£50M Fellaini deal too rich for Arsenal

If he goes then ok we will get a good price, but I'd like to think of Everton as more than a feeder club.

I hope so mate. I'd settle for sorting the other lot out in the derby though and higher finish than them.

Perhaps because it feels inevitable that he will at some point so I would rather get it over and done with. Or perhaps it's because i'm curious to see what Roberto could do with 25m. No Boselli's please!

Guess it will come down to how much he really wants CL football or if he's jusst after the cash (not as if 75ka week is a pittance!).

Arteta was willing to take a 5k a week cut to go to the Arse - I expect that Fellaini will go too but Arsenal wont pay 100k in wages for him.

Either way, I cannot see him here next season so hope the deal is done sooner than later - with whoever it may be. (At least if sooner we get his wages off our wage bill and save a couple of hundered grand!)

stop beating about the fucking bush!!!!! when you activate his get out of jail fee the other big boys will step in anyway so for God's sake make your mind up, I don't want another month of will they wont they changing every day.

Mark, If we're going to come anywhere near the top 4, beating the unmentionables will help, they're one of our main competitors?

Also it would be massively good for moral amongst the troops!

Any prospective buyer just needs to sit back, wait for the ructions to start because we haven't signed anyone, then make an offer of less than £24 million, probably around £18-20 million.

Our financial state is common knowledge in football, prospective buyers know we will not buy any significant players until we sell.

Who will blink first? My money's on Kenwright.

Robert- if beating the RS is what you see as a successful season, then that's okay by me, but I have higher aspirations for my beloved club.

Mark, if we finish above the unmentionables that will probably mean we're in 5th or above next season, that to me is a successful 1st season under RM.

And for your info, I will always want to stuff them in a derby (as they do us), I don't know any blue other than yourself who is content with a negative result against them.

(341) I don't know any blue other than yourself who is content with a negative result against them.

There is not a single word om Mark Frere (279) to justify this sad and silly slur.

Unless, that is to say, I have missed something subtle. Perhaps Robert, you might produce the exact words/wording in Mark's post that made you feel the need to spout this (I think) utter fantasy gibberish?

These misrepresentations/distortions/flat falsehoods pop up over and over again and, usually, when challenged, the perpetrator - in this case Mr. Robert Collins - do not appear on here to justify what they said.

So, Robert ....... ?

Don't get all this talk about Top 4. Has no-one noticed the host of star players being mopped up by our richer rivals?
Who are we getting? David Blane and Dynamo???

£100k per week on a 5 year contract is hardly greedy when you consider what other pkayers earn... yes it's an astronomical sum, but put into the context of his peers it is not. Man City's Yaya Toure earns 2.5 times that amount, and has done for two years odd.

Whether I think it's right is a very different question. But it's naive to think he's greedy.

"this sad and silly slur" .............. "utter fantasy gibberish?" ........ "These misrepresentations/distortions/flat falsehoods" ....... " the perpetrator - in this case Mr. Robert Collins"

When does the official litigation start?

Paul, any stranger looking at your above hyperbole, might think that I had accused Mark Frere of some terrible bestial crime such as chicken molestation or spending unaccountable time with sheep in the dead of night and then disappeared so as not to substantiate my allegations.

You Said:

"Unless, that is to say, I have missed something subtle."

Yes Paul, I think you missed the implicit meaning (between the lines) within Mark Frere's statement.

And I also believe you haven't absorbed my statements either.

My logic I believe is correct, LFC will probably improve on last season and if we finish ahead of them we might be in the top 4, even if we lose to Spurs/Arsenal?

Paul & Mark, I want to beat everyone we play, but I, like nearly all blues derive a special charge/pump/thrill when we sort them out ( especially at Anfield). I just can't understand "one of ours" who rates beating Spurs or WBA etc the same as beating the other lot.

If you read my post:(254) I clearly say " its nice to have the bragging rights" doesn't this comment suggest to you that I want a positive result in the derby match?

My original argument was to your post: (232) " I'd settle for sorting the other lot out in the derby though and higher finish than them." That suggested to me that you were satisfied with beating the RS and finishing above them in the league, unless iv'e grossly misunderstood your original statement?

Like Paul Ferry correctly says, don't spout utter fantasy about me!

I'll explain one last time.

LFC have had some seasons that are stinkers recently, but don't expect that to last for too long, they will pull it together (Rodgers is no mug).

We start afresh next season and to be honest I expect them to finish above us this time around. They're going to be atleast 6th this time and as I said before and still maintain if we finish above them next season we will probably be 5th or 4th. So my logic stands up.

Mark, can you see the logic, most bookies would agree with my logic?

When I said I'd settle for beating them in the derby and finishing above them, that would get us into Europe and if you check the odds being offered by the bookies they all favour LFC finishing above us.

The logic is simple to follow.

I would rather you accuse me of molesting chickens and shagging sheep, rather than accusing me of wanting us to lose against the RS

I didn't say LFC are as good or stronger than Man Utd, Man City etc?

I said I believe LFC will be good enough to finish at least 6th and thus, if we were to finish above them, we should really be in Europe and doing very well. Although I don't think it will happen, we're team-building now, just like them, but they're a year or two ahead.

"Robert — if beating the RS is what you see as a successful season, then that's okay by me, but I have higher aspirations for my beloved club."

I can't argue with the "but I have higher aspirations" part of your thinking (we both want to climb the league), I suppose you've just placed a different value on beating the other lot, but my thinking says it's become important for us recently to get back into winning ways against them. They are no longer world beaters, they're now at our level and competing with us for the same positions in the Prem.

Just watch morale go through the roof if we should sort them out next season; it will have a knock-on effect that will give us confidence; confident teams are usually winning teams. They are only worth 3 points to us, just like WBA, Norwich etc, in the cold light of day, but the overall effect is much greater and it is to them as well.

Don't believe a word of it when they lose to us and say they're fuck all or nothing special, they got lucky, it fucking depresses and lowers their morale. It's more important than ever since we're competing for the same league places. I promise you this will be their mindset this coming season.

Can we split the difference and say we both want to finish ahead of them, but maybe by different routes? And I'll take back the negative result comment?

To think the RS can cause us grief amongst each other, even in the closed season.

Come on Roberto sort them out.