Rudderless Everton are drifting towards disaster

Now for a second rate version, Pulis? He may just be desperate enough.

I won't be there on Wednesday to watch Moyes bring a gun to a chimps tea party.

If Mr Walsh has a couple of strikers lined up for January 1st, Dyche could turn it around.

He wants the job, he is doing well on half the resources as us. He has untapped potential to improve a bigger club.

Our options are limited, but he could still be a sound choice at this point in time.

They are a disgrace and I see nothing but more anguish in the next few games.

I witnessed the debacle today and coming on TW has restored some faith. It's been a bit strange lately with film references and cryptic posts, but tonight I have read some of the finest and sensible offerings for ages and dare I say it, some unity. Maybe, just maybe, its the start of real acknowledgement of what's going on and can that common ground lead to some unity within the club.

Other small but no less important failures were our abysmal throw ins and set pieces. Opponents were positive with them but we were hesitant and without rhyme nor reason. I hope we have begun practicing them.

My biggest gripe is with our midfield where we have long had a surplus of lightweights that are easily brushed aside.

A lot is expected up front from Calvert-Lewin and the lad tries hard but is just not good enough. A trite description of his contribution would be, he floats like a bee and stings like a butterfly.

I do not mind if Lyndon does not use my post but it does me good to get those few grizzles of my chest.
NSNO and all that

Just how players NOT in the forward line/shirt are supposed to play when those/he (regardless of who the "he" might be) in the forward line/shirt are so lamentably unable to do the basics of what such a demanding role requires is beyond me. As a bog-standard Atalanta and Southampton have just proved, the disdain they had for our so-called "threat" means their whole defence could confidently afford to stay way further up the pitch than they normally would, their midfield could also do so, and their forwards therefore benefited from the wealth of possession their team had and the many chances they got to feed off, and that's goes for the past month or two at least.

Every club long since knows that the chances of us ever putting them under pressure are about as likely as Kenwright ever getting "professional" in developing the club to the standard the current owner demands.

Everton have been sabotaged from within. It matters not whether it was deliberately or accidentally done. It is unforgivable and it's the chairman's job to have prevented it or, minimum, sort it out NOW or resign in shame, or be fired.

Looking around the rest of the boardroom though, it looks bleak in terms of a successor, and Moshiri is increasingly showing he has as much grasp of the business of football ownership as I have of accountancy in multi-billion pound industries.

We have all said it on countless occasions that Schneiderlin has been rubbish all season and his pairing with Gueye just doesn't work plain and simple! Basic and Beni should of been in there with Rooney,Sandro and Viasic, sorry but Unsworth got it all wrong today and that was the worst display I have in years from an Everton side and yet they were there for the taking .

Another thing I noticed today was Pickford hitting it long all the time when we don't even have a target man, Calvert-Lewin can't hold the ball up he hasn't got the physicality and so every time the ball was whacked up to their half we turned over possession and also we are playing so deep inviting teams on its criminal, you keep the ball on the deck and work the channels with players busting a gut to support .

As for the defense well it goes without saying we have the worst back four in the league and shipping goals in at an alarming rate, I said after Thursdays diabolical display I didn't want to see Williams in a blue shirt again and yet he was the go to defender after Baines went off, surely Unsy could of switched things around without having to bring that useless lump on !! Poor poor game management.

With returning players back from injury I still we can get out of this in fact the guy I really want to see back is Mori and I never thought I would say that and hopefully we will have a manager in place this week. I maybe in the minority here but I am glad we are taking our time and not making a poor decision, I personally don't care for any of the dinosaurs that a lot of posters are calling for, Dyche (so glad he lost today Burnley are shite to watch) Big Sam, O'Neill or Pulis, let's hope its Silva or Rangnick.

I expect a big reaction Wednesday but Unworthy has to get the team and tactics spot on , goodnight fellow blues I am going to crack open that 15-year-old Malt and drown my sorrows!

God bless him, but he's out of his depth.

Not sure who's going to be hired. But we need an experienced, professional manager to keep us up.

Next season will bring what it brings. But it must be with Everton still in the top-flight.

Rick (3) - "You'll remember, Lyndon, when we signed Rooney, there was a consensus on this site that this man would lead us to a renaissance in the club's fortune. He would return to super form, he would be an example and a role-model for all our talented young players. "

Lyndon can't remember that Rick, because no one said it.

We really did look like a bunch of chucks running around with our heads cut off. Shameful, totally disorganised!

Hodgson has quickly settled Palace.

There's someone around can do the same for us.

Make no mistake, this squad would really struggle in the Championship and the liabilities we've got on long contracts are going to drag us down for years.

They get Salah, Mane and Coutinho for £80 million, we get Sigurdsson, Klaassen and Schneiderlin for £90 million! They've farmed out Origi; have Ings and Sturridge plus have the next teen Welsh superstar fighting for a place on the bench! I'd take a 4-0 defeat right now because it could easily be 7 or 8 if they're up for it.

This is as bad as it's ever been for an Evertonian. I never thought I'd say it, but I think we'd be in a much better place if we still had Martinez!

How can a team go from 7th to this after spending so much money

I have never seen a downturn such as this it's one step forward and two back every week from the most gutless and cowardly collection of players in living memory.

Most certainly we can no longer afford to be choosy about who should take charge. Quite simply we need someone to grind out some clean sheets and points with the current squad plus the players returning from injury. We cannot wait until January to start doing that. The recovery must start this week but I am far from sure it will.

In 2003-04, Rooney's second and final season before he left for Man Utd, we finished 17th with 39 points. I would happily take that now for 2017-18. At present it is hard to see how or where we might pick up 27 points from our remaining 25 games.

We almost certainly would have been better off keeping Martinez. Instead of wasting all of that money on Koeman, Walsh and a bunch of mediocre players, we could have given Martinez some cash to spend and appointed a top defensive coach to work with him.

Of course, Roberto's position had become untenable, so I suppose that he had to go, but I doubt that we'd be in such a mess had he stayed.

Hey but that's not enough, and Unsy must now step aside to force the board's hand. He will continue to do alright with the U23s or elsewhere if he so wishes, and good luck to him. He deserves (and deserved) better.

Do we have time to recover? Thankfully yes, but can we and under who's stewardship is anyone's guess.

These thoughts are consistent with just about every opinion I've read on the subject. Its now out in the public domain. It can't go on much longer. Can it?

Personally I think there is a division between the new order and the old school.

Moshiri wants the best and thinks money can buy it while Kenwright wants to surround himself with old has-beens who grovel at his every word.

Even Unsy speaks to him 4 or 5 times a day. FFS why? What pearls of wisdom does Bill impart about how to run and pick a team.

I would get the whole squad in and make them work on defensive drills until their feet were hurting and then they would feel some of the pain the supporters are going through.

£50k to £100 a week each for the players that wear the shirt should induce some pride but it doesn't so make it hurt.

Unsworth is totally out of his depth. Koeman was a rotten apple who had no idea how to spend money on players. We need a magician not a manager.

I have watched since 1947 and this is the worst ever... even than the year we were relegated. Strangely enough I actually do think that the players are trying. Players don't deliberately play badly.

Trouble is that they cannot play as individuals or as a team unless they are properly coached. If you look around at successful managers they are in good physical themselves.

Both Koeman and Unsworth have obviously spent too much time at the dinner table. I will always be a dyed in the wool "Blue".

For the sake of your loyal fans go and get a manager who, as previously mentioned,.. will also need some magical qualities. AND DO IT ASAP.

1. Sell our top scorer and not replace him.

2. Sign 4 no 10s.

3. Loan Galloway, Browning and Onyekuru with no ability to recall.

4. Fail to register Luke Garbutt. Baines is now injured and we have no fucking left back, as Galloway can't be recalled and Garbutt is in eligible, whilst Funes Mori was injured before deadline day.

5. Sack Koeman, 5 weeks later no replacement.

6. Give Unsy a game to game mandate - ie zero authority. It is precisely this lack of authority that is eating away at performances. Read Andy Hincliffe's comments for those who think Unsy is the reason the players are under performing - he says not even Guardiola could turn around this group of players.

7. Kept Kevin Mirallas - a cancerous influence if there ever was one. How many times has he been disciplined for poor behaviour? Why was he not allowed to leave at the end of the Window?

8. Let go Gareth Barry over Besic, who has been rank, whilst McCarthy has been injured, leaving Gueye and Schneiderlin as the only 2 DMs.

9. Allow Ross Barkley to run down his contract and to be shamefully treated by Ronald Koeman.

10. Allow the shameful treatment of Omar Niasse.

11. Fail to register Niasse for the Europa League when we had no senior striker.

12. Use Jim White as a mouth piece, whilst spouting how it was expected we would lose to the Big 5.

13. Disastrous and public chase of Marco Silva.

14. Undermine Unsy completely by not bothering to tell him the development on the coaching front further sapping his authority.

15. The complete waste of money that are Davy Klaassen, Michael Keane, Ashley Williams, Morgan Schneiderlin, Gylfi Sigurdsson.

16. Carry a totally bloated squad of 31 senior players.

These collective bunch of fuckwits, clowns and Charlatans have overseen the most unbelievable disintegration of a football club in a record time.

Unsy has no authority and the sooner a new manager is appointed the sooner the players will start to take responsibility. Even then, until the January Window, we are fucked.

No left back, centre back or striker.

Dark dark times.

Do think that at some point the entire culture of a club that since the late 80s has relied on this old boys network needs to be looked at. From Bill down to Duncan and the likes of Jeffers having roles at Goodison, do we need to break with the past and start again? At this point, someone to save the ever sinking ship would be good!

Root and branch surgery is required at all levels of the Club. But getting a manager and getting 40 points are the only two criteria of any importance this season now. Just effing sort it, Mr Moshiri!

I feel for the local lads, at least they try, this is so embarrassing and disappointing. Keane runs around like a frozen puppet, the other defenders aren't much better.

The easy going apathy maybe good fun for the players, on the training ground, but it's proved a disaster for the club, and now we will pay the awful price.

The Chairman has indulged himself in the deadly fantasy of having ex Everton player's run the club, thinking, because they have some knowledge of 'getting' Everton, that this alone will make a successful football team. Wrong !!!

All the naturally left-footed players have gone, so we have no centre half, one left back and no left sided midfielder or winger. No replacements have been signed or elevated to the squad. Garbutt, Galloway, Dowell, Barry – all gone. Incompetent to have let this happen – way before Unsworth so not his fault.

I know that it is hard to find positives, but I think Kenny looks the part. He has still got things to learn yet has a maturity beyond his few games and an excellent attitude. Should have been in the team all season. Reminds me of Gary Stevens at same age.

He looks like he cares and more to the point looks like he wants to do something about it.

The way he was shouting and passionately rousting the senior players was astonishing.

Not one of the senior players had half the passion.

Kenny had a go at Lookman. And good on him, plus he's done well but that is it. He is trying his best without anything looking special.

Kenny is 2 years away from being a regular Premier League player at present, he is miles off the pace. Just because he bollocked Lookman doesn't mean he was good. Where was he for the 1st goal. Sounds harsh but we haven't got anyone who is showing any kind of form.

Rooney on the bench whilst the guys on the pitch are performing this badly stinks.

Not one person can say they have seen a great level from Kenny and before you know, it becomes trendy until the damage is realised.

Kenny was at Southampton's corner flag bent double after being whacked in the eye.

I agree he is a season away from having a chance of being a regular starter in the Premier League. You can't doubt his fighting qualities though.

I would hope they would all show as much spirit.

I agree with all of your post but not about the players taking responsibility if we get a new Manager.

These players have no affection or interest if Everton go down or not. The Villa comparison is apposite. Perhaps a few of the local lads, Coleman, perhaps Gueye. I can't see any responsibility or passion in any of them. Soulless mercenaries.

I said it years ago: get the best trainers in from around the world and produce a team of 11 Everton scousers. Why , in a football mad city , we cant produce any footballers anymore? The last great player to come out of the city was Barkley.

Where was he for Everton's first goal? Doing what successful Everton full backs have been doing for years. Supporting the attack, battling hard to get a cross in. That is a big part of his game and should be a big part of how the team is set up.

He was felled by an arm across his face, deep in Southampton's left corner.

Yet in 3 passes, the ball was in the Everton net. Where was the alertness, the positioning, the tracking, the shouting and cajoling, from all the senior players behind him, to organize the team to ensure we weren't hit with a sucker counter punch?

If you were both so attentive to yesterday's debacle you would have noticed two distinct differences in Southampton's play in each half.

In the first half, they almost exclusively attacked down our left flank, targeting and overruning Baines and Sigurdsson every time. Kenny, on the right, dealt with everything that came his way.

With Baines' injury and withdrawal, the reshuffle saw the rawest kid in defence switched from right to left. In the second half, Southampton almost exclusively switched their attack from our left flank to our right flank where the next 2 goals after half time emanated from. Again, they got little or no joy when attacking Kenny, now on our left.

I for one am not easily impressed or taken in by 'typical Everton Kenny affection'.

I am impressed that in an excruciatingly poor run by the team, our young 20-year-old full back is not hiding, is obviously hurting and not being as forlorn, hapless and useless as many more of his much senior colleagues appear to be.

Unsworth should have gone for the point away from home but he is pressing the self destruct button each week in trying to win matches. 1 point from Leicester, Southampton and Palace due to Unsworth's naive tactics.

I know it sounds negative and cliched but we need to start making life difficult for teams when we are playing away. I know I am leaving myself open for a pasting here but we have to know our limits.

However, I was coming to Kenny's defence for your attack on him @ 51 and Paul Smith's endorsement of your comments @ 52.

As my previous post points out, he did his job yesterday.

The form and performances of pretty much every senior player at the club needs challenging way before targeting Kenny as you and Paul did, IMO.

No your not leaving yourself open for a pasting. Your view is correct. Unsworth has treated the games he has been in charge of as a personal audition for the job instead of steadying the ship.

He started it before his first game with the speech about playing the Everton way, got ripped apart and tried to tighten it up at 0-2.

Your opinion that he should have concentrated on making us hard to beat is 100% correct imo.

His tactical naivety has resulted in a deluge of goals conceded and what little confidence the players had has evaporated.

Also where were our two (none) defensive mids.

I absolutely 100 per cent agree with everything you have said in the post. You should be the voice of Everton mate.

Why go with runners when it is much easier to stand and stare, or gently jog giving the presence that you 'made an effort?'

Kenny was left trying to close down 2 men whilst nobody else get close.

Kevin Davies – get those boots dusted off.

Sam will not be everyone's cup of tea but if he saves us from the drop he will do me, I'd have anyone except the devil if they keep us up, if we stay up we can start sorting out the ones who put us in this position.

I would put my twopence worth in on Jonjoe Kenny, this is a lad who has come into a piss poor side/ defence and he is rallying them, he is the one who is running and tackling for ninety minutes, unlike Gary Stevens who came into a team who all spoke English and had plenty of back bone about them.

Kenny has come into a team of foreigners who have no affinity to Everton and all speak different languages and play for themselves, that is when they decide to have a go, Kenny if he stays at Everton is a future captain of the club.

Get behind him and kids like Tom Davies, Calvert Lewin, who will be avert good player, they are playing in a very poor team and getting no guidance on or off the field. Let's all get behind the team on Wednesday. Fuck the arguing for now we can do that when/if we get sorted out.