The Turk has struggled to make an impact at Goodison Park following his move from Besiktas and he has fallen down the pecking order behind Dominic Calvert-Lewin in recent weeks.
The Liverpool Echo claim that the club have set an asking price and have fielded enquiries from other teams for both Tosun and Oumar Niasse but as yet there is nothing concrete on the table apart from a potential loan which Everton won't consider.
Meanwhile, MailSport report that Morgan Schneiderlin and Oumar Niasse could also be sold before the end of the transfer deadline.
They say that there is "tentative" interest in Schneiderlin from AS Roma and that Crystal Palace have enquired about Tosun and Niasse.
Original Source: Liverpool Echo
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1 Posted 12/01/2019 at 16:49:05
2 Posted 12/01/2019 at 16:56:11
Another failed transfer and net loss. Farhad Moshiri will be getting shrewder with the wallet.
3 Posted 12/01/2019 at 16:56:35
4 Posted 12/01/2019 at 16:59:33
5 Posted 12/01/2019 at 17:04:20
Only really think of Fellaini and Pienaar that proved a roaring success from weaker European leagues.
We have been burned too often.
6 Posted 12/01/2019 at 17:09:09
7 Posted 12/01/2019 at 17:09:55
8 Posted 12/01/2019 at 17:20:50
(Maybe not “overseas” but a weaker European league.)
9 Posted 12/01/2019 at 17:35:21
10 Posted 12/01/2019 at 17:39:02
Eriksen came from Holland and proved to be one of the best midfielders in Europe.
Van Dijk came from Scotland and is the best defender in the league.
Tosun would suit a team that plays to his style. I think he'd do well for a team like Palace, Cardiff, Newcastle, Burnley and the likes. He'd get goals to help keep them up.
He just doesn't fit our style, nor our ambitions.
11 Posted 12/01/2019 at 18:01:45
12 Posted 12/01/2019 at 18:05:54
Tosun is too slow for the Premier League, despite the five goals last season it was clear that he was no presence nor mobile focal point and this season we have seen the limitations even more.
Weve been burned too many times with these types of buys.
13 Posted 12/01/2019 at 18:26:59
14 Posted 12/01/2019 at 18:38:31
I'm not the type to say "We need this and this and this" and pass the responsibility.
“It's not my way, I am here to work for Everton Football Club, not to work for myself. I'm here to work with the players we have. If you ask me tomorrow which positions we need to improve, they are always in my mind. "
15 Posted 12/01/2019 at 18:41:10
16 Posted 12/01/2019 at 18:48:20
17 Posted 12/01/2019 at 19:11:39
I know prices are ridiculous but there may be a team somewhere who are willing to gamble on him or even involve a player in exchange for a slightly lesser fee. I am a great believer in 'horses for courses' and believe that both managers and players alike can either flourish or fail at certain Clubs, yet turn out to be a success at others.
It will probably as usual all happen in the dying minutes of the window, but hopefully we can not only ship the usual suspects out, but get some quality too.
18 Posted 12/01/2019 at 19:37:56
Another huge loss. We might get 2 players in from the money off 6 or 7 fringe players in all fairness, but they have to be quality.
19 Posted 12/01/2019 at 19:49:19
Do we actually have a style of play???
20 Posted 12/01/2019 at 19:58:50
21 Posted 12/01/2019 at 20:00:37
They add nothing anyway. We could get by for the rest of the season without them and buy in the summer. This season is over bar staying up.
22 Posted 12/01/2019 at 20:16:13
It would be ideal to sell both of them and bring a new striker in; I doubt if we can be that lucky.
23 Posted 12/01/2019 at 21:07:42
I cannot see us getting anywhere near £20 Million for Tosun so, unless we take a much-reduced price, he will be here for the rest of the season.
24 Posted 12/01/2019 at 21:52:55
25 Posted 12/01/2019 at 22:08:02
Find a fucking system that gets him goals then so we can flog him off to someone, it ain't gonna happen if he's sitting on the bench every week.
Either that or fucking coach him. All of these players mentioned are assets to the company, neglecting them reduces their worth to the business and potential to re-sell. Schneiderlin, Tosun et al should have been getting some game time to get them in the shop window at the very least.
26 Posted 12/01/2019 at 22:18:56
Play Schneiderlin? 😂😂😂
27 Posted 12/01/2019 at 22:19:09
Should be a warning to us really – don't panic buy in the January transfer window.
28 Posted 12/01/2019 at 22:19:45
29 Posted 12/01/2019 at 22:23:52
I don't turn up week-in and week-out to watch second class players strolling around the pitch contributing nothing. I want to see the best players we have in the squad trying to win games.
It's not about the bottom line when you're at the game. It's about beating the opposition with a modicum of flair. I know that's not happening but I don't want to see lesser players taking us further away from where we want to be.
30 Posted 12/01/2019 at 22:44:19
It's hardly about finding a system to get Tosun scoring goals.
He's missed a shit load of chances this season; we've created so many chances across the campaign and Tosun has been one of the main culprits when he's been on the pitch of missing good chances. The one against Newcastle in December and the half-arsed attempt in injury time against Leicester two weeks ago spring to mind, as well as a catalogue of chances in August and September.
We aren't a charity to allow players runs of shit performances being tolerated. I want players that at least offer a nuisance factor and a presence in the team even when they aren't scoring but Tosun offers zero in that form either.
31 Posted 13/01/2019 at 00:40:19
Talking of Tosun, Niasse, Schneiderlin, Bolasie, Walcott and so on and so on is a solid way to get really depressed without taking into consideration the responsibility of the guy at the top of the tree, our esteemed (to fantasists) Chairman.
The club has been riven with disease for decades but this disease is human, not biological. That means it can be removed fairly easily. It should have been removed three years ago when Moshiri bought in, but it wasn't.
And some of us still talk about peripheral matters such as this or that player but Kenwright's continuing association with our club is going to blight us until Moshiri finds a way to get rid of the bugger entirely, reducing him to a mere season-ticket holder.
In a way, Kenwright would impress me by actually buying one and making a contribution but, given his record of screwing us for his personal gain, I think I've more chance of looking Japanese when I wake up tomorrow. Hah so!
(And apologies to Mike Gaynes, who takes umbrage at me constantly pointing out the abject depths to which we've plunged under Kenwright's tenure.)
32 Posted 13/01/2019 at 01:42:11
Never mind the fact that the only way he'd positively impact his value is if he plays extremely well and if he was playing extremely well, we wouldn't be looking to sell him in the first place.
As for Tosun, he gets a bit of a bad rap. As others have pointed out, the main issue is that he's a poor fit for Silva's system. There are plenty of Premier League sides he'd do well for.
33 Posted 13/01/2019 at 03:00:40
He can't hold the ball up, link up play, nor beat defenders.
His running off the ball is suspect.
He never wins a 50-50... and don't mention his heading ability.
In short, he is more suited to Tranmere than Everton and although I have nothing against the lad (just the numbskull that decided to buy him), I would be glad if he never appeared for us again.
34 Posted 13/01/2019 at 05:46:31
Tosun needs to play in a front two from what I've seen, but suspect he could do well at Palace or he needs to try Scotland or The Championship. There's a good player in there, and one that could become talismanic but it's just not worked out with small cameos... and he was awful against Newcastle.
Niasse is suited to a lone striker... because he's so erratic, he doesn't seem to be able to play with anyone around him. He scores goals though. Cardiff.
Schneiderlin is best playing in Fifa/PES or some other computer game. Maybe we could sell him as glue?
35 Posted 13/01/2019 at 05:59:07
Unfortunately, Silva looks to be about to join the list of Moshiri's mistakes.
36 Posted 13/01/2019 at 06:52:10
Other than that, he's the best Turkish striker at Everton.
37 Posted 13/01/2019 at 07:53:51
"Missed a catalogue of chances in August and September"? He may have been poor, but if we created a catalogue of chances for him to miss, we must have been doing when the rest of us were not looking
For every chance missed by Tosun, I could show you 2-3 missed by Aguero, Kane or Salah. You have to laugh at the quaint little notion that mediocre strikers should be converting every chance.
"He's missed a shitload of chances this season" ... fuck me. He couldn't have started more than 2-3 games in the past 4 months, he hasn't been on the pitch long enough to miss a "shitload of chances".
I was going to say you couldn't make it up, but quite clearly you can!
38 Posted 13/01/2019 at 08:09:07
If we would create such a shit-load of chances, I expect we would not be in the bottom half of the league!!
39 Posted 13/01/2019 at 08:27:26
40 Posted 13/01/2019 at 08:50:42
Silva has had plenty of time to suss this squad and he seems to be very confused. Are we playing 4 or 3 at the back today? Will we play Calvert-Lewin again within a 4-2-3-1 system... I don't know. Does he yet? Pochetino he ain't.
I am certain that all of the players singled out above can do a job and more for most Premier League teams. All of them!! The problem is too many players, too many managers and too many changes.
Spurs and Liverpool (and QPR) all tried throwing money around thinking that was all that was needed. It isn't. Spurs eventually got it right but that was as much down to luck with Alli and Kane, and other kids coming through.
Yes, we have to trim the squad and build around... build around who? Build around Barkley, Lukaku, Deulofeu, Stones. What we had to do before was buy quality to add to a successful team. After finishing 5th, we ripped that team up instead of adding quality to it.
So here we are trying to find a core group of players while desperately trying to offload players and managers costing us around £100M.
I'm sorry but I think this season's manager is a dud. He will hopefully prove me wrong. 17 players on loan. Are we Chelsea now?
41 Posted 13/01/2019 at 08:56:56
Interestingly, Richarlison has scored the same amount of league goals as Callum Wilson from a similar amount of shots. We already have a player who will score if we can improve our play in the final third. Richarlison has had his customary Christmas dip in form; hopefully now he can get scoring again.
42 Posted 13/01/2019 at 09:14:06
Tosun is a decent finisher but his all-round game appears lacking currently. Of course, confidence has a lot to do with it and his (like many Everton players) is low at the moment.
43 Posted 13/01/2019 at 09:26:04
44 Posted 13/01/2019 at 09:33:05
45 Posted 13/01/2019 at 09:37:26
And Walcotts shooting accuracy is 43% so worse than all 3, according to the Premier League statistics.
46 Posted 13/01/2019 at 09:41:43
It says 65% of Walcott's shots are on target there.
As for how clinical a striker is. I think it's the percentage that end up in the back of the net. ;)
47 Posted 13/01/2019 at 09:55:13
I have no time for these stats whatsoever. This is a classic case. One site has Walcott with 43% accuracy and another has him on 65%... That's some fucking swing there, mate.
Salah and Kane are better players than Tosun, but they also get better chances and more of them.
On another note; Just watched Jamie Vardy throw himself on the deck looking for a penalty and play was just waved on. Happens every week. What happened to this "diving panel" who so readily banned Niasse... has that been scrapped?
48 Posted 13/01/2019 at 09:57:37
49 Posted 13/01/2019 at 10:00:02
Our issues at the moment are widespread as the team as a whole is not playing well. The right side has been an issue even when we were playing well and is more of a crisis for me. Also, we seem to have 3 left wingers (it seems to be Lookman, Richarlison and Bernard's best position) and only Walcott for the right. Bernard while he looks a good signing was maybe not the best use of resources for a position we have options for.
50 Posted 13/01/2019 at 10:06:22
So, cheat all you like, lads – just don't get caught. Yeah, that'll clean football up.
51 Posted 13/01/2019 at 11:24:03
Andy Gray & keys were talking about it the other week, saying how come he is the only one to be banned? That was on the topic of Mo Salha not getting banned. And taking advantage of our non-interfering board who like to let everyone walk over us.
Arsenal away in the FA Cup. Took off us a couple of thousand tickets (because of safety); however, their fans were seated in the same seats we were supposed to have.
Millwall FA Cup, have now adopted the Everton lie down method and reduced our allocation of tickets. Has anyone heard about our board getting involved?
All our managers start off with good intentions but all end up reverting back to the old system. I can only put it down to our board's reluctance to interfere with anything. I think our board would like our motto to be Plucky Little Everton.
mention Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd, Arsenal = Cup
Mention Everton = EitC – which is good but I prefer the above.
52 Posted 13/01/2019 at 11:37:59
Perfectly okay for one of their pundits to gob at a young girl and just get a slap on the wrist. Didn't know English football still had ethics to boot.
53 Posted 13/01/2019 at 12:18:42
The fact that Niasse was one of only two people banned so far is ridiculous. I don't go in for the ‘world against us' conspiracies but this one is pretty compelling.
54 Posted 13/01/2019 at 18:36:42
Clearly Tosun isn't as good as Shearer, but Shearer played in an era when every team except ourselves and Bolton played with 2 strikers. It would be interesting to see how Shearer would fair as a lone striker today?
At another club and in another formation, Tosun will be fine. He just doesn't suit Everton.
55 Posted 13/01/2019 at 18:53:58
56 Posted 13/01/2019 at 19:18:31
What Shearer had over Tosun is that he was stronger and had much better positional sense, could win more headers and had a fierce shot. Just a much better version of Tosun.
Shearer made the comparison with Tosun himself. I ain't going to argue with him.
57 Posted 13/01/2019 at 22:50:46
58 Posted 13/01/2019 at 23:27:18
Shearer was one of the best centre-forwards I've seen play and, while he wasn't a speed machine, he was fast enough. Scored some amazing goals, especially against us.
Tosun, I have to say, is not fit to lace Shearer's boots.
59 Posted 13/01/2019 at 23:33:56
There was the Chelsea scout who came out and said he'd been scouted and they'd considered signing Tosun and he thought he was an excellent finisher. There's a myriad of reasons why it ain't worked out for him this season, but loss of confidence, playing under Silva in a different system haven't helped.
IMO, he needs a strike partner. He's definitely not a lone striker and he's got more chance of scoring at home when we aren't relying as much on counter-attack football. He's not been really getting the service or getting in the right positions but he can finish. I don't change my stance on that.
60 Posted 13/01/2019 at 23:38:57
Switching to 3 in the middle was what was required in the first half against Bournemouth today however would have required removing the ineffective Gomes, or Gana, the latter of which options I'm sure the manager is loathed to choose based on our performances without him so far.
It is evident that we are not creating enough chances and are conceding midfield to lesser teams, so a Plan B (or new Plan A) is required.
61 Posted 13/01/2019 at 00:07:05
I watched the game on YouTube recently and it was that eye-catching turn of pace that reminded me I was actually at the game. The surprise at what I just witnessed was exactly the same as all those years ago, watching from the Lower Bullens.
Anyway, back to Cenk. Decent player but not exactly putting the Fear of God into the opposition. We need much better but I'd fully expect him to do well in weaker leagues.
It's clear we need a centre-forward but what type of striker do we need to best fit this system – I have no idea?!
62 Posted 14/01/2019 at 10:29:30
I believe one Timothy Cahill was purchased from Millwall, Seamus was bought for a couple of quid from Ireland. I also remember Landon Donovan having an excellent spell with us on loan having come from the MLS.
Premier League experience doesn't guarantee a player will perform better than someone with no experience in the league. This season has proved if you do it properly your recruitment can be a success. Compare us to the last couple of seasons.
I have a lot more faith in the current set-up to bring the right players in while you've also got to acknowledge you won't get it right all the time.
63 Posted 14/01/2019 at 11:03:20
All strikers need confidence, backing, and a run in the team. It hasn't worked out for us but I think he could still be productive for a smaller club.
64 Posted 14/01/2019 at 11:08:15
Calvert-Lewin's little back pass didn't do too bad yesterday though, ey!
65 Posted 14/01/2019 at 15:02:00
66 Posted 14/01/2019 at 15:30:07
Would it be worth taking such a chance on the Tranmere striker, Norwood? He has no real pace, he's too small to worry a big centre-back in the air, but wherever he's played he's scored goals.
Some lads don't seem to have any of the attributes normally associated with a striker bar one important one: a knack of being in the right place at the right time. As back-up, he'd fit the bill and there's one or two centre-forwards who've graced both Prenton and Goodison Parks!
67 Posted 14/01/2019 at 15:31:17
Darren Hind rightly points out that Tosun has not missed that many chances and I would point out that nearly every shot he has had has been saved. That means he has been getting his shots on target. He has only popped one or two over the bar or wide.
He needs a strike partner, a big ball winner. Alongside a Giroud he would bag plenty. He is clinical in the box and is a finisher.
He ain't great but he's not shit.
68 Posted 14/01/2019 at 17:37:31
The 4-3-3 system, which is the choice of most at the moment, doesn't suit his style of play, and probably never will. Look at the strikers who are doing well in this system: Aguero, Aubameyang... even Salah. They are very agile and quick, nothing like Tosun. Even Richarlison, who is better from the left, is similar to the mentioned player's style.
69 Posted 14/01/2019 at 17:59:02
I don't mind those type of back passes... just hope I can jinx a few more of them!
70 Posted 14/01/2019 at 20:08:51
So, how on earth do we expect him to score? He can only be in the right place, at the right time so often. He was a poor signing and needs to be offloaded as quickly as possible, along with the even worse Niasse.
71 Posted 14/01/2019 at 21:26:35
72 Posted 14/01/2019 at 22:12:05
£20 mill? Dream on.
73 Posted 15/01/2019 at 01:25:43
We are a small club like them – the proof is in the results, the bad performances, the managers appointed, the board still having Bungalow Bill here... We still don't have a striker of any real quality; we still have not beaten our local rivals in how many seasons?
We are a small club in every way except we have enough older fans who can remember us once being a big club... but tick, tock – there's a whole lotta generations that only know failure and mediocrity.
Time waits for no-one... And we're slipping further behind with each season. Over to you, Mr Money Bags with no clue on how to invest wisely into this once proud institution.
No decent striker will sign for Everton in this window or the summer window. This is why Silva is trying to mould a winger into a stricker...
74 Posted 15/01/2019 at 09:20:43
75 Posted 15/01/2019 at 21:59:44
I can see Sky now putting in a bid to televise it over 3 days with their minions and RS expert pundits giving their opinions on the 'lots' as they go under the hammer.
Sky will obviously insist on the players WAG parading around with a board informing the bidders how much her fella will require as a wage. Beats Celebrity Up The Jungle any time.
76 Posted 16/01/2019 at 14:05:04
I was only joking — but we need a laugh today!
77 Posted 16/01/2019 at 14:22:26
78 Posted 16/01/2019 at 14:22:59
Your joke is well placed just shows how far behind Spurs we have fallen, 6 -7 years ago we were slightly better than Spurs now light-years behind as the recent league game proved. They don't spend anywhere near what we spend but what they do spend is spent very wisely.
Come the summer, we will have 7 or 8 players that will need moving on but, short of practically giving them away, I can't see clubs being interested – especially the money they are on here.
79 Posted 16/01/2019 at 15:19:43
80 Posted 16/01/2019 at 15:37:38
I think it was possibly his first goal for us (or one of) where he drilled the ball into the top corner from a Baines cut-back. No pace, no hold-up play, no strength required. Just good finishing which he clearly has.
His conversion rate was so high in fact that I for one brashly suggested he could be close to 20 goals this season with better service. Well, that's not quite come to pass and looks highly unlikely now he is not near Silva's starting eleven.
But to dismiss him as shite is just silly. I think those who point out the lack of confidence (which tbh, is a sin in my book as it doesn't exactly cry a winning mentality and God knows we need one) and the fact he doesn't fit the current system have about the truth of it.
81 Posted 16/01/2019 at 16:29:18
Compare that with Calvert-Lewin who gets more outside the box especially leaves Tosun outside looking in.
Sadly he looks like he can finish, but it feels like he's others a passenger.
The Brighton goal was his high-water mark
82 Posted 16/01/2019 at 18:01:21
Spot on really Shame it hasn't worked out. In the same window, Liverpool bought Van Dijk look how that turned out
To think we were allegedly considering Funes Mori or Van Dijk and we went for the former and the latter went to Southampton.
But back to our striker situation, if Tosun or Niasse leave this window, I'm sure we'd get a replacement in. I've already mooted Batshuyai on other threads but if not him then hopefully we have a canny deal up our sleeves.
Either way, we need someone on the pitch and scoring goals and exciting us!!
83 Posted 16/01/2019 at 18:37:47
So my hero as a kid, the original TC, he'd also be not good enough. Cottee would obviously thrive in a two striker system and it seems Tosun might too. Ironically I think Calvert-Lewin and Tosun would be a good partnership.
The problem is football has moved on. You can't carry a poacher like Cottee anymore. These kind of players need to adapt into something else, see Aguero's transformation at City under Guardiola (and how he regained his spot from Jesus who was clearly brought in to replace Aguero).
Tosun likes the pace to play as a wide forward, he can't drop in as a No 10 as he lacks playmaking ability and he lacks the game to be a target man, lacking height, strength, or hold-up play. He could do great elsewhere because, if you get the ball to his feet, he will find the back of the net. The problem is getting the ball to his feet.
84 Posted 05/02/2019 at 03:10:18
He just didnt fuck about!!!
His sheer drive and determination, hardly to mention his ability actually to smack or head the ball so hard yet accurately, made him one of the absolute best at what he did!!!
I'd actually take Shearer right NOW over Cenk Tosun, but Tosun with A.N Other would do me for now, just to see how that works out!!!
So.. come on manager!!.. Try something different from what the rest of us can see just aint working!!! (And while you're at it get your finger out and bollock some drive into these half-hearted fuckers!!!)...
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