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Celtic target McCarthy

| Wednesday, 16 January 2019 41comments  |  Jump to last
James McCarthy has emerged as a target of Celtic, although their preference for a loan move could scupper their chances of landing the midfielder.

Jim White reported on his talkSPORT show:

“My understanding is there's a recruitment meeting today to discuss two signings Brendan Rodgers would like to make. One is the Olympiacos full-back Omar Elabdellaoui. He plays international football for Norway.

"Also on the agenda is James McCarthy, a possible loan target from Everton.”

Everton are on record as saying that they will only allow further senior-level players to leave in permanent deals this month.

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Rennie Smith
1 Posted 11/01/2019 at 12:28:22
I see we're on the telly against Millwall, Saturday 5:30pm. I bet the local beak are well happy with a full day's ale pre-kick-off (literally)!
Brian Williams
2 Posted 16/01/2019 at 17:58:38
Fucking Jim White again. I listened to the show. The fucker makes it up... he really does.

He's trying to flog Brendan Rodgers to a Premier League team too. Being really disrespectful to Celtic as a club and their supporters.

Sky must be made up with him but the man's a wretch!

Steve Ferns
3 Posted 16/01/2019 at 18:28:26
If Celtic want him, I bet he'd like to go. If they play him, then a short loan to get fitness and confidence could be a good shout.

I'd like him to be in royal blue next season and, for me, the best way of achieving that is to loan him out to let him get back up to speed with the pressure off. Scotland fits better than the championship in that regard.

Steavey Buckley
4 Posted 16/01/2019 at 18:38:21
Cardiff can find £18 million for another striker, but no money to buy Niasse, especially, as Everton don't have money for a much needed striker. It does appear that clubs believe Everton are a soft touch for loan deals, 16 and counting. Middlesborough are still considering buying Besic; even though it is his second season there on loan.
Brian Williams
5 Posted 16/01/2019 at 18:43:06
Steavey, they don't want to buy Niasse because he's sh...... err not very good.

Boro won't buy Besic because his form has plummeted and he's viewed by some as a liability.

This is what we get for buying poorly. Hopefully a thing of the past.

Steavey Buckley
6 Posted 16/01/2019 at 18:50:50
Brian, if they are that bad why are they borrowing them? Besic, practically ever-present in a Middlesborough team that has been in the play-off positions for the past 2 seasons.
Steve Ferns
7 Posted 16/01/2019 at 18:51:58
Steavey, you miss the point. Everton have money. We are not skint.

The problem is the wage bill. It’s too high. We have to reduce it. Loans reduce it. Therefore, loaning players out does help. Sure we’d prefer to sell Niasse, but a loan still helps.

Derek Knox
8 Posted 16/01/2019 at 19:07:43
Good point Steavey, while it's good to get another off the books, albeit temporarily, it doesn't make sense to me. That should they stay up, (Cardiff) it is unlikely they would make Niasse a permanent, unless he turns out to be a revelation, hang on, there's a pig just flown over my roof!

What happens then? They send him back as he is approaching his next birthday and will be worth even less and back on the wage bill.

It's rare that a loan of older players works out well, although sometimes the 'horses for courses' does rarely tend to be proven.

I remember us getting Terry Curran, many moons ago, I think it was either Sheffield United or Wednesday, he played an absolute blinder whilst on loan, and appeared to be the missing part of our jig-saw. So, we then paid over the odds thinking, "Ah well he will improve us." Reality was, that he reverted back to being very ordinary indeed, and Everton rued another waste of money.

I know it's not Brands or Silva's fault we have these players on ridiculous wages and having overspent on them in the first place, but hopefully they should learn from history and try and not make the same mistakes, outgoing or incoming.

Jay Wood

9 Posted 16/01/2019 at 19:18:51
Another point Steavey Buckley is missing about Mo Besic is that on transfer deadline day in August Everton and Middlesborough agreed a £6m fee for the permanent transfer of the player (hugely popular at Boro in his first loan year), but it was Besic himself who refused to accept the terms Boro offered.

I'm sure that didn't endear Besic to the Everton hierarchy. He moved to Boro on loan this season, two weeks after the transfer deadline had passed.

Having had a second season to look at him, Boro fans are less impressed with him this time around. Possibly makes it harder to shift him, certainly to Boro. Not sure how long he has left on his contract, but the club is blameless that the permanent transfer didn't go through.

Steavey Buckley
10 Posted 16/01/2019 at 19:27:56
Steve the financial outlay over the past 2½ seasons is starting to affect present transfer policy.

This time last year, Everton spent £50 million on Walcott and Yosun, and both players are not working out in Everton's favour. So I can't see another £50 million going out the door unless there are other players sold first. But I don't see any buyers for Cenk at £20 million.

Brian Harrison
11 Posted 16/01/2019 at 19:33:28
No more loans. If you want our players, then you pay the going rate. I didn't see Liverpool allow Solanke to go on loan. Hardly any Premier League experience yet Bournemouth pay £19 million plus add-ons. That's how you do business, Everton, not let players like Bolasie, Mirallas, Besic go on loan so these clubs can see these guys don't warrant them buying these players.

So, come the summer, they will all be back at Finch Farm, getting their huge salaries, and we end up having a massive wage bill that could constrain Silva and Brands as to what they financially are allowed to bring in.

The only players who should be loaned out are young players learning their trade – not seasoned Internationals.

Martin Berry
12 Posted 16/01/2019 at 19:34:26
A midfielder and a striker coming in?
Steve Ferns
13 Posted 16/01/2019 at 21:25:01
Steavey, look at what Brands says. It's all about wages. Nothing about raising funds. We have too many players. The wage bill is too high. We do have cash to spend. We need to be more profitable.
Christy Ring
14 Posted 16/01/2019 at 21:30:04
I'm a big McCarthy fan. I don't understand why he's not getting match fitness with the U23s?

Listening to our 'friend', a big Rangers fan, talking more crap, my problem is, if Gueye is injured or suspended, Macca is the only natural replacement.

Can we not sell Schneiderlin? Roma are supposed to be sniffing around... maybe a swap for Dzeko?

Steve Ferns
15 Posted 16/01/2019 at 21:34:16
Christy, you'd think so, but look at the U23s. No team plays players like McCarthy or even Schneiderlin. It's not the done thing. So it ain't just us. I don't know why. You're allowed over-age players, eg, Browning, but for some reason not reserves.

I'm very much in favour of the U23s joining the Football League pyramid. Although I do recognise the argument that it'd be the end of the small clubs like Marine.

Pat Kelly
16 Posted 16/01/2019 at 21:36:46
No one in their right mind would buy McCarthy just coming back from yet another injury. He'll be lucky to last the remainder of the season without another injury.

And who would buy Niasse?

Brian Williams
17 Posted 16/01/2019 at 21:41:34
You can only sell players other clubs are willing to buy.
Jim Hardin
18 Posted 16/01/2019 at 22:38:01
Brian Harrison,

How exactly does refusing to loan players out and therefore paying the full wage bill for each for the next several months help Everton out? Haven't at least a few of the previously loaned players been bought by the loanee club, or a competitor in the same league whom he may have played against? Isn't Vlasic likely to be sold?

I think we should have kept Big Sam and loaned him out to relegation-threatened teams so they could pay his wage bill.

Mark Andersson
19 Posted 17/01/2019 at 00:49:11
Nice one, Jim Harding.

McCarthy needs off loading if he wants to carry on playing regularly.

Everton have mismanaged on and off the field for too long. These pit falls have now secured us well and truly as a small club. Thanks, Bill.

Phil Smith
20 Posted 17/01/2019 at 02:12:57
I think we're forgetting about young Beni Baningime. He is like Morgan and Gana rolled into one. I think he is back to full fitness. He should be pushing for a first team place if they go.
John Hammond
21 Posted 17/01/2019 at 10:47:25
Let's hope we can somehow convince Celtic to buy McCarthy rather than loan.
Tony Everan
22 Posted 17/01/2019 at 12:28:50
Why doesn't anyone get the cash out when it comes to us-?

It's always a loan move... It would be better to sell him to a lower Premier League or challenging Championship club.

Gaute Lie
23 Posted 17/01/2019 at 18:15:15
We should sell players having no future with the Club, not loan them out.

But I guess this means someone is on his way in.

Let's hope its a striker with abilities.

Paul Birmingham
24 Posted 17/01/2019 at 21:39:23
Let's hope that MCCarthy gets his fitness back and back in Scotland, I think fuel his desire and passion and then if he is successful, then I think he's likely to provide Brands and Silva with a challenge as to keep him or sell him.

For me he's the best we have in his role but, aside from his first season, he's been jinxed by bad injuries.

Looks like EFC will take serious losses on any transfers, aside if Gana went, but if he goes then we'd have Beni, and if fit McCarthy.

Tough times and some firewood sales this month and this summer.

Hopefully now the club will have a quality business plan for buying players and developing our own youth players.

Hopefully soon we'll have more players coming through and with a new found belief and football philosophy (pigs fly!); better times are ahead.

It's that or bust this season so the FA Cup is massive for us. Success will help the clubs stature and transfer potential.

Let's hope so.

Justin Doone
25 Posted 17/01/2019 at 21:41:29
I'm all for loaning out youngsters but seasoned professionals need to be moved on if they don't fit longer term.

Like Niasse and Tosun, I think we need to take 50% loss and declare we will only consider selling (£7/8m each) or loaning out for a fee which could be deducted from any permanent transfer fee,
say £3m.

McCarthy like Niasse had a great engine and would always put in a shift. But I don't think either of them are particularly that good.

Plus I can't see him being as good a player prior to his injuries and certainly it's unlikely he'll have improved.

If we can't find the right players for us then Silva needs to prove he's a top coach and get the best out of what he has. We can then play the transfer game properly in the summer.

Denis Richardson
26 Posted 18/01/2019 at 14:34:58
I don't think you can complain about a loan. We have loads of players we'd love to sell but no one wants to buy as they're not very good, injury prone or both and, more importantly, they are on massive wages. As mentioned above, can't sell if no one wants to buy (players generally won't agree to go if it means taking a massive pay cut).

We have 18 players out on loan at the minute and quite a few of them are ones we want to get rid of but no one wants to buy them. Given they won't play for us we may as well get another club to cover some their wages.

Remember we're still paying some of the wages of; Sandro, Mirallas, Williams, Besic, Bolasie, Vlasic, Tarashaj and even Niasse when he goes – highly doubtful Cardiff will be paying his full £55k/week wages. That's 8 players already who we simply can't get off the books. At least Williams' contract expires end of this season so he won't be back but we may well find most or all the others back at Finch Farm in the summer. We simply pay them far too much for others to take them (or for them to want to leave). Sandro is on £100k/week!

Sad thing is most of the ones listed above still have loads of time on their contracts: Sandro, Bolasie and Besic – their contracts don't run out until 2021!

McCarthy won't be of any serious value to us, he's massively injury-prone, has hardly played in 3 years, and his contract runs out next summer. Loan him out to get his wages partly off the books and allow him to regain some fitness and match practice so we can get shut in the summer.

Poor signings on massive wages take an age to get rid of; quite often, you can't... and the player just runs down his contract.

Brian Wilkinson
27 Posted 18/01/2019 at 17:43:47
I would keep hold of McCarthy, it only takes a couple of injuries and were short of the type of player like McCarthy.

If we sell Schnids and Gomes burns out or is suffering from an injury, then is the perfect replacement.

People will say McCarthy is injury prone, however this time we have not rushed the player straight back into the team.

Play the guy in some part in the cup game next week and take it from there, Millwall will be ready for a rough and tumble game, McCarthy is the perfect player to put into this match.

I would certainly keep hold and fingers crossed, the injury does not come back.

Eric Myles
28 Posted 20/01/2019 at 04:12:23
Brian #27, I don't think it was us that rushed McCarthy back before he was fit, I seem to remember it was when he was put on the pitch for International games.
Andrew Laird
29 Posted 20/01/2019 at 14:48:30
I am not the Duracell Crab's biggest fan but at least he would keep possession, he is the only back up to Gueye we have, and Gueye passes the ball like someone who has been rubbing chilli powder in his eyes.

Gomes is also struggling now by being targeted by the opposition to be rushed and at the moment is also coughing up possession far too cheaply which is one of the teams major issues.

The only plausible reasons for him not getting game time in this underperforming shambles is that he is no longer at the level he was which would put off suitors (which was good but never great) or that Gueye is so fit he never needs a rest (extremely unlikely).

Joe McMahon
30 Posted 20/01/2019 at 16:51:06
Our team is utter dried, but McCarthy — before all the injuries – was passing sideways and making reckless challenges. There must be a reason not even Huddersfield or Burnley ain't interested.
Michael Kenrick
31 Posted 20/01/2019 at 16:58:24
"Our team is utter dried" — well, that's a new one, Joe.

Seems incomplete to me... "utter dried codswallop"? I'm curious.

Joe McMahon
32 Posted 20/01/2019 at 18:11:57
Sorry Michael, it's my phone. Should have been 'dross'. Thanks for pointing out, but yeah 'dried' doesn't sound right.
Matthew Williams
33 Posted 21/01/2019 at 18:47:44
Some still want this bloke to play for us again???

Bobby Brown Shoes thought he was a phenomenal player.

Nuff said... sigh.

Brian Wilkinson
34 Posted 23/01/2019 at 00:05:09
You can guarantee Gueye will not play in the FA Cup game at Millwall, so it will be either McCarthy or Davies that starts.

I still think the reason we have not started McCarthy is to get him fully fit for when Gueye departs for France... just my gut feeling.

Don Alexander
35 Posted 23/01/2019 at 00:53:46
Let's be realistic re McCarthy. He was the beating heart of a Wigan midfield that got relegated. He had one reasonably good season with us before injuries robbed him of the chance to improve, for years. M&M presumably see him at the talent quicksand that is Finch Farm.

Their call, so let's see.

Brian Wilkinson
36 Posted 23/01/2019 at 01:57:46
Same could be said about Gueye with a relegated Villa, Don.
Tony Abrahams
37 Posted 23/01/2019 at 07:44:32
Paul @24 probably gets it right when he says tough times with some firewood sales now and in the summer.

I hope you're right, Paul, but it seems to me that, because of the wages some of these players are on, it might be very difficult to even give them away.

I think it must be a case of “trying” to balance the books and move forward, something we might find harder than anything, unless the club take some seriously big hits over the next few months.

Kevin Prytherch
38 Posted 23/01/2019 at 08:33:40
Strange how no-one rates him on here but the last 2 managers have brought him back from injury as quick as possible – and we've looked better on both occasions because of it.

McCarthy will add tenacity to our team, which is something we sadly lack at the moment. We need to control the midfield and, at the moment with Gomes and Sigurdsson there, we aren't controlling anything.

Dave Abrahams
39 Posted 23/01/2019 at 09:19:26
Brian (34), I hope you are right, a fit, and I stress a fit,

McCarthy will definitely improve a very weak Everton midfield, which is the main cause of Everton's failing in the last few weeks.

Sam Hoare
40 Posted 23/01/2019 at 09:38:03
Players out injured or out on loan always get the "blue-tinted glasses" treatment. McCarthy is a decent enough player but even when he was fit and playing every week he was part of a somewhat ineffective central midfield that took Martinez's Everton to 11th and 12 place finishes. There's a reason that most of us were delighted with the signing of Schneiderlin.

I usually agree with everything Dave Abrahams (@39) says but would he 'definitely' improve our midfield. I don't know. He's not a better player than either of Gueye or Gomes. Perhaps an experienced player coming back from a long time out would give the team an initial lift but, unless he has somehow improved in his time out, I don't think he's a long term solution to the issues in midfield.

If Gueye signs for PSG then McCarthy should stay and will have a good shot at beating Davies or Schneiderlin for that position. If Gueye stays, then I'd be happy to accept a decent offer from Celtic. I'd rather sell Schneiderlin though!

Matthew Williams
41 Posted 27/01/2019 at 15:45:39
No pot now for 25 years and this sicknote's still about drawing a wage.

Sums up our once great club - just give him to Celtic for nowt!

Bobby's greatest trick.

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