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Paul McAllister 123Posted
16/06/2013 at
16:05:33
It looks like something out of a Turkish market. Proper knock off looking which makes it even worse if it's real. A shit kit for to suit a shit badge. Please have some self-dignity and boycott.
Al Philby 124Posted
16/06/2013 at
16:07:08
It has to be it. Nice, by the way.
Paul Gladwell 126Posted
16/06/2013 at
16:08:47
And there was me thinking we would get some cracking kits with Nike, if that's it it's garbage.
Ross Edwards 127Posted
16/06/2013 at
16:09:35
Oh, God above that is horrible, and with that abomination of a crest on it it looks even worse. I suppose it cost about £3.50 to make it, because it looks like it. Horrible, cheap, amateurish, it reflects Bill and his circus of liars really doesn't it?
Joe Hurst 132Posted
16/06/2013 at
16:15:14
They look crudely 'shop'-ed. The colour mismatch around the godawful new crest makes me, as Elvis might say, a bit suspiscious..
Kevin Day 133Posted
16/06/2013 at
16:18:32
Absolutely fucking awful!!!! What is going on, it looks like a rugby top from the 80's
Mark Dutton 135Posted
16/06/2013 at
16:20:21
Portsmouth against QPR reserves - atrocious !
Jackie Barry 136Posted
16/06/2013 at
16:21:12
Vile, just reinforces my decision not to buy one.
Phil Sammon 138Posted
16/06/2013 at
16:24:36
That is absolutely terrible. I sincerely hope that's a fake.
Al Philby 144Posted
16/06/2013 at
16:30:59
Joe, the colour mismatch is caused by the high ISO and flashgun in conjunction. It doesn't look photoshopped to me. People should keep in mind the poor quality of the photos. A decent kit if you ask me.
Alasdair Mackay 146Posted
16/06/2013 at
16:35:02
There was one a couple of weeks ago that was doing the rounds. That one was lovely - and a nice away kit - this one is horrible.
Really hope that it's fake!
Paul Gladwell 147Posted
16/06/2013 at
16:36:55
Don't think this is fake, there is another photo of it on hangers in a changing room, very similar to the leaked photos last year of the latest kit.
Andy Whittingham 148Posted
16/06/2013 at
16:38:01
If Everton were a rugby club it might suffice - but we're not..
Ray Roche 149Posted
16/06/2013 at
16:43:22
After seeing the new Nike England kit I hoped ours would be similar to that. Like the badge, shite.
James Morgan 150Posted
16/06/2013 at
16:46:09
So basically Nike have just added and extra white band and a collar? Not very imaginative.
Gerry Quinn 153Posted
16/06/2013 at
16:48:41
Anyone else think the badge looks great on the new shirt? If it is the Audi of football kits, it could be advertised as being - Voorsprung durch schiesenhausen!
Spencer Ramsay 154Posted
16/06/2013 at
16:49:22
Bloody awful but gd in a way as wldnt have bought it due to badge so thats a relief for me. The other H & A kit also leaked recently were far superior!
Mick Doherty 155Posted
16/06/2013 at
17:06:38
in a word... Horrendous
Frank Crewe 156Posted
16/06/2013 at
17:03:20
A right bunch of Gok One's on here. It's just a footy kit not high fashion. As long as it's a different colour from the shirts the other team is wearing what difference does it make? Like to look our best when we go to the footy these days don't we. Maybe we should be worrying more about the quality of the players who are going to be wearing it and less about what sort of fashion statement it's making.
Phil Martin 159Posted
16/06/2013 at
17:13:31
1990s Rugby Union shirt.... I think this is real. Isn't the background the standard Goodison changing rooms background? At least that badge hasn't spoilt a good shirt.
Eugene Ruane 160Posted
16/06/2013 at
17:17:34
Frank Crewe - "A right bunch of Gok One's on here. It's just a footy kit not high fashion. As long as it's a different colour from the shirts the other team is wearing what difference does it make?"
It's not JUST anything.
It's part of something much bigger.
It's a shite shirt.
It's got a shite badge on it.
It was chosen by a shite board.
Headed by a shite chairman who talks shite and employs shite.
Like our shite marketing people.
And all this takes place in a ground that's in a shite state.
It is, to give it a name 'creeping shiteism'.
So have a guess what I think you're talking?
Mick Doherty 163Posted
16/06/2013 at
17:24:33
I wouldn't agree Frank, it can have subtle psychological effects, looking sharp can boost your confidence whilst looking like a clown can cause a sense of inferiority, check out this article on the role of colour in sport... seems to suggest poxy red is the colour of winners
How hard can it be for Everton (aka The People's Club) to work with a supporter type steering group when it comes to such issues. The goal being to get some general consensus across the spectrum from a variety of fanbases.
Everton is and has been for far too long, run by a shower of Dickheads and stuck in the dark ages. Change at a senior level is needed ASAP!
Michael Kenrick 173Posted
16/06/2013 at
17:50:41
James (#169), the sad irony is, they think they did that already — the much-vaunted Fans Forum.
Paul Johnson 175Posted
16/06/2013 at
17:52:59
Won't be making me lad wear that one for training.
Frank what you have to realise is that we need to become more competitive in the market place and increase our sales revenue. Now I know that the kitbag deal has squarely fucked us but I have to be honest it is fucking awful.
Ray Roche 177Posted
16/06/2013 at
17:56:31
James, didn't the Board consult us fans ...a supporter type steering group....when the new badge was chosen?
Declan Burke 178Posted
16/06/2013 at
17:43:02
I thought that after "badge gate" it wasn't possible for the marketing department to mess again in the same preseason. If these photos are real, the people responsible should be sacked. Or better still, Moyes might take them to manure. Utter crap badge and shirt. Nike must have no respect for themselves or more importantly Everton FC.
Ken Finch 179Posted
16/06/2013 at
17:59:46
I like the colour; hate the sleeves and won't comment on the badge! Overall, crap.
Steve Pugh 181Posted
16/06/2013 at
18:02:42
I could be we wrong but didn't we pay Nike to take over our kit design? (or did we just get a lot less than everyone else?) Anyway I didn't like the first one and I hate this one.
Bring back Puma.
Ian Bennett 183Posted
16/06/2013 at
18:11:38
One word, wow.
Karl Jones 191Posted
16/06/2013 at
18:26:47
What is the matter with our club? Doesn't anyone who makes the major decisions have any taste?
James Byrne 194Posted
16/06/2013 at
18:22:29
(@ MK-173 & RR-177)
As the proud owner of 3 x season tickets for donkey years no one from Everton FC have ever asked for my opinion on badge design or anything Everton! I would have thought that I'd be a healthy choice for providing some type of feedback to the club.
I don't honestly know what fanbases were contacted or consulted - all I know is that I've not been contacted by the club on anything other than when by ST's are due for renewal!
Going by the level of interactive media / digital resources on offer in this day and age you'd think reaching out to fans all over the world would be easy to do?
John Daley 196Posted
16/06/2013 at
18:39:17
If your kids are into the Avengers then buy them the long sleeved version, team it with a pair of red gloves & a rubber gimp mask and, hey presto, a more meffy version of Captain America.
Phil Sammon 199Posted
16/06/2013 at
18:39:19
The club's version of consulting the fans comes in the form of the Fan's Forum. The problem is, they don't ever dare to speak out against the club. These select individuals are in the cushy position of being invited to some nice events and get closer to the club than many of the rest of us. Why would they rock the boat by saying that [insert any EFC decision] was a fucking stupid idea presided over by mentally deficient arse biscuits?
The thing that really pains me is that in this age of technology, is it really so hard to gauge fans' opinions?
Simon Templeman 201Posted
16/06/2013 at
18:47:50
Why would anyone imagine Nike would improve our kits? Bottom line is their only concern. That crap new badge will have shaved a few pence off the cost of making our shirt for their bean counters.
James Byrne 202Posted
16/06/2013 at
18:47:35
Thanks Phil @199.............
I wasn't aware of the Fans Forum bit - I guess the recent performance on the badge design and their involvement renders the forum useless and without any relevance or credibility.
In a nutshell another shower of arse licking idiots! The worlds' full of them........
Colin Grierson 203Posted
16/06/2013 at
18:44:29
Ian 183,
Is that a Gordon Ramsay 'wow'?
Ramsay's Kitbag nightmares!
Michael Kenrick 205Posted
16/06/2013 at
18:49:51
You raise a great point, James (#194). But it reflects a brand marketing mindset at the higher levels within the club hierarchy that that runs directly counter to the interests of the fans — especially fans who go online to discuss issues the club want kept secret until they can choreograph the great 'reveal' (eg, Badge, Manager, Shirt). The reaction of Paul Tyrrell after the horrendous badge design was leaked saw him reaching for the phone to call the lawyers so someone could be sued for daring to breach their non-disclosure agreement. Such is the lack of open honesty and transparency at this club of ours. I hope that it left him... just as I hoped forlornly that it departed with that other snake, Ian Ross.
James Byrne 207Posted
16/06/2013 at
19:01:35
Totally agree Michael (#205)......
Just so I didn't sound like a smart alec in my recent post (#194), I think anyone who commits and spends (hard earned) money on a season ticket should be considered a worthy candidate for providing regular feedback to the club - whether you have one or twenty season tickets it shouldn't matter.
If I had +/- 20,000 people subscribing in my business they'd be the first people I'd be asking how I go about improving my product / model etc.
Paul Washington 209Posted
16/06/2013 at
19:13:17
Please no, this is a jersey from Blue Circle leagues or whatever they are called... why not a simple white round collar on a royal blue top?
Ian Bennett 210Posted
16/06/2013 at
19:14:56
Colin - I don't think I can find any other words.
Ian Bennett 211Posted
16/06/2013 at
19:14:56
Colin - Yep, I don't think I can find any other words.
Mike Hughes 212Posted
16/06/2013 at
19:14:16
Well, from the perspective of consistency, the new shirt suits the badge.
On the positive side, at least there's a white collar.
Let's get the white socks back.
Since when have we had stripes? Unless these were samples left on the pitch to be photographed and the bloke who paints the lines got there first.
Seriously, they have to actually be trying to screw up to get things so horrendously wrong time after time.
Mike Green 216Posted
16/06/2013 at
19:24:07
Double hoops look a bit suspect on the short sleeved version, on the long sleeve version they look plain nasty.
Peter May 217Posted
16/06/2013 at
19:16:42
Eugene #160 Everyone here has the right to air their opions, including yourself. If the majority of people are making a comment to show their displeasure of a shit looking shirt with a shite looking badge on it, well so be it, deal with it.
The bigger issue is that the revenue for replica kit sales looks like it will take a hit judging by all the adverse comments here and elswhere. Like we really need another drain on revenue.
Hopefully a new badge and kit will be on sale next season for our full Champions League debut. :-)
Ian Bennett 219Posted
16/06/2013 at
19:29:46
The club have got to learn from this and the badge debacle. They have to get the customer involved as James suggests. A short list of 5 designs. I guess this makes no difference to our income as we have a fixed contract with kit bag?
Phil Sammon 220Posted
16/06/2013 at
19:34:24
Peter
We wouldn't get any more or less money if we sold 1 shirt or 1 million - such is the wonderful deal we have in place with KitShag
Eugene Ruane 224Posted
16/06/2013 at
19:42:39
Peter May (217) - "Eugene #160 - Everyone here has the right to air their opions, including yourself. If the majority of people are making a comment to show their displeasure of a shit looking shirt with a shite looking badge on it, well so be it, deal with it. The bigger issue is that the revenue for replica kit sales looks like it will take a hit judging by all the adverse comments here and elswhere. Like we really need another drain on revenue. Hopefully a new badge and kit will be on sale next season for our full Champions League debut. :-)"
'Deal with it'?
Erm...ok, I agree with every word you wrote (how is THAT for dealing with it!)
Sorry, I'm a little confused - if we're disagreeing, could you point out which bit we're disagreeing on coz I can't find it
Having looked at my post and then at your post, they both seem to be saying the same thing..don't they?
I'm a more than a little confused.
John Citrine 226Posted
16/06/2013 at
20:02:15
Just when you thought our board's decision-making couldn't get any worse....
Ged Alexander 227Posted
16/06/2013 at
20:06:27
Eugene, get out more.
Al Philby 230Posted
16/06/2013 at
20:07:57
We have had some less than pretty kits over the years, but this one is certainly not one of them.
2000-02, 2003-04, and 2009-10 were all pretty bad.
The kits must be worn before they can be judged. And the grainy images we have seen thus far are not of much help either.
Ged Alexander 233Posted
16/06/2013 at
20:20:00
Nice link, Al. Is there anything wrong with the 1907 kit? Lovely. Not quite so sure about salmon pink...
James Martin 238Posted
16/06/2013 at
19:41:06
Kit manufacturers will never be able to win. When we had the all blue one a few years back people were calling for ingenuity, kits that were different to the standard ones out there. As soon as they do a kit that's a bit different people want a classic one. It's certainly not the worst Everton kit in recent times.
Eugene Ruane 239Posted
16/06/2013 at
20:18:05
Ged (227) - "Eugene, get out more"
People say that but I don't really believe they think it through.
Inside there's coffee, ciggies, telly, youtube (with full Bilko episodes), the sofa, the bath and my bed.
What's outside that so good?
Bees, pollen, dog-shite, traffic and fatties in shorts.
I should be telling you – "Ged, stay in more!"
Ged Alexander 242Posted
16/06/2013 at
20:29:50
To be fair, Eugene., that made me laugh. Especially as I am in watching flipping Marple on the telly!
James Martin 243Posted
16/06/2013 at
20:26:27
Looking at some of the old kits its interesting that the white socks didn't come until later. Some of the kits with black trim on the socks or shorts actually look really good. Don't think we've had a really good kit since the Danka one aorund 1997. Perhaps 07/08 was alright but the rest have been very bland.
Noel Early 245Posted
16/06/2013 at
20:28:02
And I had a good laugh at Liverpool's 3rd kit. I always set myself up for a fall; that looks horrendous especially the long sleeve kit. Another marketing masterclass from the club if this is the new kit.
It's funny how these things always get leaked on the net; if we moan enough maybe they will listen to us again.
Phil Rodgers 248Posted
16/06/2013 at
20:46:49
That's not the shirt. It can't be, can it?
Phil Rodgers 249Posted
16/06/2013 at
20:47:51
By the way Eugene I'm gonna stuck up for you here.
I can't understand what you have done wrong to deserve such abuse!
John Brennan 250Posted
16/06/2013 at
20:50:33
Did anybody notice (in other words, were they as smart as I was), that Fellaini only ever wore the long sleeved shirt last season?
That's the only one I bought, because I'm a dedicated follower of fashion.
Eugene Ruane 265Posted
16/06/2013 at
21:15:57
Phil Rodgers (249) - "I can't understand what you have done wrong to deserve such abuse!"
Forget the abuse, the abuse is fine, I wear abuse like a comfy old jumper, I find a warmth in abuse, an odd sort of comfort. Abuse is my middle name (well it's James but..you get my drift).
What I don't understand is when it comes from someone who agrees with me.
As Shylock Holmes said to Romeo in Hamlet (part V) 'Ye are twistin me melon Yorrik ye dafteth twat'
Harold Matthews 267Posted
16/06/2013 at
21:23:19
The college sleeves must be aimed at the yankee market.
Dixie Dean never wore a shirt that dark.
Steavey Buckley 274Posted
16/06/2013 at
22:08:09
It would have been more interesting to have the new shirt with an unshaven bloke dressed in a vest with a pint glass in his hand with these words across the new shirt: "Mine's a Chang for a change."
Ryan Sloan 279Posted
16/06/2013 at
22:48:26
I can't believe anyone can like this kit, but whatever floats your boat.
I wasn't a fan of last seasons but it was better than this horrendous effort.
Spragg Johnson 287Posted
16/06/2013 at
23:35:59
Its not brilliant but I can't see what the problem is ... It's a mainly royal blue kit with some white in it ... There's only so much you can do and yet still be a bit different every year. The badge will change next season and so will the kit. This reminds me of the 1994 one we had - seems every kit has a retro link now. Black with a salmon diagonal will be an away option soon I'm sure. Worry about what's inside these shirts ... Not the surface appearances. Marketing is marketing, designers are designers ... Get over it. I'm sure if a series of options went to committee or fan vote we could end up with something worse ... At least it's not as embarrassing as the Liverpool away kits (or am I speaking too soon - our away kits could be awful).
James McCall 291Posted
16/06/2013 at
23:36:30
Fake-original? I have no idea... especially after the badge fiasco. But it wouldn't surprise me if it is real and doesn't surprise me being Nike. Look at last season's thick white bands, which made the shirt look stupid... So now what? — let's put two on each side and, as long as the shirt's blue and white, it doesn't matter.
What next? — a checkered shirt like Croatia but blue and white? Or maybe blue with white spots... Whoever thought that, just because Nike came along, we would get a quality shirt, then you're as deluded as Kenwright. Plenty of time left for more poor decisions and we will all be feeling like Eugene.
Al, it looks like you're the only one who likes it; sorry, pal, but it looks like a rugby shirt and looks shite — and at least I can say I'm not buying one for more than just the badge!
Patrick Murphy 293Posted
17/06/2013 at
00:18:07
The shirt looks more like it should be worn by Leicester City rather than Everton, I don't buy shirts but I really don't like this one if it is genuine. Blue shirt white cuffs and collar — keep it simple.
Spragg Johnson 296Posted
17/06/2013 at
00:56:40
Ermm ... Patrick ... I think you'll find it IS a blue shirt with white cuffs and collar!
Si Cooper 297Posted
17/06/2013 at
00:35:07
Apart from the gopping badge; I've seen better but I've also seen worse.
This is obviously 'Nike budget kit evolution 101': Break-up the unpopular extra wide cuff by inserting a band of the primary shirt colour, and then use that motif as detailing on the long sleeved version.
My opinion may not count for much as I might be the only person who actually liked the salmon pink shirt from a decade ago!
Kristian Boyce 298Posted
17/06/2013 at
01:21:18
Just a thought: maybe with the new badge debacle, Nike probably thought that they could put out any old piece of crap as no one was going to buy the shirts anyways.
James Stewart 299Posted
17/06/2013 at
01:28:52
Rank.
No way would I purchase that let alone wear it.
Steve Jones 300Posted
17/06/2013 at
01:19:11
Well, for one, I'm made up with it.
Solves a minor dilemma I was facing...that being that the last 'leaked' shirts from a couple of weeks back, with the Nil Satis on the collar, I really liked.
...but they had that bastard playskool badge on and I'd sworn not to buy it for myself or the kids...which wound me up no end. Finally a really good looking shirt....and I cant buy the damned thing!.
This pile of crap, adorned with the insignia of playskool, is just so much easier to boycott. Problem solved...thanks to tinpot Nike and the equally tinpot club marketing setup.
Derek Knox 301Posted
17/06/2013 at
02:13:43
Not to keen on the shirt or the badge! Quite like the hangers... anyone know where I can get one? (Minus the shirt!)
Alan Ross 307Posted
17/06/2013 at
02:35:35
I would be very surprised if this is the real thing. If you look closely at the badge on each shirt they are are an exact copy in pixel terms, ie, drag and drop. There would have been some differences if this was a real photo.
Lakovos Lasonidis 319Posted
17/06/2013 at
09:41:30
Not good this one. I would love for once a kit with blue and white stripes and a collar, it would be something different but in the same time Historically Accurate. The 2011 shirt was top though...
Mike Rourke 327Posted
17/06/2013 at
10:48:29
We are not a Nike elite team and will get their bog standard design.
Last season we got a blue version of the FC Twente shirt. Check out Mr Fer with his massive white armbands http://www.spitsnieuws.nl/archives/sport/2013/01/leroy-fer-naar-everton
I'll bet you anything that this season we get a blue version of the FC Twente shirt, which isn't actually a bad looking bit of kit http://shop.fctwente.nl/
And with any luck Leroy will be modelling the blue version this year.
Michael Parrington 328Posted
17/06/2013 at
10:52:28
Surely this is a someone's idea of a bad joke. I hope this isn't the shirt. It looks crap.
Surely it's going to be a royal blue and white version of the new Man U / Brasil shirt, which would look great.
James Morgan 330Posted
17/06/2013 at
11:11:17
What date does the kit normally come out? I bought the away top last year, I seem to recall that coming out first.
Tony Farrell 331Posted
17/06/2013 at
11:08:55
I certainly hope this is not the real deal! I live in Australia and I was home in May, managed to get to the club shop at the ground. I was welcomed by one member of staff who was helpful but as always there were limited sizes in everything!!! I did ask about the new kit and was told it will be out in July with a whole new training range! I was quite excited but now this... Well what a fucking disgrace! The new badge — now this!
I really don't know who or what runs our beloved EFC! I'm in business but EFC need to sack everyone who has been involved in this abomination! Badge and all... Fucking disgusting, this shirt would never fetch any money on eBay in 30 years time. Fucking atrocious, Everton!!!
Graham Tansey 333Posted
17/06/2013 at
11:31:13
This is not one of the Nike template designs which we are supposed to choose from so it is more than likely fake.
Drew Shortis 334Posted
17/06/2013 at
11:38:38
Looks good to me. We have had worse designs over the past few years. Remember the one with blue and white tiger stripes under the arms (I own that one, yuk!) and the grim yellow collar effort from last season! It is spoiled a little by the dodgy badge, but not a bad effort in my opinion. I might just buy the long sleeve one this season.
Bren Connor 341Posted
17/06/2013 at
14:37:28
final score: Badge 0-0 Kit
Trevor Thompson 349Posted
17/06/2013 at
15:15:56
Reminds me of the 93-94 kit and the fact we have a new manager that likes to play attacking football like Mike Walker - The signs aren't looking good this season! Ha ha.
Craig Walker 357Posted
17/06/2013 at
15:23:21
Let's play 'New kit bingo'. We wait for the kit to be launched and then tick off all of these phrases as they appear:- 1. "The best Everton kit in years" 2. "Traditional royal blue" but will probably be too light for most of us 3. "New lightweight, breathable, moisture dispensing, cutting edge fabric". Whatever terms they use, the material will probably have some technical sounding name but in actual fact will be made from the exact same stuff as last season's. 4. "Both players and fans will enjoy" 5. "Famous logo" 6. "Really proud of our associations with " 7. Some crappy quotes about looking forward to wearing the shirt. Often from Phil Neville but likely to be from Phil Jagielka from now on. 8. I'll probably purchase it irrespective of how shite it looks
Craig Walker 359Posted
17/06/2013 at
15:32:36
5. "Famous [insert kit manufacturer's name] logo" 6. "Really proud of our associations with [insert kit manufacturer's name]"
Terry Torode 372Posted
17/06/2013 at
16:28:04
Sorry but this kit and this badge is rubbish ( being Kind ) I buy a lot of EFC stuff in a season but wont buy anything with that badge on. It is a total disgrace to the old and bold ex Everton players and tradition.
Ged Simpson 385Posted
17/06/2013 at
18:14:24
If we play well in it I don't give a damn.
How shallow I am !
Lenny Kingman 390Posted
17/06/2013 at
18:24:25
White is for the shorts. Blue for the shirts. Awful. Not as bad as the 80's half and half shirts but like someone said. If you get results who cares.
Karl Masters 402Posted
17/06/2013 at
19:22:15
White socks are coming back....
Karl Masters 405Posted
17/06/2013 at
19:30:52
'Training kit' picture looks more like a 3rd kit or possibly the away kit, to me.
Paul Grainger 456Posted
17/06/2013 at
21:48:51
Just a thought but in that the second picture there is a Premier League badge on the sleeve. Would training kits bother to have this? More like an actual away kit with the home kit in the background.
http://www.tacklebag.co.uk/downloadables/FB1314%20UK%202112.pdf This shows all the nike teamwear for the next season so it will probably be one of those designs.
Tamhas Woods 523Posted
18/06/2013 at
09:48:36
YES!!! Please please let this be the real kit!
Reminds me of dogs of war and Kanchelskis doing the RS at their place
If only that stupid effing badge wasn't on the kit!
Trevor Thompson 533Posted
18/06/2013 at
10:50:08
I can't remember, but I'm sure that "training kit" had been around the net for months. Awful kit but in fairness I haven't seen many decent kits from other clubs this season. The designers seem to be having a creative breakdown.
Shaun Brennan 539Posted
18/06/2013 at
11:49:23
If these photos prove true, then is someone seriously taking the mick at Everton?
Trevor Thompson 630Posted
23/06/2013 at
09:16:34
Looks like it's going to be our kit for next season:
Dean Barbella 137Posted
25/06/2013 at
05:35:33
This is horrible. I expected Nike to modernize a classic brand. Instead, they a succeeding at making us look older and slower with double banded strips on the sleeve and button up collar. Looks more like a Ralph Lauren Rugby Shirt, or American Football Jersey... anything, but a worthy kit. In short, this Fucking Sucks!!!
Keith Edwards 741Posted
27/06/2013 at
09:22:32
I can't believe some fella gets paid a huge amount of money to design kits and all he can come up with is an extra band around the sleeve and to add a collar, very imaginative. (Many apologies if it was a lady who designed it.)
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123 Posted 16/06/2013 at 16:05:33