Roberto wants to win more trophies

The platforms definitely there now though, it's probably the best shape I've ever seen the club in. Hopefully it wont be too long before RM picks up his 3rd trophy and the club their first in many years. It's way overdue.

I think talk is cheap. He needs to deliver if he is to have a future here in Everton and in England.

I think this is it for RM, all or nothing, because if he fails at Everton no big club will want him in the Premier League. In a way he has what it takes already, but he needs to get results.

Nice to hear good things from him, but the time has come for him to find new players for the club. I have my doubts about his winning rate, but I will give him time.

Shouldn't it be more a case of setting those dreams as (attainable) goals?

I appreciate it's fluff, but this comes from a man who stated that finishing 6th was "magnificent for a club like Everton," which is basically the same thing he said when Wigan finished 16th.

Let him come out with the positives, hopefully sign some decentl players and see where we are come mid August.

All I hope for it not to see Anichebe in our starting line up again and the youngsters given a fair crack rather than 5-10 mins here and there.

(MCarthy and McManammen would also be welcome.

So Martinez trots out soundbites and interviewers ask the same questions over and over.

I was cringing watching Everton TV the other day. The interviewer asked a variant of the same question five times in a row. Martinez just patiently answered them. I think I'd have exploded, "I've just fucking told you that!"

Most people reading what he said will get and agree with the jist of what he was trying to get across. Like Paul said, its just nice to have a positive manager now after the negativity of the last one.

Gradually releasing it like this gives me the feeling he's doing media interviews every day.

Looking forward to the panic of the first pre-season loss and the baffling transfer.

Seriously, we should start buying someone BEFORE somebody comes in for Fellaini because then it will seems like we are flush with cash and all the prices go up.

Don't know it that would work but I really like your thinking.

From his point of view, its a world cup year, and I'm sure he's looking at it as a real chance to go to Barca, Madrid, Bayern, if he has a good tournament.

Why move a year to soon to sit on the bench at City or Chelsea and put your WC chances in doubt?

Or go to the wastelands of Arsenal/Russian clubs/or a rapidly declining Man U?

And to top it all, apart from one obvious moment last season, he does seem to be happy.

Anyway, its completely irrelevant because BK doesn't have the foresight to pull boil the kettle before his cup of tea, never mind this coup.

"Although, in England, the transfer window formally opens on 1 July, transfers between clubs in the same association can take place as soon as the last competitive fixtures for the season have been played. However, many transfers will not be completed until 1 July because many players' contracts expire on 30 June."

We are probably in talks with players, but the deals will not be formalised until 1 July at the earliest. The quoted paragraph states that "transfers between clubs in the same association can take place as soon as the last competitive fixtures for the season have been played." If we are interested in signing players from the different association, we will have to remain patient until the the tranfer window of the given association is open. For instance, the summer transfer window in Japan will open on 14 July and in Zimbabwe no earlier than 15 August.

Are you SURE about that?

Have you really thought about what a three foot midget from Outer Mongolia would actually look like?

My guess is not unlike...

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00488/lee_280x390_488176a.jpg

Martinez will need a lot of backing with money to move Everton on in the league, but a cup would do nicely.

Would sign on for sod all wages and play for the jersey mind you...

• spend the 'Fer money' now as if we have no intention of doing anything else, compete on 'promising not proven' players with the rest of the 2/3rds of the Prem... keep money tight.

• Demand as much money as poss for Fellaini / Baines whoever, seen as we intend to keep them as key parts of our bigger squad.

• Accept mahoosive cash and find up and coming replacements for medium cash.

With a poker face of course.

We all know the situation at Everton: we have to wait for the TV money and can only buy when that arrives or if someone leaves – it's still closer to the end of last season than it is to the beginning of the next one, so patience is the order of the day.

If it gets to August 15th and we still haven't bought anybody then I will start to panic, but meanwhile just enjoy the sunshine and let Robbo get on with his job... well, from July 1st at any rate.

Most say something like, "To do as well as the last fella with a few cups thrown in." Nobody mentions winning the Prem or even a Top Four place. I guess they share with me the view that that's just too much to hope for. So why torture yourself with impossible dreams?

Aim for the moon you might reach the stars.

I'm not inclined to blithely 'give him the benefit of the doubt,' implicitly, as I don't regard it as a 'lost in translation,' or ESL mis-speak..

The reason? He spoke about Champions League aspirations in exactly the same terms: " A dream."

Make no mistake, I'll support him to the hilt, but after 9 top-eight finishes in 11 years, our agenda ought to be specific. Given we have supposedly acquired a more adventurous tactician, of the type that the critics of the last incumbent were repeatedly calling for, I applaud the mention of trophies; I'd simply prefer he abstain from employing words like 'dream,' in the narrative.

I think the majority of fans would be happy with a couple of domestic cups and a top 4 finish in the next 5 years. I don't think top 4 is totally unrealistic because we weren't that far away last season, we just lacked a bit of squad depth and a prolific goal scorer.

Hopefully Martinez can improve our squad and standard of football, we honestly aren't that far away squad wise from challenging top 4. I would say 5 quality players short and I know 5 quality players are very expensive, so that's why I think there's a need to sell Fellaini, this would free up much needed funds for RM.

That`s an awful lot of catch-up for the new manager to accomplish on our budget,particularly if we lose our two best players. But hope springs eternal!

I........ yeah, yeah, yeah, manager wants to win trophies. well, who doesn't. wants to play attractive football............ bla, bla, bla.

The only thing worth discussing at the moment is squad questions - transfer and contract extensions. We don't need to know what he has for dinner.

I do think perhaps we could win league. I realise unlikely but we've been 5th/6th best for years. With more positivity and tactics I think our results could improve and most importantly if we could find a grear striker. There must be an unknown striker of say Ian Wright's ilk out there.

IF we had a striker like Ian Wright then I do believe we could win league and I do think there's a chance (v slim) that we could sign a striker like that in summer - I would be v happy if we did!!!!!!

And then of course we could go on to win the Champions League. Bayern Munich must be shitting themselves.

Unless either the finances of the club or the structure of the PL changes some time soon we have absolutely no chance. Only three sides have any realistic chance of winning and I would be willing to wager my right bollock on it.

The only ray of light is that things always change, just because things are how they are now doesn't mean they always be that way. I don't know how old you are but the RS used to be a big team.

Although I made up the bit about Bill giving his bird a Brazilian.

Meanwhile back at the Anfield ranch they seem to be buying like cash is going out of fashion while we have to 'wait and see'.

I totally agree, we are £100's of millions worth of investment away from where we need to be. Our stadium is rotten, commercial side of our club is a joke and our board members don't invest money out of their own pocket.

Arsenal are a club we should be looking to aspire to, new stadium, good sponsorship deals and self sufficient. Although Arsenal have so much positive going on, they still can't compete with money bags like Man City and Chelsea, who have billionaire chairmen who use their clubs as their play things.

Unless we get owners in like the ones at Chelsea or Man City, I can't ever see us challenging for the PL title again.

The days of fairy tales like Derby County wining league titles and Nottm Forest wining European Cups are over, because it's all about money in modern day football. Sad but true.

'Aim for the moon and you might reach the stars'

I fear for your dream of becoming an astronaut with that kind of astronomical knowledge!
You're right though - aim for the title and if you fall short, you might land in 4th.

I'm 34 and I remember the mid 80's when we were rather good. I also remember my Holy Communion when we lost to Man Utd in 85.

Anyway...Martinez: needs to have us playing more attacking stuff and if he wins the League Cup (which Moyes never took seriously given that we reached one semi final out of 11 years) he will be alright in my book. Anything, please....it's getting embarrassing now!! Come on! That's within our range given that fecking Brum and Swansea have won it recently!

I like Martinez but his non-stop, positive chat will drive many fans up the wall before the season is finished.

Goodness knows where his optimism comes from. I'm shaking in my boots.
That said, we have a very experienced squad who fit well together and are difficult to beat. It obviously excites him and I suspect he already knows where to strengthen.

And to do that is so safe and so easy. The "realist" is safe because he can refer back to his gloomy warnings and the facts he quoted and tell those who dared dream that they were stupid and naive. He can even accuse the dreamer of being in league with our satanic chairman. Above someone even says " The only thing worth discussing at the moment is squad questions."

Well that may be so. There are those with much more knowledge about the club, the finances, the validity of media rumours and all the other "serious" matters but at times their analysis can lead us all into some kind of depressing stupour. .

But for fuck's sake - if you don't forget all the hard facts and figures and just have a dream now and then, what is the bloody point.

So if someone like Peter 366 dares have a dream - don't sneer quite so much. It's too easy, reeks of smugness and in the end, is just plain miserable

BK. I hope you're listening.

You miserable bunch - slagging off people who have some optimism. Everyone is entitled to their view (however rose coloured).

I hope you Jonah's are armchair fans - because I don't want to be sat next to you in this new era.

Give me a Peter Warren any day of the week over the constant negativity you lot spout.

Viva Roberto!.
Viva optimism.

I still believe if we could get an unbelievably good striker in, we could win the league. He is out there and will cost just a few million and I just hope we find him.

I can imagine what United fans would think,

Reporter: "So, David, what's your ultimate ambition for the season?"

DM: "Well, seeing how our rivals have strengthened, the best thing to do is aim for top six and see where we go from there."

Cue burning effigy s and a rocket up his arse!

1. He states that we should be aiming for the Champons League. Well would you rather he said that the aim was to get to 40 points and take it from there?If you aim for 70 points and you fall short you will probably be around the 65 point mark. If you aim for 40 and you fall shirt then you are most likely in trouble.

2. He talks about winning trophies. Well what's wrong with that? Would you rather he said that the aim was to have some good Cup runs? He won the FA Cup with Wigan, Laudrup won the League Cup with Swansea - both of these clubs are smaller than Everton. Yes David Moyes did a great job - but when it came to the Cup Competitions he was in my opinion found wanting. We had a great oportunity to beat Liverpool in the Semi Final - but instead of carrying on with how we had been playing, we resorted to the usual Moyes tactic of " parking the bus"

3. As regards his command of English - well I think Roberto Martinez speaks English better than most of us speak Spanish. And I bet he can pronounce the names of his players better than Joe Kinnear. I love those Geordies - whatever we have to complain about - it's never as bad as that lot in the North East. Isn't it 44 years without a trophy! And so they appoint football's equivalent of Mr Bean as Director of Football. Classic!!

4.As regards signing players - yes it seems as if some clubs have already made signings. But most have not, so let's all be a little more patient. Perhaps some of the answers make come from within the club - maybe some of our younger will at last be given a proper chance.

We have been programmed to accept 6-8th mate. Continuously being told we are punching above our weight and we are a plucky little club has took it's toll on the expectations of the fans...

Resulting in anyone showing optimism and positivity being slagged off.

Now he is gone, to be replaced by a guy who most of us think has a decent chance of maintaining our 6/7ish status. He will do very well to deliver on that ambition. Very well indeed.

Talk of Champions League / new stadium / billionaire owners anytime soon is fanciful in extremis. Dream on.

If we bought C Ronaldo or L Messi. I will confidently say we will not win the PL, in fact I'd stake my mortgage, job and life savings on it.

I'm all for being optimistic but football is all about quality of the whole squad. RVP was terrific for Arsenal but his goals couldn't get Arsenal anywhere near the PL title.

There's a big difference between being optimistic and being deluded, I said before I would be over the moon if we could win a couple of cups and get in the CL in the next 5 years. Richard Dodd would say I am being deluded to think this is achievable, but we've got to have dreams and aspirations or what's the point?

Let's say:

1. Better tactics / substitutions / more belief – 8 points.
2. Barkley playing instead of Phil Neville or Heitinga in midfield – 3 points.
3. Top striker – 12 points.

Unlikely... but I disagree with you that it is impossible.

Paul: By the time I got to Formby High, decimalization and inflation had seen the ha`penny replaced by the 5p piece as the coin we shoved about. I wasn`t half bad at the soccer version of the game but the rich kids with 12" wooden rulers always had more power in their shots than my plassie 6-incher!

There is an obvious retort there.
You must have set me up for it,so I will give it a miss if you don't mind.:-)

I'm cautiously optimistic about Martinez, hoping for a more expansive, attacking approach, and I do feel that is what we'll get. Let's hope our defensive play doesn't suffer. I'm just a bit uneasy about him talking so much. Talk less, do more.

And please don't give me any bollocks about him having agreed to go to Brazil before he took over. Moyes would have been crucified by some lads on here.

You're just trying to find a stick to beat Roberto with.

Perhaps when he shamelessly uses his punditry to advertise for the Spurs job as Saint Davey did people will be on his case.

(assuming they're not already - perish the thought)

Then again mustn't grumble as he was a tactical genius who worked miracles keeping us 5th/6th – impossible for any other manager in the world

Barry Rathbone, 517, I'm as pissed off as the next real Evertonian at our failure against the Usual Suspects so I can't, and won't, attempt to defend Moyes on here over that. You can't defend the indefensible.

Ross Edwards, 514, I've evidently picked up the stick you've been twatting Moyes all over the place with since the school holidays began.

Paul Andrews, 508: Paul, I didn't think Martinez had gone to Brazil myself, thinking he'd be in a studio in GB, until I read this on the Sky webpage: "Martinez, who will not meet his entire first-team squad until they join up for pre-season training next month, is hoping to get some scouting done at the Confederations Cup. The Toffees boss is working as a television pundit in Brazil and he hopes that will give him a chance to take a closer look at potential targets."

On Copacabana beach, if he's got any sense...

Anyone on here thinking I've got a downer on Martinez is way off beam, I'm really hoping he can live up to the expectations that some on here have, but a lifetime of supporting Everton has made me a realist and I would be happier if he were to keep his head down and get on with the job instead of trying to say what we WANT to hear as much as what we need to hear.

I believe he is in the states doing the commentators job.
He definitely would have had this booked before he became our manager.

Martinez is a salesman more than a manager. He's just taken Wigan down after a number of seasons jay-walking around it. He's now talking of being addicted to silverware. I ask you.

One of the con-man's foremost weapons is the desperate gullibility of those who want/need to be taken in. I think we should be wary of the expansive words from one with Martinez's record. REMEMBER: No relegation and no FA Cup is infinitely better than relegation + FA Cup.

I reiterate: I hope he (and therefore we) does/do really well, but the portents are very far from good .

The first 5/6 games will tell us what' we can expect. After Smith and Moyes, I'm really hoping Martinez will bring a positive attacking football, but with our defenders will be able to not give away cheap goals.

I wouldn't expect much transfer activity, one player, maybe a couple loans / frees.

The key is not losing players, I would hope we keep Fellaini for one more season, just to see what he can do with Martinez.

I think it could be a big season for Mirallas.

Last season, even under Moyes, we played some very good stuff going forward, we have good attacking players, I wait with baited breath as to what Martinez can get out of them. Defensively I also think we should keep hold of Heitinga.

Bottom line is keep our squad, it's a good squad.

I'd be much happier if he entered more humbly and promised to build on what we have. I suppose I don't particularly like talkers who don't deliver, and Martinez is in that category for me.

If we finish better than sixth next season, I'll be delighted and only to happy to cast aside my worries about him. I hope he keeps Fellaini and Baines ... and adds one or two top players (not cronies from Wigan). Most immediately, in my view,we need a back-up goalie, someone to replace Osman (urgently!) and someone to play alongside Jela.

I just hope he doesn't take us into a relegation fight; it's what he does.

He can either say nothing, play down his ambition for the club, or say he wants to win something – all of which he'd be criticised / applauded for depending, I believe, on where you sit on his appointment. He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Personally I'm glad he's said it, it beats the 'knife to a gunfight' alternative.

Reading the article the Fer quotes quite interesting too....

“I was happy to go to Everton,” said Fer. “The story of my knee is complete nonsense, I’ve played through everything after the winter.

“Of course the failed transfer did something to me, I just do not trust anyone anymore. Everton coach David Moyes has tried to pick me up. He is now at Manchester United."