'There is a list, but no favourite'

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11671/8741348/Bill-Kenwright-Roberto-Martinez-not-the-only-candidate-for-Everton-job

Was interesting to hear him say he's interviewed a couple of lads out of contract?

Pareira surely one but who else, Biesla?

Finally it's safe to say that it's the media and especially SSN who put the Martinez favourite spin on things.

No more of a favourite than Mackay and Lennon.....oh shit!

I wonder who they other candidates on the list are. One other and an internal probably?

From that interview:

Mr Chairman: "The great thing is fans telling me you didn`t let us down with the last manager"

I thought his bird picked the last manager? She looks like she may be considering the credentials of the baldy geezer in the photo on link? It`s not Steve Kean is it?

Don't be at it, Bill!!!!

Possibly an opening gambit when it comes to the salary and transfer budget Martinez wants?

Did anyone else think the usual drama acting voice had been dropped ?

They won't give anything away this time until Rubbeerrrrtooor has signed on the dotted line!!

He also manages to have a dig at the plumbers and electricians who support Everton! Why them I don't know, perhaps they could form a separate group and unite against Kenwright.

Have posted some previous comments saying I am a Pereira fan. I wouldn't say that I am a Portuguese football expert but I had heard of him before 2 weeks ago. I knew before that he took over from AVB at Porto 2 years back and was regarded by many as the tactician behind AVBs success. He took over and has taken 2 consecutive titles since, beating no mugs in Benfica.

There are comments about his unpopularity with some Porto fans but I think a large part of that is down to the fact that he has less charisma than an AVB or Mourinho previously. Porto had been a bit spoilt before. Pereira has had to deal with Porto star players being sold, such as Falcao. Am not too bothered that he might be less media friendly than a Mourinho, infact that might be a good thing.

There have been comparisons between the SPL and Portuguese league and yes they may both have mainly been 2 horse races. Now providing a topical analogy rather than an educational one - sometimes maybe there might be a Derby that boils down to a 2 horse race or there may be a 2 horse race in some more average affair. I know given the chance of a horse to own that I'd have the Derby horse!

Watching that clip I'd say he looks a bit lost, and as if he's been through the mill / drained by it all too. If nothing else I think he realises he's got a monster decision on his hands and he's bricking himself a bit as theres probably no stand out applicant.

He's a bit of a twerp for trotting the 'I picked David Moyes' line though, typical Kenwright showmanship. Well done for keeping it mostly close to his chest though, I bet he was bursting to tell them seeing he is the man in the know.

My bet is he'll pick his man out of RM or VP on Friday but there will be jobs for Neville / Stubbs / Weir in the background.

Plumbers and sparks of the world unite (erm maybe the 2 don't really mix - water and elec).

Still time to fuck it up though I guess!

First week he interviewed internal staff, second week a couple of lads out of contract and third week he's moved on a bit more to the likes of Martinez.

I didn't hear him say he has now narrowed it down to three?

Strange times at Goodison.

Kenwright will still cock up, he's messed up the crest, Desperation Kirkby and he'll cock up the manager.

I hope Periera is on the list, but I know Lennon and an in house is still likely. As for listening to us, phah, I'm not falling for it.

I think that Kenwright has got the support of the backroom staff Ex players stubbs , sheedy etc..........and who ever comes in needs to understand that is the Everton setup. They will most probably be able to bring in the own Assistant as most Managers do.

For Me I think Martinez is going to want to change everthing from top to bottom as he wanted to do at the shite and did at Wigan and I don't think that will fit.
Moyes spent 11 years setting the club after the shambles before him so I can not see Kenwright letting anybody rip it apart.

IMO think Martinez has to big a ego for Everton as we are always told we are a famliy Club the players say it and so does everyone within the club.

I don't think Kenwright will take a chance on signing a Manager with Ego that might think he is bigger than the club.

I don't know if you've ever seen the film House Of Games?

It's a David Mamet film about con-men and cons (a subject that it seems fascinates the writer/director).

Anyway, it's a very entertaining film in which certain things are explained about con-men.

One of the things we learn is about the word con (short for confidence).

It is explained that it is a misconception that the con man tries to gain your confidence.

It turns out he's called a confidence man because he let's you into HIS confidence.

He appears to tell you everything about himself and want nothing from you.

If he can achieve this, he has you where he wants you.

Added to this is friendliness and openness - you don't put a 'mark' off by being bad-tempered.

And if he can convince you of all thi, you're basically primed.

The story also explains that you can learn the tricks but the GREAT con man is a natural, he's born to it.

In the film we see some fantastic tricks/cons played on people to relieve them of their money, all by people who are 100% plausible.

Of course when they realise what has happened, it's too late.

Just thought it worth mentioning like.

As Chris Keightly pointed out .... Time to appease.

How long will it last though?

BK has a golden opportunity to go some way to win back some kudos by appointing someone who will take us forward and into Europe and I refuse to believe he doesn't want that for EFC. He would certainly want it for his ego.

My mother in laws favourite saying to me is "a leopard cannot change his spots". She was referring to me I think. Don't know why.

I truly believe that the 'Sin Miedo' (without fear) philosophy Martinez promotes is desperately required if we ever want to see silverware again.

We have seen our players drilled to keep things tight, be happy with a draw, but are they playing to their full potential? Will Jelavic suddenly score 15-20 goals next season? Can we go to Old Trafford and roll them over?

Martinez is an intelligent, 'next generation' manager. He will give good value in the transfer market, and apparently lives & breathes the game - no golfing in the week for this guy.

Here is what one of his ex-players recently said about him ;

Meanwhile, Wigan defender Gary Caldwell believes Martinez has the potential to become one of the best managers around.

"He wants to play football the right way and gives players the freedom to do that and gives you great belief in what you are trying to do," Caldwell told Sky Sports News.

"I think tactically he is one of the best I have worked with. I think he showed that in the Cup final playing against a great Man City team, I think tactically he out-thought Mancini on the day and he won that battle, and I think he can do that in most games.

"He thinks about the game, he is very passionate about the game and players respond to him and give him all they've got.

"I think definitely he has got the potential to do that [become a top manager].

"He is a very young manager still and has got a lot of experience behind him, and that can only be good for him and furthering his career."

It may all end in tears - but I would rather see any Everton side go out to win, no matter who the opposition are.

True, but with a can of spray-paint, someone else could easily change them for him.

(for can of spray-paint, see 23,000 votes on a petition)

That'd be Mourhino and Pulis I reckon

"You organising the factions already Ross ?"

No Ged, just making a statement.

So why did Wigan get relegated?

More likley to be the 'O' please tell me its not true - O'Leary and O'Neil.

There's some horror stories lurking in there....

Agree, it happens when people feel empowered. Bit like an Arab spring or a Velvet Revolution.

His Record at Wigan :
Played 152 - Won 38 - Lost 71 - Draw - 43 - Points - 157 over 4 seasons

Ex players can say waht ever they want (Rooney Did) doesn't Change his record in the prem.

In 4 season he spent £32 million on players including £5 Million on Ramis ??? £4 Million Habis ??? £6.5 Milllion on Boselli -

Sold £43 Million Including Valencia £16 Million - Moses £9 Million and Zogbia £9 Million

Never finish Above 15th

Moyes for instance Sold £122 Million Spend £122 Million

His record is very very poor Look at WBA for a comparsion same sort of team Spend £6.5 Million since coming back up and have 11th 10th 8th...eh?

All this No fear shit doesn't cut it for me - The only "No Fear" we will need is walking under the tunnel trying to get to Millwall Away or should Bag up after pulling in doncaster after a game.

But he was 35 when he took that job, isn't it possible he has learnt from his mistakes? You can be good manager at the wrong club you know. They are a rugby town pretending they like footy.

Liverpool & Villa were desperate to sign this guy, surely he must be well thought of inside the game?

I think an internal appointment would be a disaster.

I suppose I am a Martinez fan, not a staunch, blind faith in him fan but a fan. I am not anti Pereira but I am wary for reasons I have stated elsewhere. John Jones seems to suggest that one cross against Martinez is his transfer dealings, I see this a positive though. Boselli was a disaster but Al-Habsi was a success and Ramis, though he suffered a serious injury, isn't a disaster I wouldn't say?

If it is a young Manager you want Periera is 45 and worked from the bottom up.

http://www.uefa.com/teamsandplayers/coaches/coach=71773/profile/index.html

Eddie Howe?
Dougie Freedman or Lee Clarke both done good jobs at the respected clubs and have the balls to Manage in the championship.

I am not dead against Martinez just very very worried that he will changed to much and sign half the wigan side and we will ship goals for fun

Regarding "the list", wasn't it reported Mancini was quite divisive and uncommunicative with his players? Beside we haven't zillions for him to spend.

Gullit and Vialli, what are they upto these days. Seem to recall Gullit had problems in the dressing room as well.

DiMatteo. Like this guy, did it with Chelski under difficult circumstances (Abramovich) but had the backing of the Players. Try's to play attractive football but is pragmatic as well.

But as with all the choices, there is no Mr Perfect, it will always be a compromise.

Then it occurred to me that Michael was probably referring to 'vigilant' hawks.....

If Martinez has a degree in Business Studies it might worry BK, but The Board are looking for someone who can run the whole show and this might tip the scales in his favour. Weir recommended Jelly and Naismith which rules him out for me.

My point about Martinez signings wasn't that they were bad I picked a few I thought he over paid. Just this he is great becuase he was manager at Wigan and they are a small club rubbish. McCarthy and McAthur are 2 top Midfielders.

I think that most clubs Outside Utd, Citeh, Spurs , Le Arse , Shite and Chelski are in the Same Boat regarding Money and Wages.

Everton Might be able to attract better Know Players but that doesn't mean that they are a good player. Coleman v Boswanga for instance.

Also Whelan backed his manager with wages because there is no way that 11,000 at home every match could pay for a prem squad.

My Point is I think that Martinez is very Overrated

He must of thought "fuck it, we are favourites for the drop, we may as well go down fighting."

Managing us is a lot more high profile, and his reputation would probably be in shreds if he fucks up. I think he would be a little more cautious, but still play enough attacking football to please the fans.

Ah the rewards of failure, wander if their fans will be queuing up outside their gates cheering and waving aka transfer day deadline. A marriage made to suit I think.

IMWT

So his reputation will be in tatters if he f***ks up. Yes, and we will be in the playing in the championship.

He has often stated he will not compromise on his attacking philosophy. No fear etc.

I want someone who will kick down the front door yet leave the back one securely locked.

Al-HAbsi is a solid goalkeeper. 3-4m is a decent amount I think

Boselli- Nobody can sugar coat that one, fair play!

Overall I don't think he has done bad with any. Lets be honest Wigan have to look for players on four fronts, lowish transfer, low wages and who are happy playing in the north of England ( an issue for foreign players in comparison with the likes of Fulham, qpr etc.) and play for a small club with small fanbase. For all the financial problems of EFC we pay decent wages and have a reasonable pull with our history and current playing squad

Thought Bill handled the interview well... chuckling about the "plumbers and electricians" who had applied for the job as well.

Good point... his record of picking managers is 1 for 1, and nobody was excited about Moyes when he was hired. So I'm willing to give plenty of slack to whoever he chooses.

Maybe he deserves a chance, at least he does not play hoof-ball, and seems to be man of ideas. I'm as big a fan of DM as they come, but we cant talk a candidate down just for the perception that he may want to make significance changes. changes will have to come in some shape of form, a manager has to cast their personality onto the term and how they play.

Dwelling upon that last sentence, I emphasises, I think there are much worse people on the list than Martinez.

I was under the impression that Martinez had actually resigned - presumptions, presumptions!! Not sure if anyone else is in the same boat but just seen a BBC article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2332687/Roberto-Martinez-meets-Everton-chairman-Bill-Kenwright-London-talks-Goodison-Park-move.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Part of it states:

Whelan told BBC Radio 5 live on Tuesday afternoon: "Roberto has resigned. We are going to release him." However Wigan later released a statement saying Martinez remained their manager but had been given permission to talk to another club.

So maybe BK right with no favourite yet!

If we appoint Martinez, then expect the kind of horror shows we saw playing in Europe against teams from Portugal, which were seen by millions on live TV... Jeez, never, ever again, please God!

Be brave for once, Bill & back a manager with a winning mentality, a thinker, a talker, a planner, a grafter, a fucking winner! Welcome to Goodison a man with real fight,to get this club back in the hunt for some fucking silverware at long last. The Porto fella will do us fine & won't cost us £2 million either – job done!

I have full faith in our beloved chairman to find the right man — he must have found a little bit of time in his 24 / 7 search for investors to do the interviewing!

Up The Toffee's!

Saw this buffoon on SSN last night going on about a list....I'd love to know who all these Evertonians are that he keeps saying he speaks too...90% of whom are telling him to go with his gut instinct about the new manager because he made such a great choice last time...are these the same imaginary Evertonians he and Elstone spoke to about the new badge...If that's the case the hello Dream Team

I can just see it now...SSN Press Conference on Friday...Bullshit Billy to the onlooking journo's..."I've appointed Phil/Stubbsey/Weiry & Big Dunc because in my gut it just felt right so I went with it...after all that's what 90% of Evertonians told me to do...go with my gut instinct..." FUCK OFF YOU LYING BASTARD...90% MY ARSE !!

I just do not trust this simpleton one bit and I just know he's going to fuck this up !!

but we just know it WILL be....

That said, I'd have Martinez or Periera over all of them.

Secondly, I don't think he's done such a 'great' job at Swansea. They played well at times and rolled over at others.

Not to mention a £10million payment and the fact that he doesn't want to come to us.

In fact it could be argued the sky favourites could not care less any more about the FA cup or league cup. They concentrate on qualifying for the champions league.

Aka Wigan and Swansea. If Wigan had not been sidetracked by the FA cup would they have survived the drop? Like wise if Swansea had concentrated on league form would they have achieved a higher league position. Swansea's form did take a dive after winning the league cup (or whatever it's called this year).

How a team performs over the league season is my measurement or yardstick.

The choice is not straightforward so BK is on a hiding to nothing whomever he picks.
Just get it right, so no pressure there then, eh Bill.