Jagielka and Baines likely to be overlooked by Hodgson

That'll be just Stones and Barkley then.

And as Liam says Lets let some one elses defenders be blamed for when it all goaes wrong.

As much as its a shame for them it's common sense really.

With my Italian and Irish 'both sides' family, I think I will support them.

Also surprised, considering that the English squad isn't exactly flush with top class CBs.

So do the Leicester players, so all their English players should go, should they?

You can no longer class a player's worth or ability on what they have won, for example David 'where did he go?' Luise, or the two carthorse centre-halves at Man City.

Phil Jagielka not going to France but Chris Smalling will be...

Don't get me started on Clyne.

Hodgson subscribes to having his favourites and picking flash in the pans: Welbeck, Clyde, the up and coming young 28-next-month Lallana, Wilshere, Walcott, Gibbs, Townsend, Sterling...

I'm sure there is some embryo striker in the Manure squad he's already lining up to debut after scoring one goal next season...

Barkley could do with the rest too, he's played far too often this season when being taken out the team now and again would have benefited him and anyone of our fringe players like Deulofeu, Mirallas, Dowell etc.

For Stones, and us, it could of course go two ways; it's anyone's guess which one will turn up – the Bobby Moore version or the Bobby Davro one!

Unfortunately Baines hasn't been the same player since he signed his last contract in 2013. Hopefully he gets a full pre-season and is ready from the off.

Stones and Barkley will in all likelihood be the only 2 in the squad if as expected Woy only takes 7 defenders and Jags misses out. Baines has seen too many other left backs over take him in the pecking order for him to stand any chance of making the squad. Danny Rose will probably be 1st choice LB and I don't think you can argue with that as he's had an excellent season with Spurs.

Cahill and Smalling will get the nod ahead of Stones. All the media scrutiny on him this season hasn't helped and all the hype surrounding Barkley as the best English talent since Gazza circa Italia 90 will be seen for what it is ... hot air. In my opinion, Barkley is lucky to be anywhere near the England squad. Dele Alli is twice the player. How you can be an international midfielder when you can't tackle, you don't chase back, you never look up and your decision making is as bad as anything I've seen in a football pitch is frankly beyond me!!!

I'm expecting the usual disappointing early exit from England and a green and white party from the Republic of Ireland. I know which one I prefer!!!

If it's form their picked on then Stones ane Ross shouldn't be considered either. However it will be interesting to see how they play under a different manager.

I have not watched a England game in years.

I do think Jagielka is still one of the best, but why would you choose half of one of the worst defensive outfits in the Premiership? I would always choose winners, not losers...

But then you know he'll pick people like Phil Jones and Jordan Henderson to go who are rubbish. There's no way the likes of Phil Jones so be picked ahead of them to go to the Euros so really they should get the nod in that case.

Don't get me wrong Roy has demonstrated a genuine interest in some of the countries younger talent but it's too media driven.

I can understand Baines not going but not to take Jags is disgraceful. As for Stones and Barkley, they are 2 totally different players away from the shackles of this clown of a manager, so they'll probably flourish and enjoy the occasion.

Why the contempt for the competitions you've listed?

Are you one of the "if Everton aren't in it I don't care" crowd?

Jags is unlucky to miss out. He's played a lot for Roy and also been decent this season. I think it's the 'last ditch' nature of his defending rather than 'anticipating danger' style that hinders him. Terrific Premier League player but international class? I'm not so sure

That said, Cahill and Smalling aren't great either and I think Jags IS the 3rd best English centre-back. Better than Stones. I feel a bit sorry for him.

Stones has had a joke of a season and Barkley, despit his assists goes missing for long periods in games. But the medjia seems to pick the side so they're both in. Admittedly they seem to play better in a different team....wonder why that is.

Feel sorry for Jags and Baines but they have not been good enough to merit a place. Tbh I never really thought Jagielka was international standard anyway (then again Cahill isn't either imo).

Are United and Chelsea Sky clubs (whatever that means)? Neither are in the top four. How could this happen?

How have Baines and Jagielka every played for England? How are Barkley and Stone still playing for them?

The paranoia had died down on ToffeeWeb recently.

So you are OK with Cahill going are you? Multi-million-pound squad Chelsea have conceded one less goal than Everton.

Also, a very poor Man Utd, 'and have been for two seasons at least,' – You would take Jones And Smalling?

Liverpool conceded one less than Everton but it's okay to take their players? What exactly is your criteria for squad choices again?

As I've said already, if using the method of form picking a player, most of the England squad would not be picked.

Liverpool under performed, Chelsea, so bad they got the manager sacked, 'oh hang on, so did Liverpool,' Man Utd another very poor season, so on your ideas of 'still' thinking Englands squad is picked on form alone,' almost all of the players in the teams I've mentioned should not be picked.

Rose and Baines for left back slot. Smalling, Cahill, Jags and Stones (can't see him getting a game) at centre half.

I feel the Euros have come at a bad time for Baines, idiots have moved quickly to write him of due to his injury. IMO, Baines is by far the best English left full back.

Jags is a 100% type of guy and deserves a lot more recognition than he gets, he's undoubtedly one of the best English centre-back and IMO he's in form, especially if his competition is Cahill.

Also when he took 7 defenders wasn't that because he had Phil Jones covering multiple positions. The only way he takes 7 is if Stones covers RB so Jags might still get in. Or he may think that Dier (a donkey of a player) covers CB?