Just Making Do

If Spurs have all that financing and get no where, itÂ’s pointless to complain on just making do. How are you going to get the players in to compete with Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal and Chelsea? TheyÂ’ll be signing the likes of Bale in the summer and weÂ’re on the look out for United cast-off Cleverley.

Until the top 4 format changes, and it wonÂ’t, we need to strike lucky with a manager who can at least make us think weÂ’re in with a shout. Moyes was. Martinez isnÂ’t. Bilic could be. But we wonÂ’t have a new guy in for at least another year, unless we flirt with relegation.

That is preposterous notion.

The club is currently not set up, it doesnÂ’t have the budget for wages even, to play European football.

We are slowly dropping down the wages paid table. Goodison Park is a ceiling on the clubÂ’s ability to generate money.

In the absence of investment by the current directors, & smoke & mirrors on their intentions, slow motion decline beckons.

This seems unlikely to change as other clubs get their shit together. For example, West Ham will be able to generate more dollar in their new ground & ultimately have a larger wage budget than us. You have to get it right on the pitch of course, but we are gradually being overtaken.

The failure to move the club forward is going to bite very hard one day unless it begins to happen. How long till they actually produce something workable in terms of a ground move? It’s been about 13 years since the Kings Dock & nothing workable has been produced. The current plans are years away from being concrete if they ever get there.

And while we wait, the decline will continue.

I suspect Roberto has been knocked off track by a Chairman who has his own agenda (good or bad? No-one really knows). The West Ham reference is spot on. The ground, the location, and active board, a business plan open for review and scrutiny, a history as well a solid fan base. With good management (Moyes?) and money they will do well... very well.

RobertoÂ’s position sandwiched between a silent and distant board and a passionate knowledgeable fan base is simply hovering between a rock and a hard place. Like most Evertonians, last season I was ecstatic at the new life breathed into the Club nearly 2 years ago. US Tour with the big boys, the Pirlo penalty, etc. to say nothing of the real Sin Miedo swashbuckling approach. Sadly both Roberto and Bill have been found wanting.

RobertoÂ’s poster-boy image has moved on; only his alter ego remains on open display. BillÂ’s ego is hiding and likely will remain so until he has a Get out of Jail replacement manager he can afford to appoint to recover the sheer damage Roberto has inflicted on a great group of players and supporters alike. The solution, if there is one, must be based on the success on the field above, but not at the expense of everything else. To achieve that, you need a business plan and fantastic management at all levels on and off the field.

Bill and Roberto will provide neither. They deserve each other, but Evertonians past and present deserve much more. I believe the team have secured Premier League safety and beat Man Utd in respect to Sir Philip and in spite of Roberto. Player power does exists but can only do so much without good direction. Very difficult times ahead.

Everton will decline, like Newcastle are doing; you canÂ’t stand still. Modern football and modern business means that success is about managing change, not saying "WeÂ’re doing alright; letÂ’s keep it like this."

Everton need investment, not just in the team, but in the infrastructure, Kenwright does not want that burden. He wants power without the responsibility, which is always the role of the charlatan.

The longer he stays the worse the stasis, LyndonÂ’s word, will become.

IÂ’m bored of Sunday kick-offs and amended start times, bored of being ignored by the media unless weÂ’re playing one Â’of themÂ’ (the Sky advertising for the Goodison Derby was the last straw).

Bored of being lied to around ambitions, spending, investment etc. And annoyed at being pestered by the club, endlessly, since early Feb to renew my season ticket and the sticker on the seat really backfired.

IÂ’ll always support but, from now on, it’s on my terms. IÂ’ll pick and choose Saturday 3pm games and watch the rest on tele/internet.
I know IÂ’ll always get a ticket... and that’s the saddest indictment of where we are as a club.

It really should be great to have a true Evertonian running the club but sadly it is not... it REALLY IS NOT!!!

I have never felt the free fall of our club like I am now. This manager is over his head, we lack ambition, and we need better quality players to replace the average ones.

Nothing new, no ambition, it all makes Everton less attractive to follow.

The worst of all is the fake youth ambition; this season has seen not a single youth player break through to the first team That to me speaks volumes of the decline we are in.

Not good enough, simple as that.

I agree and have too: after 20 plus years of been a season ticket holder, I’ve given up my season ticket. To be honest, it’s not really EvertonÂ’s fault: IÂ’m just sick of us not having 3 pm Saturday kick offs and decided enough is enough now I have 3 young kids.

Bobby Thomas (#2) fair point but what about the piss poor selling of the club worldwideLFC get 㿀 million a year for their sponsor; we get ٠.5 million

LFC get 㿅 million a year for their shirt manufacturer; we get about 𧼐k.

And there are other sponsorships that we canÂ’t compete with.

Just tell me if you can any discrepancy between any of the above figures???

I think the ground as a revenue generator is at its limit & this canÂ’t be good. But yes, commercially, we are poor.

There is no point in comparing us to Liverpool as the worldwide fan base & exposure means the kit supply deals & sponsorship are in a different league. We donÂ’t participate regularly in European football either for example.

However our current deals are poor. We all know about the Kitbag deal and it has, although stemmed losses & provided guaranteed income, ultimately been a very poor deal for many reasons. It still has 4 years!!

Our shirt sponsorship is, again, poor value. In the most watched league in the world does it make sense to retain the same sponsor for around a decade? Are we actively, aggressively seeking to max the opportunity? Who knows. But compared to peer clubs we fare badly.

Judge the manager on whether or not he can hit that level on a regular basis whilst playing swift attacking football.

Anything above that is a bonus to be relished but never expect it.... With or without BK.

You have put into words exactly how I feel also. At my age (66), I feel I will never again see the blues successful. The opposite seems more likely. We have been in decline for 16 long years under Kenwright and it could well continue for a similar period, by which time we could have done a Leeds. The club is in a shocking state, with a ground that is a millstone round our necks.

I have not renewed my season ticket this year as I no longer have any expectations that we will move forward in the summer. When have we ever under Kenwright?

What you say is true, but at least we could be moving forward instead of the decline we have had under Kenwright. We should have had a new ground on Kings Dock and the commercial side could have been developed as at other clubs. With these owners, we have lost out on every aspect you can think of. A new ground or redeveloping GP seem a pipe dream now.

However I, like many others, refuse to give up hope that we will finally get our club back from the charlatans that masquerade as competent owners and bring back, maybe not the former glories of Championships, but at least show a willingness to compete for trophies and put pride back into being an Evertonian.

Please do tell us... I bet you or anybody else on this thread canÂ’t.

Everton is a glorious football club. In my opinion, the reason nobody wants to buy it is the old (but magnificent) stadium and the international recession/lacklustre economy. We donÂ’t see other clubs throughout Europe changing hands right now because, as Bill Kenwright has said, "owning a football club is a rich manÂ’s game" and rich men arenÂ’t buying football clubs anywhere right now.

If there were rich men interested in Everton, there would be no way Kenwright could stop them. ThatÂ’s how M&A works and thatÂ’s what the whole lot of the whiners on ToffeeWeb donÂ’t get.

Your last paragraph is BS as all BK and the rest of the board have to do is say no and then even Bill Gates couldnÂ’t buy the club as itÂ’s privately owned. As far TW whinners go perhaps theyÂ’re just realist while the BK apologists donÂ’t bother with the site because they are in the minority?

So how does that explain the fiasco with turning away Sheik Mansour? What about Fortress Sports Fund? Why did Randy Lerner resort to buying Villa, and why is the Tony Adams led consortium now trying to buy it off him? Why is Josh Harris ready to plough 𧴜m into getting 90% of Palace?
The interest in buying has always been out there in some capacity. On the other hand, the genuine interest to sell had never been present.

So why are there 7 potential buyers for Birmingham? WBA have had tickles lately and the announcement about Villa yesterday just show those statements to be complete BS.

Surely as corners provide a good chance of scoring we need to vary both the taker and the delivery into the box, thereby creating a problem for the opposition defence.

Sadly, I fear it will be the same old shit next season.