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Blues outbid for Redmond

25/06/2013 | Comments (42)
Everton have had "an initial proposal" for Birmingham winger Nathan Redmond knocked back, according to the Daily Mail.

The report states that Swansea City have an offer of around £2.5m accepted by the Midlands club.

The same report suggests that Everton remain in the hunt for Vitesse Arnhem striker Wilfried Bony who is also wanted by Newcastle United if speculation is to be believed.

Original Source: Daily Mail  Rumour source ranking:
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Jon Ferguson
290 Posted 25/06/2013 at 21:20:36
Surely we can stretch to the £2.5 million?
Ross Edwards
294 Posted 25/06/2013 at 21:22:10
I hope we can now focus on Bony. He is a powerful, physical,just like Drogba, and he scored 31 goals last season. I take it Arsenal will chicken out over Felli.

The only clubs that can offer his demands are maybe Anzhi, Zenit, Monaco, PSG and Madrid.

The more we raise the price, the more players we can get for his fee.

Alan Humphreys
295 Posted 25/06/2013 at 21:22:42
£2.5m for a young English U21 international, who's fast and direct. Appreciate its the Daily Mail but if we can't match Swansea's bid for a promising player then there's no hope for us.
John Gee
297 Posted 25/06/2013 at 21:23:13
It's reported elsewhere that the rejected offer was made by Fulham.

Mark Frere
298 Posted 25/06/2013 at 21:25:59
I've looked on Bony's Wikipedia page and it says he's been sold to a EPL club for £8 million.

Ross – I don't think we can raise Fellaini's price because, once Fellaini's buyout clause has been met, he's free to go.

Ross Edwards
302 Posted 25/06/2013 at 21:33:40
Bony will be perfect for us Mark in every way, he's quick, physical and scores goals. In my heart, Jela should deserve a second chance, but my head tells me that he is not physical or good enough for the PL. Bony will provide that for us.

I hope that Monaco, PSG or Anzhi or Zenit bid for him as they will pay him massive money.

Mark Frere
308 Posted 25/06/2013 at 21:40:48
Bony certainly looks the part Ross, he's one I hadn't heard anything about before you mentioned him the other day. That's 2 names you've mentioned now which have ended up in the rumour mill, your on a roll Ross!

I really hope Fellaini is sold soon, so RM can start making his full shopping list.

Remond sound like a steal at £2.5 million and I can't believe we can't out bid Swansea for his services

Ross Edwards
309 Posted 25/06/2013 at 21:50:51
Maybe I should be Director of Football Mark!
Phil Sammon
310 Posted 25/06/2013 at 21:54:15
I would accept keeping Felli and signing Redmond plus a striker.

I like Felli, but if we do keep him then he has to sign a contract. He obviously wont do this...but otherwise we're giong to get into anther Pienaar situation.

Colin Glassar
315 Posted 25/06/2013 at 22:14:38
I still think Fellaini will go but if he doesn't he will have egg all over his face, especially after talking to dumb blondes. Redmond would be a good signing but for no more than 3m.
Michael Brooks
320 Posted 25/06/2013 at 22:30:21
I don’t know how clear I can be, there is NO MONEY!!!!!!!!!!
Ross Edwards
322 Posted 25/06/2013 at 22:34:20
I don't know how clear we all can be Michael, BUT WHEN FELLAINI GOES THERE WILL BE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mick Doherty
324 Posted 25/06/2013 at 22:26:01
Bony, 31 goals in 30 games last season..... mmmm very tasty
Colin Glassar
326 Posted 25/06/2013 at 22:40:43
Money or no money, we need to buy someone.
Dick Fearon
327 Posted 25/06/2013 at 22:35:14
The views of some Twebbers leads me to think a chorus of 'We all live in a Blue and White submarine' would not be out of place.
Simon Templeman
328 Posted 25/06/2013 at 22:40:40
We cannot raise the fee we receive Ross, if the reports of a release fee are to be believed. The bidding war then benefits the player/agent with an increased signing on fee.
Denis Richardson
329 Posted 25/06/2013 at 22:34:24
Michael 320 – you're forgetting that we will get at least £20 million pounds in extra TV money next season.

There is money, its just not in our bank account yet. We can presumably take a short term loan for a few months if we wanted to buy anyone, or simply defer paying the transfer fee for a few months – most transfer fees are not paid all up front anyway. Only question is how much of the money BK is going to give RM.

Also with Moyes, Mucha, Hitzlsperger and Neville already gone, we've already freed up a big wadge in the wage bill come 1st July (RM is on no where near the money that DM was on) – guessing around £150k a week.

Don't expect any signings until July...

Ross Edwards
331 Posted 25/06/2013 at 22:47:21
What do you mean Dick?
Ian Glassey
332 Posted 25/06/2013 at 22:42:54
When will Roberto get the cash that Bill said was there, or was Bill telling porkies.

Surely not...

Mark Frere
333 Posted 25/06/2013 at 22:46:06
New SKY deal and modest amount of money left over from January Michael, we should have some transfer activity in some way,shape or form.

Michael, be a pessimist, some of us dare to dream of better times you know

Graham Crilly
334 Posted 25/06/2013 at 22:50:23
Let's be honest, hardly anyone has watched this Redmond more than once and people are screaming for Martinez to sign him. This lad has been around for a couple of years now but nobody has moved for him so I can't see him being that good.

McGeady would be a good buy for £4m, he has looked good and I have actually seen him play!

Michael Brooks
335 Posted 25/06/2013 at 22:58:57
Please remember we are dealing with old bullshit bill, I am sure you remember all the lies! Do I have to remind you of “watch this space!”

Bill will take the sky money and pay off loans, so he can stay in control!

Michael Brooks
336 Posted 25/06/2013 at 23:02:50
I am not a pessimist, I am a realist! I do so want to be wrong!!! Come on, Bill, prove me wrong!
Mark Frere
338 Posted 25/06/2013 at 23:05:09
I don't think even BK would make no funds whatsoever available, it would risk BK looking like Satan himself and Peter Johnson looking like god, maybe i'm wrong.
Chris Bentham
352 Posted 25/06/2013 at 23:56:23
Come on lets not get silly we all know it's a waiting game... Martinez is not gonna play his best cards until he knows what he can spend.

Let's say it's £10m now. We buy a striker and a winger for £5m each and a defender for free.

Now let's say Fellaini goes, so he has £33m... eg, a midfielder for £10m, free defender, thus £23m for striker and winger.

Best thing that can happen is Felli goes soon. That's not in our hands though, is it, so let's not resort to type and blame Bill, eh!!! surely we are more mature than that.

Sam Hoare
363 Posted 26/06/2013 at 00:42:00
Chris is right. It's very difficult for Martinez to make any significant moves before the Fellaini issue is resolved as that will dramatically alter how much money we have to spend and also where we need to strengthen. The worst case scenario is another drawn out Lescott-esque saga.

On the subject of Redmond, from what I've seen it would be worth matching £2.5M but no more. Having said that, I would not expect him to replace either Pienaar or Mirallas but to be an impact player from the bench for next season at least.

Harold Matthews
366 Posted 25/06/2013 at 23:45:20
Martinez has a habit of signing players no-ones ever heard of so prepare for a few surprises.
He is looking to bring in disciplined footballers of good character who are willing to adhere to the Martinez principles.. To him, it is not about who can trap a ball, who can dribble, who can head, who can shoot etc...It's all about his belief in the way football should be played and who he can trust to do a job for him As an ex Wigan captain recently pointed out.(quote)."He is tremendously thorough. If he has to travel thousands of miles to get someone he will. Once he spots a player who will strengthen his team he's like a bloodhound on the trail of a fugitive."

So maybe he didn't fancy Redmond. The boy is a decent prospect but a starting position elsewhere is better than warming our bench. Good luck to him.

Personally, I am right behind Martinez in everything he does. His non-stop positive chat will drive me up the wall but I believe firmly in his football philosophy and hope BK and his mates find a way of supporting him.

Jackie Barry
374 Posted 26/06/2013 at 01:55:26
Whether Fellaini goes or not there will be some money, I can guarantee it.
Peter Thistle
382 Posted 26/06/2013 at 04:27:57
Liverpool sign 4 players with no fuss, Everton can't even afford £2.5 mill. Great init.
Peter Laverty
383 Posted 26/06/2013 at 04:46:56
So half the posters on here are furious that we cant find £2.5 million for a young English fast winger, and the other half seem to be hoping that we find around £10 million for a class striker who's wages we could never afford. Interesting.
Robin Cannon
384 Posted 26/06/2013 at 05:04:42
At this point we don't even know if we have the money or not. Our "initial proposal" was rejected. We don't know if that bid was made before Swansea's offer was subsequently accepted. Whether we have an amount of money we think he's worth. Whether we might return for an updated bid.
John Keating
385 Posted 26/06/2013 at 05:15:27

I admire your optimism regarding money to spend. I would suggest that, if Fellaini goes, Martinez will get around 50%, the other half will go to the usual places, ie, Banks and "other operating costs" – things that nobody knows anything about.

If Fellaini is sold sooner rather than later, then we will buy sooner rather than later. If he doesn't go, then we will only see someone come in after we receive the telly money unless the selling club take an IOU. Nothing will change whilst this lot are in charge.

I think our manager is still sunning himself in Brazil whilst the Shite from across the Park have already doled out over £20 mill on new signings. Puts it in perspective, doesn't it!

Eric Myles
387 Posted 26/06/2013 at 06:05:34
Denis #329 you're forgetting that we have annual losses of £20 mill that will swallow up that extra TV money.
Eric Myles
388 Posted 26/06/2013 at 06:07:53
Peter #382, look on the bright side mate. At least we're much better off now not being able to afford £2.5 mill than we were a couple of seasons ago when we couldn't afford £0.5 mill for that goalie.

The value of players we can't afford is at least getting better!

Jeremy Benson
390 Posted 26/06/2013 at 07:05:53
A few points;

1. It's the daily mail (enough said there...)

2. At no point does it say we couldn't afford him. It just says that someone else's higher bid has been accepted above our (possibly initial) bid. Pretty standard stuff.

3. There obviously will be some money of some sort available to buy. We will have gotten good money in the prize league table, there's the tv deal, we've offloaded some wages from the books. There always is something to spend, just not the huge piles that some hope for.

I know its popular to bash the club with some posters, but I think a few lines in the daily mail about some other club having a bid accepted for player that we might not even be particularly interested in is hardly ammunition to do so.

Chris Morris
391 Posted 26/06/2013 at 07:24:35
If he was any good then better teams would have signed him years ago. He's not a new kid on the block or a breakout star, he's an average Championship player that looks good on occasion. Not for me
Jamie Barlow
394 Posted 26/06/2013 at 07:30:50
Does anybody know how this works?

Does RM tell Bill to get a player he wants at any cost or does he tell Bill to offer so much as that's all he thinks the player is worth?

Sam Hoare
409 Posted 26/06/2013 at 09:05:48
Chris Morris, not sure I agree with that, he's only a 19 year old kid so hardly the finished product. He's a raw talent who could become the next Theo Walcott or Aaron Lennon or who might not quite cut it and end up back in the football leagues. I think at such a low price he's probably worth a shot but then equally I'm not sure how much playing time he could be guaranteed.
James Morgan
417 Posted 26/06/2013 at 09:15:20
The Brummie transfer guy on talk sport reckons he would be better served staying with Birmingham or going to a Norwich/Swansea.
Hopefully RM is eyeing up the talent over in Brazil, Honda for a small fee would be a good start. The shirt sales in Japan would pay the fee...if we weren't tied to the Shitbag deal!
Andrew Ellams
421 Posted 26/06/2013 at 09:50:04
Who says we can't afford him. Maybe a perceived value was set and we are not prepared to go above that. If that's the case then it sounds sensible to me.

If we have to push our price up for somebody like Honda I would rather see that than be pissed about by Birmingham for a nice to have player

Barry Lambert
546 Posted 26/06/2013 at 18:54:28
If we have lost out on Redmond for that sort of money then that is very disappointing. He is the real deal .In the not too distant future I guarantee we will look and think if only !
Geoff Freeman
727 Posted 27/06/2013 at 07:45:04
Maybe just maybe we haven't even put in a bid for him .I'll wait till Roberto starts work then I may believe the odd paper report.

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