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Vlasic to join CSKA Moscow on loan

| Saturday, 11 August 2018 42comments  |  Jump to last
Nikola Vlasic might have found a club for the coming season if reports in Russia suggesting he will sign for CSKA Moscow are true.

The young Croatian, an £8m signing last year from Hajduk Split, has been made available for loan this season after Marco Silva determined that he would not have role in Everton's first team this season.

There were was speculation on transfer deadline day that CSKA were interested and there are now reports in Russia claiming that his season-long loan move there is now official.

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Derek Knox
1 Posted 11/08/2018 at 01:02:04
This is better for him and the squad reduction, than have him hanging around, and not even making the bench. I feel there is a player there somewhere, but I said that about Klaassen.

Hopefully, he either comes back a better player, or it works out for him and a sale can be agreed between both Clubs.

Peter Gorman
2 Posted 11/08/2018 at 01:16:15
Talented enough but a bit of a sourpuss. I see him whispering too much with Schneiderlin for my liking so that's enough for him to be deemed a bad apple in my head.
Mike Gaynes
3 Posted 11/08/2018 at 01:20:54
Good for him and the club. If he grows into a player, great, we bring him back and give him the chance he has never had here. And if not, he's in a good spot to restart his career.
Derek Knox
4 Posted 11/08/2018 at 02:16:45
Peter, isn't it strange that all reports of disharmony and disruption involve Schneiderlin?

I have never hidden my dislike of him, and don't intend to in the future, but the sooner we get rid of the overpaid, over-rated waste of space the better.

Ernie Baywood
5 Posted 11/08/2018 at 02:28:53
You don't need background rumours to see Schneiderlin's character. He displays it to thousands on the pitch each week. Lazy, cowardly, happy to see others do the work or take the risks that he won't. He'd rather give away a cheap foul than chase down for a tackle.

It's the reason why a player like Besic is so much more appreciated despite not having a fraction of his ability.

He's a bad apple and we know what that does to the bunch.

Gavin Johnson
6 Posted 11/08/2018 at 03:22:05
Maybe Vlasic is guilty by association but the way his sister and dad were making noises on twitter and in the press, it isn't difficult to surmise that he was one of the disruptive players at Finch Farm.

I'd be hoping we could sell him before the European window closes but a loan will do. We need to get players who aren't 100% on board out of the club.

Peter Gorman
7 Posted 11/08/2018 at 03:45:17
Sadly I was one of those who thought Schneiderlin would be a classy player for us. I didn't foresee the complete lack of effort and courage which we've all come to know too well.

If some young prospect like Vlasic couldn't get game time under Koeman or Allardyce then it would be only too human for him to wonder about his future at the club. What is worrying is that the appointment of Silva should have been a fresh start and he doesn't appear to have made a great first impression.

Silva has mentioned a few times that he has analysed his squad technically and also repeatedly mentioned the need for commitment and fight from his players. It is probably telling that Lookman is going nowhere whilst Vlasic is off on loan.

Steven Astley
8 Posted 11/08/2018 at 07:02:14
He's a bad egg. I did try telling you.
Kelvin Thomas
9 Posted 11/08/2018 at 08:03:23
Exactly Peter, he isn’t good enough.
Wide or as a number 10 we have numerous better players.
Hope he does well because he’ll need a permanent transfer.
Robert Leigh
10 Posted 11/08/2018 at 08:05:23
Vlasic seemed so bright early on, really keen to step up to Premier League level football; and seemed capable.

Whether its mis-Management by dropping him for other players not in form, or whether he has a poor attitude - he wasn't the same after Christmas (looks heavier than when he signed).

I would say though, two Croatia caps and a Champions League team being interested in him must mean some see him in a different light to us.

Hopefully he comes back having had a great season and does well for us, as is my hope for all Everton loanees; but if not a sale for a profit will do nicely.

Schneiderlain - I think a lot of us are frustrated because he CAN be a player, it isn't like he has no talent whatsoever.

Colin Glassar
11 Posted 11/08/2018 at 08:38:01
I don’t necessarily blame the players, I blame Koeman, Walsh and fat Sam for almost destroying us in one season. M&M have a huge rebuilding job on their hands but they’ve started well.

As for Schneiderlin being one of the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse, successive Everton managers continue to pick, and play, him so they must see something in him most of us don’t.

Ernie Baywood
12 Posted 11/08/2018 at 09:03:00
True Colin, but while they have the 'benefit' of seeing him in training, they haven't seen him play anywhere near as much as you and I have.

I put him in the Mirallas category. Every manager persevered with Mirallas and every pre season looked like a fresh start for him. That's because he's got talent - he's probably a decent bloke too. His problems are not due to a lack of ability.

You can well believe a manager looking at Schneiderlin's in training and thinking "he's got ability, I need to use him".

Give it a few months and Silva will reach the same conclusion as us.

Tony Everan
13 Posted 11/08/2018 at 09:55:55
Vlasic was a ridiculous signing, on a whim, after we played Hajduk. What were Walsh and Koeman thinking? He may well have stood some sort of chance if we didn’t already have many players vying for his position. It epitomises the scattergun and thoughtless recruitment under Walsh and Koeman.

I hope he gets game time with CSKA, he needs it. He will have a chance then improve and prove himself. I think his disharmony stems from total frustration that he is way down the pecking order. So I wish him good luck and success in Russia.

Steve Ferns
14 Posted 11/08/2018 at 10:41:26
Ernie, do you really think Silva has watched all the games last season (and probably more) and not noticed any issues? This ain’t some naive young coach. He’s already proved how ruthless he can be.

I don’t believe we see something he doesn’t. More he sees something we don’t.

So, on to Vlasic, he’s a good young player. He’s just not as good as Lookman or Charlie. He lacks the speed to play on the wing, and he’s a long way off getting in as a number 10. He’s probably on a par with Dowell and they’re around the same age. I see better passing and vision from Dowell though and I think it’s the local lad who will be the better player. I’d sell Vlasic.

Grant Rorrison
15 Posted 11/08/2018 at 10:42:44
I don't think he looked that bad the few times I saw him. Think he paid the price for the guy who signed him leaving suddenly and then that fat bloke trying to blag the job by keeping the senior pro's and his under 23's happy with promises of game time. Finally we had 'Dire Plan Sam' and his variation of Moyes flat back 8. He wasn't going to get a game then with both 'attacking' positions in his team taken by the big money arrivals of Walcott and Tosun. All in all a bit unlucky with the way things have panned out for him over the last 12 months.

John McGimpsey
16 Posted 11/08/2018 at 11:00:20
Get shut; ordinary at best...
Denis Richardson
17 Posted 11/08/2018 at 11:17:41
We paid £8m for him??

Another write off.

Jack Convery
18 Posted 11/08/2018 at 12:28:08
Timing in football and the timing for Vlasic was awful.

Martinez made the coffin. Koeman and Walsh put us in it and Sam banged in the nails. Then came the resurectionists in M,M&M, who have breathed new life into the fans at least.

Let's hope the corpse responds too at Molinuex today.

Jon Withey
19 Posted 11/08/2018 at 12:41:13
A decent enough player when he was putting the effort in, and not our worst signing by a long shot.

Looked like he couldn't really be bothered in pre-season and there are plenty of players that I'd pick ahead of him now.

Needs game time - a loan is perfect.

Raymond Fox
20 Posted 11/08/2018 at 12:54:45
Colin, how did Allardyce almost destroy us in one season? We did finish 8th, and he didn't buy any duds.

It's this kind of cobblers that gets spouted on here and becomes fact if it's repeated enough times!

Let's face it — we weren't exactly burning up the Prem before he came.

Harry Hockley
21 Posted 11/08/2018 at 13:22:20
Waste of money but at least he can start again in Russia, Never know if he does well he may get another crack here.

Showed flashes of ability but looked a bit bothered at times and needs to play which he won't get here at the moment so good luck to him.

Edmund Burrows
22 Posted 11/08/2018 at 13:28:13
Does anyone know how many non-EU players we have and how many we can play?
Harry Hockley
23 Posted 11/08/2018 at 13:37:42
Schneiderlin can't stay out the news can he,and rightly so, myself I liked him when he first arrived thought he was very decent but how things have changed.

He won't last long with Silva at the helm unless he has a transformation in his whole demeanor and way he plays, Silva will give him a chance I'm sure but I'm not the only one hoping he sees what a liability he is and gets rid the guys toxic.

Steve Ferns
24 Posted 11/08/2018 at 13:41:59
Sorry Edmund. I’m not sure. I thought Bernard had a Spanish passport but apparently not. So he’s 1.

2. Richarlison.

3. Mina.

4. Martina has a Dutch passport so he’s ok.

5. Tosun has a German passport so he also doesn’t count.

6. Zouma is French if you wondered about him.

7. Bolasie is also French, but plays for the country of his parents.

8. Gueye has a French passport.

9. Baningime is English (moved to Liverpool as an infant).

10. I think that’s it, but I could be wrong. So my guess is 3. I am sure that 3 is the maximum number we have in our squad (including subs).

Kristian Boyce
25 Posted 11/08/2018 at 15:05:48
Edmund, unlike other leagues, I don't believe the Premier League has a cap on non-EU players.
Peter Gorman
26 Posted 11/08/2018 at 15:07:45
"that fat bloke trying to blag the job" - are you referring to Unsworth, Grant?

Simply amazing.

Jerome Shields
27 Posted 11/08/2018 at 17:13:57
CSKA Moscow play a similar style of football to what he is used to. I have the feeling that he won't be playing for Everton again. He will need to get down to work now and tell his pole-vaulting sister to shut up.
Steavey Buckley
28 Posted 11/08/2018 at 22:26:06
After watching Walcott play so awful today, Vlasic does play better on the right than when forced to play on the left side.
Tony Abrahams
29 Posted 11/08/2018 at 22:31:50
Meaning what Steavey, that we should wait and see how Walcott, plays in the next couple of games, and maybe loan him out instead?

Steavey Buckley
30 Posted 11/08/2018 at 22:37:34
What Everton need to have a successful season is Walcott playing consistently, because he is part of that 3 up front, that needs to be a constant attacking threat. Today, him and Tosun contributed so little it was left to Richarlison. And hope he recovers for next week.
Seamus McCrudden
31 Posted 11/08/2018 at 22:55:13
Walcott is a 60% man no more, laps tackles, doesn't get stuck in & he will soon be marginalised if he won't up his game. Shame really as where's the desire as he has the ability?
Ed Prytherch
32 Posted 11/08/2018 at 23:10:34
Jerome, his "pole vaulting sister" is the second best female high jumper of all time.
John Raftery
33 Posted 11/08/2018 at 23:59:54
Vlasic is a young player from another country who suddenly found himself in a massive, unsettled squad with a poor manager and no clear pattern of play. Little wonder he struggled.

We really have no idea about his attitude or behaviour behind the scenes but the idea he might be an option instead of Walcott is laughable.

Peter Gorman
34 Posted 12/08/2018 at 00:04:15
One of the few (well, two) things Allardyce got right at Everton was bringing Walcott and Tosun to the club.

I'm amazed people dismiss Theo as readily as they do. Wasn't he injured most of pre-season? And then people call him shite for not being up to speed.

Chris Corn
35 Posted 12/08/2018 at 00:09:18
Apparently not, Peter. Tosun and Walcott both duds after today.
Davie Turner
36 Posted 12/08/2018 at 04:13:20
Shame, but these things happen.

Seemed an odd signing after he played well against us, out of the blue panic?

Tony Abrahams
37 Posted 12/08/2018 at 09:11:04
Seamus @31, I haven't been to an away game for two seasons, but I watch most of these games on my telly, and my own opinion is that I've rarely seen Walcott play well away from Goodson Pak. He doesn't look as strong or as brave away from home.
Justin Doone
38 Posted 13/08/2018 at 04:15:40
Vlasic is a very promising talent, he has a different skill set to Lookman but both can play similar forward roles. Lookman has the better individual skills and Vlasic more a team player looking for one two's.

I think Vlasic will become more of a central midfielder when he matures but Everton and Silva need players for now and there is a lot of competition for the forward roles which is great for the team and fans, not so much for young players.

English players are a premium price and I'm guessing giving both Lookman and Dowell continued time with an improving squad may help them realise how high the bar is being lifted.

They all need to put the effort in and keep improving. I hope Vlasic enjoys his loan and gets to play and develop. I say this more for sale value as sadly I don't think he will become an Everton regular.

I think Dowell and Lookman will both go out on loan eventually as they need regular competitive games to develop further.

As for Walcott he's the typical pacey head down and run forward player, not so much a creative player. I think he was a good signing, had pace and can score but he was always inconsistent at Arsenal due to injuries and limited skills.

Richarlison and Bernard are far superior so if everyone stays injury free it will be interesting to see how much game time he gets. Same for Sigurdsson.

Nick Armitage
39 Posted 13/08/2018 at 14:56:50
Too slow for the Premier League. Another poorly researched signing by the previous regime. Offload asap.
Neil Pickering
40 Posted 15/08/2018 at 09:49:39
Hopefully this has an option to buy attached as well because this lad is shite.
Paul Birmingham
41 Posted 15/08/2018 at 21:42:04
Best move all around.

Was this an impulse buy based on x2 games in the Europa last season?

If so then unlikely we’ll be trading this way in the future under M&M.

Andy Meighan
42 Posted 16/08/2018 at 15:05:12
Another signing by the footballing genius that is Ronald Koeman. No thought behind it other than he had a decent game in a Europa League qualifier. Shocking... and another to go with the rest of the trash he accrued.

Even this early, Silva and Brands have seen right through the scattergun approach applied by Koeman and Walsh. I just hope Schneiderlin goes the same way.

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