McAleny ends Charlton loan early

It is a shame but if another manager is not using him and also questioning his attitude, I think his days with us are numbered.

You would hope so anyway; cause a bad attitude at 23 doesn't bode well.

Wallace is playing for Sheff Utd now. Some of his goals can be seen on the old youtube when he was playing for Tranmere.

Players in defence I thought would make it were Mark Hughes Jr and Sean O'Hanlon, the former is having a career amongst League 1 and 2, the latter a former MK Dons stalwart who had a brief spell in the Scotch premier league with Hibs, but since then things have picked up a bit and he is currently in our conference with Stockport.

On the other hand, I thought Keith Southern would have an obscure career but he ended up in the Prem with Blackpool, which goes to show you never can tell (or maybe just that I can never really tell).

I remember Gary Kelly went on a pre-season tour to Ireland as a teenager, back up right winger. Two right backs, one was Mel Sterland, were injured and he got a chance at right back. A lucky break which he took and went on to play hundreds of games for Leeds at right back.

I remember Peter Clarke the young CB who got quite a few caps for England U21s but then never stepped it up. Tricky little John Paul Kissock and of course wonder kid Jose Baxter. The truth is that if they get a few hundred games at Championship level then they will have done very well.

Competition and pressure is so fierce these days but at least our club does give youngsters the odd chance here and there, unlike Chelsea etc.

George whatever you think of Liddle, the point Frank makes is valid. Fraeye is almost unknown in Belgium and for a team like Charlton to take him as manager is strange to say the least. To give him one of our assets to develop may not have been the best thing for him.

And then went nowhere. Literally. He is playing for Tamworth via Hereford, Chester and Barrow.

I had to laugh at the title 'interim manager' especially as I heard recently the average tenure of managers in the Premier League is 15 months. They are all Interim.

He's been at the club along time. Bad attitude... bollocks – scapegoat, you mean. Martinez has an attitude problem, oh sorry! A communication problem – in other words, talks a load of Shite.

George Mackane, what's with this 'scouser' shite. I'm a scouser and proud of it. Words don't mean agreat deal in life but actions do, George. See you down the Lion haha.

He did have Messers Sharp, Gray and Heath ahead of him but never heard anything of him once he left. Wonder kids flourish at a young age. Pros flourish as men.

I hope the boy (still only 19) can conquer these personal issues, whatever they are, and do justice to the massive potential he once had.

Prior to that tremendous occasion, I had heard stories about his remarkable goalscoring ability in the Central League so I made a special trip to see him play.

He scored a truly outstanding goal by flicking the ball over a close marking defender, repeated the same against another before sweetly volleying past the keeper. I thought wow! this lad is a world class talent.

His name was Mike Trebilcock but his star sparkled but briefly. Though he quickly faded into obscurity, he still holds a place in my too short list of Everton heros.

I realise that he has only recently been appointed, John, I was making the point to George that Fraeye was anything but a manager capable of returning Charlton to the level they only recently played at. The fact that he has sent McAleny back "to prove a point", possibly at the expense of his own team, reeks of poor management.

George, Liddle can piss you off with some of his anti-Merseyside jibes but he can also be quite cutting in his comments in general, also dosed with humour, and not always at our club. (He gives the RS loads....and Thatcher.)

Funny how the use of "Scouser" is almost always derogatory these days, usually following "thieving", at least on the BBC, that is.

Defenders also need to be special. All footballers need that something that us Saturday morning plodders don't have. But I repeat, especially strikers.

There is a very good living to be made playing in the lower leagues. I have relations who played football to a good standard. They all earned a decent living wage. Conor McAleny needs to think about that. Not every footballer is going to be Premier League quality. From what I have seen of McAleny, he will never start ahead of Naismith or Mirallas. Not to even mention Kone or the big man..

We have had some very promising youngsters, even back in those days, flattering to decieve. Alan Whittle for one. Sold on before his Everton career kicked off. And the oldies (like me) will remember a certain Gerry Humphries. He scored a bucket load of goals in the old Central (Reserve) League. But only managed a few first team games.

And is Danny Cadamateri still playing? Not just a new thing, "strikers not making the grade" at Everton. It's being going on for years. Young Wakenshaw is another that has just sprung to mind.

Looks like he could be another one that leaves and drops down the leagues. I'm sure he could make a career for himself down in league 1 or even up north at a club like Hibs under Stubbsy?!

So it's only the Aqueros or even Vardys of the world (and incidentally Woy wants him to play wide left) and Sturridge that flourish in the EPL. He needs to play in a system that plays with 2 up top, who knows maybe it'll come back into fashion some day.

Anyhoo

Martinez seemed to have some luck playing McAleny in a deeper role - almost like Osman. I wonder if he is more of a goal-scoring attacking midfielder.

I'm not sure how he'd break into the Everton first team right now but he should be able to do a decent job somewhere.

McAleny was due to come back after 1 more game anyway.

It may not be a case of attitude problems. Maybe he was asked to extend the loan and he said no thanks???

It seems strange that players who, at their home club don't appear to have any problems, seem to suddenly develop issues regarding attitude and discipline when they go away. It doesn't make sense.

I think Joe Royle was appointed to liaise with the loan clubs and to monitor the loanees' progress. Does he or anyone do that?

When they come back to Everton, does anyone check to see what actually happened and help the lads pick up the pieces so that they can resume where they left off?

I know that Roberto is the manager but do we have anyone specifically in charge of youth development?

It is such a pity that the Central League (the Reserves) was done away with. It gave youth a chance to test their mettle against seasoned pros.

Conor McAleny must have shown reasons for this new managers stance, and reasoning to send him back to us. One game to go, or 2 months to go. it's more about McAleny than the manager.

Hyperthetically, if the manger calls each individual player in to see him, you go in with one week left to go, are you going to pay lip service to a David Brent-style motivation test?

I think the public comments speak more of Fraeye's attitude than McAleny's - at least I hope so. Many of the players mentioned I thought would make an impact, and I was impressed with his preseason form.

Mind you the conference is a horrible league at time, where skilfull players can really get lost at times. There was a time I wondered if Chester should get some kind of link up with Everton to get youngsters on loan, with the Martinez link, but I think it is too low a level and would not benefit either party.