necessarily the fans - as a club have decided to carry on in the same vein as we always have and as long as they do enough to keep the wolf from the door then as far as they are concerned they are doing a wonderful job as custodians.

The Everton FC that a great many of us grew up with is not presently reflected nor has it been in the majority of the PL era and it is becoming obvious that a lot of the younger generation of fans are satisfied to be among the also-rans with a faint hope of winning a cup or qualifying for the CL.

Unless the club is bought by an Evertonian with deep pockets it is unlikely that our fortunes will change radically in the foreseeable future and it is a sad reflection that the likes of Alan Hansen can justifiably say that we have been punching above our weight and what we have experienced in the last few years is probably as much as we could wish for. It is depressing and hard to take for a great many of us but the reality is staring us in the face and it is because the club has been grossly mismanaged for the entire PL era that we will continue to pay the price for that in the coming seasons.

Even the best one man band can't compete with the Philharmonic Orchestra.

Now I think the same thought process can be applied to Everton at the moment, we have just finished 6th in the League, are regularly finishing in the top 6/7 of the league, and have a good solid base to build upon. Admittedly the finances are not in the healthiest state but the club does not need someone to come in and turn around a struggling ageing squad as Moyes had to 11 years ago. The foundations are already there.

It is such an opportunity to go out, show real ambition go after Bielsa, Simone, Blanc, Touchel. They may not fancy the job but at least we tried, we should demand excellence, not be a testing ground for some young up and coming manager to see if he can cut it in the big leagues.

Nil satis nisi optimum used to stand for something it is the very essence of the club, anything less from the board is a complete dereliction of their duty

You can't please everyone that's for sure. It's a tough appointment to make. The polar opposite views of those of us contributing on these pages show that whatever happens, some will be pleased and some will want blood.

I just can't fathom how you could possibly consider appointing someone as manager of a top 6 Premier League football club who has never managed a football club before.

We should only be looking for THE BEST. We deserve the best Bill.

No wonder we're trying to remove "Nil Satis..." from the club logo.

What's Latin for "whatever appears to be the easiest option will do".

I'm not sure if that bothers me or not.

I'm finding this list of managers so depressing. There's only one bloke who really knows what it takes to win trophies, to compete in Europe. Hell, he even knows the city. Can't believe in even considering it but, local history aside, he's the absolute standout isn't he?

The sight of this fool in tears, clapping his hands singing " It's a Grand Old Team..." whilst Moyes lauded it up on the pitch was not only an embarrassment to himself but more importantly EVERTON FOOTBALL CLUB....he looked like he'd just suffered a bereavement !!

As much as I fuckin hate them...it worked for the RS across the park who drove out Waldorf & Stadler.with their protest marches etc..KENWRIGHT & His CRONIES MUST GO !!

Whre the fuck are the so-call Blue Union when we fuckin need them....fucking disappeared out of sight that's were....now is the time for us all to unite and drive these pricks as far away from Everton FC as is possible....!! If we don't then Kenwright is going to KILL this club once and for all !!

"Where are the Blue Union when you need them?...........now is the time for us all to unite and drive these pricks away"

I agree 100%

What will your first move be to achieve your aim?

Suggests either in house or someone like Mackay. Typical, in his wishes not to let David Moyes down, he has let down the millions of Evertonians in his wishes to get one final kiss on DM's backside.

He has to remember, that without us, Everton wouldn't exist. Everton will carry on long after Moyes Bill. He will be forgotten in 10 years.

Kenwright says he can't poll ALL the supporters....maybe not...but he can contact a large majority of them...I gave up my season ticket 2 seasons ago because I just couldn't stand any more false promises from this lying twat....however I STILL get unsolicited mail from Everton Football Club...I've must have add at least 10 in the last few weeks alone....this means they still must have my details on a database....if they've still got mine then the'll still have those of others like me...say another 3-5,000 based on falling season ticket sales ovcer last 2-3 seasons....add this to the current season ticket holders say roughly 25,000...then add all of the Evertonia members on top of that...without really trying that's almost 27-30,000 Everton supporters who could voice their opinions and maybe stop this buffoon destroying this once great club....

I do think that him not selling us to anyone who has a bit of cash has helped us.......UP TO THIS POINT. Liverpool, Blackburn, Villa, Arsenal, QPR even City to a degree haven't exactly progressed have they? Liverpool and Villa have slumped, Arsenal are about the same, Blackburn & QPR are an embarrassment to football and City don't have much to show for £1bn spend. United got taken over but they were already the best and thus just carried on.

I actually think that NOW is the time sell the club on. Get a new manager in and start from scratch with genuine backing and investment.

As for The Blue Union............ hypocrites

I think we should deal in facts it wasn't the Liverpool fans who forced out Hicks and Gillette it was the RBS who held the purse strings and put Broughton on the board.
Also if Kenwright resigned tomorrow it wouldn't make a jot of difference, we would still need a buyer and you can be sure Earl and Green wont sell their shares cheaply.

Yes we do need a new manager appointed very quickly but you only have to gaze through the many names put forward on this site to realize that there is no fans stand out choice. Also love or hate Moyes we are a completely different club now than the one he inherited. So there is even more pressure to make the right appointment to be very honest I am glad I don't have to make that call.

Oslo would be littered with furious Kopites

You say '..these clowns 'WILL ruin a once great club...' to my mind they ARE ruining it before our very eyes. Kenwright has lost his shield with Moyes going which probably is why he was nearly crying his eyes out on SSN and MOTD...he obviously realises that he is about to be found out in a very very big way....He says " I don't want to let Evertonians down..." but we all know that he will do so especially with his choice for next manager if the rumours are to be believed....after all he's been letting us down ever since he took over as Chairman....Paul Gregg was berated by Evertonians some years back when he predicted that Kenwright would ruin this club....I wish to fuck we'd have listened to him because he was spot on....Yes Gregg was out to make money but I'm damn sure he would have ran the club correctly in order to make that money....I do not doubt that Bill Kenwright as a fan loves Everton Football ClubC as much as we do...but as a Chairman he is killing it !!

BTW....What the fuck is an "....industrial football club..." ?????

If you read it properly you'd see that I want us to be sold now because it's the perfect time to my mind

Paul Andrews (249)

May I suggest we take guidance from Arnold Rimmer on this and hit the Board "hard and hit it fast with a major - and I mean major - leaflet campaign"

May I suggest you take said leaflets,roll them into a conical shape and insert them into your ring piece?

Is he insane?? The dogs on the street know this is not going to be a popular decision, you would think a man in his situation, i.e hated by many fans, would want to do something which might make him seem less of a tit!

I would rather Joe Kinnear than David 'Walter Smith – the Second Coming' Weir.

The abbreviation is clitterus

How long do people think we will be waiting for? End of the month?

Although, this is Everton and we only have money available for the last 15 minutes of transfer deadline day

For me this decision has to be the marker on which Kenwright should be judged. I would like to see him take advantage of the press coverage given to Moyes and man its and use it for a big hitter.. someone that can pull some strings to get a few more unpolished diamonds in on the cheap... This is not Martinez, Mackay or P Neville, this is Laudrup, Pereira or any of the hundreds of successful foreign managers... I'm afraid that appointing too low key will result in stagnation and probably result in the manager blowing most of the transfer budget on shite.. get somebody with connections that Moyes never had and make sure we hold onto the big club mentality, that way maybe somebody will come along with a billion quid and stop us all moaning

BUT......................................................... This is EFC after all

Christ, it's hard enough on this site every transfer window but trying to guess who the new manager is will drive us all potty.

The one thing I will agree with is the general sense of fear that we will fuck this up. I really hope that we get this guy from Porto and not some of the clowns that have been mentioned up and down the length and breathe of the footballing world.

As manager? Or read somewhere about BK wanting a sporting director to compliment an inhouse coach. Could Klinsmann fit the bill..excuse the pun.

Not getting excited...but...Achtung!

By the way, I love on the (PP) odds list..

Di Matteo (nb: winner of the CL) 50/1

Duncan Ferguson (doing his badges) 40/1

For flips sake!

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2011/11/12/klinsmann-praises-Moyes

Deep down though the Evertonian in me thinks that the clown in charge will well and truly fuck this up good and proper. Come on Bill, grow a pair and prove the majority of us wrong.

Do we promote from within? A duo of Ferguson / Neville a master stroke or disaster? or do we appoint a manager like Vitor Pereira a winner abroad but never managed in the Premier League, would he upset the balance of a club like Everton?

What make's it worse is the red shite will improve next season so this decision BK has to make must be spot on. Good luck, Bill – I certainly wouldn't like to make that decision.

Those mentioned are not even real managers as far as I'm concerned, so there can be no comparison made to a £4m a year P.L. veteran such as Moyes.

Kinsmann would be a coup, but why would he leave California, on a soft touch with the U.S?

https://twitter.com/J_Klinsmann/following

Soft touch?

Moyes proved there's no softer touch than Kenwright.

Job details: 'Become one of the best-paid managers in the world, avoid relegation'.

(besides, what does California have to offer that Walton doesn't?)

By the way, a mate of mine who lives there (in la-la land) played football a few years back for a team called Hollywood United (mainly Brits)

Anyway, he was having a bevvy one night after a game with a few team-mates and was approached by a feller who was..um...how can I put this..'very close to his mother' (knows what's in his flower beds - etc).

The 'puddle-jumper' sees the 'Hollywood United' badge and says "Awww thadd is like SO like cool"

My mate says "Are you into football?"

The feller is confused and says "Awww no...what? Oh I thought it like meant that like we should all get together and like..you know get behind our neighbourhood or whaddevver"

Easy mistake to make I suppose.

I parked in Kirkdale and recall as it was bonfire night it was more like Beruit than L4 fire and explosions everywhere.

Ended up in the KFC you describe, Spanish guest hesitant fir a few seconds looking at tge menu to be screeched at "what the fuck do you want...."

Unforgettable and nothing like California. ..

(first ever 200 - GET IN!)

Out of this bunch:

Roberto Martinez 100/30 - Alan Stubbs 5/1 - Malky Mackay 5/1 - Jurgen Klinsmann 10/1 - Neil Lennon 10/1 - Phil Neville 12/1 - Michael Laudrup 16/1 - Gus Poyet 16/1 - Vitor Pereira 16/1 - Ole Gunnar Solskjaer 20/1 - David Weir 25/1 - Dougie Freedman 25/1

(1) Vitor Pereira
(2) Michael Laudrup
(3) Jurgen Klinsmann
(4) Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
(5) Roberto Martinez

Stubbs - No
Mackay - No
Lennon - No
Neville - No
Weir - No
Freedman - No

Hang on a sec, what's the trend here. I get it.

My top-5 picks were not born in the British Isles. My 5 Nos in the top-10 were all born in the British Isles.

Hmmm, for me at any rate - given the betting leaders and chasing pack that we have - we absolutely must go foreign and not in-house, indoors, internal, inside, cheap, UNIMAGINATIVE

Teary Billy June-3: 'It seemed pretty clear to me and my colleagues on the board that this was an appointment that speaks to the tradition of this great club. David Moyes (rubs eyes) emphasized continuity and the Everton tradition. And you will remember my first interview when I said plainly that we must persist in the Moyes tradition, and yes I immediately inserted Everton tradition, but Evertonians like me who love this club so dearly know what I mean. In the appointment of Alan (Stubbs) and David (Weir) we have continued a great Everton tradition. Continuity is key, key is continuity'

Early June seems to be the time for managerial appointments. 5 signed within a two week period last year.

There are an awful lot of backroom staff jobs on the line, especially as Moyes is flying solo to Old Trafford. This will definitely influence BK's decision and will have been heavily discussed during their recent 2-hour meeting.

Please don't waste your time and effort endlessly speculating — let's wait and see who he announces has the job or, at the very least, who is on the short list.

I think it is a good post...

He is now saying the imminent decision could be as early as next week.
This joke needs removing from the club before it is too late

I agree, but, managers can still be put in place ready to take over, I'm sure it's happened before.........