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Jelavic rift could prompt his exit
The report suggests that Jelavic has clashed with Mirallas before — it doesn't say when and offers no other supporting evidence for the claims — but this supposed rift between the Croatian and the Belgian was apparently raised on a City Talk discussion forum last week.
The paper also claims that Jelavic could hand in a transfer request and that Arsenal would be interested in signing him.
Greg O'Keeffe of the Liverpool Echo, meanwhile, claimed on Twitter earlier today that the story was untrue.
Indeed, the raising of the Arsenal angle makes this look like a cheap attempt to unsettle a player who, despite a recent dip in form, has been a huge success since arriving from Rangers in January.
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455 Posted 27/11/2012 at 14:48:42
I prefer my wingers to be selfish, they don't really work any other way.
456 Posted 27/11/2012 at 14:48:48
Jelavić has dipped in form, I'm afraid that happens to all goal scorers. I doubt very much that there is anything in this.
458 Posted 27/11/2012 at 14:51:16
I think Mirallas is getting in and around Jelavic's areas and not passing to him. Surely two players of their quality can work together and click.
459 Posted 27/11/2012 at 14:55:51
Well looks like we'll have to sell half our team: Baines, Fellaini, Howard, Jelavic... anyone else want to leave when David Moyes goes?
No wonder Arsene Wenger doesn't think Everton can be a big club!
464 Posted 27/11/2012 at 15:02:47
Mirallas often tends to look to shoot even spending up a lot of energy to get into a shooting position rather than look for the killer pass, but FFS. Grow up on this!
Jelly looked pumped up enough with his goal v Sunderland; but v Norwich, he was not even attacking the spaces where he coulda got a goal.
465 Posted 27/11/2012 at 15:08:46
466 Posted 27/11/2012 at 15:04:52
Strikers these days do tend to sulk if things aren't going their way. You only have to look at Fernando Torres. I think the case could be the same with Jelavic. He's going through a sulking stage. A similar thing has happened with Papis Cisse at Newcastle.
I am a firm believer though that if you put the ball in the right areas for Jelavic, he'll score. At the moment, we're not doing that. But the same also applies to him as well, he needs to get in those positions and I think he has become a bit lazy. A typical example was last weekend when Baines was having ago for not moving. Baines is not one to lose his aggro and there did appear to be a bit of tension between both. Maybe his form has dipped due to break down in relationships with certain players, I hope not.
469 Posted 27/11/2012 at 15:12:05
If it is true then i'd be glad to see him go, we don't need such childish crap at everton!! Especially when you consider what they're being paid!!
Can you imagine him putting in his transfer request:
NJ: "... hi boss I'm here to hand in a transfer request"
DM: "Why jelly? whats making you so unhappy?"
NJ: "It's Kevin! He doesn't pass to me and its making me sad"
DM: "Grow the F**k up!!"
474 Posted 27/11/2012 at 14:55:51
475 Posted 27/11/2012 at 15:34:55
481 Posted 27/11/2012 at 15:37:43
As for Mirallas, I'm glad we have finally got someone who sometimes thinks "I'm going alone". Moyes will reign him in if it gets too much but I've liked what I have seen so far, and can't think of many occasions where I've thought "Pass it, for Christ's sake!"
483 Posted 27/11/2012 at 15:39:03
Top players respect other top players regardless of what happens on the pitch, if they had a flare up then fine but if they are really two top players they wouldn't let it affect their performances and would respect the value of the other on the pitch. If Jelavic's form is affected by this then he's not the top player we thought he was. Convenient how it's Arsenal interested in him the day before we play them though isn't it?
484 Posted 27/11/2012 at 15:43:02
485 Posted 27/11/2012 at 15:49:58
487 Posted 27/11/2012 at 16:12:35
But this is just getting ridiculous. So the media has us selling our star left back in January, Heitinga in January, our star striker in January, our star midfielder in January. Sure, I can see that happening. We'll sell off the entire team midseason, that's likely to happen, right? Enough of this shit.
488 Posted 27/11/2012 at 16:24:03
Jelavic's poor form is chiefly down to the fact that he isn't getting any service. Granted, his approach play has been sloppy at times, he has had a tendency to take the wrong option and he's missed a couple of good chances.
But if his half-volley against Reading goes in instead of being blocked by Morrison's arm, or that similar chance against Norwich that deflected over then he's a hero and back to his best.
490 Posted 27/11/2012 at 16:20:28
There have been occasions earlier this season when I have thought players such as Naismith and Mirallas should just give the ball to Jelavic in the last third or in the box, but recently I have been less sure as his form has been poor. If he is criticising those around him then hopefully he is being very hard on himself at the same time. He is not in the Lineker or Shearer league yet and he should realise that at the moment he is a very decent striker with room for improvement.
I think we lack a real leader on the pitch, someone who can credibly tell players when they are screwing up. James Martin is right that happy families does not always produce good results
Like most Evertonians, I'm looking forward to the returns of Mirallas and Gibson and hopefully getting back to winning ways, whether there's arguments between players or not.
493 Posted 27/11/2012 at 16:46:44
494 Posted 27/11/2012 at 16:18:00
If it is true that Jelli's ego is threatened by the impact of Kev Mirallas then this is where the manager really earns his money. The bottom line is that results are what matter, not who grabs the headlines, and all need to be convinced that they are employed to be part of a team. In an industry where personal profile and individual glory is so marketable that may be a tricky thing to do.
Dione Dublin was on the radio the other day saying that SAF was brilliant at integrating strong individual personalities into the overall team, which has to be a key skill if some of the maverick players have personalities to match.
495 Posted 27/11/2012 at 16:48:01
497 Posted 27/11/2012 at 16:49:35
I thought Mirallas was both brilliant and selfish when he finally got playing for us, but he still has a lot of work to do to strike the right balance. Funny how we loved to see Coleman go head down and running at the defence, but if anything Mirallas overeggs it too often, failing to make the pass and running into the brick wall.
And just watching Jelavic's body language and positioning in recent games, it does fit with something not being right. Something more than lack of service.
499 Posted 27/11/2012 at 17:00:55
It's one of those situations whereby it's difficult to comment without inside knowledge...
500 Posted 27/11/2012 at 17:00:50
In saying that, the odd occasion Mirallas and Coleman have teamed up on the right it has worked wonders — Fulham, Southampton — but Moyes does seem to want to put Mirallas out wide left, and Jelavic suffers.
502 Posted 27/11/2012 at 17:10:30
505 Posted 27/11/2012 at 17:11:43
506 Posted 27/11/2012 at 17:04:31
My belief is that if we play well against Arsenal and Jelavic scores then his confidence will soar.
It's just all mind games from various 'sources' who want to unnerve the club, team, fans etc. Remember when we were in good form beating teams with ease at the start of the season? The media were praising us from every corner, now that we are in bad form (but still 5th I might add) they are coming up with Baines to Man Utd, Heitinga out, Jelavic leaving because Mirallas won't pass.
Don't worry; when we start getting results, these things will disappear again. I don't read into it at all, and I only concentrate on the positives.
510 Posted 27/11/2012 at 17:21:09
It's a bit like formula one teams I guess — some go down the route of having a Number 1 driver and the second is clearly, well... second, and the other teams who prefer to have two drivers fighting it out. I prefer the latter myself...
512 Posted 27/11/2012 at 17:27:00
I'm prepared for pelters but maybe Darren Bent could be worth a punt. Frozen out at Villa, so he should be reasonably priced and you'd hope had a point to prove which could result in a similar sort of scoring record Jelly gave us last season. Or maybe old candle-wax face could get a game.
517 Posted 27/11/2012 at 17:42:43
I think he is an exciting player but the way he plays has certainly upset the balance up front. It's not just Jelavic — look at Pienaar.
518 Posted 27/11/2012 at 17:22:34
525 Posted 27/11/2012 at 18:05:16
So what.
Jelavic needs to put his dummy back in his mouth and get on with scoring goals.
526 Posted 27/11/2012 at 18:11:04
Mirallas missed the last two fixtures and Jelavic was unlucky not to score in both. He is an out-of-form good player. Confidence will return when he scores. I guess this will happen when the midfield is back to full strength or something approaching it.
527 Posted 27/11/2012 at 18:07:08
And what the heck has he to do on the left wing? But that is DM's fault... he is slowing the game down when he needs to stop and turn the ball to his right foot before he can pass... in the meantime, all our players have been marked out.
No, put him back on the right wing and leave Pienaar as servant for them two in the middle, he knows how it is done, and luckily I saw Oviedo has the same qualities...
So why Moyes is using Mirallas on the left is still puzzling me... but it seem like a sabotage of EFC's chances to get the fourth spot.
528 Posted 27/11/2012 at 18:15:39
Baines to United, Cole to PSG, Lescott to Chelsea and Bale to Barca.
Champions League... We're having a laugh... (refrain until boredom sets in).
Don't you just love footy!
531 Posted 27/11/2012 at 18:16:08
534 Posted 27/11/2012 at 18:21:52
He is prepared to have a dig which has been an Everton failing for years, although getting stuff on target is the new Everton issue.
544 Posted 27/11/2012 at 18:31:48
Jelavic seems to be one those players who needs a hand on his shoulder, other than take a bollocking.
Once again, it is up to the manager to find a way of making it work, and we all know Moyes's record is up there with the best... when it comes to destroying strikers.
Jelavic to bang in a couple tomorrow night then!
546 Posted 27/11/2012 at 18:54:30
553 Posted 27/11/2012 at 19:15:41
555 Posted 27/11/2012 at 19:17:32
1. Play your in-form and best centre-half at centre-half.
2. Play Baines and Pienaar on left. Do not swap Pienaar over.
3. Do not play Neville in midfield.
4. Don't cut your nose to spite your face.
5. When it looks like the opposition are likely to score and you're in the 2nd half and have 3 substitutions left, make changes.
Revolutionary advice.
557 Posted 27/11/2012 at 19:33:14
575 Posted 27/11/2012 at 20:15:58
Howard
Coleman Jagielka Distin Baines
Gibson Fellaini
Mirallas Pienaar Oviedo
Jelavic
579 Posted 27/11/2012 at 21:05:06
580 Posted 27/11/2012 at 21:03:02
581 Posted 27/11/2012 at 21:13:00
582 Posted 27/11/2012 at 21:16:05
When everyone isn't fit Coleman still is nowhere near the starting 11!
583 Posted 27/11/2012 at 21:06:46
585 Posted 27/11/2012 at 21:12:51
Howard
Coleman Jagielka Duffy Baines
Gibson Fellaini
Mirallas Barkley Pienaar
Jelavic
586 Posted 27/11/2012 at 21:30:10
590 Posted 27/11/2012 at 21:38:42
Gibson > Neville > Hitzlsperger.
Effortlessly brushing aside Man Utd and Villa > Playing great deserving to win most but giving away soft points > Not even playing that well, can't defend anymore.
614 Posted 28/11/2012 at 01:23:08
For the Arsenal game we should really mix things up. If Jelavic is having another off game, put Mirallas up front for 20-30 minutes. Could show Jelavic that his role isn't a given every week and Mirallas gets some time in his preferred position.
624 Posted 28/11/2012 at 06:05:10
664 Posted 28/11/2012 at 11:06:44
I think the story is bollocks. The only thing you notice about strikers is when they are scoring goals, it doesn't matter how hard they work. If they aren't scoring then everyone thinks something is wrong.
At the moment, Jelavic isn't scoring as regularly as he was but it's only been two games since he last scored and he will score the winner against Arsenal, City and Spurs so I don't know what the problem is?
668 Posted 28/11/2012 at 11:24:35
That said, I've noticed since his debut that Mirallas is greedy. Despite what Nick says, wingers are there to create chances for others and score, and Mirallas will always try to score before he passes.
I remember when we signed him some Rangers fans said he'd be an 18-monther, though they never hinted at any problem with him per se, more that we'd be a stepping stone to a CL club.
Moyes and strikers – it never lasts eh? Maybe Ossie or Hibbo should retrain as a striker – solve that problem.
962 Posted 29/11/2012 at 23:37:57
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454 Posted 27/11/2012 at 14:47:57
I have no idea if there is the slightest truth in it. If there is a problem, I would hope it can be overcome for the good of the team. Surely they can be professional?