Everton lose in the most 'Everton' way possible
This nonsense is happening far too regularly now and has to be stopped one way or the other.
Everton 2 - 3 West Ham United
Keen to catch the crucial clash at the top of the table in the North London derby, Ste and I arrived at the pub early. It was just as well that we did too as it was pretty busy then and filled up more and more. Luckily by that point we had a pretty reasonable spec and were able to catch the cracker of a derby, Arsenal levelling late on to secure a point. Gary and Sue joined us a little later on.
It's with regret that we watch these games at the top of the table. The way this season has panned out it's deeply frustrating to see the talent in our squad as we sit in the bottom half (of the table). We've really missed a big opportunity this campaign.
We were all surprised to see John Stones return in place of Gareth Barry who was apparently suffering from a chest infection. Everton going three at the back, thereby adding a lot of responsibility on to the midfield duo of James McCarthy and Ross Barkley. Anthony Taylor, who's made controversial decisions in games against West Ham previously, refereed. Everton attacked the Park End in the first half.
The way we were set up in the first half, I couldn't really see how we were going to get a goal in the game as having one less man in midfield looked as though we were going to struggle to create opportunities. It wasn't long after I'd explained this to those around us that we only went and scored when Romelu Lukaku exploited bad positioning by the young Reece Oxford, raced into the penalty area and thrashed the ball accurately past Adrian. Everton ahead. Perhaps not deserved at that point, but ahead.
We really kicked on from there and produced more opportunities in and around the goal with James McCarthy and Ross Barkley both testing Adrian with speculative efforts, Barkley's volley in particular was as impressive as it was audacious.
Of course things were going too well, and things became more difficult when Kevin Mirallas was sent off for two yellow cards. His first dive was stupid, but the foul which followed when already on a yellow card was idiotic. Though Aaron Cresswell made more of it than was necessary and the West Ham players did what they could to get Kevin Mirallas sent off, it was the right call and could arguable have been a straight red card as it was dangerous. Should he have been booked for a yellow? Well yes, I hate diving and he should have been punished, though it's the lack of consistency which maddens me. You see them sort of dives all the time in games and more often than not the referee waves it away and play goes on. It's difficult to overlook how much time was spent on the floor by Emenike also.
We got to the break a goal ahead. At half time Everton played a tear-jerker of a video on the screen of a teenage musician who recently lost his battle with cancer, passing away on 31st December 2015. They then played a song he'd written in a lovely gesture. They are great at this sort of thing Everton.
Onto the second half and John Stones was sacrificed with Mohammed Basic added to the midfield as we went to something of a 4-4-1 system. We performed splendidly in the second half and put in a real effort and things were looking rosy on 56 minutes when Romelu Lukaku and Aaron Lennon combined perfectly to put Everton 2-0 ahead to the palpable delight of the crowd.
Things were looking even better a little later when Anthony Taylor awarded Everton a penalty when Besic was tripped as he burst through towards goal. Replays show it be just outside the box but we were awarded the penalty anyhow. I didn't much like the little argument between Lukaku and Barklery prior to the penalty. These things should be decided before the game and I didn't much like Adrian's gamesmanship before Lukaku struck the penalty. Actually I don't like the detestable Adrian full stop, and I now like him even less after he saved the penalty. It can't however be ignored quite how poor Lukaku's penalty was. I thought he was smart changing his run up direction as I felt that might have fooled Adrian, but the stutter before the strike is always a gamble and in the end I think Lukaku was caught in two or three minds as to where to put it.
This cost us big time. Lukaku was furious with himself and, desperate to make amends, he manufactured an opportunity well to get through on goal but was again thwarted, this time by an admittedly excellent Adrian save.
West Ham United took heart from this and then realised quite how easy it was to score against us, with all three goals effectively coming from straightforward balls into the penalty area. Michael Antonio and Diafra Sakho both headed goals into our net in the space of just three minutes, and then in the last minute Dimitri Payet made the most of more catastrophic Everton defending to win it for West Ham United.
It was all just ridiculous. Game after game Ste and I trudge off on the way home lamenting wild substitutions from Roberto and he did it again this time by taking off Aaron Lennon and experimenting with our new signing Oumar Niasse up front...essentially reverting to some sort of 4-3-2 formation. It was no surprise that West Ham's equalising goal came from a cross from the position where Lennon had been occupied on the left whilst Oviedo and Barkley did little to prevent the ball coming into the box.
Equally as crazy was his later decision to bring on Gareth Barry at the expense of Romelu Lukaku. Surely Gerard Deulofeu or even Leon Osman would have been a better bet at this point...particularly as we were still trying to win the game. This nonsense is happening far too regularly now and has to be stopped one way or the other.
When I got back home I was listening to a bit of the 606 phone in on Radio Five Live and a really intelligent Evertonian caller was on the line complaining about Roberto's "ridiculous" substitutions. When asked who should come in to replace him she said something along the lines of "Well I don't know. That's not my job. Them people at Southampton who went out and found Mauricio Pochettino and Ronald Koeman. We need to get them. There's a lot of good, highly skilled managers out there in the world and we need people to come to Everton and find them."
I couldn't put it better myself.
Player Ratings
Robles: I'm not so sure what he could have done with the goals but I do know that if Howard was playing people would have been screaming at him for not coming for any of them crosses. His distribution however was absolutely appalling. He's far from convincing me that he is the answer. 5
Oviedo: He should have done better with stopping the cross for their winner but otherwise he worked hard and did get one assist in the game. Playing him ahead of Baines is something I'll never understrand however. 6
Funes Mori: Caught a bit flat footed I think with Sakho's goal and wasn't really dominant enough at the back when we needed to stand firm and hold our lead. 5
Jagielka: Dealt with a lot throughout the game but, like his team mates, buckled late on. 6
Stones: Got caught out a few times but also made a couple of good tackles. Substituted at the break. 5
Coleman: Not his greatest game. 5
McCarthy: My man of the match. Took responsibility and covered acres of pitch. 8
Barkley: Also took on a lot of responsibility and was one of Everton's better players on the day. Could have done more to stop the cross for the equaliser but he wasn't the only one guilty of switching off when we needed to be alert. 8
Lennon: Has been a revelation since coming back into the team and scored another fine goal. Shouldn't have been substituted. 8
Mirallas: Not a great contribution obviously. 4
Lukaku: The penalty miss aside he was a constant menace and shouldn't really have finished on the losing side. He's probably thought that more than once this season. 7
Substitutes:
Besic: Did well on his return and was good and committed. Will likely be needed against Chelsea next weekend. 7
Niasse: Didn't contribute. 5
Barry: Did his best to try and rescue the game. 6
Reader Comments (55)
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2 Posted 06/03/2016 at 20:10:19
Who do you fancy from the following?
Martin O'Neill?
Stuart Pearce?
Alan Stubbs?
We could do a lot worse!
3 Posted 06/03/2016 at 20:12:26
4 Posted 06/03/2016 at 20:25:33
If we brought in any of the managers below I'd be happy.
Mourinho
Garcia
Hiddink
Koeman
Howe
5 Posted 06/03/2016 at 20:29:50
6 Posted 06/03/2016 at 20:34:48
Gavin any of those will do for me even Rafa who would no doubt become a true blue if he ever got it.
7 Posted 06/03/2016 at 20:46:05
You can not be serious!.... If we have a load of money it has to be a manager that we know will improve us.
Mourinho should be number one choice but probably will never happen.
Hiddink would be a great appointment although the man is near 70 so may call it a day after Chelsea.
Who knows, but the board should let Martinez know he is on a yellow card!
8 Posted 06/03/2016 at 20:52:24
Not having that, Paul, but we all see players differently.
9 Posted 06/03/2016 at 20:59:09
10 Posted 06/03/2016 at 21:26:37
We still want the goals and attractive attacking play but lets have a manager with more defensive nous. I believe Howe could meet that criteria.
Hiddink is also growing on me. He seems to have humility, a trait I've not seen in many Dutch managers.
11 Posted 06/03/2016 at 21:28:26
Martinez and his Wigan gang have to be removed from the club because they are totally incapable of running a successful EPL side. We were punching above our weight with Moyes but we have a good squad now that is punching well below it's weight.
I think that Mirallas needs to be sold.
12 Posted 06/03/2016 at 21:42:23
Mirallas should have been sold some time ago.
I know a lot are shouting for Eddie Howe, him being a fan and all, but he's still a rookie and I think we need a manager of some standing to take us forward.
13 Posted 06/03/2016 at 21:56:56
For two yellow cards or being the last tackler, a fairer system would be to ban the player concerned for 3 games similar to the type of ban they get from an accumulation of yellow cards. An alternative would be the ban plus immediate substitution so that the player would still have a walk of shame. What is so special about 2 yellows in one game especially when ref's can get one or both completely wrong and managers groom their players to try to influence the ref to issue cards? A dreadful system that is a punishment only on the people who pay for the game.
14 Posted 06/03/2016 at 21:57:52
I would much prefer, if possible, to get someone who has a decent track record either here ir abroad. For me, of the managers mentioned above, probably Koeman or if possible, Rafa. Sacrilege to some but Rafa has a track record of winning trophies, even at the chavs where they hated him.... and his family still live over the water.
15 Posted 06/03/2016 at 22:02:51
We went down this road when we appointed RM. His CV was hardly a glowing one apart from the FA Cup win.
I fancy Hiddink to get the best out of this squad. He has the credentials and Chelsea don't seem to want him at the end of the season so he will be available.
16 Posted 06/03/2016 at 22:17:48
17 Posted 06/03/2016 at 22:24:40
18 Posted 06/03/2016 at 22:31:18
19 Posted 06/03/2016 at 22:32:13
20 Posted 06/03/2016 at 22:42:49
Bielsa and Garcia are more exotic options whilst I would be pretty happy with Koeman or even Howe who I rate highly though would be the least experienced.
None of this Stubbs/Ferguson malarkey. We need someone who has had excellent results in tough leagues. Not someone whose heart is in the right place...
21 Posted 06/03/2016 at 23:01:30
22 Posted 06/03/2016 at 23:05:17
Firstly, Dear God no to Martin O'Neill or Stuart Peace!
I think, now that it looks increasingly likely that Conte will be going to Chelsea, and hoping we have some new funds very soon, I think we should absolutely go for broke and try and get ("Dirty") Diego Someone. A top, top up and coming young manager which would send an absolute message about the statement of intent from Everton under a new regime.
Simeone is due to make a statement on his intentions in April and he could be available sooner if Atletico don't make the CL Final.
There's a proper winner who would not stand for second best.
23 Posted 06/03/2016 at 23:14:15
I would love Hiddink but I don't think he would come, maybe if he beats us 3-0 on Saturday wins the FA Cup and gets Chelsea relegated then he might....
Jose would be a car crash waiting to happen, Benitez? If he thought he was hated at Chelsea then that would be nothing compared to what he would get at Goodison!
Pellegrini don't like him but he would certainly do a job.
Koeman would be a decent choice for me although I don't think he would leave Southampton.
24 Posted 06/03/2016 at 23:15:29
25 Posted 06/03/2016 at 23:21:11
Evertonians have had an inferiority complex for years. Hughes? Pulis? Pardew? FFS.
NSNO and all that.
26 Posted 06/03/2016 at 23:23:33
We no doubt will have appointed Martinez, as he will have fitted the brief of favouring attractive football (something most fans said they wanted at the time) but came with Premier League experience and a domestic trophy on his CV. This allows us, or specifically BK, to avoid the 'risk' of scouring the world and also showing up our alarming lack of international knowledge.
My choice would be to try and force Martinez upstairs, as I like his plans for our academy system, his desire to play passing football, his vision for our facilities and his scouting, as I believe most players he has signed are good quality. However, it is becoming clear that none of this matters if you can't sort it out on the pitch. Therefore, we need a great tactician; my choice would be Jorge Sampaoli.
Sampaoli may be a risk, having never managed in a major league, but look what he has achieved with Chile. He is clearly a visionary and has walked out on Chile; therefore he is available. My only concern would be that I have no idea about the quality of his scouting and player acquisition - a move up for Martinez could help there. Look at what Leicester have achieved with a risky appointment, wherein most of the backroom staff remain in place. If we sack off some of the rest of them but kept Martinez in a director of football capacity, we could achieve something similar; although I'm sure his ego would not allow it!
27 Posted 06/03/2016 at 23:25:31
One good thing playing this game. The selection of candidates are a lot better now we have investment. Imagine the prospects of deciding between Tony Pulis, Phil Neville, Alan Stubbs, Duncan Ferguson and Mark Hughes.
28 Posted 06/03/2016 at 23:26:07
Sven Goran Erikson
Kevin Keegan
Graham Souness
Jimmy Krankie
I'd have included Ken Dodd but I think he's semi-retired nowadays.
29 Posted 06/03/2016 at 23:33:58
The Toothy Twat.
30 Posted 06/03/2016 at 23:37:20
Remember Brendan Rodgers, Paul Lambert, Malky MacKay and dare we say it, Roberto Martinez. All were tipped to be top managers three or four years ago, all proved not to be up to the job. We were lucky with Moyes but usually these people get one big job, fail and then disappear down the leagues.
31 Posted 06/03/2016 at 23:54:31
32 Posted 06/03/2016 at 00:11:42
There is no way with our new man on board you will see a Big Dunc / Stubbs type of appointment. Thank God.
As for the Mourinhos and Hiddinks they only want clubs at the top table this year we might not finish top half.
Pellegrini might work oozes integrity but getting on.
Eddie Howe? Nice idea but too risky.
Which probably leaves.... why not splash the cash and get....
Diego Simeone.
I'd like to see one of his team's convert four 2-0 leads into defeats.
33 Posted 07/03/2016 at 00:15:55
34 Posted 07/03/2016 at 00:19:57
Pulis has just handed a lesson to Martinez. With his WBA at home and holding a 1-goal lead over Man Utd, Tony Pulis took off a forward and brought on a defender. Not only that but United were down to 10 men.
35 Posted 07/03/2016 at 00:27:22
36 Posted 07/03/2016 at 01:07:41
It would seem that Arsenal fans don't really want him anymore.
37 Posted 07/03/2016 at 02:09:49
38 Posted 07/03/2016 at 07:00:11
No more chancers and philosophers . PLEASE!
39 Posted 07/03/2016 at 07:09:10
From what I can see on the domestic front the manager at Southampton or the manager at Bournemouth would be good choices. If we did not have the additional funding then the managers at Burnley or Middlesbrough might be candidates. I don't know who else is available outside of the domestic leagues but could not see the Atletico Madrid manager moving to the North West.
All the above managers are better options than the current occupant. It is vital that we get the next call right!
40 Posted 07/03/2016 at 07:47:55
THERE WILL BE NO CHANGE SOON AT EVERTON!
41 Posted 07/03/2016 at 09:40:32
Can we not fire them and hire some people more worthwhile or is that RM's job? Because if it is then he must go and take them with him.
Alternatively, I believe with the right people around him we could make great inroads and perhaps that is were our angst should be getting directed.
It would be interesting to hear more from fans near the dugout with feedback about body language, who seems to be calling the shots etc etc.
42 Posted 07/03/2016 at 10:25:42
43 Posted 07/03/2016 at 12:47:03
I watched him and Bilic closely on Saturday and whilst Bilic was very animated and gesturing to his players to do certain things our man Bobby brown shoes tends to stand very still, arms folded and occasionally shouts and makes a gesture with his hands. If you watch him closely its usually the same hand gesture.
After Lennon went off Bilic clearly was telling his players to exploit the gaps on the right hand side (our left) etc whilst Bobby stood still like a rabbit in the headlights.
I usually feel that Martinez makes the substitutions as if we have asked the opposition manager what he would like us to do and hence they often benefit the opposition rather than us.
In summary the man is not up to the job and should be replaced immediately
44 Posted 07/03/2016 at 14:19:51
45 Posted 07/03/2016 at 14:50:39
As for replacements Jose Mourinho, if he hasn't already signed for Man Utd, David Moyes never had a sniff of the money around now and some of our better players where signed by him. Mark Hughes, Slaven Bilic & Chris Coleman have done decent jobs too.
46 Posted 07/03/2016 at 15:16:42
I am not sure about Koeman. I have never quite forgiven him for getting one of our lads sent off. I believe it was Craig Short, in an away tie in Rotterdam in our ill-fated return to Europe.
I would like us to be going for the likes of Simeone, Jose, Biesla..... But it's a big ask.
47 Posted 07/03/2016 at 16:24:58
So is mine, Ian.
48 Posted 07/03/2016 at 17:11:29
Roberto has flattered to deceive at so many levels he almost certainly has no long term future. However if we can maintain the good qualities he brought to the club, (sportsmanship, integrity, attacking intent and flair, people's club social focus, etc.) and add to this the solution for backbone, concentration over 90 minutes, a seriously good goalkeeper, then gentlemen we will be in a strong position.
Everton give the major responsibilities to the manager which I believe works well up to a point. However the cronyism of the typical manager's backroom team worries me. We have allowed Roberto to surround himself excessively with his chums, even on the medical support side of things. Whoever comes in we need to get the balance right.
My preference would be Pelligrini. I like the dignity and style of the man, but it must be acknowledged he has not set the world alight with City. He does however talk sense in the after-match interviews. I would also like to see USA's Jurgen Klinsman given a chance to see what he can do...
49 Posted 07/03/2016 at 17:58:35
Not too sure that a sin-bin is the answer though Martin. I would prefer the introduction of Orange cards! Which would mean the player WOULD be sent off, but can be replaced by a substitute. Only applicable to the first sending off! After that players can be sent off as per today! Very seldom do teams have more than one player sent off!
I would also like a rule to stop all substitutions after 80/85 mins? What a bleeding bore that is? Subs coming in for 1 or 2 mins just to waste time. Bullshit if you ask me!
50 Posted 07/03/2016 at 18:31:57
I don't have a problem where a player receives a straight red and the team then have to play with 10 men.
51 Posted 07/03/2016 at 19:01:15
I can't knock your choice of Pelligrini. He is the kind of manager we should be aiming for. He wouldn't be on my own short list, but I wouldn't dispute his managerial record.
I thought your comment about him having integrity was kind of incongruent from my own perception. He strikes me as a very bad loser and he doesn't mind letting the press know about it. The touchline battle with Alan Pardew also comes to mind. Pelligrini actually reminds me of Wenger in some ways. He's another one who spits his dummy out a lot when the gooners lose, and has had his moments having touchline altercations with Mourinho.
52 Posted 07/03/2016 at 21:08:34
I'm also not so sure about the sin bin because sides can defend well with 10 men for shortish periods but 10 minutes with only 9 players would soon stop fouling and simulating. I really like the idea of the offender being replaced by an U21 player too.
It should also be made possible for players and referees to be cited and punished after the event like in rugby especially when simulation has obviously gained a wrong decision. Benteke should be banned for that dreadful dive and Palace awarded the points no question about it. It doesn't even out neither but seems to benefit only the powerful clubs. On this basis if Lukaku had scored his penalty on Saturday it would have been a travesty. Besic was fouled but it was outside of the area. No question of simulation by Besic but a bad decision nonetheless.
It is simply far too important in top level football to rely only on one all powerful referee even assisted by two "assistant" refs he can overrule. Rugby has been cleaned up and football must follow it.
53 Posted 07/03/2016 at 23:09:53
However, I think we saw a manager with ideas on Saturday talking to his team, fist pumping his subs as they went onto the pitch. Billic would have been a good choice for us a couple of years back.
I like Howe, but think we should look for a man with experience, If we want to challenge we have to get in a man with some clout, and then back his judgement. He should have learnt his trade already and command respect.
With the new outlook we should be thinking of the likes of Hiddink, Benitez, or Pellegrini but never Mourinho.
54 Posted 08/03/2016 at 08:39:40
Some people have short memories all right... we all remember the 'small club' jibe and didn't those witty kopites let us know about it...
I'd rather stick with this knobhead we've got now than go down the road of bringing an ex-RedShite manager in. Despicable... absolutely despicable.
55 Posted 08/03/2016 at 11:53:46
This is the guy who inexplicably keeps walking into top jobs only to destroy successful teams within a couple of seasons. The man is a serial failure, and thoroughly unlikeable to boot.
Luckily, we won't be able to afford him, or his transfer targets anyway! Me, I quite like the idea of Maureen at the helm, although logic dictates he'll end up at Man Utd despite all the denials.
Great report, Paul, and it's good to see I'm not the only one who thinks Robles is no better than a squad player, and not the answer to our goalkeeping problems.
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1 Posted 06/03/2016 at 19:57:20
He's as blind as he can be
Just sees what he wants to see
Nowhere Man, can you see me at all?
He's a real Nowhere Man
Sitting in his Nowhere Land
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody