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Reports: Osman signs new two-year deal
The 32 year-old remained a mainstay in the Everton midfield this season in David Moyes's last campaign in charge and his form was recognised at international level where he won his first full England cap under Roy Hodgson.
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2 Posted 22/05/2013 at 00:38:17
3 Posted 22/05/2013 at 01:02:01
4 Posted 22/05/2013 at 01:02:15
5 Posted 22/05/2013 at 01:08:17
6 Posted 22/05/2013 at 02:15:12
7 Posted 22/05/2013 at 02:16:53
8 Posted 22/05/2013 at 02:24:16
I personally see his talents FAR outweighing his shortcomings, but I accept this is not what everyone feels. Much better than blowing £20M on a Jordan Henderson type! I for one and very happy to hear this.
9 Posted 22/05/2013 at 02:33:59
10 Posted 22/05/2013 at 02:44:06
11 Posted 22/05/2013 at 02:59:20
Osman isn't a bad lad and at a club who could afford to carry passengers I wouldn't knock him having an extension of his contract, but we can't afford passengers and we need to bring the overall age down and to have legs in the middle of the park.
We are run like a charity eleven by a man who couldn't run a bath.
12 Posted 22/05/2013 at 03:05:32
13 Posted 22/05/2013 at 03:32:19
14 Posted 22/05/2013 at 03:18:45
Moyes has known about the Man Utd gig since late last year. He knew he'd want to take Ross with him, but didn't want to turn up to OT and ask for 20m for one of his old boys. So, he only played him sparingly, but in high profile games so that he would get a bit of notice, but not against the garbage sides so he couldn't have too many games. Now, he'll be a 10-13m pound signing instead of the 20-23 he could have been had he "done a Rooney".
15 Posted 22/05/2013 at 03:37:12
16 Posted 22/05/2013 at 05:01:47
17 Posted 22/05/2013 at 05:24:54
18 Posted 22/05/2013 at 05:49:46
So the question raises itself did Manchester Uniteds manager authorize this interference in Evertons 2013/2014 season and if so why was he allowed to do so and if not then WHO did authorize it and why could it not be left for the "NEW' manager to confirm who HE wants or does not want at Everton. Seems the 'NEW' managers authority has already been compromised by a useless incompetent Billy Liar.
19 Posted 22/05/2013 at 05:58:20
20 Posted 22/05/2013 at 06:02:23
21 Posted 22/05/2013 at 07:41:42
Or maybe the 'new' manager did make the decision from within?
Whats the beting Stoke install a new manager fairly pronto and Billy fucking Liar is still prancing about mourning Moyes.
22 Posted 22/05/2013 at 07:49:47
If he walked on a free would the snipers applaud, fucking probably
Well done Everton well done Osman.
Ps sorry if I sound arsey, lack of sleep
23 Posted 22/05/2013 at 07:52:08
However, if true, an explanation may be that a contract extension was agreed some time ago (gentlemans agreement etc) but Kenwright and Moyes said they would sign the papers at end of the season.
Now the rug has been pulled out from beneath this agreement Osman has possibly, rightly, gone to Kenwright and said 'we had a deal' and Bill has rightly kept his side of the bargain. If the above is the case, and Bill had left Osman in limbo and gone back on his word he really would be the definition of scumbag.
So, who knows, personally I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt on this one.
24 Posted 22/05/2013 at 07:59:39
Oh wait, we don't have to imagine.... we've seen it before.
25 Posted 22/05/2013 at 08:07:58
26 Posted 22/05/2013 at 08:08:38
The question is who - GIVEN WE HAVE NO MANAGER - put the contract in front of him?
If it was Manchester United's manager, it IS a disgrace.
Same applies if it was our Chairman.
Mike Green (150) you make a fair point re what MIGHT have been agreed in the past, but the fact is, a new manager is about to be appointed and if this manager doesn't want/rate Osman, Everton will end up paying a couple of years wages that could have been saved.
We are constantly being told football is 'a business' and we also know our club doesn't have a pot to piss in.
These lads are all fantastically well-paid and they know in football, players move, managers come and go and when they do, things change.
Osman could have (and should have) been told "You know score Ossie, new face coming in, we'll have to hang fire on the extension".
And by the way even if you DO rate him highly, it's not as if there are/were bids (or even ONE bid) coming in for him and putting pressure on us, so again, from a business perspective, dumb and amateurish and smacks of 'jobs for the boys'.
27 Posted 22/05/2013 at 08:39:59
Osman was a key player for the club earlier in the season (admittedly faded later on post England call up), but we need a squad and if you don't renew players contracts they tend to leave. For nothing. Would that be preferred?
RE: this conspiracy about not playing Barkley because he's going to take him to Utd. Do you seriously believe that? Barkley's nowhere near consistent enough to be a premier league player yet. He's played a part in 5-6 matches this season and only really impressed in one of those for my money (Spurs), in EVERY game though he has played the team into trouble with careless passes in dangerous areas.
I can see from the comments that many on here here would be happier if we'd done a Villa and skirted relegation by playing our youth extensively rather than making a serious and sustained challenge for Europe, but I guess that's the sort of tactical naivity that has seen Moyes be picked for one of the biggest managerial jobs in the world.
28 Posted 22/05/2013 at 08:49:41
Eugene, if the new manager doesn't want Osman, he's tied to a longer contract and so we'll be able to command a bigger transfer fee.
Given that he's a current England international who is commanding respect and positive attention around the Premier League, it just seems obvious that you'd protect him as an asset.
Elsewhere on this site people are moaning about David Moyes seeing out his contract and leaving for nothing. It's the same issue, only this time the club have got it right.
29 Posted 22/05/2013 at 08:58:05
The biggest problem I would have with Barkley leaving would be who we sign with the transfer money!!! He is not the player everyone hoped he would be yet. I think its very unlikely anyway, utd can pretty much have the pick of any midfielder in the world, why sign an expensive youngster who has yet to actually show anything more than promise?
30 Posted 22/05/2013 at 08:55:36
If I'm right though Im not sure Osman should pay for the incompetence of the board and be left 'tucked up', particularly as Moyes has benefitted out of not signing his extension?
Having said that Osman should've probably pushed the point whilst we had a manager in place, and if they'd said 'cant sign until Moyes commits' then that's just tough luck re timing for Osman so your view probably edges it. I doubt if he's going to go short in the long run and there's a good chance he'd get the deal any way.
Either way, more funny business at GP, and possible warning shots the next man in charge might take heed noticing.
31 Posted 22/05/2013 at 09:02:48
I wonder how Martinez rates him. Seems like his type of player. I watched a documentary on BBC1 (Wales?) called 'The fall and rise of Swansea City' last night. Great story, and for me it reinforced my belief that RM is the right man for Everton. He introduced the Swans to the style of football they are known for today. Then there is the Pulis model. Pragmatic but terrible to watch. I hope BK is brave enough to pick a footballing manager and not just a safe pair of hands!
32 Posted 22/05/2013 at 09:16:52
Does Kenwright actually watch the game? This news really has depressed me.
33 Posted 22/05/2013 at 09:26:45
34 Posted 22/05/2013 at 09:36:19
Exactly, it all could have been done the RIGHT way by the new manager (or by the old one for that matter).
And by the way, I'm actually not one of those who could be described (probably by the hysterical Chris James) as 'an Ossie hater'.
My view on his playing ability is basically 'he's ok..sometimes'.
Plus I'm aware that players (like him) who often get it in the neck from supporters don't select themselves.
35 Posted 22/05/2013 at 10:02:52
36 Posted 22/05/2013 at 10:27:07
Bucking the trend of other posts on here I'm all for it. Ossy is either insignificant or brilliant when he plays for Everton and I'd much rather see him get a contract extension than Heitinga, Naismith or Jelavic.
37 Posted 22/05/2013 at 10:40:25
However, I hope the new manager can spot that it may be appropriate to bring him off when he's blowing out his arse.
38 Posted 22/05/2013 at 10:37:34
39 Posted 22/05/2013 at 10:57:18
40 Posted 22/05/2013 at 11:00:53
Ossie is frustrating at times but a decent little player who has played a lot of games in the first team for us. He doesn't have much pace to rely on so I can't see his game deteriorating in the next few years. He more than deserves a years extension although I hope he won't have to start quite as many games next season as he did this one.
41 Posted 22/05/2013 at 11:10:10
Ozzie was not going anywhere (he would have been 33 next summer when his old contract would have run out), so the club (and new manager) would have had all summer to sort out a new deal – giving the new manager time to assess if he actually wanted the guy or not beyond another year.
He still had a year left which would have taken him to 33 – certainly a strange one as there was absolutely no time pressure on the club to do this now – without a manager. Personally I cannot see him making that many appearances in the 14/15 season – otherwise we would have not moved forward at all.
42 Posted 22/05/2013 at 11:16:16
43 Posted 22/05/2013 at 11:24:59
Surely he would be expected to survey, his staff & players, and then act.
If its not Moyes who has pushed this thru? Then who?
44 Posted 22/05/2013 at 11:23:28
On the real subject, you only have to read the pro-Osman posts on here to figure out that he isn't good enough. Almost every single one has excuses laced within. Slow, can't shoot (broken clock and all that logic), falls over, isn't fit. There's four MASSIVE strikes in a midfielder's attributes.
45 Posted 22/05/2013 at 11:33:47
46 Posted 22/05/2013 at 11:58:29
47 Posted 22/05/2013 at 12:00:35
Exactly, that (and only that) should be what people concern themselves with.
What anyone thinks of Osman (good or bad) is completely irrelevant.
48 Posted 22/05/2013 at 12:15:14
49 Posted 22/05/2013 at 12:14:50
Some of you are determined to dig out conspiracy theories from every item on this site at the moment and it's getting a bit dull now. Maybe ToffeeWeb should shut down until a new manager is in place and the theories/conspiracies and the I know more than you crap can start afresh
50 Posted 22/05/2013 at 12:50:36
.......Vitor Pereira is now favourite as short as 5/2 with some of the bookies.
51 Posted 22/05/2013 at 12:48:48
52 Posted 22/05/2013 at 12:52:54
53 Posted 22/05/2013 at 13:12:21
54 Posted 22/05/2013 at 13:17:01
As long as the new manager isn't Tony Pulis then there is absolutely no reason whatsoever why the new gaffer would not want Leon Osman on a longer deal.
57 Posted 22/05/2013 at 13:25:08
58 Posted 22/05/2013 at 13:48:15
59 Posted 22/05/2013 at 13:11:41
60 Posted 22/05/2013 at 14:04:42
Talk about missing the point.
Maybe someone should post a 'How do you rate Osman as a footballer?' thread.
Presumably that would turn into "Who the fuck actually gave the player the extension and when and why?" (ie: what this discussion should be).
And if your response is 'does it matter?' - yes of course it fucking does.
Especially if the new manager has no place for him (and given we're potless).
61 Posted 22/05/2013 at 14:18:44
63 Posted 22/05/2013 at 14:55:59
As to the first question you mention, that would be a thread I would stay well clear of because it would undoubtedly be filled with even more nonsense and personal abuse than usual on here.
64 Posted 22/05/2013 at 16:51:53
65 Posted 22/05/2013 at 17:11:45
66 Posted 22/05/2013 at 17:30:27
67 Posted 22/05/2013 at 17:24:20
Good business by the club in my book for a player who has contributed 8 goals from midfield this season and is a crucial cog in our developing 'passing' game, that has been so pleasing on the eye this season. His clever play, quick feet and ability to hold possession and link up with Pienaar, Baines and Fellaini is often overlooked.
Most recent example I recall is the one-two he played with Mirallas, followed by a perfectly weighted pass to play Coleman in to cross for Pienaar to slot home the only goal of the game v Fulham recently. Also see his goal v Larissa on YouTube anytime you need cheering up. It is easy to see why he is not every fan's cup of tea as at times he looks slow and jaded and has the look of a player forced to play through an injury, but I think he is well worth adding an extra year to his contract.
Hoping that next year, he can be rested more, giving Barkley opportunities in midfield. Surprised by those who disagree with the move, as so many seemed at odds with the club over the Gosling contract run-down fiasco - which in fact turned out to be a blessing is disguise - 16 games for Newcastle in 3 seasons.
68 Posted 22/05/2013 at 20:34:29
Moyes, Why extend his contract when you are leaving? Take him with you and give him two years at Man utd!
Why not?
I'll tell you why because he is nowhere near good enough at the top level, especially now his legs are fading and stamina & strength an issue. He can only get worse not better.
Osman was the weak link in midfield and now were stuck with him?
Says it all doesn't it?
69 Posted 22/05/2013 at 20:41:11
70 Posted 22/05/2013 at 21:02:46
Steve Edwards (96) Chill out, he's a current England international.
No he ain't 'current', he didn't get into the last squad.
Quite frankly I would like him to leave for Stoke or Wigan
I agree that this (IF it has happened) should have waited until the new gaffer slips into the hot seat.
If Parbold's finest is indeed to stay, my hunch is that he might not be the sort of scriptural fave he was under SAF's taxi-mate. I suspect he will spend more time on the bench.
This will be no bad thing. He has nous to pass on and can't last the length of a game these days.
I would love to see some late spring cleaning once the new gaffer picks up the reins: Holy Entwistle let him be the one from Porto or the one from Bilbao. I would like to see his style and his style of player setting the tone for what is to come.
This could be a really exciting time to be blue, these next couple of months. If it is to be Pereira it will be. Fresh players, fresh minds, fresh flair.
And then I want it to be Man-U at home opening day of 2013-2014.
71 Posted 22/05/2013 at 22:12:53
72 Posted 22/05/2013 at 22:56:11
It's time to have a Spring-clean but signing Osman to a two year deal is a bad start.
74 Posted 23/05/2013 at 16:57:09
And I nearly spat my coffee out seeing some of the reactions above. Loads of CAPITALS going off, words such as 'disgrace' flying around. As far as I have known, Kenwright has always taken responsibility for players contracts. I sincerely hope Ossie retires here, and its good to see Everton again showing loyalty towards players that have spent their career here. Could you imagine United kicking Scholes out a year before he has decided to retire? Or similarly with Carragher? I think it sends out a positive message to the world that we look after our own.
75 Posted 23/05/2013 at 17:39:29
Also, Scholes and Carragher have won things, which makes for a slightly stronger loyalty card.
76 Posted 23/05/2013 at 18:13:11
78 Posted 23/05/2013 at 20:26:46
79 Posted 23/05/2013 at 20:42:46
80 Posted 23/05/2013 at 20:49:30
81 Posted 23/05/2013 at 20:58:23
Gavin is talking nonsense, just because we loaned Osman out, it doesn't mean he didn't come through our youth ranks, that's what most teams do with their youth to get them the required experience. I think what Gavin is reffering to when he says: When ever did we see Moyes do that before? I think he's talking about Ross Barkley
82 Posted 24/05/2013 at 03:32:24
83 Posted 24/05/2013 at 05:49:57
So what have we got with Mr "Fast Feet' a 'powder puff' player who cant shoot and has not got the stamina NOW to perform reliably for 90 minutes . If he is so knackered NOW just think how much worse he will be in 3 years time.
The only conclusion to draw is that Everton are in the hands of morons.
84 Posted 24/05/2013 at 07:21:39
If he was sold for anything less than £4m, most everton fans would be outraged. The idea that he was worth only a million is a bit of a joke.
85 Posted 24/05/2013 at 09:29:57
The only conclusion to draw is that ToffeeWeb has a moronic tendency who write as clearly as they think
86 Posted 24/05/2013 at 09:43:09
87 Posted 24/05/2013 at 09:44:39
88 Posted 24/05/2013 at 11:32:06
90 Posted 24/05/2013 at 14:32:02
Who is going to accept the job if our best players are sold before they take charge? Ah well there's always Ossie.
91 Posted 24/05/2013 at 14:51:11
A very good chance this is space-filler guesswork as, even though I believe The Guardian to be the best paper out there, there is virtually no way anyone (other than The Amazing Kreskin) knows what anyone else is or isn't 'weighing up'.
Weighing up is done inside the head and I'm fairly sure the paper doesn't have access to the inside of Moyes' napper
Of course if he SAID "I'm weighing up....." - that would be different.
But he didn't, so I'm not going to get hot under the collar about it.....yet.
However should he come for Fellaini/Baines/Barkley, I personally will consider it a huge kick in the bollocks and will consider all the 'special relationship with Everton' stuff to be just a load of wank.
The reality is, he now has an incredible squad of players at his disposal including a great under 21 side
He has money to spend and his pick of practically any player on the planet.
Plus he knows how important certain players are to us.
If he's the decent man I've always believed him to be (despite wanting him gone) and his words DO mean something, he'll leave our squad alone.
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1 Posted 22/05/2013 at 00:20:54
Now will he get stuck with someone he might not seem fit for his play, and with this age he is like unsalable. If this is Moyes who do this, then he should be removed from office right away. What he do now is abusing this clubs finances in a wasteful way. It's like he want to fuck it up for us before he leave... IF it is him throwing around this contract and maybe others.