The Rumour Mill
Double swoop for Doyle and Ward
The Mail claims that Kevin Doyle is firmly back on Everton's radar — along with left back Stephen Ward — based on nothing more than Everton manager David Moyes was at Molineux on Tuesday night, apparently to see Doyle and Ward help Wolves to a 3-1 win over Barnsley.
The Mail claims that Moyes has long admired Doyle's unstinting work-rate and had a bid for his services last January rejected.
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593 Posted 23/08/2012 at 15:25:47
As for Doyle, I don't know, he's one of those strikers that gets 'work rate' mentioned more often than goals about him. Anyone decent wont want to come here and watch Jelavic play though.
597 Posted 23/08/2012 at 15:35:09
599 Posted 23/08/2012 at 15:34:28
600 Posted 23/08/2012 at 15:43:17
601 Posted 23/08/2012 at 15:41:50
602 Posted 23/08/2012 at 15:43:59
Don't know much about Ward, but some sort of back-up for Baines should be a priorty. I know that Distin, Jags or Neville could all sort of play there, but none would be much good and all are better elsewhere on the park. It doesn't look like we've got anyone coming through the reserves to play left back, so we need some kind of reinforcement even if not much good.
608 Posted 23/08/2012 at 16:18:37
610 Posted 23/08/2012 at 16:43:32
620 Posted 23/08/2012 at 17:25:40
621 Posted 23/08/2012 at 17:28:49
622 Posted 23/08/2012 at 17:29:40
623 Posted 23/08/2012 at 17:26:09
625 Posted 23/08/2012 at 17:34:45
631 Posted 23/08/2012 at 18:07:06
636 Posted 23/08/2012 at 18:19:09
Doyle is a trier but isn't clinical and is going downhill the last while. He simply doesn't pose enough threat anymore.
Ward is a fullback who was playing as a striker in League of Ireland football for Bohemians not so long ago. He is nowhere near good enough for the Premier League. His positional sense is awful and his distribution is worse.
If the money is to be spent it should be on somebody who will lift the side even further. Not squad fillers.
638 Posted 23/08/2012 at 18:27:17
642 Posted 23/08/2012 at 18:22:49
Daily Mail is fiction from front page to back - disregard.
But what was Moyes up to? If Mark T is right about their valuation of Doyle that would be the end of that. Plus, as we have just brought in two attacking players anyway, it doesn't seem right does it.
And when Baines was out last season we did cover him well with Nev and Distin (very much needing Heitinga - note). So was looking at anyone?, and if so, who?
Or maybe he just can't help it. You know what he's like. Keeps him out of the pub at least.
643 Posted 23/08/2012 at 18:47:14
I like Doyle, he's hard working and, fair enough GJ he didn't set the world alight during the qualifiers but he chased every ball and won every header that Trapp had the boys ping at him.
Ward is versatile and quite a decent ball player but his positioning defesnsively is very bad. Played every minute in the league last year for Wolves. What does that tell you? Yeah, I don't know either.
649 Posted 23/08/2012 at 19:14:47
651 Posted 23/08/2012 at 19:16:38
We have cover for Baines. Distin has shown he can do a job, Neville has played there and Garbutt is meant to be the next big thing.
I'd like to see most or all spent on another forward. Either someone creative or someone to push Jelavic for that striker role (let's face it, he currently has no competition).
Maybe we could get a loan or cheap player in to be a reserve defensive mid, in case Gibson gets injured. I'd like Junior and Barkley given some time in the box to box midfield role though. See if they justify the hype.
667 Posted 23/08/2012 at 20:07:50
700 Posted 23/08/2012 at 21:11:18
708 Posted 23/08/2012 at 21:45:51
716 Posted 23/08/2012 at 23:17:56
£10m for Jarvis & £14m for Fletcher.
They wont let Doyle go on the cheap to. Unless he has a year left
im guessing we probably have about £9-10m left from the sale of Rodwell Cahill & Yobo
There is no way on earth we will have that to spend on players as the bank will have a big piece of that.
In my own opinion if anyone is coming in it will be 1 maybe 2 squad players on a loan.And hopefully to extend contracts for players like Baines Felli etc.
718 Posted 23/08/2012 at 23:23:44
Yes we do need cover for Baines but Ward is not the man and Doyle is just another Andy Johnson clone mostly inconsistant these days.
753 Posted 24/08/2012 at 07:44:42
Why are they linked with us?
761 Posted 24/08/2012 at 08:47:28
I love football but if Wolves and Barnsley were playing in my back garden, I'd draw the curtains.
762 Posted 24/08/2012 at 08:51:11
809 Posted 24/08/2012 at 13:24:32
812 Posted 24/08/2012 at 13:35:00
And games such as the Sunderland four-nil on bank holiday before the semi-final where jelly was rested. Stracqs deputised well. More than useful to have a squad/target man in who is a grafter who is not injured often and knows he won't be an automatic first choice.
813 Posted 24/08/2012 at 13:44:18
819 Posted 24/08/2012 at 14:10:46
Central midfield is the only position I think we are light in with only Gibson, Fellaini and possibly Osman able to play in the 2 spots in the middle of the park. Maybe Barkley and Junior are ready to step up but I feel one more senior player to cover here would be useful.
Actually I would be interested to see Pienaar in the middle of the park with Mirallas on left wing (where he plays for Belgium) Naismith on the right and Fella continuing behind Jelly. I think Pienaars combination of work ethic, intelligence and great touch would be brilliant in the middle of the park. Shame to break up his left wing link with Baines but reckon Mirallas and him could strike up similar link pretty quickly.
827 Posted 24/08/2012 at 14:39:01
Mirallas is versatile, but doesn't amount to two players on his own, so it makes perfect sense that he would be continuing to look for at least one more attacking player with whatever money he has left, and also possibly be looking for loan targets to strengthen the squad generally.
I agree with the majority in that I hope that this was merely a scouting mission that didn't work out and hope that we have some better options that will bear fruit in the next week .
I have disagreed with Sam elsewhere, so I will be consistent and reaffirm that I see no good reason for DM to wreck his careful plans by trying to force attacking players into more withdrawn roles when Fellaini could easily be the stand-out midfielder in the premiership this year in his more orthodox position.
If the likes of Naismith and Mirallas flop then Fellaini is a good option in the support striker role, but the attacking players (Jelavic, Pienaar, Naismith and Mirallas) have to be given some opportunity to prove their worth in a formation that will hopefully bring the best out of all of them.
Neville and Heitinga are two more players who can cover defensive midfield that Sam has somehow ommitted, but I would also be happy for another option to be brought in on loan as it is one of a number of positions were we may require proven second-choices.
If no-one else is brought in before September 1st, then I would feel let-down given what has been said; if we somehow end up with less players than we have now then I would fell betrayed.
844 Posted 24/08/2012 at 16:12:38
993 Posted 25/08/2012 at 02:33:21
228 Posted 26/08/2012 at 00:56:44
232 Posted 26/08/2012 at 01:29:08
Comes down to price really, as I don't see this as a likely loan with option to buy looking at the transfer business Wolves have done recently.
As DM has said, managers generally prefer to buy British (known quantities) but the best deals, in terms of value for money, are more likely to be for foreign based players the way the market is going.
465 Posted 27/08/2012 at 10:03:52
470 Posted 27/08/2012 at 10:42:22
Si, I'm sure I heard on Talksport that the players from the lower clubs in Spain have a basic salary of 1250 Euros a month. So coming to even a Championship side is some payday for them. Did anyone else hear that, I only caught a part of the conversation.
Kev Johnson @465 Are you still available, Kev?
471 Posted 27/08/2012 at 10:43:56
473 Posted 27/08/2012 at 10:48:27
Talk Sport = cockneys and some fat ex-Liverpool player talking out of their backsides before hopping into their white van to read the Daily Star.
Not that I'm into stereotyping but it's just how they come across to me.
I can't understand either player being linked and think we have other areas of the team that requires cover.
I'm hoping this French "wonder kid" signs today.
Anyone know the latest?
474 Posted 27/08/2012 at 10:57:03
The club told me that EUFA recently introduced new legislation whereby there is a "Kev quota" for each team - and with Mirallas joining, there is no room for me. I must admit, I've never heard of this legislation. It's odd. Maybe the club were just trying to fob me off? All very disappointing.
478 Posted 27/08/2012 at 11:24:35
481 Posted 27/08/2012 at 11:30:43
I was ahead of you with the perception of Talkcrap presenters...I'm just impressed with your ability to refrain from profanities when describing them.
Kev, change your name, mate, you might be needed. Wayne, Duane, Shane, something like that...
488 Posted 27/08/2012 at 11:37:28
As regards, Talksport, I think Hawksby & Jacobs are pretty good, they make me laugh. And they have a French guy on sometimes, Philippe Auclair - he is excellent.
491 Posted 27/08/2012 at 12:35:30
I just hope we can hold onto ALL of our players this week.
493 Posted 27/08/2012 at 12:34:11
My profanities are reserved for the (very infrequent) occasion when I listen to Talksport (or whenever I see an image of Suarez or Gerrard). There used to be some Everton supporting radio presenter who was OK but, even then, the split of 30:70 talk to commercials ratio used to drive me insane (I'll never buy from Screwfix again). The rest of them are morons.
Anyway, I don't want to take this thread off topic (as with others!) so I definitely don't want to see those two Wolves players or anyone called Charlie appear at Goodison this week.
498 Posted 27/08/2012 at 13:22:28
No. It wasn't the fox, but a shot of Penicillin sorted things out...
Mike, I'm with you on the Charlie business.....isn't that a pseudonym for something else?
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589 Posted 23/08/2012 at 15:07:04