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Martinez in love with Everton, says Bill
New Manager starts work on Monday
A gushing Bill Kenwright says that his new manager, Roberto Martinez, is “in love with Everton” and can't wait to get stated in his new job on Monday after he returns from his prior commitments as a pundit with ESPN for the Confederations Cup.“On the train coming up somebody said to me ‘we want a different kind of football' and I said ‘hold on, that West Ham game will do me.' We want that kind of football with a few more victories.
“But you can't lay that on Roberto straight away. You've got to be patient. He's not patient! He wants to be in there, wants to be with the players, wants to be at it.
“He's excited about Austria, he's so excited about America — I've told him to bring us home a trophy — he's excited about the fixtures. He's in love. He's in love with Everton.”
“I went to see Evita this afternoon, and when that audience stood at the end and went wild at my production it was breathtaking. I thought ‘there's something I'm not ashamed to say that means something to me — I've brought that together and that works.'
“It's the same with Roberto, I've brought him in, I've brought me with him and I want him to work with that audience which is Evertonians.
“And that in itself is a thrill, that in itself is an adventure and that in itself is exciting — and also worrying because it's not an easy job taking over from David Moyes. But it seems to me that there is a real feeling for Roberto already.”
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2 Posted 29/06/2013 at 17:59:23
3 Posted 29/06/2013 at 18:10:06
4 Posted 29/06/2013 at 18:10:40
5 Posted 29/06/2013 at 18:13:09
6 Posted 29/06/2013 at 18:19:54
7 Posted 29/06/2013 at 18:32:40
8 Posted 29/06/2013 at 18:39:34
9 Posted 29/06/2013 at 18:46:56
10 Posted 29/06/2013 at 18:46:20
Get your chequebook out Gordon Clegg and bring us in at least four new faces and the only player I want to go is Heitinga.
11 Posted 29/06/2013 at 18:48:49
Enjoy the honeymoon, i'm looking forward to your stewardship.
Proves a point though, once you're bitten by the Everton Thing life will never be the same again.
I think we'll do well with Roberto in charge, let's give the guy a chance and get behind him fully despite what happened at Wigan.
12 Posted 29/06/2013 at 18:41:58
If BK wants a good feel factor amongst the Everton audience, he should start showing a bit of activity in the transfer market. Players like Bony and Fer are going to be snapped up if he doesn't stop dithering like his old mate Davey
13 Posted 29/06/2013 at 18:48:32
14 Posted 29/06/2013 at 18:47:50
15 Posted 29/06/2013 at 18:40:37
He seems to think Everton could not do with out him, that everyone loves him
and hangs on his every word what a bellend...
16 Posted 29/06/2013 at 18:48:45
17 Posted 29/06/2013 at 18:42:09
Rubs eyes to go in for a 4th read.
Yep, it still says the same.
Medic.
Coin in hand ready to toss: who is more numpty delusional, teary Billy or Barry?
Teary Billy has zilch sense of discretion and appropriate pitch. Zilch.
Bless, he does try his level best to say things he thinks that we want to hear in a style that we will clap hands to. But he nearly always gets it wrong and with each new utterance the cringe-ometer is flashing red.
I just wish that he would shut up and retreat to the shadowy silence he slunk in for a long stretch last season when things
did not go as well on the pitch as had been the case last
Autumn. (Although, come to think of it, perhaps he was
sulking as Ginger whispered that he was heading out the
door, maybe last Feb?)
You are a fearful embarrassment Teary Billy. You remind me of an
author who wants to write in a popular vein but cannot pull it off.
You want to be what, a populist, popular, people-lover?
You are none of these things. You remind me of a sheepskin
big cigar Chairman fella.
And coming down to earth with a cosmic bump, we will never
make the progress all of us on here crave with Luvvy-Chops
as chair with his tight-fisted crony board.
(Eh, Teary, eh, give good old Greeny a bell, and ask him for a
bit of the 285 million sponds he got from his tax dodge, say,
let's not be greedy, 10 per cent, say 28.5 million sponds. It
would be like me giving Teary 50 cents. No skin off Greeny's
nose and no hole in his pocket.)
18 Posted 29/06/2013 at 18:53:01
19 Posted 29/06/2013 at 18:56:33
20 Posted 29/06/2013 at 18:59:26
21 Posted 29/06/2013 at 19:10:55
22 Posted 29/06/2013 at 19:19:10
Not as much as BK mind you...
23 Posted 29/06/2013 at 19:22:08
24 Posted 29/06/2013 at 19:27:04
25 Posted 29/06/2013 at 19:32:12
26 Posted 29/06/2013 at 19:39:44
Put his sixty grand a week to Baines or (in my dreams) Rooneys salary.
27 Posted 29/06/2013 at 19:42:49
28 Posted 29/06/2013 at 19:57:55
Fuck me, are you serious?
29 Posted 29/06/2013 at 19:57:59
30 Posted 29/06/2013 at 20:01:03
Anyway, he constantly spouts clearly delusional shite about how he can feel the positive 'love'
vibes given off by all the users of his product tripping their balls off, and how their love for him allows him to ascend to a higher state of consciousness. All the while the crazy old coot is totally oblivious to the pain and suffering he causes to them and their families.
I always thought he was a pretty ludicrous, far fetched character and had forgotten all about him....until now. Fuck knows what reminded me of him.
31 Posted 29/06/2013 at 20:01:57
33 Posted 29/06/2013 at 19:56:36
I've always thought Bill was more fool than knave, although like most on here I cringe when he's interviewed. The emotion just seems to take over and he invariably seems to say the wrong thing in the wrong way.
But that's not going to change because as David says (shit I sound like Bill) I mean David at (791) that's the lovee game he's in.
34 Posted 29/06/2013 at 20:06:37
35 Posted 29/06/2013 at 20:16:53
You keep sounding a bit childish by mentioning Moyes' hair colour all the time
36 Posted 29/06/2013 at 20:07:04
37 Posted 29/06/2013 at 20:13:59
I have observed Bill at close quarters and he is more knave than fool. Comparing a meeting with the Blue Union two years ago to being raped and then blaming them for his decision to end AGM's 5 years ago. He only agreed to restore AGM after the EFCSA had backed him into a corner.
38 Posted 29/06/2013 at 20:19:27
39 Posted 29/06/2013 at 20:22:52
I'm not saying that Bill is the ideal chairman, but if he really has mismanaged our club, why didn't a whistleblower come forward during all these years? Rangers were busted in the end. Where is our Edward Snowden?
41 Posted 29/06/2013 at 20:25:09
(1) I wish BK would stop mentioning DM. He won nothing. He's gone. Forget.
(2) I wish TW would ban any links with The Echo. I hate reading anything written by that shower of shite. (Remember that Echo prick who wrote that biased, puerile, bitter Merseyside derby report? Is he still employed? Whatever happened to him?)
42 Posted 29/06/2013 at 20:23:27
Oh God sorry ,apologies. I had'nt realised you'd observed Bill at close quarters before I made my comments. You must be right then.
43 Posted 29/06/2013 at 20:35:15
He's plotted such a web of pure Walter Mittyish lifestyle that he can't help but contradict himself these days, if he was a dog someone would have shot it or injected it and euthanised it years ago.
44 Posted 29/06/2013 at 20:40:25
45 Posted 29/06/2013 at 20:41:53
However we both share the view he's not the man to take Everton forward.
46 Posted 29/06/2013 at 20:51:22
Good God there's two of them.
47 Posted 29/06/2013 at 21:00:51
Be good to get Martinez back soon though so that he calms down and realises he has to spend some money. Free love is not enough.
48 Posted 29/06/2013 at 21:08:15
This fella needs to clean up his act and sort himself out.
All three more often than not spout the same old same old.
And bruiser Brierley (bruiser down to his out-of-order
tone/insults on another thread), whichever one of his
three hats he has on,needs to fine-tune his arguments
and narrative strategies.
49 Posted 29/06/2013 at 21:10:50
50 Posted 29/06/2013 at 21:01:23
No relation or connection with Dan that I know of (probably same as you and Greg).
I bow to your observation of Bill at close quarters (bit spooky) and wish you well with your stalking.
51 Posted 29/06/2013 at 18:12:42
52 Posted 29/06/2013 at 21:16:55
All the very best to you and your brothers Birkenhead and New Brighton.
54 Posted 29/06/2013 at 21:33:19
We'll have to agree to disagree, BK in my eyes is a lying piece of dirt with no place or right to be at the club, never has and never will, he even got onboard blagging a friend he quickly fucked over when the chips were down, that's him to a T.
55 Posted 29/06/2013 at 21:34:00
Will he, like Moyes, tolerate the lack of money and ambition, for job security (as long as he keeps his mouth shut) by keeping us in the premiership.
Forget champions league, forget Europa league. Our ambition will be to to finish higher than third.
I think Roberto is a good man but we'll see how much in love he is come Feb,
56 Posted 29/06/2013 at 22:15:58
Great posts tonight
57 Posted 29/06/2013 at 22:21:45
58 Posted 29/06/2013 at 22:14:22
He's undoubtedly a complete emotional clown when interviewed. Like you I've mixed with a lot of theatricals and many of them express themselves in ways that are out of touch with the rest of us.
I think his heart is in the right place but sadly everything else is not.
59 Posted 29/06/2013 at 22:19:58
61 Posted 29/06/2013 at 22:26:37
Let the other people worry about the ins and outs and deals or no deals and get on with building a team. Hopefully he will pay more attention to the youth development and build something special for us all to enjoy in the coming years. Don't fall into the trap that DM fell into and start worrying about the cash-flow rather than how the team play.
63 Posted 29/06/2013 at 22:30:53
Stop digging holes for yourself... you're the only chairman who gives these embarrassing interviews. No-one is arsed anymore about what you've got to say unless it's "I've found us a buyer an I'll be able to enjoy the match as a fan".
Until then, please just do one and take you happy clappers with you.
64 Posted 29/06/2013 at 22:18:31
The guy is unbelievable. Imagine the speech if we actually won something.
65 Posted 29/06/2013 at 23:26:09
66 Posted 30/06/2013 at 00:30:11
Kenwright is a purple-prosed, sugary, tear-dabbing, lump-in-throat inducing (vomit) ultra luvvy.
Moyes, is a tight-lipped, vowel-for-sale, gurning,mean (in every sense of the word), parsimonious, charisma-free, self-regarding, dull, trophyless no-mark.
Martinez... seems normal!
67 Posted 30/06/2013 at 01:20:44
68 Posted 30/06/2013 at 01:33:20
Having said that, some of the overreaction on here is equally as embarrassing, if not more so.
69 Posted 30/06/2013 at 02:28:31
70 Posted 30/06/2013 at 03:20:04
And I've noticed a second Fearon has popped up.
And there's the 2 Tony Williams'
I just hope Richard Dodds doesn't clone himself also!
71 Posted 30/06/2013 at 04:13:43
That honeymoon was not that long was it?
72 Posted 30/06/2013 at 04:33:42
73 Posted 30/06/2013 at 06:51:35
Just on this particular episode; there's nothing like putting a wee bit of pressure on your manager "just bring us a trophy back, Robbie lad." "He's in love with the club!" and all the rest of the waffle he's spouted, is his way of ingratiating himself back with the fans after his "best friend" left.
It's when the episode is put amid his lies and actions over the years, that I despise him for. I look back at the Kings Dock tragedy. Some might say it's gone, get over it. Well, I don't think I'll ever forget that wonderful chance we had for a stadium and who it was who mainly trashed the deal.
Then there was the Fortress Sports Fund "the money's in the bank" lie. That was followed by the even bigger nightmare of Destination Kirkby. I well remember him saying Goodison wouldn't get a safety certificate. The deal is a chance of a lifetime, there's no plan B, no site in Liverpool and then his decision to end AGMs because he felt a bit uncomfortable.
I'll tell you what: if this man had been in charge with the lot over the park, they'd have run him out of town,
This episode is just a reflection of the man's belief that he is our saviour, whereas, in my view, the man might be an Evertoniaqn but it doesn't stop him being so in love with his role as Chairman that he'll do anything to keep it.
I don't think it is simply a matter of "Blind Hatred" as one contributor has put it. I think it is more to do with the catalogue of untruths that the man has uttered.
74 Posted 30/06/2013 at 07:23:49
Kenwright should keep his soundbites to himself until there is something substantial to say such as a new signing. Even then, he should be scripted by someone with their feet firmly on the ground. I'm embarrassed by the likes of him and Mike Parry when they talk about our club.
75 Posted 30/06/2013 at 07:42:54
That's the point. I've got no problem with people being overly sentimental and gushy, I can be guilty of it myself, BUT if you are going to succumb to it, you have to back it up with concrete actions. If you don't, it is seen for what it really is – cheap talk to gloss over your own shortcomings. Enter, Bill Kenwright.
76 Posted 30/06/2013 at 07:40:20
But the worst of all was the first press conference where he claimed Martinez "promised" to get us into the Champions League. What an idiot to heap that expectation on a new arrival, when anyone who knows anything about football, knows that if he has us in a similar position to Moyes, he is doing a fantastic job.
I try to be optimistic about Martinez and the new season but, every time Bill opens his mouth, a little bit of that optimism dies.
77 Posted 30/06/2013 at 07:51:55
79 Posted 30/06/2013 at 08:06:14
"I know you've all been waiting for me all day. I want to state how lucky Everton is, how lucky I am, to have hired the best manager in the world in Roberto Martinez. We had the best manager in the world in David Moyes, and now we have the best manager in the world again. And how very appropriate that I have just finished attending my premiere production of Evita, Wimbledon's showcase event of the year."
Breaking into song to hide the tears welling in his eyes after mentioning his former and manager to be in the same sentence:
"Don't cry for me, R Martinez
The truth is I never left you
All through my wild days
My mad existence
I kept my promise
Don't keep your distance
And as for fortune, and as for fame
I never invited them in
Though it seemed to the world they were all I desired
They are illusions
They are not the solutions they promised to be
The answer was here all the time
I LOVE YOU and hope you love me
Don't cry for me R Martinez
Have I said too much?
There's nothing more I can think of to say to you.
But all you have to do is look at me to know
That every word is true."
An emotional Kenwright ended his performance with renditions of the oddly apropos
"And the Money Kept Rolling In (And Out)" and
"Oh What a Circus"
Waving to a now rather bemused group of reporters and passers-by, and no longer able to hold back the tears,
"On This Night of a Thousand Stars, Good Night and Thank You,"
Kenwright shouted, his voice breaking.
Slipping into the recently acquired rent-to-own Everton corporate Honda Civic, sporting the much derided new club crest, Bill Kenwright vanished into evening traffic.
Roberto Martinez, who has not actually started work at Everton as yet, could not be reached for comment.
80 Posted 30/06/2013 at 08:05:46
A few years back, he was performing in a three-hander, a murder mystery with just him and two actresses on the stage – a pretty crap idea as it was obvious he did it. Any how, his two young daughters came to watch their dad and, after the play one night, met this certain actress.
She made a very over-the-top presentation to the girls of a Twix chocolate bar and quite vocal "And what do you say, girls?" Being well brought up, the two girls obviously thanked her but, to the shock of both them and their dad, were stopped in their tracks when they went to eat the chocolate fingers with a sharp cry from the actress of "Oh no, girls — for my dog, one for each of you to give to my dog". Each of the girls then had to feed her little rat excuse of a dog the chocolate bar.
The guy was obviously as disgusted as his daughters were and vowed never to work with her again or humiliate his daughters to her or her dogs benefit. I will leave you to guess the mystery actress who owns/owned a little dog who loved Twix bars.
81 Posted 30/06/2013 at 08:51:59
No wonder Roberto couldn't be reached. He's probably done a runner!
82 Posted 30/06/2013 at 09:05:19
That post just about nails it. He should have been run out of town after the King's Dock fiasco. What an opportunity that was.
All the rest (DK, NTL, FSF, etc ad nauseam) was merely more in that same vein.
He is a charlatan, a fraud and a bullshit merchant. But he is good enough, it seems, for a surprisingly large proportion of the fanbase.
83 Posted 30/06/2013 at 09:12:37
It was indeed. The King's Dock was a once-in-a-lifetime chance. I agree totally with your post.
84 Posted 30/06/2013 at 09:22:45
To me it is further evidence of his divorce from reality. I haven't spoken to ANYONE who is impressed by this appointment.
Plenty are prepared to give Martinez a chance (it's in Evertonians' nature after all); others just wanted Moyes out. But I know of nobody who is genuinely excited by his arrival.
85 Posted 30/06/2013 at 09:30:28
She would have to have a screw loose.
Look at her choice of partner, this one and the last one.
86 Posted 30/06/2013 at 09:52:51
Taking your lead, I have just Googled a certain actress. Story came up about a horse sanctuary she formed. they then formed a registered charity. They now have 31 horses.
Anyway ,people came forward and donated the stables free of charge, the grazing land free of charge. The stables are run by volunteers giving their time free of charge.
Operating costs are currently £10,000 per month. :-)
87 Posted 30/06/2013 at 10:08:38
88 Posted 30/06/2013 at 09:42:04
Will Leaf: Enjoyed your lyrics. Well observed.
89 Posted 30/06/2013 at 11:08:13
90 Posted 30/06/2013 at 11:07:23
91 Posted 30/06/2013 at 12:09:29
These second rate showbiz types are all the same. Similar orders are regularly barked out at gangbangs at Bob Carolgee's gaff.
92 Posted 30/06/2013 at 13:27:34
I have often said that, when people are actually standing in front of somebody that they have been slagging off in the past, would they do it to their faces? I dont think so.
Get behind the club, get behind the manager, and get behind BK and stop slagging off Everton Football Club because that is what we are doing if we slag off Bill. This site is worldwide, what would people think of us caring Everton fans that slag off our Chairman is this way?
93 Posted 30/06/2013 at 13:43:11
He brings it on himself. He has told lie after lie to the fans. The falseness of his statements are obvious, the smarmy insincerity of the act he portrays is also blatantly obvious.
He has not invested 1p into the business, a business he is looking to personally profit from by over £20 million if he gets his asking price.
A complete phoney.
94 Posted 30/06/2013 at 13:49:03
Sorry Mark but that, imo, is the most impressively naive pile of cack I have read on here — and, god knows, some of my posts have been pretty bad.
96 Posted 30/06/2013 at 14:21:16
That said... he is clearly an emotional bloke, and I don't think his quotes deserve some of the replies in this thread.
BTW, I thought dogs couldn't eat chocolate?
97 Posted 30/06/2013 at 14:25:16
Did he just get them gifted to him?
98 Posted 30/06/2013 at 14:33:25
It's purchase price.
99 Posted 30/06/2013 at 14:36:02
100 Posted 30/06/2013 at 14:35:29
Err....no it's not.
So now Bill Kenwright IS Everton Football Club just like Chaz Michael Michaels IS figure skating?
101 Posted 30/06/2013 at 14:46:08
102 Posted 30/06/2013 at 14:20:15
Well Mark, I guess that is a problem a number of Evertonians have. They cannot, will not believe what this Chairman has done/said while being at the helm of one of the greatest football clubs in England.
If you don't wish to believe that EFC lost the best chance of a world class stadium at the Kings Dock primarily because of him "The money is ring fenced", then that is your right and no one can deny you that right.
If you don't believe that his friend, Mr Samuelson, "The money's in the Bank" came on the scene and disappeared amazingly quickly, was perhaps being a little economical with the truth, then so be it.
If you don't believe the many well informed articles, well informed at least to my admittedly uneducated mind, that have appeared on here, then so be it.
In your eyes, the man is trying his best for EFC. Admittedly he's been searching high and low, 24/7, for the right buyer to materialize (and for God's sake don't come out with "Be careful what you wish for", as though it was a mystical truth uttered by the Delphic Oracle.
You carry on believing the man and getting behind him. I hope you are right to do so. Personally, I don't trust him to do the right thing for EFC...
I also wanted to see Roberto Martinez come to our club. I believe he will make a top class manager (but I could well be wrong!)
What I do take issue with, is your assertion that somehow, if there is criticism, and in my humble opinion thoroughly justified Evertonians, good Evertonians are somehow not getting behind the club is plainly wrong. There are many Evertonians who are deeply critical of Mr Kenwright but have backed the Club, through thick and thin, all of their lives!
103 Posted 30/06/2013 at 14:58:48
Just shut up Bill, please.
104 Posted 30/06/2013 at 14:26:56
You possibly provide a clue as to how/why spitting has become so prevalent in to today's adult 'entertainment'.
I certainly don't remember 1970s 'wood' legends, 'Big' John Holmes or Kinglinton Dong, gobbing on rusty sheriff's badges the way the chaps do now.
I'm sure back then they felt (as I do) that not only is it not pleasant on the eye, but there are surely possible health risks. *
(* According to Lancet, over the last 10 years, there's been a 67% rise in ringpiece TB and a 72% rise in fannial meningitis.)
105 Posted 30/06/2013 at 15:04:15
I remember a time when the chairman spoke for and on behalf of the board, but not so with Mr Kenwright, it's him and him alone, unless of course things go wrong then it's someone else's fault.
“Its the same with Roberto, Ive brought him in, Ive brought me with him and I want him to work with that audience which is Evertonians."
106 Posted 30/06/2013 at 15:09:20
It's time for change. I think Martinez should be given a chance... but what chance has he got with a chairman like Kenwright?
Kenwright loved Moyes, his "best friend" is what he called him. Yet after 11 years mostly top 8 plus back-to-back 5th and 6th finishes wouldn't see Bill an the Board back him – neither did finishing 4th, so I can't really see him backing Bobby who he's just met.
Unfortunately, we're stuck with Bill until things go wrong on the pitch that IMO will be when fans stop defending him – by which time, the good work over the last 11 years will have gone to waste. Too many times we've been let down by the current establishment... I honestly don't know how you can defend them.
109 Posted 30/06/2013 at 15:48:07
That is his investment!
110 Posted 30/06/2013 at 15:40:13
"We've found a field somewhere but won't be building on it."
"We've made inquiries for two players but won't be signing them coz there's no money."
And "The Kitbag deal is really good for us, it's just that they've only got two outlets."
Still, Evita went well.
111 Posted 30/06/2013 at 16:13:38
Check your figures, Phil.
112 Posted 30/06/2013 at 16:41:28
I cant wait to see the Blues playing to win and doing it in a way we have waited for a since the 1980s and a bit of good stuff under Joe Royle. Let Bill have his moment for once.
113 Posted 30/06/2013 at 16:40:14
If the club goes to the wall and BK loses his "investment" —which sounds likely to have been paid by A N Other (friend of the club) — then it's completely down to the shoddy way he has mismanaged the business and I won't shed a single tear or feel any pity of that mismanagement or loss as it's been a long time coming.
Dave Lynch (#942) — she can't be told to "calm down dear" anymore.
114 Posted 30/06/2013 at 17:46:49
115 Posted 30/06/2013 at 17:58:24
Why is Kenny Rogers at Glastonbury?
116 Posted 30/06/2013 at 18:09:06
When will be rid of this fool?
117 Posted 30/06/2013 at 18:27:17
118 Posted 30/06/2013 at 18:28:37
119 Posted 30/06/2013 at 18:42:57
If I could get 600% return on my purchase price, I would show as many signs of good faith to any number of establishments.
120 Posted 30/06/2013 at 18:46:06
121 Posted 30/06/2013 at 18:52:09
122 Posted 30/06/2013 at 19:08:21
Only opinions mate, I think he bought his share of the club at a rock bottom price with a view to profit down the line.
He has turned a business that was £20 mil in the black into a business £45 mil in the red.
123 Posted 30/06/2013 at 19:06:08
Ok, was invited to a neighbour's house for 'drinks'.
This happens a lot where I live (Beaulieu, New Forest) - it's very posh, you phone the police round here and they say "Who recommended us?" (they're the kind of people who get out of the bath for a slash).
Seriously, everyone is posh, rich and bored out of their fucking skulls - consequently they're all alkofrolics who spend half the day in the alehouse and the other half bevvying at home.
Anyway I got talking to some feller who is a writer.
He has written for TV, theatre, film and has two novels 'out there'.
(no names but loads of stuff you'd know).
He told a couple of amusing showbiz stories so I asked him if he had ever had any dealings with..erm.. any 'well-known theatrical impresarios'.
He replied "Ooooh yes" (in the same way as a feller with burst piles might respond to the question 'Is there much pain?').
He said 20 years ago he was putting on a play (backed by this one particular impresario) at a theatre in London and when he arrived at the theatre door for the first rehearsal, he was met by a fuming Su Pollard (I had to be reminded - crackpot sort, wore Timmy Mallet-style specs and played a cleaner in Hi Dee fucking Hi).
Apparently as she was leaving the theatre, she was screaming "DUNT BOTHER, HE WUNT FUCKIN' PAY YER, HE WUNT FUCKIN' PAY YER!!"
This feller said "I just thought she was mental so I didn't even know who she was really on about"
There was then a bit of a (nicely-timed) pause as if he'd finished the story so I said "Right so...did YOU get paid ok?"
"No I did not" he said (with a theatrical resigned look) adding "Should have listened to Su fucking Pollard shouldn't I"
Tut! I thought, just imagine someone that untrustworthy in charge of a busin...
Fuck.
124 Posted 30/06/2013 at 20:25:02
125 Posted 30/06/2013 at 20:34:35
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Keep tally of the cast of characters involved in the story. If, for example, suddenly the third time the story is told, the cops show up, you have to start wondering if he or she is telling the full truth.
Recall the frequency of the lies. Pathological liars will lie consistently, which is one thing you can count on –– they will lie all the time. Conduct a non-scientific experiment and inquire about certain aspects of the persons life everyday. Choose something random like what the person ate for dinner or watched on TV the evening before. Ask the person the same question throughout the day to see if it changes –– play into the lie by either getting excited or showing intrigue when the person embellishes the story. Don't give away that you've heard a different answer before.
Consider whether the person is lying to gain attention. Part of the reason the pathological liar feels compelled to lie is because he or she may feel as though being in the spotlight has eluded them. This person feels that he or she should be the center of everyones universe and will do what he or she can to make it happen. Upon tasting the spotlight, it becomes self-reinforcing and the lies grow bigger each time just to keep on being the center of attention. Here are some possibilities:
Sympathy attention. The pathological liar feels that his or her problems are paramount to what everyone else is experiencing. From a paper cut to being admonished by a boss or teacher, the pathological liar runs around telling his or her story to anyone and everyone, exaggerating the details to ridiculous proportions in order to gain sympathy from anyone within earshot.
Wants to feel important. The pathological liar is the king or queen of the “one upper.” Whatever accomplishment youve achieved, they done it better. This person always has to feel superior to you at all times, no matter if its in the professional or personal arena.
Feels bored. Unfortunately, because this persons life is not rooted in reality, he or she may become easily bored if drama is not swirling around his or her head. As a result, lies may be fabricated in order to amuse or entertain this person, which unfortunately means that other people become involved and possibly hurt as a result.
Insecurity. Low self esteem is one of the biggest reasons why people become pathological liars. Whether they consciously recognize it or not, a pathological liar feels that he or she is not important enough as they are so they must make up accomplishments or events to position themselves as worthy.
126 Posted 30/06/2013 at 20:43:34
127 Posted 30/06/2013 at 21:05:10
128 Posted 30/06/2013 at 21:46:40
Bill said they have a site, and have signed a NDA with LCC!!
In the next breath, our CEO says don't expect anything to happen in the next 5 years????
After it was reported they were both clapped off the stage - I had to stop myself legging it down there to sell some shares in my Gold mine.
Put a picture of gullible in the dictionary - and they will put a picture of us soft feckers who buy season tickets and keep these people in position (me included)
129 Posted 30/06/2013 at 22:32:06
Please tell me he was pissed when he said all that.
130 Posted 30/06/2013 at 22:35:49
Nice anecdote and it really doesn't surprise me at all (the Sue Pollard turn out).
BTW was in Beaulieu myself last week, very posh! (The New Forest in general is lovely; one thing though — the locals drive like fuckin' lunatics!)
131 Posted 30/06/2013 at 23:07:00
I personally will judge a certain theatre impresario on how much is invested in the team, before August 31st of this year.
132 Posted 30/06/2013 at 22:53:23
133 Posted 30/06/2013 at 23:47:03
134 Posted 30/06/2013 at 23:48:43
You need to get out of your room a bit more, go have a pint somewhere, anywhere
135 Posted 30/06/2013 at 23:54:35
I don't believe a word anyone says anymore, that's what a combination of this site & Bill can do to a man.
Time for a self imposed exile while my faith in humanity is restored (that fuckin' Hansen is at it now, telling his porkies!!!)
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137 Posted 01/07/2013 at 00:04:47
138 Posted 01/07/2013 at 00:07:30
139 Posted 01/07/2013 at 00:08:38
140 Posted 01/07/2013 at 00:51:15
141 Posted 01/07/2013 at 08:51:27
142 Posted 01/07/2013 at 10:40:59
143 Posted 01/07/2013 at 13:57:09
Just out of interest, had we (Everton) decided we wanted compo for our superb and vital (ie: signed to contracts) coaching staff, wonder if we could have got compo out of Utd.
Also does anyone know if we just paid Werthers Whelean for Martinez or will we get stung by Wigan for their coaching staff if/when Martinez brings them?
(nb: this is another post in my 'killing time when there's no game on' series).
144 Posted 01/07/2013 at 18:48:49
Yes, BK can come off a little over zealous at times (Twatish if you will) but he means well and we all should know better than to shine more light on the star struck lovey he is! And what's with all this dragging Martinez down before he's even started? It's not the Everton way! No! I think I was right the first time!
145 Posted 01/07/2013 at 19:21:26
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146 Posted 01/07/2013 at 19:31:59
Sharpish, like.
147 Posted 01/07/2013 at 20:56:27
For the record, I'm pleased that we got Martinez as manager and I'm looking forward to seeing some exciting signings and exciting football. What you really appear to be saying is, that any criticism of either Elstone or Kenwright labels them as" Kopites" and bitter ones at that, Between them, they have come out with statements and have acted in a manner which I'd have thought merited criticism.
As I said in an earlier post, if these two had been in place in their respective positions on the dark side of the park, then it is my belief they'd have been chased out of town. That, I think you will find, is an opinion shared by many on ToffeeWeb.
How on earth do you know that Martinez is in "proper mad love" with Everton Ah, I forgot, Mr Kenwright told youy so.
150 Posted 01/07/2013 at 21:27:52
152 Posted 01/07/2013 at 21:51:34
Dissen is Jags partner.
153 Posted 01/07/2013 at 21:53:26
154 Posted 01/07/2013 at 22:03:54
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155 Posted 01/07/2013 at 21:58:27
The twatish remark was nothing to do with "zealous".
It was you impugning the credentials of others using this site to comment on our Club's custodians. Such displays of crass ignorance and abuse will have you marginalized in a hurry!
156 Posted 02/07/2013 at 06:31:27
158 Posted 02/07/2013 at 09:14:13
Although the causes of BPD are unclear, it appears to be the result of a combination of genetic and environmental factors. Traumatic events that occur during childhood parental neglect, abandonment, physical, sexual or emotional abuse (holes in shoes left to fend for himself in the boys pen by a kopite father ) are a major risk factor for developing BPD.
Lets look at some of the symptoms.
Chronic feelings of emptiness and boredom. Unpredictable mood swings (emotional ups and downs) Fear of being abandoned leading to frenetic behavior to prevent being left alone (hysterical texting, franticly calling a person and threatening them...) Uncontrolled emotions or impulses . Acts of self-injury, such as wrist cutting, cigarette burning, hair pulling, overdosing . Brief episodes of strange thoughts and hallucinations. Impulsive and reckless actions (related to money, substance abuse, sexual relationships, gambling spree, binge eating, reckless driving or shoplifting)
159 Posted 02/07/2013 at 09:33:37
44" chest please.
160 Posted 02/07/2013 at 09:37:19
http://www.leathercult.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=168&products_id=1232&gclid=COuN0ri0kLgCFavHtAodyh0AXw
161 Posted 02/07/2013 at 09:54:19
162 Posted 02/07/2013 at 09:58:28
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/2775235/Michael-Jacksons-pants-for-sale-on-eBay-for-1m.html
163 Posted 02/07/2013 at 10:12:09
Have to get the legs lengthened but it could be worth the effort.
164 Posted 02/07/2013 at 10:22:08
165 Posted 02/07/2013 at 10:35:59
Don't know if you would bother there,Bill might?
166 Posted 02/07/2013 at 10:42:26
167 Posted 02/07/2013 at 10:55:41
168 Posted 02/07/2013 at 10:56:25
http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/Judge%20Dredd%20Stallone%20cod%20piece.jpg
169 Posted 02/07/2013 at 11:20:19
Never !
170 Posted 02/07/2013 at 11:22:43
Time to go.Got to shoot into town to a tailor to get the front of me suit altered for the weekend.
Any recommendations?
171 Posted 02/07/2013 at 17:02:34
Thanks for acting as interpreter :)
172 Posted 02/07/2013 at 17:18:12
173 Posted 02/07/2013 at 18:00:21
174 Posted 02/07/2013 at 18:28:50
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1 Posted 29/06/2013 at 16:34:22
"He's excited about the pre-season tours to Austria and America - I've told him to bring us home a trophy. He's in love. He's in love with Everton."
How has this imbecile ended up owning this club? He's a fecking loon!!
The man hasn't even sat in his office yet.