David Moyes closing in on another P45...

21/09/2015  39 Comments  [Jump to last]

David Moyes is reportedly nearing the sack after Real Sociedads dreadful start to the La Liga season continued.

Moyess side lost 3-2 to Espanyol on Saturday evening, a match in which they scored their first league goals of the season. That defeat follows 0-0 draws with Deportivo and Sporting Gijon and a 1-0 away loss at Real Betis.

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Darryl Ritchie
1 Posted 21/09/2015 at 07:12:23
Moyes isn't worried, he just looks worried. He always looks worried. Even when he smiles he looks worried.
Colin Glassar
2 Posted 21/09/2015 at 07:18:16
He's lasted longer than I thought he would. Maybe his old mate, Sir Red Nose, can get him a job as his personal valet.
Andrew Clare
3 Posted 21/09/2015 at 07:22:35
Not many clubs will accept mediocrity.
John Daley
4 Posted 21/09/2015 at 08:10:44
I was never his biggest fan and I lost whatever respect I had remaining for him during the whole Baines-Fellaini-"Roberto doesn't understand how Everton work" affair, but he got his comeuppance and it would be a bit churlish to wish failure on him for the rest of his career.

I hope he turns it around, grabs some 'incredible' draws and manages to get out of there alive... or at least gets out of there while he can still pass as the leathery, liverspotted, lashes of talc down his grots, granddad of that ginger lad who used to manage us ten years ago.

Poor sod looks like he's been aging in dog years since he done one to Old Trafford... and not a good dog like Old Yeller, Beethoven or Air Bud either, but a really mangey, scruffy, old mongrel that looks like it's been wandering a post-apocalyptic wasteland, living off irradiated mutant piss... like Liza Minelli or that blonde bird who used to lip-sync and slapper it up a bit in Girls Aloud.

Andrew Ellams
5 Posted 21/09/2015 at 08:43:08
There is a possibility that the Scotland job will come up if Strachan only manages 4th place in their qualifying group so maybe he will throw his hat into that particular ring.
Jim Bennings
6 Posted 21/09/2015 at 08:59:22
Hard lines Moyesie!

Still think the job he's destined for is either Newcastle or Villa, as if both of them carry on the ways they are you can guarantee the managers seats won't be occupied for long.

Craig Walker
7 Posted 21/09/2015 at 09:13:32
The RS might be looking for a new manager soon. We can dream.
Phil Sammon
8 Posted 21/09/2015 at 10:03:15
I wanted him to flop at Man Utd after the way he treated us.

But... good on him for giving Spain a try. Too few British managers/players go abroad and I think it'll serve him well in the future.

Peter Barry
9 Posted 21/09/2015 at 10:13:38
Moyes will fail wherever he goes and his sort of 'safety first ' 'all track back' football bores the tits off most supporters too.
Chris Wilson
10 Posted 21/09/2015 at 10:40:49
The Chicago Fire in the MLS sacked their manager on Saturday sooooo... if Owen Coyle can come over here and do a mediocre job, than a former Man U manager would probably do... better. (I'm not serious, by the way!)
Jim Knightley
11 Posted 21/09/2015 at 10:53:47
I don't have ill-feelings for him. The whole Fellaini and Baines thing wasn't pretty, but he was a resounding success for us.

After a decade of generally poor league finishes, we witnessed a decade of generally top 7 finishes. He started with a rotten squad and turned it into a very good squad with a net spend of less than £2 million a season. It was a remarkable achievement, and last season demonstrated the difficulties in achieving Moyes-like efficiency.

I wouldn't be surprised if he got a Premier League job, if he is sacked, when it becomes available. Newcastle or Sunderland perhaps?

Aidy Dews
12 Posted 21/09/2015 at 16:20:54
Thing with Moyesy, he won't change his ways. He went there, did a job, made them solid and kept them up and into a respectable position, but this season was a fresh start and a chance for him to do things differently.

You'd think he'd of learned from his experience at United and try and open up a bit tactically and be a bit more adventurous in his play as we all know he's brilliant when it comes to defensive work and setting up teams to be hard to beat but he hasn't, even though he admitted after the Man Utd sacking he can't go about managing every club the way he did us and be more expansive.

Like some have said, he's probably destined for a job like Villa or Newcastle and tbh, cos he knows the league, the players, he'll do a decent job at either of those clubs.

James Stewart
13 Posted 21/09/2015 at 17:19:56
A lot of sour grapes. It was a pretty courageous move for Moyes to go there. Not many British managers even attempt another league so fair play to him. I was highly critical of him at times when he was our manager but he deserves respect for our transformation under him. One of the biggest achievements in EPL history in my opinion.

He is a good manager with a strong work ethic and he will be in demand should he come back to England. No hard feeling towards him at all anymore.

Eugene Ruane
14 Posted 21/09/2015 at 17:27:17
Well at least if he does get the order of the Spanish archer, money won't be a concern for him (or I'm guessing, the next 9 generations of Moyes..es...ses).

He must have had (very) roughly 㿊M from us, plus ٣M or so from Man Utd, plus whatever the Spanish gave him.

Now of course 㿏M+ can be spent, but Moyes is hardly Steve Rubell and always looked the type who wouldn't give a door a bang.

(Can imagine him thinking the purchase of a bag of Mint Imperials frivolous?)

I don't particularly wish him ill (or well) but, if I'm honest, I have been schadenfreudistically (!?) entertained by his performance and demeanour since he left for 'bigger things'.

(So I suppose he did eventually provide me with some entertainment.)

Paul Hewitt
15 Posted 21/09/2015 at 17:43:13
I wouldn't be surprised to see Moyes at Sunderland before Christmas.
Chris Gould
16 Posted 21/09/2015 at 17:49:10
Surprised by so much ill-feeling. Yes, he left under a cloud, but at least his parting gift was Stones, someone he signed when already knowing he was in line for the Man Utd job.

Also, he didn't do any worse than LVG in his first 50 games at Man Utd, and he spent considerably less.

He gave a lot to this club; yes, he got paid handsomely for his efforts, but I think he genuinely loved the club and gave it his all. More than we can say for some players.

Peter Gorman
17 Posted 21/09/2015 at 17:58:21
As well as making me ill, I'm feeling there is a lot of revisionism going on as well. Was Moyes any more boring a manager than his predecessor?

He might have been cautious but over time he made Everton a hell of a lot more exciting and let's be honest, Martinez is still playing with the team that Moyes built.

Graham Hammond
18 Posted 21/09/2015 at 18:53:49
Whilst I wish David Moyes no success whatsoever and was glad to see the back of him at our club, I would have to say that (to date at least) he was probably better in the transfer market than our current manager.

Martinez spent 㿕M on Lukaku and McCarthy, neither player has impressed me, particularly for that money! RM has just spent a further 㾺M on two players who (to date) are just warming the bench so far this season.

Eugene Ruane
19 Posted 21/09/2015 at 19:32:11
Peter (16) - Revisionism?

I don't think so.

Whatever he did or didn't 'achieve' as manager of Everton (which is subjective) he definitely treated us like shite almost as soon as he was out the door.

I'm (still) with Neville Southall.

"The joint bid stinks. The way David Moyes has gone about it stinks. The entire world knows Fellaini and Baines are worth a lot more than 㿈m and Moyes is disrespecting Everton. It’s despicable behaviour towards Everton and the fans. He shouldn’t go in with a stupid offer just to unsettle the players."

Given his Bertie big bollocks behaviour immediately after joining Utd, I see mild schadenfreude by Evertonians at any 'fall from grace' (ie: becoming El señor Bertrado pequño cojones) quite restrained.

Finlay Robin
20 Posted 21/09/2015 at 19:56:07
I personally doubt Moyes had much say in how much was bid but anyways he must have known it was going to ruin his relationship with Everton.

With regards to his tenure, I think he was the right man for us for several seasons and brought some degree of stability. he should have left maybe one or two years earlier.

I was kinda hoping he'd do well in Spain for some reason

Peter Mills
21 Posted 21/09/2015 at 20:27:00
Eugene, do you think the extra cash has made for better holidays for Davie and Morag?
Eugene Ruane
22 Posted 21/09/2015 at 20:54:09
Peter (20) - I think it'll still be Peebles but maybe he'll 'splash oot oan wan o' they big fancy golf umbrellas, tae keep the drizzle aff th' four of' us in wan go.'
Christy Ring
23 Posted 21/09/2015 at 21:12:27
I know he let us down badly in the end, especially over running down his contract, so we got no compensation from Man Utd, and the embarrassing offer for Fellaini & Baines.

But I still think back to when he replaced Walter Smith. Our team included Gazza, Ginola, Mark Hughes, Pembridge and Gough. That was some start to his managerial career. He had little money to spend, and look how far he brought us, and the players he left for Martinez to work with.
For that reason, I hope he gets more time at Sociedad.

Dave Ganley
24 Posted 21/09/2015 at 21:25:46
Well said, Christy. I don't think any Evertonian would be pleased with the way the exit was handled and also the derisory way he and Man Utd treated us with the Baines and Fellaini bids.

However, we also shouldn't forget the awful state we were in when he arrived. He gave us back our pride and also made us competitive again.

Consistent top 7 or better finishes was something we could only dream about at the turn of the century so for that alone he will have my thanks and hope he does make a go of it in Spain.

Peter Bell
25 Posted 21/09/2015 at 21:39:54
Christy, before singing the praises of Mr Moyes, let me just point out that both Mark Hughes and Richard Gough had well left Everton many moons before ginger arrived. Gazza left straight away without playing a game, and Ginola retired from football soon after.

The only one who he was left with on that list was Pembridge.

Christy Ring
26 Posted 21/09/2015 at 23:02:02
Peter (#24), I exaggerated a bit. He gave Gazza a free transfer and Ginola played 1 game, and he left in May. But it was a very weak squad, who were near the bottom of the league, when he took over. He transformed the club with little money to spend, with respect.
Derek Thomas
27 Posted 21/09/2015 at 23:20:14
There's a fair chance that this year he will be buying his fireworks somewhere in Northumberland.
Peter Gorman
28 Posted 22/09/2015 at 00:09:20
Eugene, the revisionism was in relation to the boring tag, hence I said in addition to the ill-feeling. Pretty sure there was a comment with stronger tones than expressed by Peter Barry but it has since disappeared into the ether. Either that or I am going mad.
Paul Kelly
29 Posted 22/09/2015 at 00:16:49
Treated us like shit on his shoe, hope he fails miserably in everything he does.

That's about as polite as I can be without getting my post pulled.

Andy Crooks
30 Posted 22/09/2015 at 00:34:37
Eugene, #21, great stuff. Writing accents that the eye picks up is someting special. Thank God you haven't heard mine.
Karl Masters
31 Posted 22/09/2015 at 03:42:36
Ridiculous that he's lined up for the sack after only 4 games and a GD of minus 3.

Moyes did a very good job at Everton, IMHO, whatever anybody says. With a Board who provided, in Premier League terms, a pittance to spend, we were always a match for anybody at Goodison and achieved top 6 or 7 most seasons. Before he arrived we finished something like 15th, 10th, 16th, 15th and we're heading for relegation that season he arrived in March.

I totally agree he spoilt that by acting the way he did and the Baines / Fellaini saga did him no favours although it's Woodward that does the bidding, not the Coach at Manure.

Some of his football was boring to watch, but not as boring as the coma inducing rubbish Roberto subjected us to last season.

On balance, I wish him well, but not to beat Everton or manage a team coming above us in the League!

Steve Jenkins
32 Posted 22/09/2015 at 05:30:16
David "down play expectations, negativity" Moyes.

Did a good job transforming the team & squad, but felt he should have moved on a good few years before he did were everything just felt stale.

There were worse managers for us and worse times but his "downplaying expectation" interviews, and negative attitude was overwhelming and just made me feel we were going nowhere, left me feeling depressed about the club, in the same way now the board do.

His "knife to a gunfight" attitude, particularly when it came to derbies used to annoy me something beyond.

I used to wonder what our players would be thinking with his high praise interviews of Liverpool players, and our players "will do their best but their not on their level" comments about our players.

All to downplay expectations on himself. Much prefer a man that won't hide behind that.

I loved Royle's attitude in Derbies, full of confidence and belief which obviously fed through to the players, and from it we got some great results.

Big Dunc's first derby and goal, and the Anfield derby where AK scored 2 are particular favourites of mine, the latter even more so, as I was sitting in the Anfield Road that day. What a great day that was!


Guy Hastings
33 Posted 22/09/2015 at 06:42:59
Never better than as Lucius Vorenus.
Erik Dols
34 Posted 22/09/2015 at 07:34:04
Guy Hastings #33 thank you. I totally forgot about that show. First time I saw it I was 100% sure that Moyes started an acting career.

I think that, about five minutes into the first episode, Polly Walker walked in, naked. I was sold right away.

Erik Dols
35 Posted 25/09/2015 at 14:23:51
Moyes won his away game at Granada with 3-0 last night. If he wins the derby against Bilbao this weekend he will be safe for a few weeks at least.
Eugene Ruane
37 Posted 25/09/2015 at 15:53:53
3-0 away win?

Sings: "Senor David Moyes, Senor David Moyes, su pelo es de color rojo, y no nos importa, Senor David Moyes"

Type stuff..os

Dave Abrahams
38 Posted 27/09/2015 at 21:30:28
Moyes's team have just drawn 0-0 at home.
Gerry Quinn
39 Posted 27/09/2015 at 22:10:50
Next Newcastle manager - or, could be the Redshite!
Ross Edwards
40 Posted 27/09/2015 at 22:34:04
A 0-0 draw for Senor Moyes tonight. Dull, boring, functional and devoid of creativity. Sums him up perfectly.

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