Reports: Fresh Barry talks planned

Firstly, I canÂ’t help but wonder why we will give Man City ٠.5M for a man they do not own.

Secondly, I canÂ’t help but wonder why on earth we are giving a 33-year-old man a 3-year deal.

Thirdly, why is this deal not yet complete?

Now I can see people saying the deal isnÂ’t done yet because heÂ’s contracted until today, but letÂ’s be realistic: he is owned by one of the best-run clubs in world footy. They know for a fact that we are run by tight bastards who will not pay wages out that Man City owe, therefore IÂ’m sure theyÂ’d have agreed to pay Barry right up to today.

He has defo used his head and looked about, rightly so... but I canÂ’t help but feel we are becoming a little desperate. Many clubs want Barry but how many of them clubs are as good as us? Not many, I think. We should have only offered a 2-year deal and we shouldnÂ’t be still paying Man City now Barry is a FREE AGENT!!!

Our club seems to lack the basics in business sense at the best of times but come on – if a man has no contract, no signing on few is due.

Simples.

Seems ok to me: world cup, then transfer activity then new season. Fantastic.....i can avoid tennis, golf and other naff summer sports!

If he plays as well over the next few seasons as he did last season,will you be sitting in the ground worrying over his wage deal?
WTF has how much he earns got to do with the fan in the street?

That's modern football for you I suppose.

My opinion - sign him up!

If there are clauses in the loan deals that make redeeming them counter productive, then more funds will be available for transfers. If we see little net spending, then I guess it means BK is paying down the debt...

So unless you had all your players on contracts that ran simultaneously to the Broadcast Deal, that would be a bad move. Other clubs are using the new found wealth to develop infrastructure, create a sizeable transfer fund.

If we continue to bump along throwing money at players in the hope that we'll secure their loyalty, we'll forever be in that group of teams on the outside looking in.

He knew he was going to be a free man once July 1 came around so why still making his mind up? And how long do we give him?

He can't really need the money (what footballer does???) after playing at mega bucks City so why had he not already thought "I loved my football at Everton last year so it's a no brainer where I'm going"?

I just hope we don't allow this to drag on and on, we need it sorting by no later than next week, if he is still delaying then we have to move on.

Surely we have already offered Barry some sort if deal so he must know what we have to offer?

Let's not let this drag on Blues, it's the same with that Traore thing, if he's coming back for a year then do it, if not look elsewhere.

So - there is only ٢ million in new money available for pay as salary.

Jim, Gareth Barry is not allowed to talk to English clubs until his contract expires, its a rule.

Dennis, Martinez, like most of us, has probably seen Jagielka playing in midfield before, and so there is no chance of it ever happening again. Alcaraz is more likely actually.

Hallelujah.

Hope the penny drops now.

I would like Barry to sign but, if he doesn't, it won't be a disaster. I think RM has shown enough intelligence in his first season for us to be assured he will have alternatives in mind. He'll certainly have been checking out all sorts of options whilst in Brazil.

The man is a millionaire several times over, he is never going to want for money ...ever (unless he blows it on dodgy deals/stocks)

His family is secure for at least two generations so this "let's get a few extra k a month" winds me up no end.

Offer him the deal, if his leech of an agent says no, tell him where to go!

It has been said often, if your employer was paying you x and the employer across the street offered you xx to do the same job, what would your response be?

If there are no other offers out there and the scumbag agent is just angling for a higher wage no matter what, tell him to do one.

It's all about ego because he already has more money than he can probably ever spend.

Arghhhhhhhh I think that thought would make even a Saint scream,

Jags is in the team only because he is half decent at reading the game, he has no ball ability whatsoever, infact I'd put him right up the with Unsy (David Unsworth) in being one of the poorest distributors of a football.

Mike, the point I was really trying to make is if Gareth Barry was so happy at Everton then why ( unless it's maybe Arsenal) would he want to speak to other English sides?

If he was seriously considering West Ham then it would be money over anything else, and if that were the case then we should move on.

I could understand him holding out for Champions League with Arsenal, perhaps that's the hold up.

I just believe that now here we are in July, he must have had time to take stock of where he wishes to be and if he has already spoken to Everton then he will know the offer on the table, if he doesn't deem it enough then all the delays in the World won't matter, he just won't sign.

Gylfi Syguardsson, a very useful player but victim of the 1000 midfielder system at Spurs is close to joining Swansea for 10 million!!

Another good technically gifted player but as per usual we probably don't have the millions of that mighty global force Swansea City.

We can only speculate on the other offers Barry has had and he may have had offers from abroad and be weighing up family issues and all sorts.

So would I.

It's the modern game, mate — I dislike it as much as you. While the Sky money is rolling in, this is what will happen.

How about Lallana and Lambert to Liverpool?

Shaw and Herrera to United?

Sagna and Fernando to City?

Costa to Chelsea?

It strikes me all the sides vying for that top four yet was they not meant to be our objective?

All we have had is talk about extending a loan deal for a crock striker and waiting for who knows how long for Barry to decide over a deal that should have been thrashed out in May.

It didn't take that long to make Kevin Campbell or Steven Pienaar's loan spell a permanent one.

A player should instantly want to play for Everton Football Club.

If he is undecided like in any situation in life then you feel like you are thinking it's not the best option so you leave it.

All this 'He can sign now or piss off' stuff seems kind of unnecessary, and – in the unlikely event he reads these threads – not exactly a carrot to him staying.

He's never claimed to be an Evertonian and has been here less than a year, so it's not shocking to me that – as a family man especially – he would take his time and consider his options.

Top 4 next season will be an almost impossible ask for Everton FC or any other club who is financially challenged – I dislike it as much as you do but that is just the way it is – deal with it.

Not one of us know, with any certainty, what the behind scenes scenario is, or indeed how it actually works!

One thing that I have always thought about, when transfers abound, is what the player is thinking himself. Most are swayed by agents and more often than not 'misled'!

How many times have we seen players be transferred at a ridiculous fee, then a few months down the line the Manager is sacked. The new Manager does not see the player as being part of his plan etc.

I think most players want to play in every game (if fit) and feel wanted by both Club and fans alike!

There is little doubt that he fits the criteria there, and Roberto is here for the foreseeable future too!

An interesting item... although it is dated from 2013, so, without checking, I don't know whether those figures are the agreed figures. It also seems to me that in order to raise salaries over and above the figure agreed, clubs such as Everton would have to sell their star players to raise revenue – a lose-lose situation. It might also explain the Gareth Barry situation as his wages would be a significant draw on the overall wage bill and it might also explain the fee imposed by Manchester City as an accounting 'get out of jail' card relating to a club's wage bill.

It might be the reason why Everton's CEO Robert Elstone has been aggressively selling season tickets this year.... For a club like Everton, how are they going to spend all of that TV revenue if not on players' wages? Ah ha ... accommodation at Finch Farm and such like.

It looks like the modern-day football supporter will have to take more than a passing interest in accountancy as it seems it is far more important in relation to new signings and player retention than we had supposed.

I see it as a good thing as there is now 'spare' cash to spend on infrastructural projects – something we have needed for 30 years or more. I don't think it is any coincidence that talk of a new stadium has firmed up recently either as this has the makings of where our 'deposit' would come from.

We can spend any extra money form season ticket sales & merchandising so both of these have become far more important – the TV money will be spent where it does most long term good.

On the face of it, a good idea.

Get a grip, chaps.

In the meantime the big question for be is which striker will we bring in? This is the decision that will likely make or break next season and there aren't that many viable options that I can see....

Lukaku — out of our price range plus wants CL football
Remy — wants Arsenal apparently
Welbeck and Hernandez —depends on new manager
Bony — likely cost 㿀m after a strong debut season

Who else?

The likes of Lukaku and Bony should never be out of a club like Everton's price range. We are a consistent top 8 Premier League club and have rarely ever splashed money out just for the sale if it is on wages etc.

Regardless of whether Lukaku, Bony, Ince, Sigurdsson or whoever are overpriced (and most are), we need to pay for the proven quality. We know whatever we would get if we signed Lukaku for either ٠ million or 㿂 million, and that is around about 17 to 20 goals a season. Same with Wilfried Bony. He would come in and score the goals that would have us in or around the top 5 or 6. That's what paying for proven players does.

Welbeck? I'm sorry but I wouldn't have him; he is a poor-man's Daniel Sturridge and wouldn't get you the required amount of goals... he gives you a lot of running and energy but, for me, he's just a more hyped-up version of Marcus Bent.

Hernandez is a strange one. It would be difficult to see him playing the lone-striker role all that well. He is a good goal-poacher for tap-ins but there are two things that I have reservations about:

1) Would he get the right kind of service and support behind him? He would need a disciplined Barkley getting up to help him and the wise players couldn't just hit him like at times with Lukaku last year.

2) He would have me question, can he play over the full 90 minutes, week-in & week-out? It's something that he seems to have struggled with at Man Utd these past two or three years.

I agree with you, in fact it should have been in the rules from the very outset of the Premier League, that a certain percentage of TV money was to be used for infrastructure. However, as the rules are only about to be imposed, it does leave those who have built up their revenue over the last 20 years at a distinct advantage and consigns clubs such as Everton as also-rans.

If the board could persuade somebody to build a new stadium for little or no cost to the football club, it might just enable us to be more competitive — but that's a massive 'if'.

It is concerning however that we were originally informed that his signing would be announced within 48 hours and now, 3 days later, he still hasn't7 been signed.

I worry that this has Elstone/Kenwright stamped all over it and we all know about their track record which is what pissed Moyes off.

Preliminary talks have already been held... with the latter said to be the most fancied.

Who was it that informed us he would be signing within 48 hours?

Doddy reckons that we might sign Maloney from Wigan to play Defensive Midfield....

FFS — he's back and on fire.

They are like Misers hanging on to all the money made over the past two or three windows plus the huge rewards made this season from TV revenue etc. We are like the people with their noses pressed up against the window panes watching the top clubs dining in fancy restaurants.

It is no wonder we are hardly known compared to our neighbours and the untouchables at the top. They are bidding for the worldÂ’s best players whilst we are linked with Barry FFS. I just get angry and frustrated by our own fans total acceptance that EFC have no money and any decent known players are out of our budget.

As Victor Meldrew would exclaim. Â’ I donÂ’t believe itÂ’ !!

He said that there was no way she would even consider a move because they have stables and a paddock. He made light of it, but I think itÂ’s a touch of the Unsworths. He will sign. I think it was on the official site if anyone is bothered enough to root it out.

Man City paid a large part of BarryÂ’s wages last season so insisted, should Everton sign Barry, then we will need to pay that set amount; all this was signed and agreed by both clubs.

Now his contract has run down, we get to save a few pounds... when, all said and done, we shouldÂ’ve just paid the ٠.5 million. ItÂ’s embarrassing we risked letting his contract expire to save a couple of bob.

When all is said and done, we still need to pay City the agreed amount; absolute crazy risking another club nipping in instead of just signing the guy up.

It might be that Barry is just holding out for a deal closest to his 𧴰k pw at Citeh and a 3- or 4-year contract?

We probably want to pay him 㿞 - 80k pw and 1-or 2-year contract? HeÂ’s playing the field hoping Roberto will become anxious and cave in. HeÂ’s made his money and should be grateful of the second chance at EFC!

Roberto should stand firm or show him the door if he doesnÂ’t sign soon, there are other players out there!

I think Barry will sign, but itÂ’s the bit about Everton paying Man City that is probably holding it up.

A 2-year contract, with the view to a third year sounds plausible. Would be surprised if we offered a 3-year deal.

He may even jump ship to MLS after a year – who knows – but I think it’s imperative that he’s on board for next season.

I patience is needed on this one. Barry will know Goodison is the best place for him next season.