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1 Posted 25/08/2015 at 06:45:59
In fact, most people would support Martinez for sticking it to Chelsea/Man Utd or whoever else, and holding to our best players.
2 Posted 25/08/2015 at 06:51:51
In fact, I 100% agree with the approach: keep your talent, save and buy the best you can. I call it the mini galactico method. It builds over time a real high quality outfit which we are closer to than ever before.
3 Posted 25/08/2015 at 06:58:38
4 Posted 25/08/2015 at 07:33:34
As well as the opposition of nineteen other clubs in the Premier League he's up against an inept board, whose behavior this summer is beyond parody.
I didn't have much sympathy last season for him, but I do now. Perhaps he didn't fully realise what a basket case he was joining.
5 Posted 25/08/2015 at 07:40:45
The transfer window is sadly becoming an embarrassment though. It's becoming very difficult to keep the faith!
6 Posted 25/08/2015 at 07:49:50
7 Posted 25/08/2015 at 07:50:02
If Martinez can't turn water into wine, like our last manager Moyes did, by signing lots of gem like players for next to nothing, then he's not Billy Bullshit's cup of tea!
I said loads of times, Kenwright must have loved Moyes as he always saved his skin by continuously bringing in players like Cahill, Arteta, Lescott etc on a relatively low budget.
Martinez has so far not shown that canny ability and if anything it will be this that gets him the boot if results go on a downward spiral.
8 Posted 25/08/2015 at 07:55:34
9 Posted 25/08/2015 at 08:07:22
He talks of golden generations and this team attempting to break into the top four, but in reality it's just not going to happen. He talks of consistency but you can only get consistency if your players concentrate for the entirety of a football match and our boys just don't do that.
Yes we played the best team in the league on Sunday but the goals we conceded were exactly the problem that I talk about... Concentration!
Martinez talks a lot about fine margins and that we shouldn't point the finger at Tim Howard on Sunday but it's on the fine margins that your keeper and defenders need to be truly immaculate and Howard is poor on fine margins. Sure, he makes some routine blocks which you'd expect from a Premier League goalkeeper but he slips up too often on "crucial moments"... and likewise our defence.
For this reason, it's so frustrating that Martinez can't be allowed to improve this side to actually fulfil his ambitions of a top four place.
Golden generations are defined by success and for success you need to be totally perfect on nearly everything you do.
10 Posted 25/08/2015 at 08:09:32
As the possibility of Stones leaving recedes further and further, someone will have to pay for disappointing their (Chelsea) paymasters; it looks like it could be Bobby...
11 Posted 25/08/2015 at 08:27:19
12 Posted 25/08/2015 at 08:30:58
The problem is not the manager but the lack of money. David Moyes's comments of bringing a knife to a gunfight are proving – having seen the gulf in class between us and Citeh on Sunday – depressingly poignant.
13 Posted 25/08/2015 at 08:38:42
The only thing Martinez is doing right is trying to keep our better young players. His tactics and methods are shite and that is a sacking offence but certainly not NOT selling the youngsters.
14 Posted 25/08/2015 at 08:54:20
Our plan is a good one, keep everyone and add little bits of quality here and there. Unfortunately the last bit seems to be tough.
I'd much rather that than the '12 in, 11 out' policies of some other clubs.
15 Posted 25/08/2015 at 09:08:33
We can't add the necessary quality that's needed to take the club onwards; Cleverley and Deulofeu will not be enough to substantially improve what's here already.
The signing of a Yarmolenko, for example, would have given players, fans and the management a major shot in the arm but of course that's dead in the water now.
16 Posted 25/08/2015 at 09:08:44
BK will only sack Roberto if we enter the bottom 6 for a long period.
17 Posted 25/08/2015 at 09:29:24
So, if we get a massive bid (say 㿅 million plus) for one player every few years, sometimes as the man in charge you do have to think "Should I take this if it means it benefits the club and team overall for the next couple of years?"
18 Posted 25/08/2015 at 09:30:50
Everton desperate for new ground and Chelsea awash with money are desperate for John Stones and Martinez won't put a price of 𧸴million on his head and sell him as he wants to keep him. He should be sacked for that.
Daft, you say... well, he started it.
19 Posted 25/08/2015 at 10:22:09
20 Posted 25/08/2015 at 10:39:45
"You need to sell to move on, so wake and smell the coffee, give way to inevitable. He needs to go to Chelsea."
That's what is at the heart of this piece IMO. The likes of Everton are there to develop players for the moneyed teams like Chelsea and Man City, oh and by the way, go down bravely after giving them a good test, just like Sunday.
Joyce and his ilk can Fuck Off with their advice as far as I'm concerned.
22 Posted 25/08/2015 at 10:59:44
23 Posted 25/08/2015 at 11:11:50
I don't think it has anything to do with the Stones situation or anything else — just a personal view by another Dark Side supporting journalist who often try and create and increase tension at Everton, because it's what they enjoy the most.
24 Posted 25/08/2015 at 14:26:40
Really getting pissed off with this media manipulation, so for once I hope that Martinez turns things round and collectively as fans, manager, players, even the board can put the finger well and truly up and say Fuck Off!
25 Posted 25/08/2015 at 15:03:44
What an absolutely ridiculous article.
27 Posted 25/08/2015 at 17:34:42
Sorry - great player to be but just one player.
28 Posted 25/08/2015 at 20:20:30
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