Reports claim Koeman close to Everton deal

by | 02/06/2016  248 Comments  [Jump to last]

Updated Ronald Koeman's return from holiday has ratcheted up media talk of Everton's pursuit for him, with Dutch media claiming that the Southampton boss is close to becoming the Blues' new manager.

The Mirror had claimed late last night that Farhad Moshiri and Chairman Bill Kenwright planned to hold further talks with potential candidates from their six-person shortlist in the coming days and were hopeful of tempting Koeman to Merseyside with the prospect of big wages and a sizeable transfer kitty.

That was echoed by similar reports in the Netherlands, with De Telegraaf saying essentially the same thing, suggesting that Moshiri "will stop at nothing" to land Koeman.

Marcel van der Kraan from the Dutch paper told Sky Sports: "Koeman is the man Mr [Farhad] Moshiri [Everton's owner], really wants and he's made that clear. The next 24 hours could be very decisive. If I was putting my money on anything, it would be on Koeman heading north."

Koeman's availability now that he is back from a post-season break in the Caribbean, both for for face-to-face talks with the Blues' hierarchy and with the Southampton board, means that resolution of his future should come fairly quickly now that he is back in the country.

Now, Dutch journalist Tim de Wit of NOS has sparked a frenzy of speculation today with a tweet suggesting that Koeman and his new agent Rob Jansen were travelling up to Liverpool today for negotiations:

"Ronald Koeman is close to signing as coach of Everton. With agent Rob Jansen en route to Liverpool."

With Everton's decision-makers based in London, that would be somewhat surprising but betting has been suspended by some bookies on Koeman becoming the new Blues' boss as reports of the 53-year-old's talks with the Goodison hierarchy spread in the Netherlands. Voetbal International have since made their own claim that Koeman will take the reins at Everton in the coming days, with ESPN sources also claiming an agreement is imminent.

BBC South Reports, Lewis Coombes, meanwhile, says that there has been no word from Koeman's agent and that he would be very surprised if he left Southampton for Goodison this summer.

The news comes just a day after rampant speculation that Everton were targeting an ambitious managerial ticket of Unai Emery and Monchi, the duo behind Sevilla's three successive Europa League triumphs.

According to the Liverpool Echo, however, Monchi could still be part of the equation, with Moshiri having identified the 47-year-old as his pick for director of football at Everton. It's a setup that would suit Koeman who has been working under director of development, Les Reed, at Southampton.  


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Kunal Desai
1 Posted 02/06/2016 at 07:37:33
Mirror talking shite. They wouldn't be interviewing in the coming days. The interviewing has already been done. I'd imagine the managerial announcement may well be made by th weekend.
Sam Hoare
2 Posted 02/06/2016 at 07:48:33
No-one has a clue!!

I'm hoping for the Emery-Monchi dream team but ready now for the merry-go-round to end soon. Hoping we have something in place within the next week.

Lee Whitehead
4 Posted 02/06/2016 at 08:54:46
If Koeman does eventually become the "chosen one" I hope he doesn't bring that "Fat little kopite" with him.
Phil Walling
5 Posted 02/06/2016 at 09:01:41
You mean that Everton reps have been on holiday with Koeman in the Caribean, Kunal?

More likely that 'our people' have been talking to 'his people', don't you think, as direct contact with a contracted manager without permission is prohibited.

I imagine that interviews with Pelligrini and Moyes HAVE taken place although permission to talk to the other names mentioned is awaited.

As the Editor said a week ago, we need to be patient.

Paul Kennedy
6 Posted 02/06/2016 at 09:28:06
Knowing us, all the speculation of top managers then to a great drum roll... drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr:

"Our New manager – Mr David Moyes!"

And the end of my 53-year association with Everton.

No, it was just a nightmare

Brian Harrison
7 Posted 02/06/2016 at 09:34:14
Phil,

I guess when SAF invited Moyes round for a chat months before the end of his contract, this wasn't a breach according to the FA.

Mind, whether the discussions are via his agent or with Koeman himself, it looks like he is our main target. So that suggests to me that Moshiri is the man heading up the quest for a new manager. He obviously knows who he wants and knows in all situations money talks.

David Chait
8 Posted 02/06/2016 at 09:39:13
Don't know why, but not excited about the prospect of Koeman. Think someone on GOT nailed: the Dutch David Moyes.

If not Emery, still FdB or Pellegrini for me.

Paul Kelly
9 Posted 02/06/2016 at 09:59:27
Nobody knows sweet FA.
Ian Burns
10 Posted 02/06/2016 at 10:04:55
I must admit to a real sense of disappointment if this turns out to be our top target, as for me Emery/Monchi; De Boer/Overmars (not to mention the untouchable Simeone) would have got the pulse racing. Somehow Koeman just doesn't get my bells ringing.

At the outset, Koeman for Martinez was an exciting step up but having suffered (enjoyed) the recent anticipation of such as Emery/Monchi etc, Koeman now seems a bit of a let down, as I think he will be using us as a stepping stone to Barcelona.

Mike Hughes
11 Posted 02/06/2016 at 10:16:49
I'm steeling myself for the Moyes-Martinez Presbyterian-Samba Alliance.
Gareth Clark
12 Posted 02/06/2016 at 10:17:33
If we take Koeman, there is no doubt Southampton will replace him with De Boer!
Dave Williams
13 Posted 02/06/2016 at 10:52:05
Koeman is a funny one because like Ian and David above it doesn't get me excited and I can't figure out why.

He has done fantastically well with Southampton, buys good players and organises well and has the advantage of knowing the Premier League which the other favourites don't.

I still can't convince myself but it is probably just that he is a less glitzy signing but a safer bet not to crash and burn in his first year but still has the potential to succeed and win stuff.

He'd be a good appointment but offer me Simeone, Emery or De Boer and...............

Christopher Timmins
14 Posted 02/06/2016 at 11:40:32
When 1 July arrives with no appointment we can settle down to Rhino and Big Joe being in control!
Peter Laverty
15 Posted 02/06/2016 at 11:42:28
Koeman is odds on now at 1/2 in some places.
Robert Elliott
17 Posted 02/06/2016 at 11:58:23
A Dutch news correspondent named Tim De Wit has just put on Twitter that Koeman and his agent are currently on their way to Liverpool to discuss/agree terms. Not picked up anywhere else that I can see and Koeman still odds against in the betting which seems odd.
Gareth Clark
18 Posted 02/06/2016 at 12:01:36
He isn't as exciting - and this is because he is the safest option.

The other options- we don't know how they'll do in the prem. Optimists feel they will razzle dazzle - but they could crash and burn.

It would be very interesting if Southamton got De Boer and we got Koeman... Then we might live to regret it, or know we made the right choice

Interesting and exciting times, the suspense is killing me!

Peter Hennessey
19 Posted 02/06/2016 at 12:05:29
I'd put a tenner on Neil Warnock at this rate........
Peter Hennessey
20 Posted 02/06/2016 at 12:11:19
Owen Coyle; we could snatch him from under Blackburn's noses!
Mark Ryan
21 Posted 02/06/2016 at 12:13:41
Gareth @ 9 you are so spot on. I said after the FA Cup that Blind would be first out of Man Utd and mark my words, if we take Koeman just watch De Boer et al land at Southampton and see Blind his first signing...

Why Emery? FdB for me since the day he put his hat in the ring. He wants to prove himself, Koeman does not. He has already pretty much said "No thanks". No point waving cash in his face. Go with with FdB and if he fails, sack him.

I'm not after a Wenger who wants to stay for 20 years. I want a hungry manager. Give Frank a go. Don't go for the man that wants the most money.

Unai Emery?? who the fuck is he, Martinez in disguise. He looks like Count Dracula. Is it just me or is there a big problem with taking FdB??

James McPherson
22 Posted 02/06/2016 at 12:18:13
Robert (12) - seems bogus...the name maybe a give away...Tim De Wit....Tim the wit? A prankster perhaps?
Andrew Clare
23 Posted 02/06/2016 at 12:19:20
Interesting to see how the Southampton fans view this http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/2/833371686?-11192:825:0
Robert Elliott
24 Posted 02/06/2016 at 12:23:10
Could well be James. Now on Oddschanger's Twitter page and some dropping in Koeman's odds (now odds on with some) but they could all be feeding off the same thing I guess.
Paul Tran
25 Posted 02/06/2016 at 12:23:34
Tim De Wit is the UK & Ireland correspondent for NOS-Nieuws. A genuine journalist, so there's either plenty in this, or his sources have let him down.
James McPherson
26 Posted 02/06/2016 at 12:25:34
For me, Koeman was my number one choice, until he said he was happy at Soton. If it is cash that's the principle lure, that's a concern. I agree on De Boer superseding him on the grounds of desire and hunger. Never taken to Emery or Pellegrini.
Paul Black
27 Posted 02/06/2016 at 12:26:49
Rob, 12

The odds on Koeman at Sky Bet are now 5/4
BV are now 1

James McPherson
28 Posted 02/06/2016 at 12:27:21
Paul thank you for the clarification - my knowledge of international journalists needs to improve! We live in a cynical age and we are Evertonians! Classic case of 2+2 = 5 based on experience! Cheers again
Tom Bowers
29 Posted 02/06/2016 at 12:28:04
So Mourinho has said he is shipping out Blind and that may mean he is coming after Stones again ???
Paul Tran
30 Posted 02/06/2016 at 12:34:46
Cheers James, always good to mix cynicism with hope. Koeman's the safe up and coming candidate (if that's what we want?) who clearly spent last week saying 'the right things' while under contract.

I love the way we've gone about this so far, I remember we lost Bobby Robson coming in as manager due to a leak to the press. The fact that journalists and bookies are scratching around for clues tells me this is being done the right way.

Robert Elliott
31 Posted 02/06/2016 at 12:35:52
According to the Echo there are more reports in Holland of Koeman "cutting ties" with Southampton. Maybe the Emery talk scared him a little. Funny the Moyes rumours didn't have the same effect?!
John Daley
32 Posted 02/06/2016 at 12:41:38
"......seems bogus...the name maybe a give away...Tim De Wit....Tim the wit? A prankster perhaps?"

...,and the prize for best Adam West impersonation goes to....

Patrick Murphy
33 Posted 02/06/2016 at 12:45:22
Ronald Koeman is about to swap Southampton for Everton. The manager and his agent Rob Jansen on his way to Liverpool to complete the deal.

So says Tim White, correspondent for the NIS in the UK on Twitter.

Robert Elliott
34 Posted 02/06/2016 at 12:47:35
Imagine how gutted Koeman would be if he gets here and then realises Moshiri's used him to give Emery a kick up the arse to take the job!
James McPherson
35 Posted 02/06/2016 at 12:47:50
Thank you John Daley!!! Please do leave me to stew in my own embarrassment! Since being put right by Paul Tran...I have been having a word with myself...
John Louis Jones
36 Posted 02/06/2016 at 12:55:42
I really don't want him. His CV is not great, Yea, he has done OK with Southampton; he completely fucked up with Valencia, finished 3rd with Benfica in a two-horse race. Massively overrated.

Then you have Sammy Lee... the last thing you want is that RS on our touchline.

Alan J Thompson
37 Posted 02/06/2016 at 12:59:29
Why would they have to go to Liverpool to finalise a deal when Kenwright and, I assume, Moshiri both live in London? Surely the photo shoot could be done at another time.
John Louis Jones
39 Posted 02/06/2016 at 13:03:54
It was like this last night on twitter about Monchi and Emery. there is bugger all on SSN and we all know that they like to be in the Know, as soon as they got whisper that Martinez was going the had a reporter stood out side finch farm.

Also guys, Morshi live in Monaco for Tax reasons would he not interview in Monaco? As I think the 90 Days a year rule applies.

Iain Latchford
40 Posted 02/06/2016 at 13:04:26
Whatever you think of Pellegrini his CV is far more impressive than Koeman's. Took Villarreal to 2nd and the CL semi final. Took Malaga to 4th and CL quarter final (two injury goals by Dortmund cost them a place in the semi). Won the league and both cups with City in 3 seasons (2nd and 4th in his other two seasons), plus CL semi final.

I know the City achievements have to be taken in context of the players and money he had, but he still did it. Keeping a "big" side at the top isn't as easy as it sounds. Just ask LVG, Mourinho or even Wenger.

James McPherson
41 Posted 02/06/2016 at 13:20:06
John Louis Jones 31 – agree, there's nothing anywhere remotely corroborating why there's speculation on Koeman today... bookies having a field day – could even question their involvement in what's happening to the betting market.
Patrick Murphy
42 Posted 02/06/2016 at 13:20:51
It seems that no matter what information is posted and admittedly, none of it is what can be described as cast iron, there are those who want to refute any such rumours almost before they are written.

May I advise them that reading anything that isn't a fact is by it's very nature conjecture, hearsay and gossip and perhaps they should avoid all media and Everton related sites until the new guy has signed on the dotted line and wait for the ink to dry. There may be lots of games being played by agents and all of the parties involved for a variety of reasons and perhaps that is why there is a counter rumour to each story as it appears in the press.

if we want to see Everton as a big club again, these are the sort of things we had better get used to. Wait until the new manager is in place and watch as the transfer rumour mill goes into meltdown, that will really test the patience of some as we miss out on certain players but attract others, but this time we won't be competing with Sunderland et al but with some of the bigger hitters.

Andy Osborne
43 Posted 02/06/2016 at 13:21:08
I think we are in a good position. As I have said before, I would be happy with any of Pellegrini, de Boer, Emry or Koeman. They all have their plus points, but they all have their down sides too. Any one of them would be a step in right direction for us (in my opinion).Are any of them going to be the manager that wins the league or a European cup for us? Probably not, but they will be good for the next few years while we rebuild our reputation.

Also, I'd rather have Koeman now, than Emry later. We need to get a move on planning for next season.

Paul Thompson
44 Posted 02/06/2016 at 13:23:34
Something clearly going on here with Koeman. I suspect that he is seen as a safer bet because of his Premier League experience. I'm less worried and would prefer Emery (or even Pellegrini), but I can see the logic and would still be a good appointment.
Paul Black
45 Posted 02/06/2016 at 13:25:37
Koemans now 1/2 on Sky Bet
Kerry Frahm
46 Posted 02/06/2016 at 13:29:55
With all the expertise and knowledge that I have as an Aussie, living in a small country town, obtaining the majority of my Everton updates through twitter, this learned site and whatever drivel ESPN happen to publish, I have to say I have a hunch that FDB and his entourage are the guys that would really do a great job at restoring belief and success to our club! Koeman feels too greedy, Emery and Pellegrini feel too risky and Moyes feels just absolutely bloody ridiculous!
Get FDB and his team in place now and let them scour the Euros etc. for some goodies!
John Louis Jones
47 Posted 02/06/2016 at 13:30:15
Again it starts though on twitter this has just been posted. Ermery was 5/4 last night. Evertonian ‏@skbytes 11m Madrid, España

#Everton been told to free both #SevilleFC #Emery - #Monchi from there contracts it will take 8 million euro's, 3 Mil Emery, 5 Mil Monchi

Andy Osborne
48 Posted 02/06/2016 at 13:30:31
If Koeman is on his way, will we go ahead with a director of football role? I get the impression that Koeman wants full control, but maybe I'm wrong. The Sammy Lee thing is a bit interesting. Add spice to the whole scenario.
James McPherson
49 Posted 02/06/2016 at 13:35:27
Paul Black - each of the candidates have been odds on at some stage. The bookies seem to "follow" or "create" (allegedly) a market where people pile in only for the favourite to be duly rotated...I don't bet...times like this remind me why.
Iain Latchford
50 Posted 02/06/2016 at 13:36:26
Koeman odds dropping rapidly with the bookies. Best you can get is evens. Next is Emery who is out as far as 8/1 now.

John Daley
51 Posted 02/06/2016 at 13:36:34
I certainly woudn't be crying at the thought of Koeman coming in. The job he's done at Southampton the last couple of years, under difficult circumstances, stands up against almost any other manager in the league. When he first arrived, Southampton were considered to be in full on meltdown after flogging most of their first-team and were many people's favourites for the drop. He took it in his stride, replaced those who had left with a minimum of fuss and led the club to their highest premier league finish. One year later he was again stripped of a number of prize assets and repeated the same feat again. Not only has he improved the squad with a number of astute signings, but he's done so with a pretty sizeable negative spend.

Might not be a lot of glamour attached to those accomplishments but, when you consider a similar exodus of players from Everton could be on the cards this close season, then you can see why Koeman might be an attractive option for those at the top.

Kieran Kinsella
52 Posted 02/06/2016 at 13:42:30
Why is he driving to Merseyside? Long way from Soton. Doesn't he have a helicopter? Sure he loves a long drive after getting back from vacation. Or it could be bs from Tim de Twit
Kieran Kinsella
53 Posted 02/06/2016 at 13:45:04
Irrelevant but interesting placement of related (?) headlines on bbcnews

Monk going to Leeds
Monk arrested for smuggling tigers

Is he trying to get Hulls best?

Gareth Clark
54 Posted 02/06/2016 at 13:57:03
Looking at Koemans record - he has coached at a lot of clubs over the years and has a very good record.

He has proved himself in the prem, with a team that losses key players every season.
Frank De Boer has a very good record, but has only coached in one league for one team.


Bring him in - he'll sort everything out when he wants to go to Barca, we will be a lot better off, and can move onto someone exciting - like De Boer is now.

I'd be very very very happy! As long as he keeps Stones and Barkley.

He is exactly what we need! A safe, yet very promising and exciting option.

Nick Entwistle
55 Posted 02/06/2016 at 13:58:35
Theory based on nothing but watching TV...

There's a good comedy series in the States called Silicon Valley. Its about a start up tech company and its story lines are based on real life events that have happened in the industry yet played out in this one company.

So anyways, the company's young founder Richard, is sacked as CEO by the board of directors. After a series of events he is to replace his replacement and put back in charge.

So why is this important? Well ToffeeWebbers have been talking about cloak and dagger stuff, that its all very strange the public courting etc going on and on.

To quote from the programme when someone asks the board director with most voting power why she is interviewing candidates when she will be reinstating Richard, she answers...

'I'm publicly courting some outstanding candidates and some not so outstanding candidates, to give the impression that Richard is not the most expedient choice, but the right choice.'

As Moshiri got his way sacking Martinez, it may be Bill will get his way with Moyes and the above is an example of managing perceptions.

So take note of that nonsense... and do with it what you will

James McPherson
56 Posted 02/06/2016 at 14:07:09
Worth remembering that many of us have stated that a new manager is just one (yes, significant) component of a raft of changes that are needed at a club which, though we love it, has retrenched and become stale and mediocre in its outlook.

I would hope that any manager, whomsoever he may be, will say at his press conference announcement that the clincher to his joining was the fantastic changes that lay ahead for this great club... that would I hope include a statement on Moshiri fully taking over, Kenwright stepping down, and a stadium on the waterfront. Without the root and branch changes occurring, nothing much will dramatically improve.

Paul Black
57 Posted 02/06/2016 at 14:15:08
James 46

I couldn't agree with you more.

It was simply a case of, 'just saying' but he does seem to be lot more tactically savvy than his Dutch counterpart with EPL experience and not known - or as well known - for playing slow, possession based footy from the back which frightens the queer stuff out of me, he gets my vote over RDB.

Ideally, it would be Simeone but realistically none of us have any other choice than to wait.

Not easy is it James?

Let's hope all the waiting will be worth it in the end but one thing - and the only thing we know - it has to be better than what we had before as long as it's not someone who like RDB and the cut price Catalan, knows how to change things if it ain't working.

Andrew Ellams
58 Posted 02/06/2016 at 14:27:03
Koeman did a lot more than just plug the gaps left by players that moved on, he improved the squad.

The RS bought Lambert, Lovren and Lallana, he replaced them with Van Dijk, Pelle and Tadic. He's no mug in the transfer market.

Kevin Tully
59 Posted 02/06/2016 at 14:28:11
Won't be unhappy with Koeman if we manage to land him. He's got something like a 47% win rate in the PL, which is impressive at a club that has sold players without any resistance. (Sammy Lee though??)

Just the fact that we have gone to the manager of a club who finished 5th and sold our vision to him gives me great hope for the future. A move like this shows we have something tangible to offer any prospective manager. He seems well respected and has managed to bring in a few good signings in his time.

It seems safe to say he will do well at Everton if he makes the move North. Good stuff.

Paul Tran
60 Posted 02/06/2016 at 14:30:01
Interesting observations, Nick. Would be a logically devious method of Bill installing his man and genuinely/falsely using that logic to justify the decision he'd already made.

I've got the impression Moshiri at least wants to explore 'better' alternatives before going for the 'expedient' one.

Let's see what he does.

Phil Martin
61 Posted 02/06/2016 at 14:33:43
@Nick #52 I posted the exact same scenario on a different thread about an hour ago. This could quite simply be another BK stage managed production (with the predictably underwhelming ending).
John Daley
62 Posted 02/06/2016 at 14:33:55
"He seems well respected and has managed to bring in a few good signings in his time"

He knows how to get the crowd going as well...

Link

Kevin Tully
63 Posted 02/06/2016 at 14:39:07
Heheh - That's definitely a blood relation JD!
Tony Draper
64 Posted 02/06/2016 at 14:43:21
Nick @47.
Mate, that theory seems every bit as plausible as any other that I've read and to your credit you at least state that it's based in comedy.
Liam Reilly
65 Posted 02/06/2016 at 14:46:22
I can't get excited all all about Koeman. He looks to me like another Moyes; happy to stay in the top 6 or 7 and that's enough. He's not done too great with the clubs where he should be competing.

1 Copa Del Rey and 1 Dutch title since 2004 doesn't exactly shout WINNER. Also picked up a nice 6-1 home spanking by the RS in his tenor at Southampton.

I fear a regret if he comes to Goodison and De Boer ends up at Southampton.

Gordon Crawford
66 Posted 02/06/2016 at 14:52:20
Koeman I'm not sure about either. I would rather go for Emery.
Will it be sorted by this weekend???? I don't know. But it needs to be sorted by next weekend as the Euro's start and it would give the new manager a chance to watch potential new signings.
Ian Cowhig
67 Posted 02/06/2016 at 14:52:38
I am sure I read an article saying that Everton were set to have further meetings with the six people that they were considering for the manager's job. So Based upon that Koeman is having his (jumps to odds on), followed by Pellegrini (who then becomes favourite), then Moyes (back to favourite, TW server fails under extreme panic from Evertonians).

We should just wait for the announcement of a news conference. But unfortunately the plots and sub plots are addictive. Got to go away for an hour. Back for my next fix then.

Nick Entwistle
68 Posted 02/06/2016 at 15:02:03
True Tony, but like I say, the programme bases its story lines on real life events in the industry.

Though they knew him to be the right choice they didn't want the industry to perceive him as the expedient one to maintain their reputation.

I don't say that as a Moyes fan, it just covers the 'lazy' option that Matinez was labelled last time an appointment was made.

Andrew Clare
69 Posted 02/06/2016 at 15:06:55
Unai Emery and his colleagues for me. I love the passionate animated types and with Emery not only do you get that but you get a great tactical brain as well.

Koeman is not a bad choice but I worry like others that money will be his main motivation for joining us rather than the exciting prospect of awakening a sleeping giant.

Chris Gould
70 Posted 02/06/2016 at 15:07:52
Liam, what makes you think Koeman is happy to finish 6th-7th? Saints finished just 3 points off Man City in 4th place. A bloody good effort for a team on a tiny budget in comparison.

Moyes also did well on a relatively small budget, but there is a massive difference between the two men. Koeman was a winner as a player. He played for big clubs and was an elite player. Moyes wasn't. Koeman's mentality will be very different. I think Koeman would be a fantastic appointment.

Paul Tran
71 Posted 02/06/2016 at 15:13:57
The bookies don't know what's going on, so they'll respond to Twitter, the Rumour Mill... TW? by shortening the odds of one candidate accordingly. This week it's Koeman's go. Wouldn't dream of having a bet on this contest, though the 8/1 I got on Stubbs leaving Hibs went down well!
Oscar Huglin
72 Posted 02/06/2016 at 15:16:15
Koeman would be a solid appointment. Premier League experience and a genuine class act. Exciting times if the rumours are true.
Chris Gould
73 Posted 02/06/2016 at 15:21:49
Andrew, money is a big factor for anyone already settled at another club. It's a big wrench dragging your family from one City or country to another. Especially if you're appreciated where you are. I think people take it for granted, but it's a massive risk for someone who is settled and happy. Not to mention the fact that wives get a big say and that children may be very happy in their current schools.
You have to make the risk, heartache, and aggravation worth their while.
You can't just say, "Here's a sleeping giant, come and have a go!"
Koeman is already in the premier league and doing a fantastic job. Emery and De boer are in different positions. They want to come to the premier league and so the Everton job will have more appeal. Koeman is already here so we have to make the risk worth his while.
Dave Abrahams
74 Posted 02/06/2016 at 15:31:29
Liam (62) yes it was a bad result 1-6 in the league cup, but you could say he gave Liverpool a two goal start in the league and beat them 3-2.

Did Koeman bring the midget to Southampton or was Sammy already there.

Patrick Murphy
75 Posted 02/06/2016 at 15:34:37
Dave (74) According to the font of all knowledge Wiki, On 27 June 2014, he agreed to leave Bolton to join Brighton & Hove Albion as assistant manager to Sami Hyypia, with both knowing each other from their time together at Liverpool.[20] However, on 29 June it was announced that he would instead take a coaching position with Southampton, alongside newly appointed manager Ronald Koeman.[21]
Iain Latchford
76 Posted 02/06/2016 at 15:37:53
William Hill said they took a £100 bet on Koeman. In a market that probably hasn't got a great deal of money it that's enough to get the odds moving quite significantly. They also said they took a £3 bet on David Moyes.
Paul Black
77 Posted 02/06/2016 at 15:41:18
Chris, spot on.
Ian Burns
78 Posted 02/06/2016 at 15:42:42
I said on another post the other day, my experience of betting is sixpence on the Grand National. However, I am now seeing that Sky Bet has reduced his odds from 11/1 from last night to 1/2 this afternoon. I presume that means people have reacted to the latest rumours.
Brian Williams
79 Posted 02/06/2016 at 15:44:37
I think Koeman (should we get him) is a safer bet than Emery but I, like most others, was excited at the thought of the flamboyant foreigner etc etc.....
Some may see Koemam as less exciting but I think had he had the budget he should have at Everton (if we get him) at Southampton, he'd have probably finished several places higher than he did. Which would have put them third.....Basis of my argument is that 99% of the time money makes all the difference with league placings.
I'd happy with Koeman, not least because if we do persuade him to come its because he sees it as a chance to progress further.

Nathan Rooney
80 Posted 02/06/2016 at 15:44:42
Nick – some great stuff mate, and quite terrifying when you consider Mr Kenwright and any potential involvement he is having? The old dame does love a good drama doesn't he!

I know your reference material is a comedy based on real events, but I can only state that should this potential scenario come to pass, it would be a complete tragedy for Everton.

I pray I won't be saluting you on your foresight, but this is Everton were talking about so anything is possible!

The Koeman link rumbles on….. but as others have said, it's safe to say no one has really got a Scooby doo what is going on.

He would be a decent appointment imo, as long as Fat Sammy aint part of the package!

Im still dreaming of Simeone, with Monchi/Emery a close second.

Shane Corcoran
81 Posted 02/06/2016 at 15:48:40
So Martin O'Neill is a dead cert for the job eh according to a Boylesports spokesperson.

Ooops, wrong week, wrong manager to speculate about.

Brian Porter
82 Posted 02/06/2016 at 15:58:36
I know it's a very small poll but I have three Dutch friends and they all say they believe De Boer would be a better choice for us than Koeman. According to them De Boer is more adaptable in terms of his in-game management and is overall a much better motivator of his players. So don't shoot me down guys, like I said, this is just the opinion of three Dutchmen who probably know more about these two men than we do. I have to say the in-game management bit kind of swayed me towards De Boer after the times we suffered in that department under Martinez. By the way two of my friends support Ajax, the one PSV.
Colin Leary
84 Posted 02/06/2016 at 16:10:02
The only problem I have is he looks a bit like Sammy Lee.
Paul Kossoff
85 Posted 02/06/2016 at 16:14:02
Personally would rather have De Boer, or Emery.
Koeman has proven nothing in the Premier to show he would take Everton to another level.

De Boer and Emery are both winners of major honours and would have something to prove In England.

Koeman, if he comes, would only to keep us as a top ten side and he would be classed as a success.
Koeman will get a four year deal with more money than he was on at Southampton and have more money to spend on players.
He is a no from me, and I can see a fairly good first season and nothing else.

Liam Reilly
86 Posted 02/06/2016 at 16:16:44
Chris, 70,
Because Koeman's Southampton had a real shot at a stumbling top 4 this year but you never really felt that they believed they could to it ......and they didn't.

Personally, I'm tired of that mentality.

Tony Draper
87 Posted 02/06/2016 at 16:17:44
Talk sport are ALL over this story now, so speculation will go into overdrive.
Hang on, it's gunna get bumpy !
Jon Bentley
88 Posted 02/06/2016 at 16:19:58
Now 2/5 on with Paddy Power!!
Chris Gould
89 Posted 02/06/2016 at 16:26:31
Liam, I really don't think anyone can know how they or he felt. That's a strange statement to make. I'm sure he was going for it with everything he had, but ultimately came up 3 points short because they didn't have good enough players. They had Shane Long up front. City had Aguero. That about says it all.
Dennis Ng
91 Posted 02/06/2016 at 16:31:38
I would prefer Emery over Koeman but if we get Monchi, any of the two would be acceptable I guess. Still rooting for Emery though. I would really doubt that TV have any interest in facts if they are also linked to the gambling business. All this odds craze seems like a concerted marketing effort.
Sam Hoare
92 Posted 02/06/2016 at 16:32:39
Would have been very happy with Koeman a month ago but have slightly given my heart to the idea of Emery and Monchi.
Damian Wilde
93 Posted 02/06/2016 at 16:35:26
"Unai Emery?? who the fuck is he, Martinez in disguise."

Staggered at this. His three European trophies are and consistent good managing with little or no money clearly doesn't impress. Ridiculous.

People are saying EFC is a stepping stone for Barca, why on earth would they take him? He hasn't done that much.

Whoever we het at least they'll be better than RM. But hope it's Emery.

Eugene Kearney
94 Posted 02/06/2016 at 16:48:08
The latest I have just read is that we are after Monchi and Koeman both.

Monchi - Director of Sport (or whwtever)

Koeman - Coach

Martin Reppion
95 Posted 02/06/2016 at 16:52:03
Keoman is on record as wanting to manage at Barcelona. He is also hotly tipped as the replacement most likely foe Arsene Wenger at Arsenal. So if we get him now, and he is successful, he'll be off for wealth beyond our means within three years.

I'd prefer a manager with the potential for some longevity at the club. If the board had acted more quickly and dumped Martinez with 6/7 weeks to go in the season we could have had a real look at David Unsworth. Sadly, we have nothing to go on there. But whoever we get, please make it soon before all the transfer dealing is done elsewhere.
Paul Tran
96 Posted 02/06/2016 at 16:53:43
If our next manager does such a good job that he ends up manager of Barcelona, I'd thank him for the trophies and good times and wish him well.

Let's get a manager that brings us success, then get concerned about him leaving.

Tom Magill
97 Posted 02/06/2016 at 17:02:43
I agree Paul #96,I've a good feeling about Koeman,he was a class player with great contacts,the future's looking a lot brighter than a few weeks ago.
COYB
Tony Draper
98 Posted 02/06/2016 at 17:13:34
Agreed Paul @96.
Why on earth should we appoint a manager that nobody else is interested in ?
Someone that even we can't envisage as making such a good job that everyone else would look at us with envy.

If that is the pinnacle of our ambition, the we should just pack up, because that behaviour is an insult to the proud name of Everton FC.

Mike McLoughlin
99 Posted 02/06/2016 at 17:14:13
As I see it Koeman and his agent are heading for talks. Is it not the case that others could be heading or have headed to merseyside or wherever as has been the case with Peligrini. No doubt Moyes too. I am not convinced he is going to be named as yet. Book still open I would say.
Andy Osborne
100 Posted 02/06/2016 at 17:17:10
There's no doubting koemans record as a player. I'm pretty sure he won a title or a cup, or both, in every year he played. If we want a winner, there aren't many like him. If we get monchi as well, I would be very happy.
Paul Holmes
101 Posted 02/06/2016 at 17:21:10
Just been on Sky Sports News at 5pm that, according to Dutch sources, he is heading to Goodison Park! Great news. A manager that has actually won something!
Kieran Kinsella
102 Posted 02/06/2016 at 17:23:49
Wasn't our last managed destined for Barcelona?
John Pierce
103 Posted 02/06/2016 at 17:26:13
Regardless of who's appointed, I will take a little convincing. If the new manager attacks, shows common sense to close out games and has the players hungry we are likely to see the Everton most of us enjoy watching.

With the Moshiri influence should come higher standards and gone will be the patience that characterises the 'Everton way' when to comes to doing things with decency....

There should be clear goals which if they aren't met that should result in the guy getting the boot

The lack of explicit, clear targets from board (BK) has been staggering, and if Martinez had been given that level of pressure I think we'd seen him change his ways and maybe hed still be here

Fingers crossed

Milo Gould
104 Posted 02/06/2016 at 17:31:34
Koeman odds on with every bookmaker,talks in progress according to Radio Merseyside.
He will do for me,lets all get behind him
Richard Reeves
106 Posted 02/06/2016 at 17:35:36
I don't understand the hype about Koeman and I think the club would be making a mistake in going for him when we have a better alternative (in my opinion) declaring his interest in the job and who requires no compensation money to get him.

Koeman's stock is high at the moment for his first season of massively overachieving, as they were one of the teams expected to be relegated, and a second season of slightly overachieving... but I don't see much more progress – even if he did have a large transfer budget. I think the next couple of seasons will be similar to the last. I don't see him as a top manager for some reason; a good one, yes... but someone who does fairly well reaching a certain level. building a reputation. until he gets to what are considered the biggest/most fashionable clubs where he can compete on massive budgets winning silverware occasionally but not regularly.

I think Emery would be a better choice but even he doesn't get me as excited as the prospect of the unknown in De Boer who is without doubt my preferred choice by some distance. What's not to like about the fella, he wants to manage Everton, he's hungry, likes to give youth a chance, is strict, meticulous, has a 60% win ratio, has done something that's never been done before in winning four Dutch titles in a row, is young in managerial terms, has plenty of charisma, a bit arrogant (for me, a good sign in a manager) and was a very good player learning his craft at Barcelona and Ajax so would also get the respect from the players and will be able to attract some good ones.

Unfortunately it looks like the board don't rate him highly or are unwilling to take a risk on a manager from what they might think is a weak league but I'm sure, as Gareth( #12) said, if we get Koeman, Southampton will bring in De Boer and I think it would prove to be another Potchetino type masterstroke because they would've had the belief we should've had and we'll be left with an inferior manager to them.

Of course, I could be completely wrong and, as others have said, no-one really knows who is going to be a success until time proves it but my gut feeling is De Boer is tailor-made for us and COULD be a top manager in the making.

Andy Osborne
107 Posted 02/06/2016 at 17:35:56
We know different, but to others our club is currently seen as a "stepping stone club". A few good seasons at Everton and I can manage Utd, Barcelona, etc. Well, I say use these managers, like they want to use us. If Koeman or whoever have a few good seasons with us and move on, we will be in a better position to get a better manager next time.
Colin Malone
108 Posted 02/06/2016 at 17:36:19
If all sources are right, Manager, stadium plans, then Moshiri deserves to wear the Everton badge with pride.

Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.

Colin Metcalfe
109 Posted 02/06/2016 at 17:39:49
I was living in Barcelona when he was in charge of Valencia , totally fucked up and eventually got turfed out after a disastrous run of results .
I would be very disappointed if he gets the job , done a good job with Southamptom but hardly spectacular!
James McPherson
110 Posted 02/06/2016 at 17:40:20
Hearing that the aim is "dream team" of Monchi and Koeman. Speculation I know, but have they worked together before? Would both parties sign up for that? A good DoF relationship with manager is key and not easy - why the success rate of such relationships is all about the chemistry as much as the footballing knowledge.. Throwing two people together seems fraught with risk. Also could lead us to losing out on both. Always thought Koeman was his own man - not sure. Having worked abroad I guess he must have had exposure to the DoF concept.
Colin Glassar
111 Posted 02/06/2016 at 17:43:23
Koeman isn't on the top of my list (monetary demands?) but I'll accept him if he's the one.

I still think Pellegrini, closely followed by FDB, would be our best option. As for Emery, Simeone and OFFM, that's just fantasy football stuff. Well, the last one would be more akin to Nightmare on Elm Street.

James McPherson
112 Posted 02/06/2016 at 17:45:06
Colin Metcalfe - like Ancellotti said...regarding Jose's demise at Chelsea - most managers get sacked in their lifetime - even the good ones - Koeman messing up at Valencia...who knows what the factors were. Getting fired for doing a calamitous and extremely poor job did not harm Jose. That was millions at his disposal!
Colin Glassar
113 Posted 02/06/2016 at 17:48:35
James, Les Reed is sort of a DoF at Southampton.
John Pierce
114 Posted 02/06/2016 at 17:52:10
If the DoF rumour is true, Koeman makes sense as hes worked under that system and has no problems with it. Bringing in a manager who hasn't coped well this type of arrangement wouldn't make sense.

A DoF should move Elstone into the long grass and limit our exposure to someone who has never to my mind been of the right quality to decide and run things at Goodison

I wouldn't be surprised if Elstone was moved out, it would be another signal things are been run more akin to the way Moshiri wants

Will be interesting if it is Koeman what length of contract hes offered...

James McPherson
115 Posted 02/06/2016 at 17:52:53
Cheers Colin...had not picked up on that
Brent Stephens
116 Posted 02/06/2016 at 17:55:41
"Hearing that the aim is "dream team" of Monchi and Koeman." Depends where it was heard. So possibly the usual BS.
John Pierce
117 Posted 02/06/2016 at 17:59:37
If is to be Koeman I hope he instills the 'filth' he displayed to 'professionally' bring down Platt in the WCQ way back, would be nice to see an Everton side at the back with some snide and snarl

Damian Wilde
118 Posted 02/06/2016 at 18:00:05
Q) Who tidied up Koeman's mess at Valencia?
Dennis Ng
119 Posted 02/06/2016 at 18:02:20
Exactly Damian, Koeman should be the second or third option. Him being dream team with Monchi is a laugh. Simeone (not leaving anyway) and Emery should be our top priority for manager.
Dan Davies
121 Posted 02/06/2016 at 18:04:50
Not convinced about Koeman being honest. Staying positive if it is him, then we back him. We might have a new manager this time tomorrow!
Barry Jones
123 Posted 02/06/2016 at 18:14:53
I think Koeman would be an excellent choice. We shouldn't get too hung up about Sammy Lee being a deal breaker. I'm sure Koeman can be convinced to leave him behind in Hampshire with the rest of his garden gnomes.
Patrick Murphy
125 Posted 02/06/2016 at 18:15:39
Only Arsene Wenger has over four years in his current job and those managers who have survived for longer than three years are mostly made up of those who are managers at newly or recently promoted clubs, with Mark Hughes being the exception at Stoke. Every other Premier League manager has been in their positions for less than three years and over half of them less than two.

Worrying about whether Everton FC is purely being used as a stepping stone is quite frankly silly as all ambitious managers want to move on at some stage, we will be lucky to see any Everton manager remain in post for longer than three years regardless of how successful they may become at Goodison.

Steve Bell
126 Posted 02/06/2016 at 18:16:37
Why would they travel 'up' to Liverpool? This can be done in London or Monaco surely.
Journalistic bull!!

Len Hawkins
127 Posted 02/06/2016 at 18:17:38
All you odds doubters, I worked with a lad who had 3d each way on Foinavon and won over a fiver. So my money is on Ian Holloway with Charlie Adam as his first signing. 3,000,000-1
Brian Williams
128 Posted 02/06/2016 at 18:20:21
Patrick#125

..............unless he was winning everything with Everton!

Kev Nulty
129 Posted 02/06/2016 at 18:26:34
I'm not convinced by this fella we battered them 3-0 with Martinez in charge, and didn't the lot from across the park beat em 6-1? Emery for me or give Rhino a chance.
Barry Jones
130 Posted 02/06/2016 at 18:27:41
Len, if your mate why so inspired why did he only bet 3d? Was it him that set the trip wire on the 23rd fence?
Gordon Crawford
131 Posted 02/06/2016 at 18:28:27
I agree Brin. At one point we were much bigger than Arsenal. Now the tables have turned. But why not turn them again in our favour. With the right manager and with Moshira at the helm we can once again be the best team in England and even in Europe.
It's time to dream big. :)
David Edwards
132 Posted 02/06/2016 at 18:32:35
Koeman as manager doesn't particularly excite me, compared to Emery or De Boer, but it would be a step up for us from Martinez and Moyes - so while I wouldn't be punching the air if the news came through - I wouldn't be disappointed either. Two additional decisions would make the move much better - having Monchi as Director of Football, and leaving Sammy Lee at Southampton. Then it would be worth cracking open a decent IPA!
Dennis Ng
133 Posted 02/06/2016 at 18:33:04
Patrick, to add to your point, Bayern, Barca, Real are bigger than even the best of EPL. Worrying about managers leaving for bigger jobs is pointless. Besides, a smart manager would choose to stay at a "smaller" team and make their mark instead of being mediocre at the perennial champions.
Stu Smith
134 Posted 02/06/2016 at 18:37:18
Anyone else get that Mike Walker feeling again? We chased him for a long time, paying a huge wage and he gave us.... nothing. Koeman didn't do a very good job with Feyenoord.
Liam Wilson
135 Posted 02/06/2016 at 18:40:12
RK would be my personal favourite of all candidates. Hopefully he will bring with him (a) big Virgil Van Dyke (ideal replacement for Stones) and (b) Victor Wanyama (ideal replacement for McCarthy/Besic/Gibson).
Jim Potter
136 Posted 02/06/2016 at 18:40:53
So is that Overmars and Koeman?

All getting double Dutch to me.

Sean Connor
137 Posted 02/06/2016 at 18:50:08
I more inclined more the Emery-Monchi, scenario. Although, the Koeman-Monchi partnership could work, as, I think the whole re-structure of the club is going to change under Moshiri, and if reports are correct a deal is in place for him to gradually take over 76% of the club which alot would be sold to Usiminov if he is unsuccessful, of getting hold of Arsenal.

My own questions are is goin to be first coach, as Graeme Jones was shit, and where do Big Dunc, Unsworth who I think could be a good manger, and Joe Royle fit in, plus I would have Big Nev as Goalkeeping coach, as you need to keep within the club's traditions, and identity, but we need to modernise, catch up, and take our place back amongst english's football's elite where most of the time we have belonged, give us the money chelsea and man city have enjoyed, then you would see the different, history and support says it all.

James McPherson
138 Posted 02/06/2016 at 18:50:22
I'm out of here !! My goodness, the negativity around Koeman...even before it's substantiated. Think the point was made very well by Patrick Murphy earlier. All the options represent a positive step forward to me - all have merit - all have points that are less positive - the reality is that we will land one of them...let's play our part in turning a corner and look forwards - gees!!!
Tony Sullivan
139 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:00:18
According to first reports when Martinez was sacked Ronald Koeman was Moshiri's first choice. It seems to me if current reports are correct that he is determined to get his man.
For me after years of under achievement, that we have, at last the right man(Moshiri) in place to take the club forward.
Chris Corn
140 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:02:10
James 138, you have to realise that every name bandied around here is criticised by some. Emery is shit, didn't win away blah blah, De Boer only does it in the Dutch league, Pellegrini underachieved with big money blah blah. You will never please everyone.
It's all about opinion. At least it's not, 'we'll end up with Peter Reid' shouts this time.

Like you say they are all positive steps though and as long as Moyes doesn't get the nod, then I will welcome and support whoever is appointed. Even if they do go back, I will, albeit begrudgingly, support him too.

Ian Burns
141 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:03:26
Sky Sports now reporting Everton have made a "massive" move for Koeman (apparently Moshiri's first choice) but they are quoting a Dutch journalist Marcel van der Kraan.
Iain Latchford
142 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:03:37
To be honest I haven't seen a huge amount of Southampton under Koeman. How would people best describe his style/tactics?
Stewart Lowe
143 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:05:48
Oh my God! !! How on earth has Koeman earned the right to manage Everton? He has managed for 15 years and been sacked at almost all the clubs he has managed according to Wikipedia. He has won almost nothing in those 15 years. He then gets 7th and 6th placed finishes at Southampton and suddenly he is the next big thing???? It makes no sense. He might finish 10th next season. He might have played for big clubs but it's his managerial stats I'm more interested in and they don't read well. He has managed 7 clubs in 15 years so he doesn't do longevity either. Can someone advise me what is so great about this manager? For me he is no better than a mark hughes or Steve mcclaren. Drop Koeman and press for Emery
Martin Mason
144 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:16:46
Isn't it funny how Southampton produces such good managers. I think it may be due to the club being far more important than the head coach when it comes to results. Southampton has sold a couple of exceptional sides worth of players and made a fortune without loss of results. Now they are on firm enough ground to stop selling, they are a well run club.

I personally think Koemans isn't the best that we can get but I won't worry as I can't influence the choice. Remember the golden rule, him with the gold makes the rules and that is Morshini now.

Dennis Ng
145 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:20:30
Chris 140, that's why they say "form is temporary, class is eternal". Hopefully whoever we bring is will bring us back up to the class we want to be in.
Helen Mallon
146 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:21:20
People saying didn't we beat them 3 nil well yes we did but they battered us the season before it makes no odds.
John Graham
147 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:23:51
this needs a conclusion one way or another. whoever comes in is going to need time to get some of his own players in and to get the current players on their toes thinking they will have to fight for their places. Would prefer either of Emery, De Boer or Koeman in that order but think its still a gamble no matter who. To be realistic would expect a top ten place first year. hope its someone who will bring the kids through, looks like we have a few good ones who could break into the first team this year. hopefully he will weed out all of the ones nearing the end of their careers and who are not good enough too.
looking forward to the new season already.lets hope the news isn't a big let down as we are all use to.
COYB
Tom Roberts
148 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:24:31
Koeman was my first choice and I hope we get him. If we can get Monchi as DoF then even better. For all you naysayers on here just remember that Southampton beat the following teams last season. Away - Spurs, Man Utd & Chelsea. Home - Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool. I think most of us would be happy with that for starters.

Bigger transfer budget with hopefully Monchi bringing in some gems and we could be on to something. Seems much more positive that the managerial search 3 years ago no matter who we get...It's also been a while since I sang, He's fat he's round he bounces on the ground if he brings his assistant..
Bill Griffiths
149 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:29:03
Other than OFM most of those we are reportedly linked with have negative issues against them as well as their positives. As I
Bill Griffiths
150 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:34:49
As far as I see things other than OFM most of those reportedly linked to the job have negative points against them in addition to their positives. Whoever we sign will be a risk.

My view is that the most risk free would be Simeone (have I got that right) but failing him my personal preference would be Frank De Boer maybe with Overmars as DOF.

He again would be a risk but one I think would be worth taking.

However any of those currently linked would be a step up from the way we haqve operated in the past.

Paul Kossoff
151 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:35:24
Stewart 143, I'm not convinced either in Koeman.
As a head coach, Koeman has won three Eredivisie titles: twice with Ajax (2001–02 and 2003–04) and once with PSV (2006–07). He is the only individual to have both played for and managed the "Big Three" of Dutch football: Ajax, PSV and Feyenoord.[5] Prior to joining Southampton, he also had spells in Portugal with S.L. Benfica and Spain with Valencia CF, coaching los Che to victory in the 2007–08 Copa del Rey.[6]

So he has won things but I get the feeling if he comes to us it will be for the big cheque he sees dangling in front of him and not the challenge.

Ray Jacques
152 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:36:30
Do I not like that!!

If it is Koeman then let's give him a chance. Some people on here would be unhappy with Guardiola, Mourinho etc. A new manager is always a gamble, we just have to wait and see. Until the Europa final no one mentioned Emery and now he is spoken of as a genius on here by people who have possibly only seen one Sevilla game.

Rob Hardy
153 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:38:15
Trying to enthuse myself about this apparent appointment but so far I'm stuck at needling Southampton fans who say we're shite (we can say it but no one else can).

Southampton 1- 6 Liverpool (League Cup Qtr final) hovers ominously in my mind.

Conor McGregor
154 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:38:20
I have to agree with John (#147), we need a new manager real soon before Euros start. To get ready for pre-season, players in and out, and we don't want a Martinez in 2014 coming late back from the World Cup cos of his TV work in Brazil.

I'm not really that excited by any of the new managers linked with us, there's risks with most managers, even Mourniho, who would last about 2 or 3 years at most.

So give the new manager a chance, ToffeeWeb followers, whoever it is – Koeman, Emery, Frank de Boer – the support they will need.

In Moshiri we trust.

Edward Wallis
155 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:39:13
Great news on Koeman if true. Id love Sammy lee to be part of setup too. I had a very fortunate experience to meet him in a pre match meal and spend a couple of hours in his company.His best mate was a massive blue and so he went to many Everton games, he was a dead nice fella and wanted local teams to do well,has never lost his roots to the city and local area. He has a great record as coach and would be a great foil to Koeman coolness to Lee's local grit and feeling. So with Harper, Ablett (RIP), sheedy & Hutchinson being good enough for EFC then Sammy will do a great job if RK is appointed. NSNO
Colin Glassar
156 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:40:52
At least the Nani rumours have stopped.
Peter Morris
157 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:42:40
Contrasting the hysteria about the Man United managerial merry go round with the ambivalence exhibited by most of the media about the Everton job, just goes to show that the media, and in particular the press, view football through an almost exclusively Mancunian prism. There was a piece in yesterday's Torygraph by Sam Wallace, and with reference to Everton, decidedly sneering and dismissive in tone. This guy has form with regard to Everton. He berated the club on several occasions for denying Leighton Baines the 'opportunity' to move to Manchester United, fully expecting however for the move to go through. It didn't, Sam. No, it didn't.
Yesterday, on a piece actually focussed on Southampton, he said 'Everton's interest in appointing Ronald Koeman was considered so unlikely to tempt the Southampton manager that key figures at the club cannot recall there even being a meeting about it. The polite answer being that they would not expect to lose a player to Everton, and certainly not their manager.' Says who Sam? Southampton FC, or you?
You could almost touch joy in that remark. None of us know what the future holds, certainly not twats like Sam Wallace, but their constant attempts to try to apply a natural pecking order in football, with Man United at the top of it no matter what their league position is, sickens me to the craw.
Paul Kossoff
158 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:43:18
Bill 150, Anyone is a risk in sport, you can give them as much money as you like but it won't guarantee success.
Klop at the dark side I'm sure will not be there long, Mourino is no sure fire hit at Man Utd.
Koeman, Emery, De Boer are no bigger guarantee than??? Um, Martinez was.
Paul Black
159 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:43:41
Paul,

Do you know if he had a significant amount of money to spend before?

Brian Harrison
160 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:46:42
I will be delighted if its Koeman, to surpass what Pochettino did at Southampton is no mean feat. Added to the fact that he had most of the first team sold before he arrived at the club. This man has acheived very good results over 2 seasons not one, so its hardly a fluke what he has achieved.
The main reason to back him is that it is obviously Moshiri who has picked him, and I would add after checking out other possible candidates. So no knee jerk choice like BK made over RM. So for me a good start by Moshiri lets hope the announcement of a new stadium closely follows.
Kev Nulty
161 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:49:06
If money is no object give Simeone what he wants. What a statement that would make!
Sean Connor
162 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:51:40
This is the sacrifice you face being an Evertonian, expect the worse, then the only way is up, and en tho the season, you try and forget about, but as Al Pacino says in Godfather 3: "They pull you back in"...

But at least compared to past years, instead of Bill looking down the sofa for spare change to buy a squad player like Gibson; we have at least a serious transfer war chest to buy a better quality of player.

Whoever, the manager will be, he needs to get the respect of the dressing room straight away, cause the fans will always back a new manager.

Martin O'Sullivan
163 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:52:19
Sorry, maybe I am one of few, but this link really doesn't excite me at all. I don't know why but I just don't want him at Everton. I think we can do better and think bigger than Koeman. Emery or Simeone would be great.

I just don't see him improving us especially with the other top managers who are going to be in the league next season. We can do better, Blues. And hopefully with the waves Moshiri has been making, I hope he's thinking bigger too.

Paul Kossoff
164 Posted 02/06/2016 at 19:58:19
Paul 159, I didn't say Koeman had a significant amount of money to spend, but considering the amount of cash Southampton conned out of the dark side, I would presume Koeman did have a large amount of transfer fund's available.
Iain Latchford
165 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:00:29
Martin, Simeone and Emery might simply be unavailable. We have to get someone so that would narrow it down to Pellegrini, de Boer or Moyes if we don't go for Koeman. Unless you can think of someone else?
John Malone
166 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:01:45
Martin 163, what's not to like?? He is Holland and Barca legend and has just had two great season's in tbe prem without having any 'big' names in his squad and comes across as a real class act. To me Monchi and Koeman is a dream team!
Patrick Murphy
167 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:03:09
It wasn't that long ago that Owen Coyle, Roberto Di Mateo, Gary Monk and even Alan Stubbs who have all joined new clubs this week, were to be considered as acceptable candidates for the managers position at Goodison Park.

Now we are in a position that would indicate our ambitions are higher than those respected managers might be capable of achieving, whether it be Koeman, Emery, De Boer or Pellegrini who is eventually appointed we and the 31,000 season ticket holders have to back the new manager and hope he can produce a winning team.

Joseph Terrence
168 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:07:42
Welcome, Mr Koeman.
Paul Kossoff
169 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:10:24
Apparently Koeman has worn the royal blue.
Feyenoord vs Everton European Cup Winners Cup 2nd Round at De Kuip Stadium, Rotterdam in 1995 as Ronald Koeman leaves the pitch wearing an Everton shirt.
Martin O'Sullivan
170 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:12:38
I agree with what you say and who may or may not be available or interested, I'm just not feeling it with this guy. Nothing he's done gets me excited!! God, I hope he proves me wrong if he gets the job. Like I said, maybe I am one of the few. Sorry, peeps!!
Oliver Molloy
171 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:16:39
Joseph @ 168.

Do you know something we don't ?

Iain Latchford
172 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:18:41
Paul, he neatly broke Craig Short's leg in that game. Short got sent off for retaliating if I remember correctly.
Gordon Crawford
173 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:19:38
Colin that was funny. :) Maybe Nani could be our director of football lol
Paul Kossoff
174 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:27:54
Portugal man down, last time I saw a kick that high it was Bruce Lee in enter the dragon.
Paul Black
175 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:29:58
Paul 164, my question was if he had money before he went to S'hampton)

I only asked because I didn't know and don't follow too much. Actually, I couldn't care less about other clubs, well apart from FC Bukovina (and I'm gonna get slayed for this) Dynamo Kiev...eek...

I lived in Ukraine for 7 years and was at the Olympic Stadium for 'that' game about a month before moving back to MostlyFuckingCloudyLand)

Me and my 'fellow' Dynamo fans were all on the national news too)

After arriving about 10am, I couldn't figure out why we were waiting outside the ground for so long when we should have been getting tanked on beer and vodka...it turned out I was set up by one of my guys who knew very well how much I hate cameras and after being asked if I knew any Everton songs with the cameras secretly rolling and me blasting out the first few lines of Johnny Todd, in what I'm sure was a premeditated manoeuvre, the 'gopnik' pricks mauled me to the ground....then we went for some beer and vodka so it was fine until the game but there you go)

Liam Wilson
176 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:32:55
Paul Black 175

"Slava geroy!!"

Aidy Dews
177 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:34:14
The Dutch Moyes, happy to go for 6th & 7th?! Haha what is all that about?! Well from what I've seen of Southampton since Koeman took over, is a team that's well drilled usually, they work hard, close down and play a good, quick brand of football that isn't anything like how Moyes played. And this summer he wanted assurances from the Saints board regarding funds so he could build on what he's done and kick on and try and take Southampton into the CL so I don't see how that is the mindset of a manager that is happy to stick around 6th or 7th?!

I'll admit, and some of you have probably seen, that Koeman wasn't my preference. Frank de Boer was always my 1st choice, then Pellegrini, then Koeman but IF we do get Koeman then I would actually be happy. He's done a good job at Southampton, he's got an eye for a good player and his brand of football seems to suit the premier league and with the right backing, I'm sure he can turn us into regular CL challengers and depending on how much investment, even further hopefully.

I'd rather have Koeman than Emery if I'm honest. I know he's just won the Europa for the 3rd time running and it's an unbelievable achievement but domestically he's done nothing. He finished 3rd a few times with Valencia a while ago but back then Valencia, even with their financial struggles, were still one of the best teams in Spain, probably the third best behind both Barca & Real Madrid at that point. The best he's managed at Sevilla is 5th! Now I know Sevilla lose star players most season, but don't be fooled into thinking that they don't spend money and get some good players into replace what went out! But people kind of mocking Koemans achievements at Southampton need to realise that what he's done domestically with them is probably a more impressive job than Emery getting Sevilla to 5th. Tbf, Sevilla should be challenging for the top 4 in Spain and CL qualification each year, Imo anyway has their still one of the better teams in La Liga.

But like some have mentioned, I fear that IF we do get Koeman, de Boer goes to Southampton and ends up doing a really good job and has them challenging along with us for that top four and shows we should of gone for him instead really.

Simon Bradley
178 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:34:54
I will be more than happy with Koeman. Personally would have slightly preferred Emery, but Koeman comes with PL experience. I see a lot of people saying he hasn't proved himself, hasn't won anything etc. I don't remember Howard Kendall winning anything before we went with him the first time either. If we get Monchi also, that will be huge.

Whoever we get it is quite obvious now that the massive change that comes with investment, that we have all been praying for 24/7 for years, has happened. We are in completely different place now, and the future, while uncertain, is a lot brighter. If Moshiri was not around, and we still had Bill et all in charge, I can assure you the likes of Jose, Koeman, De Boer, Emery, Pelligrini would not have even been in the equation, and either Alan Stubs, David Unsworth or god forbid Moyes would already be our new manager.

The intent, and ambition, not to mention talks of a new stadium and a huge transfer kitty, from Mr Moshiri, are very, VERY exciting to me.

COYB. Let's welcome whoever we get. There is Royal Blue on the horizon, lets embrace it.

Liam Wilson
179 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:35:46
Paul Black 175....great book. Recommended

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dynamo-Andy-Dougan/dp/1841153192/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1464896083&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=dynamo+paul+dougan

Anthony Newell
180 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:37:29
Can't say I'm inspired either but then I can't suggest a decent alternative... But that doesn't mean having to rush in to buy the 'hottest ticket' in town.

I would rather leave Royle & Rhino in charge for a bit than acting in haste and repenting at leisure, how many bloody times have we done that?

The last time I remember going to a game and being filled with true excitement was when we'd just bought Kanchelskis fresh from winning a trophy. Who was in charge then?

Colin Glassar
181 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:38:08
Peter 157, as you say, Sam Wallace has form when it comes to us. He's definitely a sky 4 man who's quite proud of the fact.

Ken Jones
182 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:47:09
Initially Koeman was my preferred choice to succeed Martinez, he had Premier League experience, done well considering some of their best players had been moved on & most importantly seemed to talk in straightforward language – the opposite of Martinez.

However, since I read about Monchi's possible departure from Seville & Emery's reduced buy-out figure I feel a tad disappointed that Koeman is now looking likely to be the next manager/coach.

On the plus side, Moshiri's influence has had a positive effect on the quality available to us & I hope the 'right' one is appointed to take the club forward in an even more competitive Premier League next season

Paul Black
183 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:48:02
Liam 176...BOOM !!!

Slava Ukryina...geroem Slava yob twayoo mats...hahahahahaha

Well, I wasn't expecting that...have you been on mainstream Ukrainian TV too?)))

Conor Skelly
184 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:49:09
Completely uninspiring but probably the safest option available. Expect top 8 finishes - which will suit the board fine.
Sean Connor
185 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:51:22
Everyone, would love Simone on here, but we have to realistic, top managers want top clubs , and wages to match, and we haven't had a strong european pedigree for a while. So, if you want the best you may have to pay over the top.

Although, Pocchetino, came from no-where, Southampton to Spurs, without winning anything. Compare that to Van Gaal, managed at the highest level, who would most people go for now? Goin for the biggest names doesn't always work.

My point is, the new manager, must have the drive and ambition to take us forward, and be completley fearless almost like a mourinho, plus Southampton's last 2 managers seemed to have done well, losing alot of players to the RS, so there set up does not seem bad, ours need a kick up the arse, we know it, now up to the board to deliver.

Raymond Fox
186 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:53:02
Paul, 'Mostly Fucking Cloudy Land' made me laugh; you're not wrong. Koeman wouldn't be my first choice but I'd settle for him with the right players.

Looking at last year's Premier League Table, after the abuse Martinez got for a 5th, two 11th finishes plus 2 Cup Semi Finals (one which we should have won). Where has the new manager got to finish before he gets the same abuse!

Bear in mind we're up against Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham, Liverpool, throw in Leicester, West Ham and Stoke who are also owned by multi millionaires!

Phil Head
187 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:56:26
I think the board have got a bit carried away with Koeman's last two years in charge of Southampton. His record before that, all with huge clubs around Europe, has been really poor. He flopped and was sacked at Ajax, PSV, Feyenoord, Benfica, and Valencia.

Real short-sightedness from our board again; the Premier League isn't the be all and end all, and it certainly isn't a difficult league to be successful in.

It's been a dreadful standard since it's onset. Just look at how English teams do in European competition every year, with many times the resources of any other league. It must have been lost on our board that Southampton did actually compete in the Europa League last season – they were knocked out in the qualifiers. Comparing Koeman's record to Emery's in all competitions is just no comparison whatsoever.

From all reports, both Emery and Monchi have buy-out options in their contracts, so let's meet those buy-outs and make them an offer they can't refuse.

Paul Black
188 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:56:49
Liam, thanks for the book recommendation...there is (or after the red revolution maybe not at all or in the original condition) a statue dedicated to those guys...beyond words really...
Paul Kossoff
189 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:57:53
England stink at the moment, clueless against ten men.
Aidy Dews
190 Posted 02/06/2016 at 20:58:00
Conor, just cos we might go and spend £100m or more this summer doesn't guarantee that will go and gate crash the top four. There's going to be a fair few teams spending a lot of money next season and there's gonna be teams that were off the pace last season, back up there challenging again so it is going to be difficult and the top 8 onwards will be tight and competitive.

But hopefully we can spend well and gel quickly and hit the ground running next season and kick on with whoever gets the job!

David Edwards
191 Posted 02/06/2016 at 21:03:14
Simon 178 - I agree with what you say - especially the positive view of our current position with Moshiri apparently at the helm. That is why getting the right choice of manager, director of football and back room staff has never been so crucial. We won't get this opportunity like this again to set ourselves up for the next few years.

A lot of boards/owners are going to be disappointed with their 'big name' managers - as the likes of Pep, Jose, Klopp, Conte etc. when they don't deliver the Premier League in the next year or two. I think we need to play a longer game, and Moshiri strikes me already as a shrewd customer who will be doing a lot of research and I do think his decision will be a good one. He's the one putting up the notes

So while Koeman isn't my first choice, I can live with it - compared to who we'd have got with Blue Bill fully in charge. Just would be nice to get this done by the weekend, so next season's planning can start before the Euros.

Then, hopefully.... The future's bright..... The future's Royal Blue!

Kristian Boyce
192 Posted 02/06/2016 at 21:04:15
Koeman is coming to us possibly as the same situation he started at Saints. Come the end of the summer, our squad is going to be threadbare with the probability of Lukaku and Stones going, the mass departure of the out-of-contract players and possibly 1-2 others.

I remember the tweet he sent out a few days into the job with a picture of an empty training field, titled "team training". He had to basically rebuild a team ravaged by their former coach and the RS. To get that team to the top 6 within 2 years is a great job.

It's funny seeing comments on social media from people saying they can't believe he would leave Saints for us. I grew up in Hampshire and Pompey probably have a bigger fan base than them. They might have a billionaire owner as well, but potential wise, where they are now is probably at their ceiling.

Iain Latchford
193 Posted 02/06/2016 at 21:06:48
I liked the idea of de Boer because I felt he had a real hunger to prove himself. Unfortunately his lack of experience in the Premier League would make him more of a risk. I just hope Koeman is coming (if he's coming) for the right reasons. Ultimately Everton are going to pay him considerably more than Southampton by the sounds of it. I hope his heart is in it.
Paul Black
194 Posted 02/06/2016 at 21:08:42
Raymond 186...

I'm settled on Koeman because I've learnt a few new things about him recently and it ain't doing my health any good with all the chopping and changing I've done and don't worry Raymond, I'm sure he won't get any abuse....

First he has a bigger choice of adjectives and I know he's a hella of a lot more tactically savvy...he's be gonna be great dudeski

Do you know how I know?
I feel it)))

Jim Potter
195 Posted 02/06/2016 at 21:09:40
Let's face it - there will never be a consensus on TW about anything bar our dislike for a particular team that plays near us. To get agreement over a new manager - forget it.

All we can do is hope the powers that be ultimately get it right. Moshiri must have taken advice from many experienced contacts. And to be fair the shortlist we have heard about is pretty decent. For a start there has been no serious talk of the Nigel Pearson's, Phil Neville's, Duncan Ferguson's, etc,. Moyes talk worried me for a while but I believe that would have been Bill putting his pennyworth in.

For me I'd love Simone - but I don't think it's a goer. From the remainder I'd be happy with Koeman, Emery or my second tier of Pelligrini or De Boer.

Face it - your guy is probably not going to get it. Prepare yourself for another slightly less palatable choice.

Whatever happens let's back the guy to the hilt and not start his reign with just slagging him off.

Andy Crooks
196 Posted 02/06/2016 at 21:17:13
Raymond he's gone, move on. If Koeman becomes our coach then I expect he will get the same plaudits that Martinez did. I would expect that he will get the same amount of time.

I think you believe that the players got off lightly last season. I agree but for far too long Martinez was allowed to continue being useless. Whoever the new coach is he will need to get the right personalities and have a huge amount of luck. Whatever one thinks of Martinez hecertainly didn't have much luck.

Gordon Crawford
197 Posted 02/06/2016 at 21:22:54
England are crap. Still no Barkley or Stones either.
Christian Hoff
198 Posted 02/06/2016 at 21:27:40
Koeman will do great! He will not switch clubs unless he has a significant warchest for transfers and promise of a bright future on the Docklands. COYB!
Danny O'Neill
199 Posted 02/06/2016 at 21:30:44
I'll stay consistent. Not taking anything away from his relative achievements at Southampton and ability / potential to be a successful manager but I just don't feel the Koeman-Everton thing for some reason.

Whilst acknowledging we are no longer in the space of needing a complete overhaul and 10-year recovery plan and more in the achieve something relatively soon space, I just feel that we would be a stepping stone to greater things (providing it went well for him IF he became our manager and IF he succeeded).

IF we go with him, I support him as manager of Everton however for me this doesn't feel like a good fit. Incidentally I (like many) said the same of Roberto yet got behind him. I support Everton not the individual.

Martin Faulkner
200 Posted 02/06/2016 at 21:34:33
Paul,
Here's the picture mate
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/see-ronald-koeman-Everton-shirt-11371379
Martin Faulkner
201 Posted 02/06/2016 at 21:36:53
Dutch media reporting hi agent is in Monaco
Nick Entwistle
202 Posted 02/06/2016 at 21:39:07
Guess I could forgive him for the David Platt incident.
John Daley
203 Posted 02/06/2016 at 21:44:36
Iain @193,

So, why do you think De Boer "has a real hunger to prove himself", but Koeman might be a money grabbing bastard whose "heart" may not be in it? De Boer has been trying to get a gig in the Premier League for the past three years. People close to him have let it be known he was 'keen' on the Spurs job, the red shite job, the Newcastle job and now the Everton job. Basically, he's looking to manage in the Premier League. How can you be sure such eagerness is based on ambition and nothing at all to do with the riches on offer then?

Koeman, by contrast, is supposedly contemplating moving on from a club where he has had to cope with the loss of 𧵎m worth of players over the past two summers and a sticking point of his contract talks has been him seeking assurances that a similar situation will not continue to unfurl on a yearly basis. That suggests to me a manager interested in having the opportunity of building on his work and actually progressing with a team, rather than having to tear it up and start again from scratch each term.

Sure, the money on offer is going to play a big part in his decision, but that surely stands for any manager contemplating taking up a vacancy? To suggest that would be his primary motive in moving to Everton is speculative in the extreme. Whilst some of the dullest lights of the punditry circuit may be trying to make out that leaving Southampton for Everton is now a fucking step down, Koeman has been in the game long enough to know there is a massive difference between the two stages he's got the opportunity to tread.

Anyway, at least Everton appear to be the one's doing the chasing and courting of (charity bucket out) Koeman, whereas with (don't insult me with cash) De Boer it appears to be completely the other way around with him/his brother coming over all fucking Duncan Norvelle about it and shouting "Oooh Chase me, chase me!", before stopping, bending over, sticking his head between his own ankles and wondering why those upside down bastards are rapidly backing away rather than jumping right in.

Mark Pierpoint
204 Posted 02/06/2016 at 21:46:25
This is how I see it.

1) Koeman was my original first choice. He has a certain gravitas as a player- to attract and to keep our current crop this is important. Got experience in several leagues and has done well at Southampton.

2) Post Uefa Cup I have started to fancy Emery more.. He is a risk though coming from such an alien footballing culture as Spain. How many managers with experience limited to Spain ( I am not including his spell in Russia) have made the transition other than Potch?

3) De Boer. Liked the idea of him, read a lot that troubles me with him though, particularly his lack of experience in competitive leagues. I struggle to see what possible advantage he has over Koeman, apart from he 'wants' the job with no negotiation?

4) Simeone is not a realistic option. He doesn't speak English despite trying to learn, and shows no real desire to work here. His next move will most likely be to Italy, and probably Internazionale. This is from BBC 5 live journo when questioned on him. If he was interested in England, it would be him, and not Conte, at Chelsea. This is not a defeatist argument, just simple fact.

Koeman will do a solid job. He probably ticks most boxes of those #available.

Gordon Crawford
205 Posted 02/06/2016 at 21:47:27
Oh why are we waiting? We are suffocating..........

Come on Everton.

Raymond Fox
206 Posted 02/06/2016 at 21:48:56
Andy I have moved on ,just pointing out how difficult a league the Premiership is.

Take Ranieri, everthings gone wonderfully well this season, but how many times has he been sacked for failing to come up to expectations.
Koemans in the same boat, doing well with Southampton up to now but has also been sacked several times.
Its very difficult to judge managers, because success is a very transient thing, very often when things just drop into place and things go your way.

Its crucial whoever the manager is, that he is backed up by the best players we can possible afford, and I'm talking real quality.

Christian Hoff
207 Posted 02/06/2016 at 21:49:13
The boss?

Nick Page
208 Posted 02/06/2016 at 21:52:55
Mik Walker did well with Norwich....oh, wait
Kunal Desai
209 Posted 02/06/2016 at 21:58:34
Being reported that a deal for Koeman is done. Seems as though this was Moshiris first choice. I would have liked Emery but got to now get behind the new man.
Brent Stephens
210 Posted 02/06/2016 at 21:59:22
Kunal - being reported where?
David Edwards
211 Posted 02/06/2016 at 22:00:00
Blimey, John - that last paragraph would keep the psychology students at my school busy for a whole term! :-)
Tony Hill
212 Posted 02/06/2016 at 22:00:03
As one who thought Martinez was the very thing for Everton when he arrived, I intend to proceed with caution. If it is Koeman, though, I shall be pleased and reassured that we will not see at Goodison next season the paralysed football to which we were largely reduced over the previous year and a half. The most soul-draining fare I have ever seen from us.

For the time being, that change will do well enough for me.

Ciaran Duff
213 Posted 02/06/2016 at 22:03:51
RK has been my first choice for months. What he has done at Soton with little money has been impressive. He is a straight talking ex defender who combines style with a tough edge. Ideal for Everton I believe. Hope this rumour is true.
Kunal Desai
214 Posted 02/06/2016 at 22:06:19
Brent - Two other posters on another forum. Generally good accurate there info. One is the esk.
Tony Hill
215 Posted 02/06/2016 at 22:07:31
The other thing that this all seems to demonstrate - and the sources now cannot be ignored surely - is the determination and guts of Mr Moshiri as well as his willingness to lay out his cash. Even if this bid fails, full credit to the owner.
Gordon Crawford
216 Posted 02/06/2016 at 22:09:18
It's all over Twitter as a done deal.
Paul Black
217 Posted 02/06/2016 at 22:11:29
John, 203:
Davids right, magnificent final passage)

David, 211:
Try it!)

Conor Skelly
218 Posted 02/06/2016 at 22:12:23
Hang-on I may have written Koeman off too quickly. If anybody had any doubts (like me) if he is the right man for the job, well on current form, he is.

Have a look at the league table from last season. 18 wins (two more than WHU & Liverpool) and a goal difference of + 18 (which is better than Utd, WHU and Liverpool).

The season before that, again 18 wins with a goal difference of +21.

Hopefully he can bring Long, Tadic, Wanyama & Forster with him. He's now 1/4 with PP. I'm on board.

http://www.skysports.com/football/competitions/premier-league/table/2015

Brent Stephens
219 Posted 02/06/2016 at 22:15:05
Cheers, Kunal.
Paul Black
220 Posted 02/06/2016 at 22:16:42
On a refreshed 'odds checker' there are nowhere near as many options if you fancy a bet.
Mark Riding
221 Posted 02/06/2016 at 22:21:00
Paul, most bookies shut down specials markets at 10pm. Morning papers etc. Koeman is 1/2 on betfair. And is home and hosed. So if you want a bet, do it now.
Clive Lewis
222 Posted 02/06/2016 at 22:22:39
Unai Emery he is the one, Koeman is good but still not won anything gamble may pay off. But not sure if it will no guarantee. Could be another Dutch flop .
Paul Black
223 Posted 02/06/2016 at 22:23:34
Evening Mark and thanks, I'm not a betting man or I wouldn't be all excited about everyone closing shop as usual)))
David Edwards
224 Posted 02/06/2016 at 22:23:39
Paul - what did you get up to on those cold nights in Kiev!!! ;-)
Colin Glassar
225 Posted 02/06/2016 at 22:30:27
Why am I feeling underwhelmed? I just hope he doesn't swap Lukaku for Pelle and Shane bloody Long if this is true.
Raymond Fox
226 Posted 02/06/2016 at 22:32:01
I don't think 1/2 makes Koeman him a good thing Mark, he'd be a lot shorter than that if he was a cert.

Like you say though if anyone has inside information get on quick.

Paul Mackie
227 Posted 02/06/2016 at 22:33:19
Really don't want Koeman
Danny O'Neill
228 Posted 02/06/2016 at 22:44:24
Should we read read too much into his recent track record of coping with coming into a cluband having to deal with having a large percentage of star players sold? Good manager but agree with Colin, rather underwhelmed.
Dave Abrahams
229 Posted 02/06/2016 at 22:45:11
Patrick (75) thanks for your information on Sammy Lee.

I think Koeman has done a good job at Southampton considering he has had to change the team each season he has been there because his best players were sold by The board of directors at Southampton.

If he signs for Everton all we can hope for is he does a good job, same as any manager who takes the job. How does he treat young players at the clubs he has been at, does he give them a chance, quite a few young lads coming through at Finch Farm, hope he gives them a chance.

Incidentally once he sees Finch Farm he will be overjoyed at the facilities there, it will be the best training ground in England if not Europe in the next few years.

Colin Glassar
230 Posted 02/06/2016 at 22:46:15
Sounds like its a done deal Paul, although according to the daily mirror (in their eternal wisdom) they see us a stepping stone to greater things for him. Plucky little Everton, eh?

Well I hope we do a Leicester next season and shut up these fuckwit journos once and for all.

Paul Black
231 Posted 02/06/2016 at 22:49:33
David, 224

I didn't live in Kiev, too fast and big for me but excellent if you know the right places to go for a few nights)

I was in a very pretty little place called Chernivtsi. Austro-Hungarian architecture, 600 years old, 220,000 very friendly people with another 30,000 mostly female students when it was uni time...30 mins from Romania, an hour from MOLDOVA and voted by Ukraians the best place to live just about every year...a wonderful taste of real Ukr life.

I didn't know anyone when I got there, any language or understood the culture so when I calmed down, I put some bunk beds in my flat and called it a hostel consequently spending most days getting hammered with interesting, lovely people from around the world, so not bad and I miss it so much, my friends and above all their eternally positive attitude which makes a nice change. Maybe I was infected by the positivity, I don't know but it seems I have become possibly a bit over sensitive or maybe the occasional bouts of what used to be the national pastime of complaining, seems to me to have evolved into something more like a numbed, constant whinging sound.

Anyway, it's great to have veggie options again where chicken and fish are classed as meat plus I get to drink some lovely real ale instead of (and to be fair, quite poky at times) yet still, fizzy, cats piss lager.

David Edwards
232 Posted 02/06/2016 at 22:54:12
Cheers Paul - brightened up what was becoming a plateauing thread! COYBs
Gavin Johnson
233 Posted 02/06/2016 at 22:55:03
It looks like this is happening and we've gone full circle finally getting the manager who was the original target.

Personally I'm over the moon. Ronald Koeman is a shrewd operator who has an excellent pedigree, both as a player and manager.

He more than exceeded expectations at Saints getting a team who were favourites for the drop, after they had a exodus of their supposed best players. He bought in players who were better.

I think that this has been the major attraction for Moshiri. It's not just Rom and Stones who will leave. It's all the deadwood who are out of contract. We'll be able to replace the likes of Gibson and Pienaar with players like Tom Davies and Kieran Dowell. That all said, It's still a big rebuild and Ronald Koeman has a proven track record, so he seems perfect choice IMO.

I don't understand the Dutch David Moyes comparison. For one, I don't think he's a bottler and he's actually won some trophies.

He's won 3 Dutch titles and what also gave him the edge over De Boer was probably the fact that he also won the double in Holland wining the Dutch equivalent of the FA cup. He's also won the Copa Del Rey in Spain with Valencia, so he's also won trophies in a superior league. It's a haul David Moyes could only dream of.

I was edging towards De Boer over Koeman a few weeks ago, because he clearly wants the job and he has more potential being the relative unknown. I must admit though, the fact that FDB has a poor record in cup competitions and the possession philosophy he apparently favours put a few doubts in my mind. I also think it would have taken De Boer few years to integrate his style. A little bit like LVG at United, who was just starting to turn the corner before he was sacked.

I don't particularly like Koeman the man. I never liked him as a player. But I'm confident with the backing he's going to get us mixing it with the best.

I also personally think Koeman is a better appointment than Emery. We can still try and get Monchi who seems to be the main talent at Seviila. Emery was abysmal when he left La Liga for Russia.


John Davies
234 Posted 02/06/2016 at 23:00:58
Just get Koeman in. Whatever the cost. End of.
Paul Black
235 Posted 02/06/2016 at 23:02:22
Davi, 224

The coldest I experienced was -25 but the long hot summers are usually 6 or so months between 25-38...the last 2 winters I was there, the 3rd week in November we were in t-shirts))

Have you been there?
Thinking about going?


Bobby Thomas
236 Posted 02/06/2016 at 23:02:51
People keep mentioning Simeone. Can I have what your smoking please? Its deamland.

It appears we are going to be installing a new director of football and manager with a squad thats going to lose numerous players, some way past it, a couple big name first team regulars. We are going to require numerous additions.

Things could be bumpy at first. You can therefore understand them wanting someone who has worked in the division. I personally think Pellegrini's track record shits all over Koemans, but the latter would be a good appointment.

Tony Draper
237 Posted 02/06/2016 at 23:03:24
If we do secure Ronalds services (and the compassess are all pointing that way now), then he needs to:
Win BOTH League derbies.
Lose NO home games.
Get us to Wembley.
Keep Stones.
Keep Lulu.


Switch on the circuit in Barkley which has a faulty connection.

Sign us a 'Keeper.
Sign us a midfield Tiger.
Make "The Grand Old Lady Roar !".

Otherwise, we won't be waiting 3 years this time !

(Despite being a calm and reasonable man, I may yet add further demands).

Colin Glassar
238 Posted 02/06/2016 at 23:04:50
He's a bit of a cold fish is our Ronald but, welcome aboard!! I re-read the Dave Maddock article in the mirror and sounds like Moshiri is the real deal. Read it, it's well worth it.
Iain Latchford
239 Posted 02/06/2016 at 23:05:39
John, My opinion is that if we were offering a similar financial package to Southampton then Koeman would stay put. I'm not saying he's acting any different than most would but I think he'd sit tight until a bigger offer came in. Money always talks.
Rob Hardy
240 Posted 02/06/2016 at 23:06:39
Just can't get past the fact he appears one of the multitude who do a "job" at a certain level - Pardew, Allardyce, Moyes, Hughes, Rodgers, Hodgson etc - not bad managers just functionally uninspiring.

Rather than the first steps into a brave new world it seems a nod to the pre Martinez era.

Gordon Crawford
241 Posted 02/06/2016 at 23:06:51
Also we have signed a player lol.

Everton Sign Sambou

Tony Hill
242 Posted 02/06/2016 at 23:08:54
A cold fish will do nicely, Colin, after the gush and babble of recent years. Mr Moshiri doesn't look like a riot of fun either but, again, thank God for that.
Iain Latchford
243 Posted 02/06/2016 at 23:08:56
(we're going to pay Koeman £7m a year apparently)
Paul Black
244 Posted 02/06/2016 at 23:14:45
It does indeed Iain but try to enjoy the moment and let's see what a few hundred million quid says to us eh?)
Colin Glassar
245 Posted 02/06/2016 at 23:15:27
Tony, the mirror says Moshiri will take over (completely) in two years time and will bring in his rich mates (Usmanov?) and build us a stadium.

Koeman will get a huge war chest plus the Lukaku money (seems like the club will let him go for the right money) but we will keep Ross and Stonesy. I can't wait.

Gavin Johnson
246 Posted 02/06/2016 at 23:16:04
£7m?! Does anyone know where that ranks in the leagues best paid managers?? I'm guessing only Mourinho and Guardiola are on more.
Gordon Crawford
247 Posted 02/06/2016 at 23:18:52
Wenger is on more as far as I know.
Andy Crooks
248 Posted 02/06/2016 at 23:19:18
Apparently, Gavin, the 6th
Tony Draper
249 Posted 02/06/2016 at 23:20:12
Colin, just read that article.

Seems the dull old days really could be a thing of fading memory rather than fading glory. Bloody hope so.

Soren Moyer
250 Posted 02/06/2016 at 23:21:01
Please get FDB in. NOT giving him the job is a big mistake imo.
Don Alexander
251 Posted 02/06/2016 at 23:22:56
First off, Koeman was a top player. To me that means any squad would have to be thickness personified not to listen to him and do as he tells them. Southampton's league position gives licence for optimism.

Second, given the situation of our squad we're likely to more or less immediately need new signings to replace the likes of our "elderlies" (at least Hibbo, Pienaar, Ozzie, Gibson - despite his actual age) and probably two keepers to compete with Robles, the only one left, and spare me the argument that four or five of our youngsters can just replace all of them at the same time. Then there's the tricky job of replacing any of our want-aways and inadequates, and we all believe we know who they are. Again, Southampton's league position gives licence for optimism given the way their squad was reassembled after several of their "stars" left en-masse over the past two summers.

If Koeman (or whoever) is appointed I hope they have to EARN the right to get another contract by either winning something or getting into the CL proper within their first two or three year contract. To me that means we may have to adjust to a board who will please not tolerate a decade or two of the complacency and impotence of Kenwright and his string-pullers. Instead, the new board will hopefully get shut in the face of failure and appoint a better manager, and with a new stadium and new in-house revenue streams there should be a procession of proven applicants as and when that day arrives.

Of course Koeman (or whoever) may just see us as a stepping stone to "greater" clubs but, providing they achieve success for us whilst they're here, who cares?

Colin Glassar
252 Posted 02/06/2016 at 23:24:01
I try not to get too excited about these reports Tony but my god, after so many years of pain and disappointment I might just start to dream again.

I'd better not wake up tomorrow to see a beaming BPB announcing the appointment of his David.

James Flynn
253 Posted 02/06/2016 at 23:28:32
Koeman will do.

I'm going with the notion that EFC is now run by a man with ambition. Not another Kenwright "financial friend(s)" (Be interesting over the next two years if the books still show those two high-interest BVI loans).

And if anyone can present a logic where Moshiri is only Usamov's frontman, I'd like to hear it.

No, I'll stick thinking a man with his own ambition, Moshiri, is in charge.

If it's Koeman he gets 2-3 years, cuts the mustard, gets more years. Doesn't cut it, he goes and . . . . NEXT!


Tony Draper
254 Posted 02/06/2016 at 23:31:28
Yeah, Colin. Thanks for that !

Every fuckin night someone coughs up a personal "furball" to me. How the bloody hell am I supposed to bloody sleep ?

Tonight, I was a Moyes free, Dame Billiam free zone. Just for a few hours.

Conor Skelly
255 Posted 02/06/2016 at 23:31:35
Now 1/9.
Neil Wood
256 Posted 02/06/2016 at 23:41:59
As a player I despised why he did to us (England) .... However, I have to get over that and look to the future.

Like you Colin, I am starting to seem a little and can see us achieving something this coming season. Get shut of Lukaku and bring in Jansen and wijnaldum for starters.

Mark Pringle
257 Posted 03/06/2016 at 00:25:15
Absolutely top drawer appointment if it happens!! Top class player with major honours who will command respect in the dressing room. Proven in the league and to those saying he's another mid-table manager, he has finished above us in the last two seasons, winning away at the top 4 with regularity.

Plus we moan about non-Evertonians seeing this move as a step down for Koeman. Well if we are right and they are wrong then this makes his achievements in the last two seasons with a smaller club even more impressive. The man is being touted as the next Arsenal and Barca manager and some moan he only sees us a stepping stone.

Let's hope the new found direction of the club, that Koeman had been sold on, turns us back into the powerhouse we used to be and our new successful club surpasses the likes of Arsenal.

The man is straight talking and exudes class and ruthlessness. Onwards and upwards COYB!!!!

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