Style over substance? Everton must be careful what they wish for

When I see other teams in the division, outside of the top six playing some semblence of the game I recognise, I despair that for the last few years Everton have done nothing of the sort and believe it or not, it's gotten worse not better since Sam arrived.

Sam won 3 and drew 3 of his first six league games in charge and since then he's won 4, drawn 3 and lost 7 out of the fourteen league games played, hardly the signs of an improvement once the new manager bounce had ceased to influence things. I assume you have counted the West Ham games as part of Sam's 30 points, I haven't as Unsworth is in the record books as manager for that game.

I'll be careful what I wish for, but if the entertainment is not there and the results match the entertainment levels I can't see how anybody would not want a change of manager.

All we want is a manager to play attacking aggressive expansive football. What's the club coming too when some fans are fearful about losing Allardyce

Now, I imagine the blame for that can be spread far and wide, and I expect it goes past the management, and ultimately to the top of the club. The mistakes have been so basic that even a non-football fan could have spotted them. There's no way that's good enough. Selling a striker you are so heavily reliant on, and not replacing him was both catastrophic and an obvious mistake. You didn't need a crystal ball at the time to see that.

Buying both Sigurdsson and Rooney was another obvious mistake that the club sleepwalked into. You can't make mistakes like that and not get punished for them, and so it has proved.

As for the fans expecting too much, clearly our expectations are too low.

Having conceded the ball after all four kick offs, we didn't win it back again for long periods. If I recall correctly, our share of possession throughout the whole game was less than 20%.

Never mind pushing for a top 6 position, what we are witnessing in tactics would be inadequate in Division 2.

Allardyce and his coaching staff out!

Right. As winning and playing good football are mutually exclusive. Therefore, we should stick to a man whose tactics had us go through an 8 game spell where we could barely muster a shot on target.

Allardyce lovers are so easily taken in by the points we have accumulated since he took over, without acknowledging the easier run of fixtures he has had since taking charge.

We have won games we should be winning. What we have not done is laid a glove on the top 6 in our matches against them or indeed played anyone off the park. Why the fuck should we settle for a man whose philosophy centres only on beating the teams around him?

Martinez did try to play attractive football and his stubboness to adapt a little cost him his job. At least we were getting to semi-finals unlike the past few seasons when cup runs have been non-existent. So yes, I want style and substance!

So, some modicum of respect is what this manager deserves from us I believe, though, no, neither do I believe he's the right man to take us in to next season or beyond. Just, ffs, get a grip lads.. after Southampton we simply WERE NOT looking like a team that had much hope of turning things around. Disagree? Your perogative, but blue-tinted, Allardyce hating, specs on.. thats all that that denial actually boils down to isn't it? No? Okay, bollocks, I'll talk to the wall.

We have Sam fucking Allardyce, Duncan "the legend", away supporters insulting, money thief, Ferguson, Shakespeare and Sammy Kopite Lee. And you want us to be careful what we wish for?

Cut to, Guardiola just dominated the league with ease and Liverpool are back into a Champion League final, playing high scoring football. But yeah, we're Everton and we need to listen to those same English press and pundits and respect Allardyce for his greatness and occasional shot on goal. The message shouldn't be “be careful what you wish for”, it sounds more like “don't dare with for any better and know your place”. Pathetic is what it is.

Well, I wish to be entertained when I go to the match. Just occasionally, maybe even just once a season.

I wish I could actually look forward to going to the match.

I wish other teams dreaded having to playing us because they know they are in for a game.

I wish we beat the shite once in a while.

Because I wish my son was going be excited to be an Everton fan and be able to look forward to Monday morning at school after the Derby.

I wish our manager wasn't a tit.

I wish our chairman wasn't an embarrassing ham actor.

Those lot across the park get what they want because they make noises if they don't like it. We do as we are told. Thats the reality i'm afraid.

He has described how bitter he was at driving a Morris Marina while other players, infinitely more talented, by the way, drove Jags. Nothing wrong with ambition but, in my view, it has made him what he is.
This was demonstrated by his grubby efforts to make an extra few quid while he was a very well paid England manager.
He had no need to make to derogatory, utterly toe curling comments about Roy Hodgson; who is a winner and a vastly superior coach and man to Allardyce.
We were never going to be relegated with the squad we had and it certainly did not require " fireman Sam", to save us. I find it dismaying that Evertonians should be asking for respect for this appalling specimen. He has been hugely paid for producing the worst anti football I have ever seen at our club.

I want something to watch that doesn't induce my gag reflex.

Is that too much to ask?

If we drop down the table to get it right, fine. We need to be patient as f**k with the next manager, and give him a lot of time to get his system, playing style, and players in and gelling.

It took Man City and El Stink a few years to get it right. Hell, Liverpool were conceding goals at a Martinez pace! They got it right, signed Van Dyck, and look where they are now

Bring in a guy who wants to play the right way. I'm ready to suffer for a while to get this right.

The suffering is nothing compared to the crap we are forced to "watch" currently.

It has been the same every game, when we either concede or kick off to start the half, pass back and big punt upfield.

Great tactics Sam.

Pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass ... for about 5 minutes, we chased the ball, didn't touch it and then all the impetus had gone, both from the players and the crowd. It was a masterful display of how you take the sting out of the game when you're leading but the opposition are getting on top. The kept the ball very easily, didn't do anything with it, and we couldn't do anything to get it back.

I wish for it for as long as I'm alive.

I don't want to be careful. All my successes have come from taking risks.

We had years of standing still, being careful, knowing our limits, knowing our place. Now were taking risks and messing up. That's fine by me - we'll get closer to success that way.

Careful is boring. I'll stick with the wishers.

Anyone who immediately does not have a plan is not worth considering. So the gravy slurper wouldn't have got past question 1.

The closest Sam has gotten to a "signature result" was the draw at Anfield - a match in which we ceded 80% of the possession and basically prayed for a penalty. Otherwise, we've been hammered worse than ever by the top six. Some may disagree, but frankly, I'm not seeing a single result on his resume that Koeman couldn't have realistically duplicated.

Just ask the top 6.

For the record we havent played many top teams under Allardyce, so results should have been better than early season, but when we have we were like lambs.

That is not the sort of inspiration I want for EFC.

Nor do I want to see 1 or 0 shots on target in each game.

That is the Allardyce recipe and the reason those teams went down after he left was because the substance was taken out of them.