Survey shows enthusiasm for foreign appointment

I sent an email to his office. I wasn't expecting anything to come of it, so I was surprised to get a reply (from some sort of secretary or customer service employee), saying that they had forwarded it to Bill Kenwright. Unfortunately, I told him I wanted Martinez (oops!). He'd just won the FA Cup, and I must've got caught up in all the hype!! In hindsight, I wish I'd have said Pereira, Laudrup, or Bielsa. Ah well, to be fair, Martinez would be my 4th choice....

I don't understand this fetish for "consultation". A substantial minority of football fans are fucking idiots, anyway: what do they know? How many people who voted for Pereira actually know anything about him? Exactly.

I also believe that there are many fans of the club who know a lot more about the modern game and the managers available than our luvvie chairman does and he would do well to listen to such an intelligent clued-up fan base.

And besides - he said he would listen to us. I heard him say it. He has an opportunity to show that he can be a man of his word. His track record in this department is pretty poor to say the least.

Couldn't we just have a 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice - each receiving 3, 2 and 1 point(s) respectively. Then we could actually see who Everton fans want to manage our club.

There was no point in simply listing all available British/Foreign managers. There were too many, and some were pointless. (Kenny Jackett!) The survey needed to start with a broad base and then narrow it down to a handful of choices.

As it stands, it tells us very little.

I understand your logic, obviously, but I don't buy it at all. I don't trust Kenwright to get this appointment right, but equally I am unqualified to advise him on a suitable candidate. As I said, I don't particularly wish to be consulted; I merely expect him to make the right decision or to employ the right people to make a suitable recommendation.

Is this the one that took a small NE club to three cup finals including one in europe?

And won the league with a small Dutch club ahead of the likes of Ajax and PSV?
Just asking like......

It baffles me how you can accuse fellow Evertonians of not knowing anything about Vitor Pereira?!!? We live in a technological age, in which it's pretty quick and easy to find out about these things. Anyway, I'll give you a brief explanation as to why we've got our hearts set on him:

Vitor Pereira, "I am a tactical coach. I like my teams to have total control, of the ball, of the game, I like to see my teams pressing very aggressively, very high up the pitch. The important thing is the balance between the attacking and defensive elements, but pressing high is the best way to defend. We have had the best defence in Portugal for the last two years.
There are two parts to our job. One is to find the young players before other clubs do. And then the other part is to help develop them. We look in countries where players tend to have creativity in their game, and my job is to teach them the tactics, the organisation, that you need to thrive in Europe. It is an honour for me to have worked with so many fantastic players. It is a point of pride to see them move on, to a better league, because it is a mark of my work. But the problem is that every year the best players are sold; we cannot build a team. Every year, we start again."

He's a proven winner. He speaks fluent English. He's used to working within a tight budget; he prefers to develop young players rather than buying a 'finished article'. I think he's only lost one league game in his 2 years at Porto. He already plays a similar style of football to our current crop of players, i.e. pressing high up the pitch (N.B. This season, Everton spent a higher proportion of time in the opposing half than any other team in the Premier League!) This means there'll be a certain amount of continuity if he gets the job, as he won't need to make wholesale changes to the playing staff.

On the down side, he has no Premier League experience, so he is a gamble! Having said that, if he had all of the credentials mentioned above, and he had a good record in the Prem aswell, he'd probably be the one replacing Alex Ferguson, not David Moyes!!

For example, BK might want to bring in VP but he won't accept the job due to limited transfer budget or whatever. I can see a scenario where say we end up with a British manager. by default unfortunately.

Here is another interesting fact: we have not won a trophy since 1995, nor looked like winning one.
Time for a change of direction

Excellent comeback, Paul. It certainly made me chuckle....

We're already at a financial disadvantage compared to the teams around us. If we limit ourselves to only selecting a manager from a list of ex-players, it'd be like turning up to the gunfight with both hands tied behind our back!!

"It baffles me how you can accuse fellow Evertonians of not knowing anything about Vitor Pereira..."

I haven't "accused" anyone of anything; I merely suggested that Pereira is the new flavour of the month, based on.... what? He has won one of the minor European leagues in a two-horse race.

I had never heard of him two weeks ago.
Thanks to your post, however, I now know a little more.

if it's him good luck to him, and we'll all back him, I just don't think that if it is an internal appointment -Pip or Stubbs - that this is a big problem, and no I'm not a BK apologist, I want him gone, but on this occasion, somebody who understands how the club works is maybe not the worst idea, and I'm sure Neville or Stubbs would have their own ideas to introduce gradually, for all those who say they didn't like Moyes style of football, Phil Neville wasnt brought up on bad football was he?

My first choice was (and I say, was) Laudrup, but again, never gonna happen, so that takes me back to Pereira - off the back of the Mourinho/AVB mould it would seem a good appointment, but that's all we have to go on, right?

Even with all that in mind, I don't see a better option - Martinez would be a massive backward step in my opinion. The man cannot see the flaws in his teams (defending, clearly) and never addressed the issue once during his time in the PL with Wigan.

He flirted with relegation every year as a result, and I have never understood what all the fuss was about regarding him. I really hope he makes his decision today, as per all reports that he'll make his mind up today and choose anyone but Everton.

Pereira is a free agent. We have no money. He wants to come to PL apparently. We're the next best job in the PL apart from CIty, which is a bit of a poisoned chalice anyway, for a man of his stature, so I think we're about perfect for him, and he's about perfect for us.

He isn't an 'Everton manager'.

No one knows this Pereira, yet he's winning votes over Guss Hiddink, that's scary! More frightening than what Ian(711) is suggesting about people voting for established Englishman like Joe Royle

We're is the PC brigade now, when it seems only a foreigner is classed as modern an intelligent and Englishman with proven success are thought to be thickos and past it.

It seems a lot of our fans will jump on any passing bandwagon. I'm not saying a good foreigner would not be the right appointment but I can't agree with question; should the manager be foreign. Like being foreign is a quality in itself.

So come on PC brigade, jump all over that one. Just like you did the poor guy who got banned, for calling Saha French.

Why does a change of direction have to be a continental manager?

This does happen to rule out all the former Everton players though – but it would be great if any of them showed the drive to leave the club, gain that necessary experience, and be in the running for the job next time around – and a number of homegrown managers like O'Neil who don't seem to have developed over the last few years.

It doesn't have to be Pereira, Tuchel or Martinez, they just seem to embody a lot of the necessary characteristics and qualifications for a club with ambition – a club that really does believe that nothing but the best is good enough.

I hope to fuck Bill Kenwright doesn't read ToffeeWeb.

What if, after interviewing everyone, including all the foreigners, it turns out Duncan Ferguson is truly the most outstanding candidate, with the deepest knowledge of the game and most enthusiastic with innovative ideas on how to move the club forward, more progressive even than Pereira even? What then?

Foreign or British should have no bearing on the matter. And even though I don't trust BK, it's in his interest more than anyone else's to get this right.

Also, a top foreign manager will just be using us as a stepping-stone to get to a top club. An Evertonian may actually stay loyal if he's successful.

My choices are not based on them being foreign but what they have achieved and what they could possibly achieve with their ideas and brand of football.

Then again most our fans would not want him to. They'd applaud him as he defected and allowed speculation to run rife about him taking our best players whilst we're still paying him.