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395 Posted 26/06/2013 at 07:27:55
402 Posted 26/06/2013 at 08:34:37
405 Posted 26/06/2013 at 08:47:50
I know Pienaar is good but his goal return is shocking
411 Posted 26/06/2013 at 09:10:33
413 Posted 26/06/2013 at 09:09:51
416 Posted 26/06/2013 at 09:36:24
419 Posted 26/06/2013 at 09:41:34
420 Posted 26/06/2013 at 09:47:05
I would like to see somebody similar to Miralles on the left who can run at defenders with pace and is able to go outside or come inside and go for goal
422 Posted 26/06/2013 at 09:58:17
423 Posted 26/06/2013 at 10:02:20
424 Posted 26/06/2013 at 10:03:34
426 Posted 26/06/2013 at 10:00:45
No chance unless RM has some Faustian pact with Mouth Almighty Whelan.
We can do better than that.
I was hoping our new manager would have a good European scouting network and tap in to a few bargain gems (given our financial state).
(Anyway, that's my summer break interrupted. I wasn't going to look at any of these rumour mill things. However, seeing as how the RS splashing the cash - hopefully on even more dross - is on every website and teletext page, I just thought it was about time we got some new faces in.)
445 Posted 26/06/2013 at 11:28:59
448 Posted 26/06/2013 at 12:00:32
454 Posted 26/06/2013 at 12:34:37
455 Posted 26/06/2013 at 12:46:07
Much as Honda would be good it could possibly be a barrier to Barkley getting more game time as well as I think they are similar box to box attacking central midfield players.
456 Posted 26/06/2013 at 12:53:37
Honda has a bit more drive and Barkley seems more about guile and picking the pass
457 Posted 26/06/2013 at 12:54:13
With Kone, same as everyone else really, too much money for someone his age. But keep him as a last resort, it will be better getting him than no striker.
458 Posted 26/06/2013 at 12:54:30
459 Posted 26/06/2013 at 12:58:09
Coleman, Jagielka, Distin, Baines
Barkley, Fer, Honda
Moses, Wilfried Bony, Mirallas
Fellaini sale 23m Pretty much covers the above transfers.
Assuming we have a transfer budget before Fellaini sale.
Bring in Moses and another CB.
Exciting team for next season.
461 Posted 26/06/2013 at 13:00:30
462 Posted 26/06/2013 at 13:09:08
464 Posted 26/06/2013 at 13:12:12
All the papers are linking Everton with him now. Proven player.
468 Posted 26/06/2013 at 13:22:38
Not sure we will be competing with Newcastle this time though, he ain't French
469 Posted 26/06/2013 at 13:21:46
Would like to see Barklay step up to the plate big style this year If RM gives him the chances that DM didn't. Even the lkes of Oveido may benefit.
470 Posted 26/06/2013 at 13:28:06
On the other hand i've just watched some Honda on Youtube and he does look pretty useful!
485 Posted 26/06/2013 at 14:52:54
Baines appears to play much further forward for England and if you watched his 2nd half performance against the Irish Republic he wasn't as effective with Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain playing in front of him, Chamberlain kept turning inside leaving Baines frustrated out wide. Baines was then caught too far forward and liable to be caught out in a counter attack. He's a much better player with Pienaar.
You could also argue that Jags is better in an England shirt, far less hoof ball than with us.
486 Posted 26/06/2013 at 15:09:39
Martinez very rarely seems to play a full backs and out-and-out wide midfielders as Moyes did with Baines/Pienaar and Coleman/Mirallas which could be the biggest change to team because, more often and not, that is how we won games last season.
490 Posted 26/06/2013 at 13:34:04
Swap Anichebe + cash, excellent shout mate and an excellent chance to offload him (he cost us nothing and is drain on our wage bill).
That's exactly what I thought, It's tough in the league below and muscle is appreciated more than brains, Anichebe will fit right in.
This is providing Coyle does an about turn, I'm concerned he likes his strikers with a bit of sophistication (remember he had Sturridge on loan from Chelski), big Vic may not suit his style?
514 Posted 26/06/2013 at 17:25:56
Because we haven't signed anyone, it means that we're skint.
Because we're linked with a player in the tabloids, it means that must be the player Martinez wants.
Because the RS have signed N players and we've signed none(in June), it means we're incompetent.
Because its reported in the national press that we got "outbid" for a player, it means:
a) We made a bid
b) we couldn't afford anything more.
I suspect that Martinez has £10-£20M to spend, due to the increased tv deal and players/staff who've left, freeing up cash on the balance sheet. I think he's just taking his time analysing who he has and who would improve the team. If we're not bidding £5M for a player, then its likely we don't want them.
Don't forget he's playing catch up compared to most managers, having walked into the club not so long ago.
516 Posted 26/06/2013 at 17:39:01
Yes, mate, it'll be interesting to see who comes in and who goes out, and what sort of line-up Martinez uses. Whether he'll continue with a 3-5-2 may well depend on transfers and if he thinks our present first 11 can adjust to his tactics. I don't know whether to be excited or full of trepidation....
533 Posted 26/06/2013 at 18:19:41
539 Posted 26/06/2013 at 18:37:34
Thats only 4 more than Jelavic, and vic's record was 6 in 26.
So he is hardly prolific. We need a striker who can score 15+ a season. I'd save my money and stick with vic and Jelavic (with velios as backup) if we can't afford a genuine out-and-out 15+ a season man.
540 Posted 26/06/2013 at 18:43:53
542 Posted 26/06/2013 at 17:38:08
It doesn't matter if it's Oxlade Chamberlain, Downing,Young, Milner or some other cowboy. He gives them the ball, flies up the wing but the return pass seldom comes. They have decided to cut inside.
Personally I blame the coach. As an ex Premiership manager he will have studied dossiers on Baines and I can only conclude that he must be pretty thick.
Heard a radio report this afternoon which made us sound quite busy in the transfer market. BK must be at it again.
I tend to agree with Sam. Our main deals will be quiet and swift.
Apparently it all kicks off when the holidays finish next week.
550 Posted 26/06/2013 at 19:01:25
558 Posted 26/06/2013 at 19:22:11
662 Posted 26/06/2013 at 22:43:47
675 Posted 26/06/2013 at 23:17:51
710 Posted 27/06/2013 at 02:09:19
803 Posted 27/06/2013 at 12:48:14
839 Posted 27/06/2013 at 14:18:02
Then,I reckon that will be that unless or until Felli moves on.
842 Posted 27/06/2013 at 14:22:35
847 Posted 27/06/2013 at 14:22:22
I don't really want any Wigan players and certainly none of this group, Kone has a one in three goals per games ratio and he turns 30 in November, not the sort of signing a cash-strapped club should be making, it's just another Saha type player. He may suffer that well known Everton disease of 2nd season syndrome.
But doubtless BK can get good terms so it must be good for us.
Meanwhile LuaLua is expecting to sign for our neighbours oh hum.
870 Posted 27/06/2013 at 15:16:09
We offload Vic (something that should have been done a long time ago), he cost us nothing to buy and we end up only paying £3m for Kone.
Wigan will get a bruiser well suited to life in the Championship, everyone's a winner!
Oh and we'll also have while we're there Alcatraz or Alcapone or whatever his name is on freebie, thank you!
871 Posted 27/06/2013 at 15:25:49
876 Posted 27/06/2013 at 15:35:04
880 Posted 27/06/2013 at 15:41:33
Yep, that could be a sticking point, but this is an excellent chance to offload him, It seems to be the fashion in the Championship for bruisers upfront.
Is 30k very excessive down there?
Jon Withey 876
I personally would not pay much more for him (4m tops), he's not much more than a target man, he ain't got that much finesse and his brute force approach doesn't usually work in the Prem.
Let's hope Coyle can see a need for him.
882 Posted 27/06/2013 at 15:50:26
He's Vic with stupid hair and fewer years to improve.
887 Posted 27/06/2013 at 15:55:37
Ernie, didn't you watch the FA cup final, Kone is a very shrewd operator compared to big Vic and his muscles.
He can keep possession, run with it and knows when to fall over.
I'd have him any day over Vic.
By the way what you see now is what you'll always get from Vic.
929 Posted 27/06/2013 at 17:12:15
328 Posted 28/06/2013 at 13:43:14
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