Manchester City join Chelsea in chase for David Moyes

The man is castigated by fickle fans and he is a virtual 'punchbag' for the board who are a disgrace.

If he goes then God help us because this board will not contribute any financial support to any prospective manager stupid enough to take his place. He is well paid and his project was and still is to keep us in the Premier League. He has done that and gained himself a very good reputation by neutrals who can see that he lacks backing but has now produced a very good first eleven.

I believe he wants to take the club further but is stymied by this board who are happy with survival, once the 40 points is gained. They will only produce a serious amount of money for transfers if relegation threatens. The fans are ignored and only a big drop in attendances will stir activity from this indolent bunch of multi-millionaires.

However, I look forward to Moyes leaving to see if a major English football institution will wither and die just because a manager (one of the highest paid in world football) who has yet to win anything, leaves.

If he gets the job within the higher echelons that you clearly feel he deserves, I also look forward to see how he copes with a board and fanbase who will expect him to cope with the Messi's and Ronaldo's and win away in the Champions League and deliver these trophies . I hope he does better than he did against D.Bucharest, Liege, Lisbon etc.

It will also be interesting to see how he likes the chairman telling him who to buy and sacking him after a losing streak.

I also look forward to seeing how many 'stupid' coaches will want a job that can pay £3million p/year ,have a squad full of internationals on big money and a chairman who is notoriously loyal AND doesn't expect to win anything.

Trevor, these neutrals you talk of, there are plenty who believe the Everton 'model' is the way forward for those with no billionaires to bank roll them. You conveniently ignore that though don't you?!

No instant success, goodbye.

Moyes likes to build carefully and slowly to blend a team together.

No much chance at City or Chelsea.

But their owners are mega capitalists and succeed at all costs mind-sets and our gaffer would (1) not strike the right cords at either place (2) not wish to be put in that position and (3) is a decent and dignified bloke, the main reason I still like him - not the same as supporting him at this moment in time - and will follow his heart not his wallet.

I'm not one who believes that DM deserves a richer club. His forte may well turn out to be an Everton. He has no history of splashing out huge sponds, though I wonder how much input he would have at the Bridge, another reason given his feathered nest in L4 for him to hang on. There is little in DM's CV to say he would make a tip-top big sponds/Champs league gaffer - but if he did, I would be happy for him.

For me, it is time to part company for his ambitions and our sake. But the big question, who else? He's more likely to go than be pushed, so in some respects that's totally fucking irrelevant.

Most likely scenario, DM resigns, so who else doesn't fucking matter, we will be forced to find someone else.

Ha, who else, is always predicated on Moyes being fired and that will never happen.

I do think however, there is a reasonable chance, we might see him move abroad, possibly to Germany or if Lennon was ever fired then to Celtic.

With Chelsea, I could see it. I think that the quickfire approach just hasn't worked for them and Moyes could get the time there to get all the basics right. A lack of CL experience may count against him though.

I wonder who these people think would be able to replace Moyes?
Sure we might be able to get Jose in?? haha

Folks, when Moyes goes, we will end up with someone like Dowie or Strachan. We will also have about 5 managers in 5 years!

I like the stability Moyes has brought to the club and that clearly everyone knows there role on the pitch.
I really believe were one or 2 players away from making a serious annual push for top 4.

Go through Moyes first ever Everton 11..think of what he has spent to get to where we are now! Some sensible heads required on this forum!

I just cannot believe people cannot wait to see the back of Moyes, without him were screwed!

Moyes is one of the few managers who is paid more than his players. Coupled with a loyal chairman and the ability to pay the better players circa £70k a week. We all know we can't spend £15m-20m every transfer window and even Moyes acknowledges that. But he does get the majority of what he brings in back

I always laugh when Kenwright is criticised for wanting a donor and not selling the club, when that is precisely what many of the same critics crave themselves. Someone who will throw their own money down a black hole for top players, build a ground, operate at a profit and keep season ticket prices stable.

Moyes has it good at Everton. If he goes fine, if he doesn't fine. However you will never convince me that the benefits of being Everton manager will not attract good quality candidates.

The mighty Swansea, Southampton, WBA have all brought in new managers and have excelled are you trying to tell me them teams are a better prospect than Everton.

It's déjà vu every season now climbs to the top 5/6, a cup run, transfer optimism dashed in the last minutes before it all just crumbles before us. A big change is needed at this Club.

Kenwright, Moyes, Elstone, Anichebe, Naismith, Heitinga and Neville should all be gone by the summer.

The only clubs in Britain that he might get offers from could be Celtic or Villa but I still don't believe he would leave for either, he's got it too easy here. I think the best thing to do would be to take a year or two out from the game and recharge the batteries.

I read a lot on here about Kenwright turning buyers away from the club but there's never been any hard evidence that anybody has ever been remotely interested in buying our great club mainly and unfortunately because will are not a big worldwide "brand" like our shyster neighbours from over the park. Also the blame for our financial situation lies fairly and squarely on the shoulders of the tosser that is Peter Johnson there was no debt before he arrived but we ended up on shit street when he left. Yes I know people will quote the embarrassments of kings dock and Kirkby and quite rightly but as I say the problems financially began with dj spuddles.

Now on to David Moyes yes he's done remarkably well with what he's been dealt with but and it's a big but he's been extremely close to a trophy on at least three occasions and failed miserably on each of them also his track record against so called big teams is quite appalling ,these are the factors that will count against him. Another thing that will count against ,more so at Chelsea I think than anywhere else,is his like for total control of all footballing matters,many foreign chairman are of the mindset that this is my club and you will put up with how I run it.

If David Moyes stays cool,if not I'll wish him all the best and wave him on his way. Everton was he before and will survive after Moyes ,who may just be shocked at the calibre or lack of clubs that may or may not bang his door down. But please don't keep laying all the blame at Kenwrights door for this situation.

He's won nothing. We are his pinnacle, if he can't do it here then he's got no chance anywhere else.

All those saying what will happen when he goes, we'll get a new manager and we'll move on.

He's got a far better chance of winning something at our wonderful club where he gets all the backing he wants.

Ten years he's had and when have we ever looked like being winners in any of the big games we've played in?

He would not get his foot through the door in the first place but if he did then he would not last 6 months at Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd. Arsenal might have him but only if the forgot the Wenger years and revert to the '1 - 0 nil to the Arsenal' days.

I do agree Moyes has brought stability to the club in the football sense but we've reached the ceiling. Moyes cannot take us any further and for that reason we need a change.

Michael, I'm not opposed to a new manager at all, but I do think whoever comes in will do well to keep us in the top 7 as Moyes has done if he receives similarly poor financial backing.

Sam, I agree the risk of new manager coming in could see us drop down the league whilst he seeks to impose his own brand of football. However, if he is given ten years then we could expect him to do better than Moyes has.

Moyes has had money and our wages are high, I think and hope a new man could do better with what we have.

Have to admit that it would not be hard for a new manager to improve on Moyes's pretty woeful cup record.

Is that right Martin Handley?

Also, calling the Shite's owners "shysters", whilst praising Bill.....well you're off the irony scale there.

And yes the club was on a solid footing before Johnson arrived that is why I place the blame at his door as do most people, yes Kenwright can be a fool,misguided and liberal/economic with the truth at times but please don't think I blame him for everything that is wrong at Everton as it seems a lot people including you do.

You can't seriously tell me that you would prefer Johnson to still be in charge would you?

How much debt were we in when Johnson went? and how much now?

1. 1-2 on failed ground moves
2. 1-0 on actually putting own money into the club
3. Sold ferguson vs sold sky money, sold season ticket loan, sold belle field, sold Rooney
4. Your assets on running around the pitch vs your assets are running around the pitch and we're losing £10m a season, bobby go and get the net.