Martínez free to take players with him to Everton

Kone is too injury prone I reckon.

Lets get out there and get some proper talented players. Surely if we're going to be considered as a decent team then that's the wrong direction. Let's have a right side to match the left and a decent striker although I think Mirallas can do that job given the chance. Jelavic last season played like Andy van der Meyde.

What defender? Where did you get the info?

If Martinez does become manager and his first signing is a 30 year old centre half from a relegated team just so we can play 3-5-2 when we have struggled to find half a decent striker let alone 2 then it hardly feels like a good start to this brave new dawn..

I suppose it summer, I could try and ignore all this rubbish until the new season.. Not that I'd manage that.

in an ideal world that would probably be right. But

a) he should already know what players we have/have not got through usual scouting and opponent analysis, actually playing us, etc

b) the players are on holiday and wont be back till pre-season, so there is nothing to assess

c) we need to get looking at targets and be ready to buy as soon as we can before everyone else does - a change of manager shouldn't leave us behind the game

I'd prefer we didn't take any of wigans team. But I think its likely that we will take maybe 1, just as I think Man Utd will probably take 1 of ours. Managers like to work with players they know well.

Secondly, lets wait for Martinez to be confirmed. It's probable he will be but clearly not a done deal.

Thirdly, assuming RM is confirmed then I agree with those saying we shouldn't be taking their defenders with all the indiscipline they clearly have, plus any of his defensive coaching staff.

Finally we need to see who is going to leave from GP before we start splashing cash, as I think we are going to need at least one midfielder to replace Felli and probably a left back too. A striker who can score goals wouldn't go amiss either

Look at our team? Look at the youth players who 18,19,20,21 all knocking on the door and were never given a chance by Moyes (Giibo said it in the Irish press)

I would take McCarthy and McArthur but do we need them?
We have Barkley and Lundstrum

I would not want one denfender from them.

McManaman everyone is raving about him of 1 game.

Surely Martinez or hopefully who ever comes in will look at the squad and see that we need a striker or give McAleny o go. and just more numbers.

Whilst I can agree with some of your points I can't see how much he'd know about Duffy, for instance, when we know very little ourselves. OK, he may have had a good scouting network at Wigan but unless he sees how Duffy would react to HIS training/coaching I can't see how Martinez could make a subjective assessment on Duffys' ability or his attitude. In view of the fact that Martinez has yet to be confirmed as our next manager we aren't really in a position to look at any targets on whom to spend the £ 35.95p that Bill found in his glove box. And, yes, there aren't that many of Wigan's players I'd bother with and none of what was laughably referred to as their defence.

I suspect that McManaman will be very over valued after his cup final display. Can see Whelan asking for £10m at least which, when you think that Mirallas was about £5m and was a proven European player, seems too much to me.

The other one I would be interested in would be McCarthy who IS a proven Premiership player but who is quite a similar player to Gibson and who we would probably only need if we sold fellaini. If we can get him for under £8m then I think he would be a good acquisition but I suspect he may be going for around £12m which would suggest to me that a better value European alternative such as Strootman, Capoue, Fer or Eriksen may be preferable.

Kone is almost 30 and in my opinion not worth the £6.2m of his release clause at that age.

If Bobby can get a good deal on these Wigan players (perhaps because they are desperate to play for him?!) then fair enough but I don't think these players will be as cheap as we need them to be.

If you add in that players will likely ask to leave so as to move back to the premiership and that Wigan will look to reduce their wage bill, I don't think we would need to pay that much for McManaman or McCarthy - main problem will be if other clubs decide to come for them either of them as well. Hopefully Martinez can persuade them that EFC is where they should go to. If we can get them then our midfield is sorted.

Jut need a striker, goalkeeper and central defender to replace JH.

The talk is McCarthy McManaman & Kone – them three alone in his estimations would cost £30M. We would have to sell Fellaini and Baines to get them; in my estimation, they would improve the side only if Fellaini and Baines were to stay.

Living in Australia, I can only get info from our kid in Wavertree and he reckons there was an article in the Mirror valuing Bainsey at £10M. What a friggin' joke — put another £10M on top of that!! Why do the media always undervalue our players?

I am not happy with Martinez but I will support him like all Evertonians will. We're all diehard Blues and he will see what it's like and what it means to be an Evertonian.

Right now I'm more worried about losing Baines. Sky Sports News are really pushing the immanent £10million move to United. Dramatic pictures and loud fanfare music. Makes me sick.
They are also hanging about outside Goodison where the giant badge on the stand looks magnificent.

BTW if Moyes does offer £10mil then he should be told to fuck off and stop taking the piss...Baines is currently the best left back in the Premiership (inc Ashley Cole) and he's worth much much more than £10 mil...start playing hard ball with these people and stop them walking all over us.

Whilst he's at it we should offer a straight swap...Fellaini for Rooney....lets see how much the ginger one really does rate Felliaini shall we...

It is the same as Moyes, he will be looking at a much better player now at his new employers, he won't be signing any Naismiths or Beckfords.

People asking me all day if I'm happy with our new manager and having to explain that we haven't actually signed him yet.

Or the fact that they then disagree with me. "No, I read they agreed the compensation deal". Don't you no nothing's think I'd fkin know?!!!

Or what they're going to say after he's finally confirmed and I say that I'm pissed off at us being lumbered with this useless media darling.

I hope he proves to be great, but I can't see it.

Miralles, McManaman and Maloney could make an impressive trio behind a main striker, but all quite small and similar in style and McCarthy would add to the midfield.

I don't know enough about Alcaraz to comment, and somebody did shout out for the keeper who played instead of Al-Habsi but I'm pretty sure he was only on loan so not Wigan's to sell

The 30 year old defender they are talking about in the press is Maynor Figueroa who is out of contract so would cost us nothing. I think he is a decent player and would fill the gap on the bench left by Heitinga, giving us at least £4m+ to play with. As well as centre-back he can also play as left-back, so good cover for Baines. The guy has 95 caps for Honduras and I think he would be a good, low risk, backup player to boost our numbers.

I think Maloney and Kone are both good players, but at 30 and 29 they would be too expensive to justify. Unlike Man Utd and Man City, we need to be buying players with a potential sell on value, unless we can get them in on a free.

McCarthy is Wigans best player in my opinion. An if we could get him for around £5-6m I think he would be a great addition. He is young and full of energy. McManaman looked superb in the cup final, but I don't know enough about him to say if he would be worth paying an inflated fee for. We have Mirallas on the right, so perhaps we would be better off investing elsewhere.

Don't get too caught up in what the press are spouting. They just put two and two together and print it as if they heard it from a reliable source., when in reality they are making it up!

I'm more excited about how Martinez can get some our existing players playing, than who he plans to bring in. A reinvigorated Jelavic would be like a new signing. Surely he will give Barkley more playing time and I would be interested to see what Oviedo and Vellios can do given a chance.

McCathy would cost minimum 10m and most likely McManaman wouldn't be far off that. McManaman is their best player for me and the one we should go all out for. He is also a blue. He can play up front and is an explosive player the same as Mirallas. Why not have both in the team!?

There are a few interesting free agents about. Arshavin (32) and Denielson have both just been released by Arsenal. There is Joaquin (31) and Javier Saviola (31) at Malaga, Joan Verdu (29) and Juan Forlin (25) of Espanyol or even Chris Brunt from West Brom. Ok, some of them may be past their prime, but with no transfer fee they could be useful for a season or two to fill out the squad, as long as their wage demands were reasonable. That said, I think we would be better served investing in youth.

Martinez' first job I think will be to work out if Fellaini is staying or not and to draw a line under it as that will dramatically effect our transfer plans and facilities.