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Kone determined to join Everton

26/06/2013 | Comments (52)
Arouna Kone is apparently determined to follow manager Roberto Martinez to Everton — after turning down moves to Norwich, Swansea and Hull. But Everton will have to come up with the £6.5M sum stipulated in his buy-out clause.

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James Morgan
395 Posted 26/06/2013 at 07:27:55
6.5m for a 29 year old? No thanks! Maximum 3m for me.
Adam Luszniak
402 Posted 26/06/2013 at 08:34:37
Juventus just paid 12m for tevez.
Chris Morris
405 Posted 26/06/2013 at 08:47:50
£6m would be better spent toward Leroy Fer or a winger to play in front of Coleman or Baines.

I know Pienaar is good but his goal return is shocking

Sam Hoare
411 Posted 26/06/2013 at 09:10:33
As james says 6.5m for a 29 year old sounds unfeasible for us unless he was really spaectacular. Kone did look good last year and for 2-3m could be good business but id rather see us get Wilfried Bony.
Ray Roche
413 Posted 26/06/2013 at 09:09:51
The thing is, Chris, is that Baines is a better player with Pienaar in front of him. Without Pienaar, Baines is less effective and would not produce as many assists as he does now. I'd sooner have a right sided player who can link up with Coleman in the same way that Baines and Pienaar do and put Mirallas inside.
Chris Morris
416 Posted 26/06/2013 at 09:36:24
Ray I agree about Baines and Pienaar connection, but I just feel that we need something extra. Also I think Pienaar is now in his 30's??????
Ray Roche
419 Posted 26/06/2013 at 09:41:34
Yes, I think Pienaar has turned 30, but he still has a good "engine" and someone with his physique can continue for longer than a Yakubu or Campbell. Replacing Pienaar is well down the list in my opinion. I agree with you that any money we have would be better spent on a younger player than Kone who, although he played well against us at Wigan, hasn't impressed me enough to spend such a large tranche of our limited resource on a 29 year old. Sad, really, we are trying to scrape together £6m for him, apparently, and the RS are spending money all over the place. Again.
Andrew Ellams
420 Posted 26/06/2013 at 09:47:05
Baines has always looked more than capable for England without Pienaar in front of him.

I would like to see somebody similar to Miralles on the left who can run at defenders with pace and is able to go outside or come inside and go for goal

Chris Morris
422 Posted 26/06/2013 at 09:58:17
I still maintain we need a keeper before anything else, and I have done for 2 years now
Andrew Ellams
423 Posted 26/06/2013 at 10:02:20
Problem is Chris keepers don't come cheap and I think a Howard who drops the odd clanger against a Jelavic who couldn't a cows arse with a banjo then I can't see how the keeper is a bigger priority
Andrew Ellams
424 Posted 26/06/2013 at 10:03:34
Plus a 36year old central defender who is great on his day but could be one injury away from needing replacing
Mike Hughes
426 Posted 26/06/2013 at 10:00:45
£6.5 million for a 29-year old relegated forward?
No chance unless RM has some Faustian pact with Mouth Almighty Whelan.
We can do better than that.
I was hoping our new manager would have a good European scouting network and tap in to a few bargain gems (given our financial state).

(Anyway, that's my summer break interrupted. I wasn't going to look at any of these rumour mill things. However, seeing as how the RS splashing the cash - hopefully on even more dross - is on every website and teletext page, I just thought it was about time we got some new faces in.)

Liam Reilly
445 Posted 26/06/2013 at 11:28:59
As roger Daltrey would say - Nooooooo - too much

Anthony Flack
448 Posted 26/06/2013 at 12:00:32
Maybe, but if he banged in 20 goals a season for three years, then a mega bargain. I was sort of converted by his general play against Man City in the final, some of his passing was superb.
Al Philby
454 Posted 26/06/2013 at 12:34:37
No more business with that senile Thatcherite buffoon. Let him sell his players on eBay.
Sam Hoare
455 Posted 26/06/2013 at 12:46:07
€7m bid submitted for Honda according to Italian press. He looks a decent player but I would have thought that striker was the main position we need to strengthen in.

Much as Honda would be good it could possibly be a barrier to Barkley getting more game time as well as I think they are similar box to box attacking central midfield players.

Andrew Ellams
456 Posted 26/06/2013 at 12:53:37
Sam, I think Barkley, Honda and Gibson would make a good central 3 in a 4-3-3 formation. That would of course be in a team without Fellaini.

Honda has a bit more drive and Barkley seems more about guile and picking the pass

Ben Jones
457 Posted 26/06/2013 at 12:54:13
Sam, that has to be wrong, because his contract is expiring. He is available for free.

With Kone, same as everyone else really, too much money for someone his age. But keep him as a last resort, it will be better getting him than no striker.

Ross Edwards
458 Posted 26/06/2013 at 12:54:30
I still think we should sign Bony. 31 goals in 30 games last season. He is quick, and is very physical as well. He can provide us something that Jelavic and Anichebe can't: Goals. Lots of them.
Stuart Mitchell
459 Posted 26/06/2013 at 12:58:09
Coleman, Jagielka, Distin, Baines
Barkley, Fer, Honda
Moses, Wilfried Bony, Mirallas

Fer 8m
Bony 12m
Honda 5m

Fellaini sale 23m Pretty much covers the above transfers.

Assuming we have a transfer budget before Fellaini sale.

Bring in Moses and another CB.

Exciting team for next season.

Andrew Ellams
461 Posted 26/06/2013 at 13:00:30
Ben, I think that story has now changed to his contract ends in December so a fee is still required
Ross Edwards
462 Posted 26/06/2013 at 13:09:08
£5million is quite cheap for him though lets be honest. I don't think we should turn our noses up at that.
Ben Jones
464 Posted 26/06/2013 at 13:12:12
Ah right Andrew, that actually makes sense due to the dating of the Russian season.

All the papers are linking Everton with him now. Proven player.

Andrew Ellams
468 Posted 26/06/2013 at 13:22:38
Shame we couldn't sign him up on the sly before the world knew about it.

Not sure we will be competing with Newcastle this time though, he ain't French

Tom Bowers
469 Posted 26/06/2013 at 13:21:46
Kone would certainly be an asset.Maybe they can swap Anichebe plus cash?
Would like to see Barklay step up to the plate big style this year If RM gives him the chances that DM didn't. Even the lkes of Oveido may benefit.
Sam Hoare
470 Posted 26/06/2013 at 13:28:06
The fact that the Honda bid is being reported makes me think that its probably not true. Seems like most of our deals come out of nowhere and I am personally expecting some players coming in that no-one has spoken about before in the gossip sections.

On the other hand i've just watched some Honda on Youtube and he does look pretty useful!

Ray Roche
485 Posted 26/06/2013 at 14:52:54
Andrew Ellams @ 420
Baines appears to play much further forward for England and if you watched his 2nd half performance against the Irish Republic he wasn't as effective with Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain playing in front of him, Chamberlain kept turning inside leaving Baines frustrated out wide. Baines was then caught too far forward and liable to be caught out in a counter attack. He's a much better player with Pienaar.
You could also argue that Jags is better in an England shirt, far less hoof ball than with us.
Andrew Ellams
486 Posted 26/06/2013 at 15:09:39
Ray, if Martinez does actually introduce the 3-5-2 wingback formation then Baines will be further forward and probably not have Pienaar in front of him as he would possibly be somebody sacrificed to accommodate that formation.

Martinez very rarely seems to play a full backs and out-and-out wide midfielders as Moyes did with Baines/Pienaar and Coleman/Mirallas which could be the biggest change to team because, more often and not, that is how we won games last season.

Robert Collins
490 Posted 26/06/2013 at 13:34:04
Tom Bowers @469

Swap Anichebe + cash, excellent shout mate and an excellent chance to offload him (he cost us nothing and is drain on our wage bill).

That's exactly what I thought, It's tough in the league below and muscle is appreciated more than brains, Anichebe will fit right in.

This is providing Coyle does an about turn, I'm concerned he likes his strikers with a bit of sophistication (remember he had Sturridge on loan from Chelski), big Vic may not suit his style?

Wayne Smyth
514 Posted 26/06/2013 at 17:25:56
Why is it that so many people put 2 and 2 together and get 5?

Because we haven't signed anyone, it means that we're skint.

Because we're linked with a player in the tabloids, it means that must be the player Martinez wants.

Because the RS have signed N players and we've signed none(in June), it means we're incompetent.

Because its reported in the national press that we got "outbid" for a player, it means:

a) We made a bid
b) we couldn't afford anything more.

I suspect that Martinez has £10-£20M to spend, due to the increased tv deal and players/staff who've left, freeing up cash on the balance sheet. I think he's just taking his time analysing who he has and who would improve the team. If we're not bidding £5M for a player, then its likely we don't want them.

Don't forget he's playing catch up compared to most managers, having walked into the club not so long ago.

Ray Roche
516 Posted 26/06/2013 at 17:39:01
Andrew Ellams,
Yes, mate, it'll be interesting to see who comes in and who goes out, and what sort of line-up Martinez uses. Whether he'll continue with a 3-5-2 may well depend on transfers and if he thinks our present first 11 can adjust to his tactics. I don't know whether to be excited or full of trepidation....
Wayne McNee
533 Posted 26/06/2013 at 18:19:41
Bowers #469.. 'Anichebe plus cash' has a nice ring to it.
Jeremy Benson
539 Posted 26/06/2013 at 18:37:34
He scored 11 in 34 in the league.

No thanks!

Thats only 4 more than Jelavic, and vic's record was 6 in 26.

So he is hardly prolific. We need a striker who can score 15+ a season. I'd save my money and stick with vic and Jelavic (with velios as backup) if we can't afford a genuine out-and-out 15+ a season man.

Colin Glassar
540 Posted 26/06/2013 at 18:43:53
Agree with Jeremy Benson but, if we could swap him for Big Vic than I'd take him.
Harold Matthews
542 Posted 26/06/2013 at 17:38:08
So true Ray. Baines must get awfully frustrated in the England shirt.
It doesn't matter if it's Oxlade Chamberlain, Downing,Young, Milner or some other cowboy. He gives them the ball, flies up the wing but the return pass seldom comes. They have decided to cut inside.
Personally I blame the coach. As an ex Premiership manager he will have studied dossiers on Baines and I can only conclude that he must be pretty thick.

Heard a radio report this afternoon which made us sound quite busy in the transfer market. BK must be at it again.
I tend to agree with Sam. Our main deals will be quiet and swift.
Apparently it all kicks off when the holidays finish next week.

Ray Roche
550 Posted 26/06/2013 at 19:01:25
Harold, I think our activity will probably kick off on the 31st! As for Baines, I think some England managers just pick the players that the press are clamouring for. There has obviously not been, as you rightly say, any concerted study of why Baines has been so good at Everton.
Ross Edwards
558 Posted 26/06/2013 at 19:22:11
After all Sam, Hondas are reliable aren't they?
Steven Telford
662 Posted 26/06/2013 at 22:43:47
I think (hope) our signings will be a bit more ambitious.
Gavin Ramejkis
675 Posted 26/06/2013 at 23:17:51
Wayne (#514) — we come up with "We are skint" because Agent Kenshite is in charge and, as per his usual pish, his millionaire buddies – at least those who could be arsed turning out – denied knowing what money actually is this evening... and words to the effect that they haven't got any to spend on the club.
Vijay Badhan
710 Posted 27/06/2013 at 02:09:19
No way... £6.5 million for a 29-year-old with an average goal return. We would be better off going for the Ivory Coast international Bony who has been banging them in for fun and is still only 24; he would be a far better option and would be perfectly suited to us.
Mick Doherty
803 Posted 27/06/2013 at 12:48:14
I agree, Vijay, I really like the look of Bony, but what kind of dosh would he cost? I heard £12 million being bandied around, plus he has been linked with the Toon who aren't afraid to splash the 'wonga'.
Richard Dodd
839 Posted 27/06/2013 at 14:18:02
This morning`s Wigan rumour mill has Kone and Alcaraz signing as soon as Robbie returns and Al Habsi following within days.
Then,I reckon that will be that unless or until Felli moves on.
Andrew Ellams
842 Posted 27/06/2013 at 14:22:35
Richard I have heard the same today too. With a combined fee of around £8million. Alcaraz free of course
Patrick Murphy
847 Posted 27/06/2013 at 14:22:22
Richard my fear is that will be it regardless of whether Fellaini stays or goes. I can't see Al Habsi joining us to sit on the bench or if he becomes first choice I can't see Tim Howard sticking around either.

I don't really want any Wigan players and certainly none of this group, Kone has a one in three goals per games ratio and he turns 30 in November, not the sort of signing a cash-strapped club should be making, it's just another Saha type player. He may suffer that well known Everton disease of 2nd season syndrome.

But doubtless BK can get good terms so it must be good for us.

Meanwhile LuaLua is expecting to sign for our neighbours oh hum.

Robert Collins
870 Posted 27/06/2013 at 15:16:09
Surely the obvious deal is big Vic (worth £3m?) + £3m for Kone.

We offload Vic (something that should have been done a long time ago), he cost us nothing to buy and we end up only paying £3m for Kone.

Wigan will get a bruiser well suited to life in the Championship, everyone's a winner!

Oh and we'll also have while we're there Alcatraz or Alcapone or whatever his name is on freebie, thank you!

Andrew Ellams
871 Posted 27/06/2013 at 15:25:49
Problem with Vic dropping down to the Championship is his £30k pw wages.
Jon Withey
876 Posted 27/06/2013 at 15:35:04
Under-valuing Vic there a bit I reckon.
Robert Collins
880 Posted 27/06/2013 at 15:41:33
Andrew Ellams 871

Yep, that could be a sticking point, but this is an excellent chance to offload him, It seems to be the fashion in the Championship for bruisers upfront.

Is 30k very excessive down there?

Jon Withey 876

I personally would not pay much more for him (4m tops), he's not much more than a target man, he ain't got that much finesse and his brute force approach doesn't usually work in the Prem.

Let's hope Coyle can see a need for him.

Ernie Baywood
882 Posted 27/06/2013 at 15:50:26
Kone massively overrated in my view. A few good games doesn't disguise a lack of goals or subtlety in his play.

He's Vic with stupid hair and fewer years to improve.

Robert Collins
887 Posted 27/06/2013 at 15:55:37
Ernie Baywood @ 882

Ernie, didn't you watch the FA cup final, Kone is a very shrewd operator compared to big Vic and his muscles.

He can keep possession, run with it and knows when to fall over.

I'd have him any day over Vic.

By the way what you see now is what you'll always get from Vic.

Mick Doherty
929 Posted 27/06/2013 at 17:12:15
According to the Mirror, Wilfried Bony has signed for Swansea, 10.2 million.....
Richard Reeves
328 Posted 28/06/2013 at 13:43:14
The only player I'm interested in Martinez bringing in from Wigan is McManaman.

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