Southall calls for £50M injection

Bought shares and rubbing hands gleefully at the warm prospect of a bumper windfall when William (I think they call him William) Kenwright finally lands an offer closer to his figure to walk with buckets and buckets of big sponds.

Loans to the club that they are calling in.

Why, as elsewhere now and then, did they not gift the club the money?

50 million would not cut a huge hole in their collective pockets but the greedy grasping minge-bag cash-counting twats will not do this, never, ever

Shameful

No metion of where it's coming from or how to get it.

Pointless.

Where is disagree with Nev is that if any investment was incoming, the last people qualified to spend it are this board. They have stripped every asset from the club and driven us into debt. If we had that kind of money, I would much rather someone else spent it for us.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/tony-pulis-leaves-stoke-city-1902582

Double shit, I'm bricking it now.

'No metion of where it's coming from or how to get it.'

What the fuck do you expect him to do. Come up with a fully costed plan of action? Listen Nick, sorry Ian, that's not Big Nev's responsibility. What we have here, can you see this, is a true Everton legend publicly saying that Teary Billy and his cronies are not giving enough financial support to the club. He is, therefore, trying to publicly dress down or shame the aforesaid cronies.

This will not achieve anything, I hear you squeak. Actually, it's only very recently that people we think of as true blue heroes deeply deeply respected by us are starting to publicly criticize the present regime.

This, a transitional time, is also a perfect time to do this.

But you say:

'Pointless'

I say:

You are talking crap.

I genuinely don't mean this is a flippant way but, what IS the philosophy of the club?

I genuinely have no idea.

I know what supporters THINK it should be or would LIKE it to be but...what ACTUALLY is it?

Do we HAVE a philosophy?

I mean under John Moores we didn't win a title every year, but you kind of believed that he took NSNO very seriously.

Has it (without many of us noticing) become 'Nil Satis Nisi Industrium'? (or whatever the latin is for "Nothing but grafters, no keepie-uppie merchants").

I'd honestly like to know the Everton FC philosophy.

Either way its painful to think how little the board have done for the club. The failure to find/provide needed investment is farcical.

The article says "Everton need to spend more money".

Where's the fuckling story in that? - we all know it, it makes no odds who says it.

Like I said, pointless.

"Everton fans pay good money, they expect to see good football and expect something to be done about it, and something will be done about it".

This sums up how I see what our philosophy/standards should be.

"Everton fans have some of the cheapest prices in the Pl, we provide them with football, there is nothing we can do about competing with the richer clubs."

There's one born every minute?

Maybe they could all club together, add in a few blue celebs and by the club

Doesn't the words "Leeds" or "Portsmouth" mean anything to you people.

Let's encourage the club to spend money it hasn't got, go bankrupt, sell all our best players in a fire sale and get relegated a couple of divisions. Then we can blame it all on the board like the Leeds and Portsmouth fans did.

Pulis of Stoke has quit so it seems he may now enter the bookies list of candidates. Heaven forbid!

The only option is for Everton to sell in order to buy and I cannot see anyone going first except Fellaini who has stated he wants Champions league which Everton won't have next season.

It is a sad fact that the ''poorer teams'' have to sell their best assets to compete on a realistic level and Fellaini is our best asset at the moment as arguably were Rooney and Arteta.

"Ooo, Bill's doing all he can. He loves this club. Wasn't David Moyes brilliant. This next boss will be brilliant too. Everything is just hunky dory."

Very wishful thinking from Big Nev, but at least he's a well known voice and his words will make more of an impact then any of us so called fans

Ex-Player comes out and says we need to be sold, and should be given 50 million quid: What a legend, the man speaks the truth, he knows our club, true evertonian etc.

Good to see some intelligent analysis going on from some area's. Ironically some of the same people who famously quoted 'Moyes will never be given a big job'. People often talk to me about being lacking in ambition based on my opinion, and then in the same breath suggest our new manager should be either someone who has just led his team to relegation, or someone who was sacked from 3 different non-league clubs but 'is a good evertonian'. Thank god for ToffeeWeb, the best psychotherapy bar none.

How can a former player doing nothing more than state that the board of directors should do their jobs and find the funds to develop the clubs squad can be met with such opprobrium by Williams and Brierley is baffling. Is it not the job of the board of directors to back the manager with transfer funds? And If they can't do it they should sell up and move on.

That you have resorted to ad-hominem attacks on a prominent yet mild critic of Mr Kenwright and his board is regrettable, but inevitable with the departure of Moyes. As for the appeals to your own authority as opposed to Mr Southall's do you really want to use that as a tactic? I would advise against it

Martinez was 9-4 this morning but now 7-2. Our favourite diving German is out to 16-1, although Pereira is hanging in there at 12-1, coming in from the 28-1 he was 2 days ago.

Neville now 18-1, Pulis in at 16's ( time to kil myself if that ever comes off ), FSW out to 66-1 and Pardew in at 250-1 hahaha!

I hope you don't have to back track yet again dear fellow.

I'd still like to see it be Slaven Bilic ( currently 25-1 ) myself. Knows the Club's traditions, good experience, good connections no doubt, relatively inexpensive compared to some, good style of play and no baggage from being in opposition to us. Sounds like a pretty good fit to me.

And not Scottish either, hahaha!

I think Stoke may have chosen to bite the bullet while managerial posts seem so fluid at the moment, I think Martinez at up 25-1 for them is a great bet.

I had a hundred nicker at 10/1 that Pardew would never learn to play the harp.

Fuming I am, fucking fuming!

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Never took this Joker seriously since his pro-DK posts a few years ago.

Whether fans agree with Big Nev or not, the man is a gold carat Everton legend, always speaks his mind and tells it like it is. Good to see him again speak out against the board.

One Neville Southall is worth a billion Bill Kenwrights.

I don't dislike ex-players just because they don't align to my agenda.

Remember the 'Newcastle are in a different League to Everton' comment last Summer? Nearly came off too - them in the Championship!!

Every Club he's been to, he's had one good season and then it's downhill. Difference this time is that balloon Mike Ashley gave hian 8 year contract! He's going nowhere is he, not without an almighty Golden Goodbye?

If there is one 'Big Club' run worse than Everton it's the Geordies, who for all their supporters and corporate income can't spend it wisely to save their lives!

Ian, probably not. But if I owned Everton FC would I give it £50m if I had it? Yes.

Andy, Ian if you want to support a club that wins trophies and challenges at the top of the league then we need money to invest in the infrastructure and playing staff at the club. Just like all the teams we're trying to compete with. We are lucky enough to be owned by some people who are, to use a financial term, fucking minted. We're unlucky enough that they all seem to have short arms and deep pockets. I'd like that to change.

Wel done Nev and Kev it's about time someone spoke their mind and said what is required at this great club.

(I said: you don't 'use' semantics, you 'apply' semantics)

Some of the top names will obviously demand the top pay and that I think will preclude those from coming.

Any new man knows full well it could be a difficult baptism given the limited transfer funds available at Everton currently and that factor also may keep some from applying unless of course they do not get a better offer elsewhere.

Martinez would be my choice hands down.

What else can we do, we have no leverage, pass the vaselline.....

If it did go wrong we could sell felli and bains to recoup most of the money back anyway.

Indeed every club will be at least 30mil better off, and therefore spending big, we need to keep up or drop into bottom half or worse!

I'm worried we will do a Leeds if we don't spend £50m.

If we show no ambition, Fellaini and bains will go, that's almost all our attacking threat.

And all you people who said Moyes was absolutely fantastic and overachieved are the same people criticising southall. So lets follow this logic through.

Moyes is brilliant according to you lot, so it's fair to say we won't get a manager that can work the so called miracles on a shoe string, like he did.

But you don't want to risk giving the new guy the money to spend big on players either. So it's Martinez with his pretty football bringing in the kones and scharners of the world. Plus his awful defending. Bains and felli gone..... Now that's doing a Leeds or at least a Wigan!!

Part funded by the sale of and the reduction in wages through the departure of; Neville, Moyes, Naismith, hieghtinga, Vellios, Gueye. Plus the extra tv money.

Fer, mcmannaman, and Scott Sinclair in for £20mil. Lukaku on loan or £15m. And a big dominate centre back as cover for distin and jags, someone who is strong in air maybe turner, dann or wheatear not top defendes but could be used against holt, stoke etc a type we don't currently have. The team could look like this;

Howard

Coleman, jagielka, distin, bains

Fellaini, fer
Pienaar(in hole)

Mirralas, Sinclair as wingers

Lukaku

Six out, five in, and either sell hibbert or put stones on season long loan to save on another set of wages. I reckon I've spent less than £40m and brought maybe £6m.

Here's the reserve side or carling cup team same formation and almost like for like

Mucha

Stones, Duffy, wheatear, Oviedo

Gibson, Barkley
Osman

Mcmannaman, anichebe

Jelavic

Two for every posn. No need to move anyone out of position or tinker with formation. No European comp. This squad is big enough and could give spurs an arsenal a right good go, no matter who is in charge! And without increasing the wage bill significantly if at all.

So with the extra tv money, it would not be out of the question to offer Rooney 200k a week either. Think about the extra revenue he'd bring through more sponsership dough, more games televised. Also its a World Cup year. The eyes of the country would be on us all year if we had him. Speculate to accumulate. Now maybe that's asking a lot, but is the other 4 or 5 signings? Don't think it would put club at risk, especially if we borrowed it of our own shareholders.

Increased Other Operating Costs?

Don't you know that the best ever salesman for Everton is searching 24 x 7 for investment.
Unfortunately people are just not investing in football clubs anymore.

If Tom (870) is correct about Lord Granchester then we should be on the streets now!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4QZsjuCKjg

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMtRO8Iw3oA

Is the same as some cleverarse here shooting down any and everything.
So go on clever arses, manage EVERTON

But they won't, 'cos just like Me, they are ONLY fans
But when it suits the keyboard warriors they'll shoot down Sharpie, Ratters, Big Nev and even Bill Kenwright, because all the keyboard warrior has to do is be a "nay sayer"

You don't wanna do that !

Well go and do it !
YOU
YOU go and do it !

But YOU can't, and that's why just like Me you fart about here
The difference is that most here discuss and have banter

But the smartarses ONLY shoot other tiny fish in this tiny pond down

Same cuplrits, same crime, everytime !

Calm down lad,relax a little it's only opinions.

Personally, I'd like to see us spend the money on Fer(8-9m), a striker (Remy...if innocent, Kone, one of the impressive Eredevisie guys, Aubameyang (7.5-14mil) and another cb (Williams? Hangelaand on a free? although he is too slow if we play with a more attacking mindset). Would also like to see Maloney or even Mcmanaman come in, to give us more attacking threat in depth.

The next saddest thing is that some of our own fans want to sell our best player to raise transfer funds, in an era when the Premier League is awash with cash and Kenwright's cronies are worth billions.

Gosh, our board has done a great jobs managing expectations. Or are we the most ignorant pessimistic fans in the world?

1. Rooney gets over £200,000 per week. Everton cannot afford that kind of money so he won't be signing for us.

2. I don't know how many "billions" Kenwright's cronies have got but it's their billions not yours. It's great to be free and easy with other peoples money

3. Nobody in their right mind invests in football clubs because there's no profit in it. I''ll bet that sucker who bought QPR wishes he'd kept his cheque book shut. Or maybe we could get everyone's favourite chicken chokers the Venky's. After all they made a real success of Blackburn Rovers I'm sure they could do the same for us.

4. I would also point out that unless we can suddenly afford to pay players ridiculous money then the players that we want would not sign for us anyway and these days 50 million does't go anywhere. Remember that's what Chelski paid for Torres. A brilliant signing I'm sure we'll all agree.

5. Spending millions to make wholesale changes doesn't always lead to success. Again I point to QPR. Signing a bunch of money grabbers, I mean top players, with release clauses in their contracts really paid off. Well at least they have good ol' Harry Redknapp as a manager. Whoo hoo.

6. All of the above and more is modern football. Financial speculation, money grubbers, badge kissers by the dozen, and chancers with money to burn. Everton may not be the most successful club around but unless we can get an owner that thinks owning a football club is just an expensive hobby then we're doing OK

1. £200,000/week is £10mil a year out of a £60 mil wage bill. I'd pay it to him based on the attention and extra commercial revenues it would bring. You would still have a £50 mil budget for the other 24 players(you only name a 25 man squad for prem season..so why have more senior players?)

2. They choose to buy the club. To move the club forward requires investment. But instead they give us crippling loans that allows them to take money out the back door. They've sold every asset including Rooney on the cheap, put in nothing and are looking to sell for a massive profit.

3. Who mentioned Venky? Was talking about our club. When you think you've got the born again Moyesiah, why wouldn't you give him money to invest. If its true what kenwright said about him he would have re mortgaged his house again, sold his theatre business and borrowed off of everyone, surely. Or maybe he's full of shit

4. How many good signings have chelsea made? and anyway, Big nev was asking to spend 50 mil on 4 or 5 up and coming players. Look at michu, bent eke, wiseman, how much are these worth now. Imagine what Moyes may have done with 50 mil one summer

5. Hard to answer such nonsense that no body on here advocated. I think I mentioned trying sign;
~Scott sinclair( committed young pro desperate to force his way into England team in a World Cup year),
~Mcmannaman a young Everton fan
~Lukaku who is a young and hungry striker
~and a tall strong competitive centre half.

QPR signed about 13 already est journeyman mercanery foreigners. Nothing like what I or nev suggested.

We were recommending something like the window were Jelavic, Pienaar, Gibson and the American on loan!

6. We're doing ok is quite correct. But I'm a competitive person and I have ideas on how to make us more competitive using or £60m wage budget. You seem to have none. And like a lot of evertonians these days your pessimism, you might say realism, is doing more harm than good. You are failing to hold the club to account and allowing them to numb our ambition.

So instead instead of poo pooing every one, including Everton legends, get behind people who demand progress and together let's try and move this club forward. Football is after all, a sport, we should at least try to win.

£50 million?

Ah well, you can always dream.