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Russian World Cup star is latest name to be linked

| Wednesday, 23 January 2019 44comments  |  Jump to last
Everton are interested in Zenit St Petersburg striker Artem Dzyuba, with an Everton player potentially going the other way.

According to RT, the 30-year-old would be keen on making the switch to Goodison Park while an unnamed Blues player would be part of any deal.

Dzyuba scored three goals for Russia in last summer's World Cup and laid on another two for the host nation.

Since joining Zenit four years ago, he has scored 34 times in 87 league games and notched another six in 10 matches on loan for Arsenal Tula last year.

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Justin Doone
1 Posted 23/01/2019 at 07:45:45
Happy for a permanent transfer out of one of our many squad fillers, but the potential incoming player is a simple and large "No Thank You".

I'm not expecting us to find a diamond in the Russian league and, at 30 years of age, he's probably too late to be polished.

Simon Smith
2 Posted 23/01/2019 at 09:58:12
Fuck me, with signings like this along with recent comments coming out of the club, we reaĺly are back where we began before the Moshiri era.
Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
3 Posted 23/01/2019 at 10:42:25
Last time we got a regular goal scorer from the Russian League was...?

Would this be two deer?

John Hammond
4 Posted 23/01/2019 at 10:46:58
A 30-year-old playing in the Russian League will absolutely be on our radar. I'm sure we've had the whole scouting network watching him play. [*sarcasm*]
Tony Everan
5 Posted 23/01/2019 at 10:48:46
Oumar was the king of the Russian league, Player of the Year. This lad's agent is doing well getting his name out there, but he is not coming to Everton.
Dave McDowell
6 Posted 23/01/2019 at 10:54:08
Why not, what could go wrong???

He's from the Russian league, we've had plenty of successful pickings there in the past.

He's 30.

Nowadays plays mainly as a sub (read impact player).

6'-5", so mobile.

Never played outside of Russia.

Joking aside, it seems like a desperate roll of the dice — like every Everton January signing.

Brian Harrison
7 Posted 23/01/2019 at 11:05:22
Well done to his agent for getting his client's name mentioned, and as others have said we have already had our fingers burnt very badly in buying from Russia.

I think if we sign anybody then we will have to sell first; maybe if Gueye goes to PSG that might free up some money for a centre forward. But I am always wary of buying in January as ultimately it usually turns out to be a short term answer that goes pear shaped the following season ie Tosun and Walcott.

With the new stadium on the horizon if we look at what has happened to Arsenal and Spurs, in the season the stadium was being built, there was very little spent on players in that period. I think we will be in for something similar.

The problem we have that could be our undoing is the amount of players on our books that nobody wants. The wage bill is already way too high for a team outside the top 6, never mind the top 4. This wage bill will increase massively when all the loanees return this summer.

Sam Hoare
8 Posted 23/01/2019 at 11:41:15
Absolutely not the type of player Brands likes. I'd guess there's almost zero truth in this.
Steve Hogan
9 Posted 23/01/2019 at 11:51:39
Jesus, the negativity on here is mindblowing at times. We won't be signing this player any time soon, does nobody actually notice what the club is trying to do?

Brands has said a number of times he's trying to reduce the average age of the squad, not sign 30-year-old Russian 'has-beens' and never was.

Why do people believe this crap, and then come out with the same old comments... typical Everton blah blah blah.

We are trying to implement real change at the club, on and off the field. So far, Moshiri has pumped £250m of his own cash into the club, he was let down badly by the tenure of Koeman and Walsh and as a result, we are paying the price.

Simply throwing yet more money at the project is not the answer, not with around 13 players currently out on loan, and due back at the end of the season. We have to reduce the size of the squad, it's simply madness to continue adding to it.

Yes, we certainly need a striker, and probably three more quality player's to mount a real sustainable challenge to the top six, but it will take time and January is not the right time to do it.

We would be in deep shit without Moshiri, yes he's made mistakes, but we would be facing a very bleak future in an increasingly decrepit Goodison Park without his ownership.

Matthew Williams
10 Posted 23/01/2019 at 12:41:28
So I take it we no longer look at British or Irish players anymore and that the lower leagues throughout the UK and Ireland are now no longer worth bothering about?

Our Scouts to me are now fucking worthless, these pricks will just continue to piss away Moshiri's money buying foreign players that will not bust a bollock for our club.

Hint... Scotland... Ayr Utd want £20 fucking grand for Shankland!!! Send a few to Leeds to see if they bite for the lad Roofe. Both score goals and will not break the bank, just take a fucking chance on home grown lads who would, I believe, give their all for a chance to play for us at Premier League level.

Two strikers up front... what a novel idea!

Kieran Kinsella
11 Posted 23/01/2019 at 15:20:17
Brands needs to pull his finger out and get this one over the line. WTF do we always leak this stuff to the press so we alert other teams to our targets. Airdrie and Rochdale will tap him up before we know it.

Oh sorry, I lost myself there for a minute and thought we were back in the summer of Walsh where we all implored the club to push through every deal for every ingrate that was linked with the club.

I strongly suspect, if there is ANY substance to this, that it is some agent trying to tie up a deal for Vlasic, and naively thinking Everton will take this Mick Quinn lookalike as partial payment. I am 100% sure no one at Everton is going to fall for that.

Pat Kelly
12 Posted 23/01/2019 at 15:39:30
Haven't we got a recently signed World Cup "star" struggling to get a game? This one is just tabloid trash talk. With Gueye now unlikely to move, according to Sly Sports, it appears we've no money to buy even an aging Russian World Cup "star". Just as well in this case.
Jim Bennings
13 Posted 23/01/2019 at 15:56:18
It seems we really are skint at last.

Get geared up in the summer window for the old “We need to move players on before any incomings arrive”.

Silva may need to start reading from the old David Moyes manual of how to turn a tenner into a ton... and water into wine.

Grant Rorrison
14 Posted 23/01/2019 at 16:21:12
Did anyone seriously think Moshiri was going to keep bankrolling failure after failure? We need a plan if we want to genuinely improve.

You can't keep going out and buying more and more players and letting the previous batch leave for a loss and expect to get anywhere. The players we've been signing aren't even that good a quality. We've just paid way over the odds because we've got some money to spend.

We need stability, continuity, etc. Someone needs to be given the time to mould what we've got into a successful team.

Tony Everan
15 Posted 23/01/2019 at 17:02:23
If we are skint, well so be it, It may concentrate minds and bring back the team mentality.

It's always "we need this and we need that" and never keeping, motivating and organising what we've got. It always a "whinge, whinge, oh mummy we should be in top 6 and we need more players".

The time has come where this squad and manager has to knuckle down to business and work together. We need to become a fighting unit again – organised like the Spartans against the big boys, and organised motivated and ruthless against weaker teams.

Addendum [A ] to that rant.

Can we have a 20+ goal striker, Mr Brands? I promise not to ask for anything else.

John Kavanagh
16 Posted 23/01/2019 at 17:02:57
Grant #13,

The problem is we cannot get shut of our signings even for a loss, but you are correct in that the £200 million war chest has already been blown on way overpriced players on big contracts. Some on TW seem to think we can spend the same £200 million over and over again.

I'm not overly worried by this rumour though as it's from the same source (RT) that makes out that Britain was responsible for the chemical weapons attack on Salisbury and presented the two innocent Russian 'tourists' framed after sampling the delights of Salisbury cathedral.

Then again, I also split my sides laughing when I read that Everton were signing a player who couldn't even get into Southampton reserves, one Cuco Martina...

Frank Sheppard
17 Posted 23/01/2019 at 17:14:28
I agree with Steve at 9, his first point about the “negativity” on here is bang on. It has been so for far too long.
Jay Harris
18 Posted 23/01/2019 at 17:14:59
More media spin. Don't waste your time even thinking about it.

Never going to happen.

Derek Taylor
19 Posted 23/01/2019 at 17:21:48
Steve @9, what's to be optimistic about? Moshiri's silly money? Trouble is, he doesn't know how to spend it and so far his advisers have been similarly ignorant!
Paul Richards
20 Posted 23/01/2019 at 17:52:04
Yea, let's blame the "negativity" of the fans... Those foolish people who seem have no idea what's going on here. But are understandably skeptical of speculative garbage about Russians by Russians...

Yea, let's call it "negativity" from our seat high up on that fine white horse of eternal optimism. How's that been working for you, Steve, Frank???

Ray Roche
21 Posted 23/01/2019 at 18:22:27
Paul, ToffeeWeb HAS become more and more negative recently. Okay, there's been a real downturn in expectations lately but ToffeeWeb should have the Samaritans phone number at the bottom of every article.

Personally, I don't think Moshiri will release the King's Ransom required for an average striker let alone one who elevate us to the top 4 to Silva to spend. Brands, maybe but not Silva.

Bill Watson
22 Posted 23/01/2019 at 18:31:07
Jim; #12

We're not so much skint as overstocked and paying a premium to store that stock.

As soon as we can clear the shelves, we'll be able to bring in new stock. Simple as that.

Jeff Armstrong
23 Posted 23/01/2019 at 18:35:01
Nice Lidl analogy there Bill...
Steve Hogan
24 Posted 23/01/2019 at 18:39:41
Paul, I'm glad you accept the origins of the article are 'speculative garbage' with regard to signing dodgy Russian centre-forwards, but sadly many of our fans fall for it every time and use the 'said' article to beat the club about the head every time.

I'm happy to accept the club has made some terrible errors in the transfer market over the last few years, but there is a genuine attempt by Brands/Moshiri to put this right in the future. That involves bringing to an end the 'scattergun' approach favoured by Walsh and Koeman in the past.

Despite the frustration felt by all of us with an 'underperforming' team at the moment, I'm still optimistic over our long-term future. Pre Moshiri, I don't think we had one.

Jim Bennings
25 Posted 23/01/2019 at 19:05:16
We should hire Moyes as chief scout and see if he can spot any gems.

One thing Moyes did well also was shop in the Championship for some really good buys.

Lescott and Stones were immense signings and sold on for monumental fees whilst Tim Cahill was pure gold.

Joe McMahon
26 Posted 23/01/2019 at 19:32:31
Jim B@24, don't forget Moyes also had some shockers, Darren Gibson comes to mind, cost us ££££s in wages for a drink driving crock. Again Sir Alex got the better of us.

You are right though – Lescott & Cahill were stormers. He is yesterday's man now though, even West Ham Utd waved goodbye.

Kim Vivian
27 Posted 23/01/2019 at 19:32:54
Jim – You're right, and let's not forget Baines, Coleman, Jagielka, Arteta and more. None of our recent signings – except maybe Digne... but it's too soon to know – come close.
Sam Hoare
28 Posted 23/01/2019 at 20:03:20
I've sometimes wondered how we would have fared if Moyes was still here when Moshiri's millions arrived.

He certainly had a good eye and made more good than bad signings I'd say but often the less money he had the better he'd do!

His most expensive signings for us were apparently Fellaini, Yakubu, Andy Johnson, Bilyatedinov, Beattie, Van der Meyde, Mirallas, Baines, Krøldrup, Heitinga and Jelavic.

From that list, I'd say only Fellaini and Baines were money well spent. Yakubu and Mirallas had their moments and I think we sold Johnson for a small profit; most of Moyes's best work was done with smaller fees. He also spent £20M on Dider Ndong while at Sunderland!

Hard to imagine though he'd have done any worse than Koeman and Walsh.

Kieran Kinsella
29 Posted 23/01/2019 at 21:05:01
Moyes was equally good/bad at signing expensive and signing cheap. Think about it. He found Coleman for virtually nothing but he also got Magaye Gueye, Bjarni Vidarsson, Guillaume Plessis, Francisco Junior, Scott Spencer, Ian Turner etc. So his ratio was maybe 1 in 10.

Expensive players he has Baines, Yobo, Jagielka but also Bilyaletdinov etc. We remember the expensive flops cause they were pricey but no-one keeps track of the cheap ones.

Sam Hoare
30 Posted 23/01/2019 at 21:31:26
Kieran, nearly all of those players you lost were youth players though. Think they all must have been 19 or younger when he signed them all bought for less than a million I'd say.

For me, Moyes's signings like Pienaar, Arteta, Gravesen, Yobo, Jagielka, Lescott, Distin, Cahill, Carsley and Martyn were all great signings for the money. He was an ace in the £1m-£7m bracket!

Bob Parrington
31 Posted 23/01/2019 at 21:38:17
Makes me wonder who (of the many crazy media) thought this one up! Not worth too much effort to even consider it as serious.
Kieran Kinsella
32 Posted 23/01/2019 at 21:43:50
Sam Hoare,

Carsley was actually a Walter Smith signing, right before he was sacked. It's funny though, we have had a few who were brought in by one manager only to make their name thereafter. Like Kendall signed Graham Stuart right before he left, Mike Walker signed Limpar; I always associate both with Joe Royle.

Kieran Kinsella
33 Posted 23/01/2019 at 21:47:09
Come to think of it, Kendall signed Rideout, Matt Jackson, Gary Ablett, Barry Horne, Dave Watson. Walker initially brought in Ferguson, as well as Limpar and Amokachi. Harvey got Hinchcliffe... so none of "Royle's team" were Royle signings bar Barrett who was cup-tied.
Paul Richards
34 Posted 23/01/2019 at 21:47:17
Steve, I just find it annoying when people jump up in arms about supposed "negativity" on here without actually citing specific examples so we know what it is you are calling "negativity".

For me, "negativity" is people posting on the pre-match threads, happily predicting that Everton are going to lose their next match. I would like to see Lyndon ban such unwanted predictions, but then I have to take a step back and understand that some are making these projections from a position of reasonable analysis, based on our current form, ranging to a point of despair with our ability to beat the opposition put in front of us (saddly proven) — or as some form of protection to themselves, inoculating them in advance so that the bad news of yet another defeat is lessened when you can point and say "I told you so".

Expressing doubts about rumours or doubts about the club's success in signing good players are both areas where opinions are rife and empirical evidence mixed at best. Yes, we should always want to see the club and its actions in a positive light, reflecting our vaulted position as supporters.

But being supporters, and thanks to this website for its brilliant insights from many contributors, we know so much more these days about what goes on, and are less-inclined to view proceedings through blue-tinted spectacles.

And this association Ray makes with depression and suicidal tendencies is bordering on the farcical, if it wasn't such a serious issue for those so troubled. Perhaps you could lay off that particular very unhelpful tendency in future, eh Ray? I see no indication, no matter how distraught the fans get on here with the club's lack of progess, that they have any need for such services, so you are really doing everyone a disservice with that nonsense.

Sam Hoare
35 Posted 23/01/2019 at 22:25:40
Kieran @32, good spot. He was signed about a month or two before Moyes arrived right? Great player for us, how we could use a peak Lee Carsley now.
Bob Parrington
36 Posted 24/01/2019 at 03:55:00
Paul #34, Isn't that a bit of a harsh reaction to Ray's comment, which was likely a 'throw away line' trying to bring some light-hearted humour back in to the thread.

Okay, after watching the Southampton game on Optus Sport, I wanted to smash my Mac to smithereens and throw my mobile at the wall but, after 55 years of being a true Everton supporter, I held back because I should not abuse such inanimate objects as they are only the messengers. Don't shoot the messenger!

I'm sure many Everton fans and particularly TWebrs felt the same as I did!

Paul Richards
37 Posted 24/01/2019 at 05:28:36
Yea, Bob maybe I overreacted to Ray's assertion that "ToffeeWeb should have the Samaritans phone number at the bottom of every article".

But, since he linked that with a claimed increase in negativity recently, I think he was saying that criticisms of the club, players, management, whatever, amongst posters spanning the current downturn are indicative of clinical depression that could lead to attempted suicide. That is what he's saying.

Nothing light-hearted about that, is there? But okay, I'm the one being harsh.

Bob Parrington
38 Posted 24/01/2019 at 06:58:19
Mmmm! Is there previous history on this? I don't read in to what Ray wrote in any way the same as you appear to read in to it. No offence meant, though! Good thing about TW is that we each have differing views.

Paul Tran
39 Posted 24/01/2019 at 07:42:36
One of thing we really need to think again about is this idea that previous players and managers who were not good enough will now be the answer.
They weren't then, they won't be now.
Paul Cherrington
40 Posted 24/01/2019 at 09:39:10
Russian players in general have always struggled to settle and make an impact in England so this would be a mistake, I feel. His sheer physicality would also be a disadvantage as opposition players would just con the ref into giving fouls against him all the time. When you then add in his age, then it is a real no-no for me.
Ray Roche
41 Posted 24/01/2019 at 13:15:04
Yes Paul you did overreact to a "throw away" line, included to bring a little levity to the thread. And if you want to see examples of negativity, just join in any match day thread. And don't assume that you are in any way qualified to lecture me on depression, clinical or otherwise. Without knowing me or anything about me you're in no position to, okay?

I stand by my original comment, ToffeeWeb has become more negative recently, with some posters unable to see anything positive about the club. I could, but obviously won't, name ToffeeWebbers who no longer consider adding posts and who don't even bother to read many articles on here nowadays because of all the miserable people who can't even see the damn cloud, never mind the silver (Silva) lining.

Constructive criticism is welcome, but the removal of the word "shite" from some people's vocabulary would render them speechless on matchday threads.

Paul Richards
42 Posted 24/01/2019 at 15:47:26
Sorry, Ray, if I kind of poked the sore bear there – no offence intended. But you made the link yourself, and your strong reaction maybe proves my point: it's insulting to those who could be so troubled. Safer to just not go there, would you not think?

Thank you for providing an example of the negativity. It's noble to want people to have a positive view of the club. But you post it on a thread where people rightly question a highly dubious rumour about some Russian giant we are supposedly about to buy? That just struck me as odd, sorry.

And of course there are lots of folk who come and go on these pages, post or don't post. Saying they don't post any longer because others don't share their rosy view of the club is particularly lame, don't you think? A forum like this is bound to reflect the specturm of views that are out there, as it does, both good and bad.

But it's posters on the matchday thread reacting to the latest shite they've watched by daring to describe it as 'shite'? I'd actually agree with you on that point: maybe Michael and Lyndon could take action there... The more deliberative posts tend to come later and some do provide more eloquent descriptions of the shite we are playing, while others seek to defend or justify it for one reason or many. T'was ever thus!

Ray Roche
43 Posted 24/01/2019 at 16:47:29
No worries Paul, we all get out of the wrong side of the bed some mornings, or out of the side of the wrong bed, whatever

It's just that the constant whingeing of some posts is wearying as well as the fact that some people apparently believe that the Daily Star is a newspaper and that the Newsnow Everton web page contains factual articles.
Re the Match Day can be quite humorous at times but you state, correctly, that the more thoughtful and intelligent posts, often devoid of "shite" are the posts where you can get a real idea of we were!

Jack Convery
44 Posted 24/01/2019 at 20:41:23
Niet to Comrade Dyzuba — the Russian Brett Angel.

Ah those were the days...!!! Niet!!!!!

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