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City could move for Rodwell
Roberto Mancini is apparently frustrated with the lack of transfer activity at the Etihad this summer and could make an offer for the England international before this month's deadline.
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783 Posted 11/08/2012 at 21:18:23
785 Posted 11/08/2012 at 21:40:43
786 Posted 11/08/2012 at 21:38:08
What about SWP on loan still got to be better than what we have got on the right hand side....
788 Posted 11/08/2012 at 21:52:29
Might put us in luck for a change, Adam Johnson plus 5-10 million would be a very decent deal, and we are not playing Rodwell in defence so they need him more then we do.
I hope.
790 Posted 11/08/2012 at 21:54:43
I really don't think Moyesy would want to sell Rodwell but me personally I would if they threw Johnson into the deal and he settled for taking reasonable wages?!
795 Posted 11/08/2012 at 22:07:41
796 Posted 11/08/2012 at 21:53:05
The "promising big lad" stage has come and gone and he's come to a dead stop arguably gone backwards.
Injury worries, timid and the fact everyone knows we're brassic means we'd be lucky to see 5 mill - then again it is City - hope springs eternal.
798 Posted 11/08/2012 at 22:12:40
The Blues did quite well when he was missing last season and so I don't think he would be missed, having not quite scaled the heights at Goodison as was expected.
799 Posted 11/08/2012 at 22:16:55
So why should Mancini want to buy Rodwell? His last season was ok, nothing more.
Would anyone of you want to buy Rodwell, when you can pick from the top shelf?
Seriously?
800 Posted 11/08/2012 at 22:09:49
I know SWF is at Queens Park was just thinking doubt he will be in Hughes,s plans just think he could do a job...
801 Posted 11/08/2012 at 22:18:19
804 Posted 11/08/2012 at 22:43:27
807 Posted 11/08/2012 at 22:33:04
I hate Rodwell; let's just put it out there... I can't stand the kid, I mean he's meant to be a holding midfielder but he always runs up and blasts it over, mainly because he can't learn from an actual CDM at Everton. There's no-one guiding how to play there (apart from Neville).
We'll get £10 mil and run for the hills.
808 Posted 11/08/2012 at 22:49:13
810 Posted 11/08/2012 at 23:22:03
811 Posted 11/08/2012 at 22:59:10
Haven't heard anything further on his hamstrings. Must be healthy if he's been called back into England's squad.
Besides, reading the OP, it's the same article been out about so many players City is in for. Just replaced all the other names with "Rodwell". Give me a reason to believe this one.
Funny, not a peep out of Mancini all the years he's been at City. Now he's finally won the League, he's Mr. Big Talk. Repeating pressure getting to you Roberto?
816 Posted 12/08/2012 at 00:17:20
Do me a favour!!!!!!
He's a headless chicken. And a shit one at that!!!
817 Posted 12/08/2012 at 00:17:30
819 Posted 11/08/2012 at 23:52:56
If there was any chance though and the money was even close to the £10M mark (a sane mid-level between different quotes) I think we should snap their hands off. Rodwell has shown signs of greatness but only very fleeting, in truth he's proved far more likely to be an injury risk than a match winner so far and my gut feeling is that it's just not going to happen for him with us.
If we had larger resources then of course we'd keep 50/50 youth prospects on (as well as old warhorses who could be impact subs!), the truth is we absolutely don't. We need to keep the playing setup (comparatively) lean, to sell before we can buy and to make each space count. Right now, Rodwell is 100% dispensable in terms of position and form/importance to the team (as opposed to say Baines, Pienaar, Heitinga, Felliani, Jelavic, etc) and if we can get some cash in from him to invest in strengthening on the right-hand side or providing striker cover it seems like a perfect deal.
To be honest it'll probably be best for Jack too - fresh start and maybe a different playing style more suited to bringing the best out of him (as it seemed the England setup was promising to).
820 Posted 12/08/2012 at 01:38:29
Err...why?
824 Posted 12/08/2012 at 02:34:08
What's best for Jack is to stay healthy and play for us.
826 Posted 12/08/2012 at 02:45:36
827 Posted 12/08/2012 at 03:02:49
Aged 21, 6ft 2in, quick, athletic, strong, can hit shots with either foot, and with 85 senior appearances plus England caps at every level. I'm not surprised other clubs would love to take him.
843 Posted 12/08/2012 at 09:57:03
Anyone willing to give away our promising young players for as little as that needs to have a serious word with themselves. I know opinion is divided but he's still very young and just been called up again into the full England squad, this all adds to our bargaining position.
Also, as an Everton lad, I doubt he's agitating for a move, and although rumour has it he's not the sharpest tool in the box I'm sure everyone realises he's going to get a lot more first team football, and therefore progress as a player, at Everton.
If you don't rate him, fair enough, everyone has their opinion and he can be quite frustrating, but if you would seriously sell one of our potentially biggest assets for £6M its going to be hard to take anything you say seriously about any subject.
Also, this is clearly a journalists slow day, 2 +2 = 5 kind of story. Mancini moans about signings, Rodwell gets called up for England, perfect recipe for a transfer rumour. I have no inside knowledge, but I'd reckon they don't want him, he doesn't want to go and we don't want to sell him.
845 Posted 12/08/2012 at 10:01:38
846 Posted 12/08/2012 at 10:11:54
847 Posted 12/08/2012 at 10:17:29
Erm - remember Wayne Rooney sound familiar?
849 Posted 12/08/2012 at 10:31:41
He did look good when he played for England that one time before the injury and it's a shame that he does do that for us.
850 Posted 12/08/2012 at 10:30:22
I say put a price on Jack £15 to £20m (considering the Joe allen, Phil Jones and Jordan Henderson fees) and stick to it. If no-one pays then great, we keep a potentially good player. If someone coughs up then spend it where it is needed (we all know where) and we have cover with Fellaini Gibson, maybe Pienaar and that Junior lad for centre mid. It's a win win for me.
852 Posted 12/08/2012 at 11:00:43
853 Posted 12/08/2012 at 11:02:11
You're an idiot pal.
855 Posted 12/08/2012 at 10:54:39
Paucity of news? Poor City! that's it poor city haven't signed a player, how about Van Persie?-done to death boss
Jack Wilshere then?-unlikely boss
Tevez?-he already plays for them boss
Oh ermmmm Mo Farrah, he's been in the news lately-he's quick boss, but slightly the wrong sport
Well how about that footballer that was couldn't make Team GB because of injury, whatshisname? John Roodwell-Jack Rodwell boss, he plays for Everton when he's not in the treatment room, slight goer 'cos Everton are skint and city have got money coming out of their ears
That's it! that's our story, Rodwell to City for an undisclosed fee-If you say so boss
860 Posted 12/08/2012 at 11:08:29
Rodwell is unlikely to be first choice when everyone is fit consistently gets great reviews based on potential but has failed to have 5 mom type performances on the bounce at anytime in a Everton shirt.
If Rodwell has another poor season in which injuries have played a part then his value will continue to fall. We would all love Rodwell to produce but his big plus points are being English, athletic and his size and engine with his footballing ability- passing, tackling, shooting, ball control, skill to go past players and reading of the game all being slightly above average with huge improvements needed in order to be considered a top class player.
861 Posted 12/08/2012 at 11:40:15
(1) A reporter under pressure from his editor to write shite?
(2) An attempt by one club to plant a story and unsettle another club's player?
(3) An agent after a fee?
(4) Someone mischief-making so as to try and unsettle our preparations for the new season?
(5) A "trial balloon" to test a reaction and see if a player might be available and at what sort of price?
There are other possibilities. Take your pick.
I personally think Rodwell has great potential yet to be realised and would be very sad if he left ... unless the hamstrings are shot and he's finished in which case get the maximum fee you can. SInce it's City, we are talking Lescott numbers.
862 Posted 12/08/2012 at 11:52:48
864 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:06:23
Not sure what it is going to be about
866 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:07:48
867 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:17:18
868 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:17:30
869 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:12:00
870 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:16:55
872 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:15:09
check the OS
874 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:20:49
875 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:24:34
Business done a week before the season kicks off. Does not give us much time to spend the cash and get a new player up to speed.
Another slow start beckons!
876 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:24:49
877 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:21:32
879 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:30:47
880 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:30:54
Stuart, the transfer window doesn't close when the season starts.
882 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:30:06
883 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:10:19
This isn't having a go, it's having a considered look over a few years. I'm not saying he's a bad player, just average and thus not irreplacable...and if City or who ever want to give us silly money, well keep stacking it on the table until you get fed up.
Without gettting into a Life of Brian - what have the Romans ever done for us, just what does he bring to the team?? Apart from being Young and Big, but somewhat of a gentle giant and not much 'mongrel' in him. Go on then... apart from potential ( soon to be in the un-fulfilled catagory ) what has he ever done for us??
Paul.. or anybody...List all the attributes, in the best possible world, you want out of a Midfielder and mark him out of 10...you won't get many below 6, but also you won't get many over 7!
I'll start you off...10+ goals a season? Nah! not unless he suddenly turns into a Cahill clone.
Jack of all trades, master of none.
QED.
884 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:35:06
A real shame that Jack never fulfilled his true potential with us. I wish him well and if he can maintain some fitness and develop some confidence I'm sure he'll go on to make a great player. Id have liked it to be with us but too much of a risk for us not to take the money and, of or saleable payers, he's the one I'd rather let go.
885 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:36:16
886 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:38:16
so much for looking forward to the new season
887 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:38:36
888 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:21:08
This could be good for Barkley he should get more chances now and it seems maybe Moyes has confidence in the junior kid who we got from City for fuck all.
Would City have been after Rodwell if he wasn't English? If Moyes gets the money this can be used to strengthen in other areas.
889 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:35:39
891 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:36:52
If I hadn't just heard about Sid Waddell I'd be elated!
I think Jack will suit City. Good luck to the lad. I hope he fulfills his promise
893 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:30:06
895 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:41:41
I just hope like hell we milked as much out of City as possible and that Moyes will see it. Right sided winger please!
896 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:44:15
897 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:44:23
898 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:43:45
Nothing about Johnson and too be honest if we are selling Rodwell for £15m I cant see Johnson being involved as City value him around the same figure!
900 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:44:24
901 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:43:44
902 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:44:39
903 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:47:39
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19232773
904 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:38:13
That said, every player has his price and City usually pay top dollar. In Osman, Gibson, Fellaini, Pienaar and potentially Junior, we have plenty of options in centre-mid. Dare I say it Neville and Heitinga can also fill in and do a job if we are short.
In the wide areas there is only really Pienaar that I have 100% confidence in. Naismith has looked promising but it's early days. So if we can re-invest this some of this money and bring in a proven wide midfielder and have enough left to bring in some quality back up for Jelly even on loan then I'll be okay with this sale.
Best of luck Jack.
907 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:48:39
Looking at the average players Liverpool have bought for £15 million upwards, it's a pity they didn't get involved - theyd've probably paid double
Still - it''ll pay the police bill and defer the banks "killing us", to paraphrase our chairman
908 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:56:26
909 Posted 12/08/2012 at 12:57:11
it just feels like we've spent 5 years getting depth in our squad then destroyed it all in 1 month
910 Posted 12/08/2012 at 13:00:47
If we do get £15m with add ons it should be a fair price. We cant afford to have a player who, if he keeps fit could be an amazing midfielder or someone who 3 years down the line is worth very little due to injury issues?
Yes Ill be sad to see him go but in footall their is no sentimate its just business.
913 Posted 12/08/2012 at 13:18:20
If the fee is 15million, then Moyes will get at least 10 to spend. If a loan deal for Jonhson is tagged on, then this might be the best bit of business of the summer. Why do you want depth in the central midfield Chris? when we clearly need to spend elsewhere. We have Gibson and Fellaini who can play centrally, as well as Osman in an attacking sense, and Neville in a more defensive position, and we've got the Portugese youngster and Barkley coming through. Central midfield is one the position we can afford to lose players in.
And feeder club? what do you expect. We are the seventh best team in the league, with the worse finances in the league, of course we are going to struggle to resist offers. Even Arsenal, the fourth/third best team in the league are a feeder club, if you want to look at it like that. But we haven't sold Heitinga, Fellaini, Baines or Jelavic..we've sold our overrated central midfielder, probaly for an excessive amount, which will allow us to fend off offers for others and strengthen our first eleven. And we've hadnt had to go through a morale damaging transfer episode, like we did with Lescott.
If Andy Johnson doesnt come in, then I expect Matt Phillips will. I wouldn't be surprised if we were the club who 'tapped him up', because we would have been aware of this deal for a little while.
914 Posted 12/08/2012 at 13:27:17
915 Posted 12/08/2012 at 13:26:56
916 Posted 12/08/2012 at 13:26:10
Phil Sammon - Thanks !
Rodwell, if its more than £10m with a loan thrown in, its got to be good for all involved. He will hardly get a game though whilst YaYa Toure is there.
917 Posted 12/08/2012 at 13:32:38
That's absurd mate. We've just sold a fringe player for £15 mil.
Rodwell needs games to fulfill his potential. He wasn't getting that at Everton - will he at City?!
The major supeuse for me is that just last week Rodwell was given the number 8 for Everton. This sale was clearly a very swift one
918 Posted 12/08/2012 at 13:30:29
Get in!
919 Posted 12/08/2012 at 13:28:57
I respect your opinion and pragamatism, even thogh I've no idea how you can be so certain of Everton's financial situation when, by his own admission, our chairman isn't
With regard to the purchase price of Downing, Henderson and Allen what, re Rodwell, do you consider to be "an excessive amount"?
Now, that should be an interesting answer
920 Posted 12/08/2012 at 13:35:28
921 Posted 12/08/2012 at 13:36:51
922 Posted 12/08/2012 at 13:33:24
If Moyes can bring in a quality £10m midfielder in as a replacement, I can only see us improving.
Rodwell was still in the " potential " category for me, and we are desperate to replace Cahill's goal contributions from midfield.
923 Posted 12/08/2012 at 13:38:18
925 Posted 12/08/2012 at 13:42:40
927 Posted 12/08/2012 at 13:46:46
Now if we manage to get Landycakes or similar in on the right and another striker, this may be the best bit of business this summer!!!
928 Posted 12/08/2012 at 13:48:34
929 Posted 12/08/2012 at 13:39:34
930 Posted 12/08/2012 at 13:51:24
936 Posted 12/08/2012 at 13:59:47
937 Posted 12/08/2012 at 14:01:02
Looks like its going to be an interesting couple of weeks
938 Posted 12/08/2012 at 14:03:43
939 Posted 12/08/2012 at 14:04:45
None of the above though.
940 Posted 12/08/2012 at 14:03:11
Keep the faith, I believe kenwright will go soon.
941 Posted 12/08/2012 at 14:06:46
943 Posted 12/08/2012 at 14:07:17
947 Posted 12/08/2012 at 14:08:29
Paul Gladwells post 915 is so scary, paid off 5 mortgages last week ! How many more have we got ffs...
951 Posted 12/08/2012 at 14:14:38
952 Posted 12/08/2012 at 14:29:00
954 Posted 12/08/2012 at 14:31:47
Surely Santa Cruz is the definition of a 'Premier League also-ran'
955 Posted 12/08/2012 at 14:30:18
Before you call me an idiot again Phil, its just what Im hearing and this is the Rumour Mill...
957 Posted 12/08/2012 at 14:33:08
959 Posted 12/08/2012 at 14:33:47
960 Posted 12/08/2012 at 13:59:11
We have to pay off £24 million due in debt this season.
961 Posted 12/08/2012 at 14:35:56
963 Posted 12/08/2012 at 14:37:00
964 Posted 12/08/2012 at 14:31:52
A younger cheaper option on the right could be David Bentley. A bit of a knob but I always thought he had alot of ability. I think Spurs would let him go cheaply, he can't have many years left on his contract and he had a bad knee injury last year while on loan. May be worth a punt?
965 Posted 12/08/2012 at 14:22:50
The way its been the last year or so I have been half expecting a sale and if this is the way to square off a bit of debt and Moyes can get 2 in where we need it, right side and legit cover up top, this is the best way.
Pace, we are desperate for pace. I wouldnt expect anything too earth shattering we will be fishing in something like the £3-6 million Championship pool.
Moyes knows he needs a striker as he was sniffing around Rodellega and although he wouldnt be earth shattering Moyes has shown interest in Doyle before, is quick, can do lone striker, knows the division and can get 10-12 league. Id be ok with him but could understand people being underehelmed.
You don't get much for £5 million or so usually these days, the Jelavic deal was a freak.
966 Posted 12/08/2012 at 14:47:03
967 Posted 12/08/2012 at 14:53:58
971 Posted 12/08/2012 at 15:01:55
Bosingwa (free)
Moses (9 mill)
Defoe (6mill)
JOB DONE!
972 Posted 12/08/2012 at 15:05:39
974 Posted 12/08/2012 at 15:07:21
975 Posted 12/08/2012 at 15:08:39
I am unaware of any Defoe bid. Him and Jelly would be top class!
Editorial Team
983 Posted 12/08/2012 at 15:16:51
I'm switching the discussion about Rodwell to the main Homepage article, and will move a bunch of the more recent posts over there... but I'll leave the fantasy football chatter and other unsubstantiated twatter stuff here...
Sorry for any inconvenience!
987 Posted 12/08/2012 at 15:17:53
989 Posted 12/08/2012 at 15:25:06
Either Moyes has walked or investment maybe?
991 Posted 12/08/2012 at 15:18:33
Our wages have decreased massively over the last two seasons. Be interesting, albeit probably impossible because of hidden figures, to see our wage savings. I'd say it's at less £5million a season.
I really expect us to sign Matt Phillips, and a striker. Spurs won't sell Defoe because they have no strikers and I expect we will probably buy from the champ or abroad.
Has Rhodes gone? We need a creative player in on loan as well, as we are fucked when Pienaar gets injured. Yobo, Cahill and Rodwell out is pretty good going in my book, as I think they are all players we could afford to lose.
993 Posted 12/08/2012 at 15:28:07
995 Posted 12/08/2012 at 15:25:07
996 Posted 12/08/2012 at 15:28:51
I am guessing as to what it is.
997 Posted 12/08/2012 at 15:27:37
998 Posted 12/08/2012 at 15:29:48
000 Posted 12/08/2012 at 15:31:22
001 Posted 12/08/2012 at 15:31:32
BORN AN EVERTONIAN DIE AN EVERTONIAN · 11,497 like this.
25 minutes ago · ..
Bill Kenwright has somethin big to announce tomorrow.
The only thing I can think off is this new invester who is supposedly be buying out one of our mega shareholders.. just hope he's gonna invest some of his wonga into the club as well.
004 Posted 12/08/2012 at 15:43:04
I've heard a couple of people talk about something happening tomorrow, fingers crossed it's good news.
015 Posted 12/08/2012 at 15:57:40
016 Posted 12/08/2012 at 16:06:53
017 Posted 12/08/2012 at 16:08:09
020 Posted 12/08/2012 at 16:10:59
If we got 10m or more, great business imo (even if it all goes to the bank).
023 Posted 12/08/2012 at 16:14:38
024 Posted 12/08/2012 at 14:13:27
We can finish Top 8 with the current squad. What's two places in the league worth, £1m? Coz best case scenario that's as high as we'll end up with those kinds of names coming in. What's the point of spending £12m to recoup £1m? Plus we'd qualify for Europa which would make the depth of our squad a much larger problem while earning us fuck all like the previous times we were in it. Meanwhile, we wouldn't have reduced any debt. Let's get those interest payments down while we can and hopefully attract a buyer coz when we run out of players to sell and we're still left owing £40m+ at prime rates, we're screwed.
027 Posted 12/08/2012 at 16:17:12
028 Posted 12/08/2012 at 16:21:39
033 Posted 12/08/2012 at 16:26:07
034 Posted 12/08/2012 at 16:22:09
Sorry to see Jack go, I was hoping this would be his season to come good for us, but If its £15 million plus add ons I think its great business. He may go on to be a great player, but it's doubtful City will see any profit when it comes to move him on. And if Moyes can do his usual transfer magic we will be ok. And at least the bank will get their money early this year.
036 Posted 12/08/2012 at 16:30:45
Editorial Team
039 Posted 12/08/2012 at 16:36:41
Can somebody please put up a link?
Thanks
045 Posted 12/08/2012 at 16:45:54
Personally, I'd like to see Matt Phillips or Johnson as number one targets. Shame the likes of Hoilett etc are gone now.
053 Posted 12/08/2012 at 16:53:22
058 Posted 12/08/2012 at 17:04:57
Football Agentþ@FootballAgent49
Everton have now turned their attentions to signing Lewis Holtby, they are also tracking several right backs.
062 Posted 12/08/2012 at 17:07:31
063 Posted 12/08/2012 at 17:09:37
If Dempsey would only leave Fulham for the Champions League then there goes liverpool's chances of signing him I guess.
069 Posted 12/08/2012 at 17:17:11
074 Posted 12/08/2012 at 17:16:45
So ya can bet £5m will go to wherever to make up the £5m deficit we have every year according to Elstone and £10m will go towards team building.
I wouldn't believe all the things you hear on twitter as some "ITK's" are saying we could get Santa Cruz on loan as part of the deal, and the same one going by the name of @EvertonITK says a deal for Adam Johnson is on, £7m rising to £10m. He also says were signing Katidis, a young Greek lad we've had on trial this year. Thing is, this @EvertonITK as been right on a few Everton transfer fronts, so who knows, but I won't believe a thing till it's announced on the OS!
And just another thing, Greg O'Keeffe said Heitinga could even go before the close of the window as he's looking at his options but will only be allowed to leave if Everton can get in a replacement?!.
So, in the great words of Mrs Kenwright, watch this space! :D
076 Posted 12/08/2012 at 17:21:50
080 Posted 12/08/2012 at 17:22:37
152 Posted 12/08/2012 at 18:40:50
He did say that he would love to play for Everton & maybe just maybe if we offer enough he might force the transfer thru??
240 Posted 12/08/2012 at 21:29:12
243 Posted 12/08/2012 at 21:45:01
Hasn't been backed up once. What would the clown say anyway? "I didn't want Jack to leave"?
Fuck off Kenwright. It'd all be lies anyway
245 Posted 12/08/2012 at 21:49:12
249 Posted 12/08/2012 at 21:55:18
Oh hang on, it hasn't... shit.
250 Posted 12/08/2012 at 22:05:04
258 Posted 12/08/2012 at 22:30:14
266 Posted 12/08/2012 at 23:06:43
267 Posted 12/08/2012 at 23:10:49
(Could be bollocks..my source isn't always reliable).
268 Posted 12/08/2012 at 23:12:30
269 Posted 12/08/2012 at 23:13:37
298 Posted 13/08/2012 at 00:42:38
I GIVE UP!
304 Posted 13/08/2012 at 01:02:00
307 Posted 13/08/2012 at 01:04:22
312 Posted 13/08/2012 at 01:32:04
I bet if I made up 100 transfer rumours a day I'd be bound to get one right occassionally.
316 Posted 13/08/2012 at 02:33:45
Maybe we could bring in Alan Hutton who at 27 is nearing his peak, and would be a mirror image of Baines on the right, giving us an alternative route to goal than the one that other sides work so hard to shut down.
A specialist winger would be ideal to finish the jigsaw off, as I see our side as the strongest since DM took over. True we are a smallish squad, but with youngsters like Barkley, Duffy and Bidwell, all they need is some match time (maybe league cup ties) and this season could be a decent one.
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782 Posted 11/08/2012 at 21:12:38