Skip to Main Content
Members:   Log In  |  Sign Up

Gomes close to securing move away from Barcelona

| Thursday, 21 March 2019 89comments  |  Jump to last
Reports in Spain suggest that André Gomes has made a decision about his future and that Everton are the favourites to sign him this summer.

Having failed to retain a regular place in Barcelona's first team, the Portuguese international has spent the season on loan at Goodison Park where he has largely been a success in the Blues' midfield.

Everton have been in contact with Nou Camp officials over the course of the campaign to investigate the possibility of signing Gomes permanently and what it would cost to do so.

The talk in Spain is that remaining at Goodison is his most likely option but Tottenham remain in the mix and Sport claim that Inter Milan are also seriously interested in securing his services.



Reader Comments (89)

Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer


Jon Withey
1 Posted 21/03/2019 at 14:04:41
Fingers crossed he'll stay. If not, I've enjoyed watching him when he's on form – best in the team at retaining the ball under pressure.
Steve Ferns
2 Posted 21/03/2019 at 14:07:53
I hope he’ll stay as well. He’s found a place to work where he is appreciated, supported and adored by the fans. After having none of that in Barcelona, I think he’s unlikely to turn his back on it. He also knows playing for us is enough to re-establish himself in the first team for Portugal. He’s young enough to help us push on, or leave for bigger things after properly rebuilding his career.
Sam Hoare
3 Posted 21/03/2019 at 14:11:38
I'm not totally convinced. Looks great on a good day and clearly has some quality on the ball but I'm not sure he's got the fight to control a midfield consistently. I'm not sure he's put two good performances in back to back since 2018. And I still think we need a faster central player if we are to play Siggurdsson.

No doubt he has talent but I'm not sure if he's as good as he should be if that makes sense. Perhaps if we got him permanently he could really flourish next season. But equally I could see him becoming a £30m passenger.

Getting that midfield blend right for next season is absolutely key, especially if Gueye leaves, and I think there may be players better suited to the Premier League out there for £25-30M.

Jay Harris
4 Posted 21/03/2019 at 14:21:13
The man has got the tools as he demonstrated when he first came but he needs a good preseason to beef up and contribute a few more goals.

£20M (€25M) is peanuts for a player of his quality.

Jon Withey
5 Posted 21/03/2019 at 14:23:17
I'd have him over Schneiderlin – and he was a £25M player – not that it's saying much but it does give some idea of the market.

Sure, we could get lucky and get somebody better – but if he wants in I'd be happy.

Dan Nulty
6 Posted 21/03/2019 at 14:38:17
No-brainer for me; a season of adjustment this year... expect him to kick on, plus he already knows the players rather than someone new coming in.

Consistency is king though, as has been said.

Tony Everan
7 Posted 21/03/2019 at 15:49:28
If he played to his best level consistently he would be a good buy. He has played well, then had a poor spell, last few weeks he has been much better.

I think Gomes's head will be turned by Inter or a Champions League club and will want to leave anyway, so it may be a decision that we will not have to make.

Tony Hill
8 Posted 21/03/2019 at 16:11:20
The way he strutted around Anfield making them look like mugs was a thing of beauty. Better fitness needed but that will be there next year as will better adjustment generally to the Premier League. A proper Everton player of the old school.
Joey Crawley
9 Posted 21/03/2019 at 17:52:05
Ohh Andre, you have been the only shining light in this abysmal season. Can you please teach Richarlison some English and the rest of the team how to put a shift in, grow a beard, win a game and woo the wildlife?

If we had 10 more players with your graft and good looks, we'd be winning the Champions League and repopulating the globe with the greatest team Everton have ever seen, please stay, I love you, Ssshhhhh, xx

Derek Knox
10 Posted 21/03/2019 at 18:24:24
Tony @ 7, yes if he plays consistently it's almost a no-brainer, but as we both know, and have seen, he has had a few forgettable performances where he has looked like a different player altogether.

Not so sure that he would be tempted away by an offer from one of the Clubs you mention, as Steve Ferns so rightly pointed out, he has experienced being at Everton where he is appreciated, supported and adored.

He strikes me as being a fairly level-headed sort of guy, and Barcelona was probably thought of as a dream move, which he discovered through experience turned into a nightmare!

Jon Withey
11 Posted 21/03/2019 at 18:42:01
I also like the fact he is a bit of a snide – more like that, please.
Justin Doone
12 Posted 21/03/2019 at 18:54:34
Yes, please. A very classy player who could be our kingpin for a good five years or more and still be in his prime.

However, from his or his agents perspective, maybe he's too good for Everton.

Currently being at Everton means nothing when a Champions League team calls... so sadly, if we don't get him ASAP, it probably means he will be talking to other options out there.

Martin Mason
13 Posted 21/03/2019 at 19:07:44
I sincerely hope that Everton and Barcelona can agree a price for him that reflects not only his obvious talents but also his weaknesses, I'd say at <£30M, he would be a great buy. He is massively talented but at times the opposition can drive through him. Hopefully, we can still coach out any weaknesses. He's a very good player.
Dave Ganley
14 Posted 21/03/2019 at 20:27:56
Tony Hill #8,

I was going to say something similar, he was immense across the park. His fitness has been a bit of an issue but a decent pre-season should sort that out. Quality player and one who I hope stays. Will get better and better.

Paul Birmingham
15 Posted 21/03/2019 at 20:55:26
I really hope he stays, and it would be great if he does as he's warmed to Goodison Park and embraced the club.

But as all matters Everton, you never do know, there's never a nap, in terms of results and transfers but, with Brands on board, I've more faith in him staying.

At our old ground this season, he was top class, perhaps his finest hour this season.

It would be great to start preseason with a spine in this team.

Over to the lad himself and hopefully good fortune for Everton and he signs for us. He's a player, a bit of devil and has a good dig as well.

Tony Abrahams
16 Posted 21/03/2019 at 20:58:05
I think Sam has a point but I think it's a squad game and maybe, with a few better players and more room to manoeuvre a bit of rotation, then Gomes could become a top player who we will all really enjoy watching.
Kunal Desai
17 Posted 21/03/2019 at 21:55:25
I'd agree with Sam here. I'm not convinced he is the type of player we need to dominate the midfield. I'd have Gomes as a squad player but not in the midfield starting birth.

Assuming Gana leaves, we would need to bring in two midfielders: one I think needs to a powerhouse, eg, a Sissoko or Doucoure type, and another to go alongside would be in the mould of Eriksen. Easier said than done but that's the pairing I'd have.

Gomes is fine for the last 20-25 mins but very little in the way of dominance in that midfield and more of the silkiness doesn't quite work in the Premier League.

Barry McNally
18 Posted 21/03/2019 at 23:28:51
A Rolls-Royce in a car park of clapped out bangers.
Fran Mitchell
19 Posted 21/03/2019 at 23:42:39
Gomes is the type who looks amazing when the team is playing well as a whole. He has the physical attributes – 6'-1", strong, he is skillful on the ball, can use both feet – he is actually pretty similar to Pogba and could perform a similar role for us.

For the reported price, I can't see us getting anyone as good as him. As Gueye will likely leave, we can't be hoping to build a complete new midfield from scratch, so signing Gomes makes sense, and get a partner for him.

Fran Mitchell
20 Posted 21/03/2019 at 23:45:51
And we need to stop with this, "let's sign an Erikson-type player'... Jesus, Erikson is one of the best and in-demand attacking creative midfielders in world football!

It's akin to saying 'we need a Maradona-type forward, and a Maldini type left-back, and a Cafu-type right back, then a Vieira-type defensive midfielder, and a Cantona-type striker and were sorted'...

Not easy, but we should be aiming for that.

Stan Schofield
21 Posted 21/03/2019 at 00:01:38
Well, a lot of posters on ToffeeWeb ask how many of our players would get into the top-6 sides. The answer is at least one, and that is Gomes.
Kase Chow
22 Posted 22/03/2019 at 00:51:11
I just loved the way he took the fight to that lot at Anfield this season. Especially when we were under pressure. He turned that game for us... until Pickford turned it back.

Gomes can be an absolute diamond. Well worth the risk – as long as there are still funds for two strikers!

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

23 Posted 22/03/2019 at 01:13:37
I'm not convinced by the lad, personally.

He has the physique and skill set, and as mentioned he was very influential in the first derby game of the season.

He has certainly had impressive moments in games but, after his initial early flourish, I think he has been largely ordinary and more of a liability.

Even in his early good games, he tended to only play well in one half. Yes, he seemed robust and had good control and ball retention under pressure, but it's a good few games since he consistently showed that ability.

Silva overplayed him during the heavy holiday fixture list of December and January and he looked goosed in many a game as a result. Only now, Silva has seen fit to bench him recently.

That ability to ride a challenge, retain the ball and get a pass off seems to have deserted him, and his passing is very hit and miss – literally.

When he does lose the ball, he has the tendency to give away really cheap fouls. That doesn't make him a 'snide' as someone described him above, but more a silly boy in my book.

I worry a tad that he is similar in price, ability and unrealised potential to many recent signings in the last 2-3 years that we continue to struggle to get off our books and that our money could be better spent elsewhere.

Annika Herbert
24 Posted 22/03/2019 at 03:34:37
Goes could be one of our top players for years so I hope he does sign. I think he will get better with more time in the Premier League and we would struggle to get anyone of his quality at the price being suggested.

As already mentioned, he knows the system now, is used to the players, and should be even better with a full pre-season under his belt. I hope he is signed and I hope he is keen to stay.

Andy Meighan
25 Posted 22/03/2019 at 07:08:59
Great player. He has struggled at times after a blistering start. After his first few games, I couldn't see too many on here saying No. A good pre-season behind him and watch him go.

Seems like he loves the club and the fans have taken to him... so what's not to like? No-brainer for me.

Liam Reilly
26 Posted 22/03/2019 at 07:59:04
Not sure he suits our current shape as the side lacks pace; but that's for the Manager to sort out.

There won't be a lack of suitors if he does become available, including from the top 6.

Dave Abrahams
27 Posted 22/03/2019 at 09:34:28
I'm on the side of “not sure”. When he's good, he looks he could be a good signing; when he's poor, you have to say, very positively, give him a miss.

Sunday's game was one of the latter for me: he should have been off at half-time... mind you, so should have half a dozen of the others!!!

I hope Brands has other players in this position up his sleeve.

Stan Schofield
28 Posted 22/03/2019 at 10:08:37
Jay@23: You're right that his form sank after some encouraging displays, but this happened when the entire team's form sank in the wake of the Anfield derby.

I think that, in reality, when the team as a whole is struggling, not gelling for whatever reason, individual players tend to struggle more individually, in that things don't come off and they lose confidence. Plus, in his case (as you say) he seemed knackered after being possibly overplayed.

It's always difficult to make a judgement on individual players when they struggle in a team that is dysfunctional. I think this is a big issue particularly with our younger players, leading to often premature judgements on them, but it also extends to the more experienced players.

I'd definitely err on the side of wanting to keep him because of what he's shown when on song, which was particularly pleasing at Anfield, making their midfield look mediocre compared with ours.

Les Green
29 Posted 22/03/2019 at 10:17:41
He has a little streak of Arteta in him, which is a bonus.
Michael Lynch
30 Posted 22/03/2019 at 10:21:31
First few months he looked as good as anyone I've seen in a blue shirt in decades. Impossible to knock off the ball, fantastic vision, quick passing, and an absolutely top class beard. He drifted for a bit, but his form seems to be returning.

I think his problems are mostly in his head – he had a torrid time at Barcelona and the impression I got was of a player who is slightly fragile mentally. That's why Everton should suit him well – as long as the boo boys don't get on his back too much.

He's our highest quality player by a long chalk, and I would definitely take a punt on him. Start with him and Gana, go two up, bring on Schneidlerlin. Repeat until we've won the title.

Dave Evans
31 Posted 22/03/2019 at 10:22:49
It's his first season. It takes most players from other leagues a while to cope with the intensity and physicality of the Premier League.

A potential diamond. Buy him.

Sam Hoare
32 Posted 22/03/2019 at 10:44:50
Fran @19, that's a good point. If Gueye leaves (which presumably he will and will prove very tough to replace) then we really don't want to be replacing our whole central midfield.

I just hope we get someone as quick or quicker than Gueye in as we really need that pace and energy in both offensive and defensive transition. Sigurdsson and Gomes sometimes look like they're running in treacle!

John Hammond
33 Posted 22/03/2019 at 11:48:57
He's a class act and hit the ground running so clearly suits the Premier League and enjoys it. I would love him to stay. A forward is top priority but surely next on the list is a couple of pacey, energetic midfielders. Easy!
Jerome Shields
34 Posted 22/03/2019 at 13:09:00
Gomes hopefully will sign for Everton and we get him for reasonable money. If he had played better and was fully fit, I doubt we would have been in the running.

Gomes has shown the effects of his long lay-off at Barcelona and the injury he carried. He will play better next season and Everton will be a more settled squad.

Anthony Flack
35 Posted 22/03/2019 at 13:56:34
BBC saying the reliable Daily Star has us keen on Rondon...
Matthew Williams
36 Posted 22/03/2019 at 14:59:26
There are better and cheaper options available out there. He still hasn't convinced me in any way, shape or form. But no doubt the club will piss away more millions on this bloke in the summer.

What about a midfield three of Vlasic, Besic and Dowell?

Cost? ...nowt!

Tony Everan
37 Posted 22/03/2019 at 15:27:10
Sam #32,

I would like to see Doucoure in if Gana leaves, it would cost us a bit extra, but it would be money well spent.

It would not be a direct replacement, but the player has a touch of class about him.

Also he is a proven, quality premier league player, worked with Marco Silva and one he could possibly convince to come here.

Sam Hoare
38 Posted 22/03/2019 at 15:46:18
Tony, I think Doucoure could well be on Silva's wishlist this summer though as you say he's a very different player to Gueye; more of a box to boxer than a tackling machine. He's not been as good this year as last but still a good player with decent pace, very strong and great energy. I suspect he'll be very over-priced though.

Actually Etienne Capoue has been a better player for Watford this year and runs Gueye fairly close for tackles whilst making more interceptions. Not saying we should go for him (at 30 he's not in Brands target range).

Ndidi at Leicester looks a similar player to Gueye and I quite like Billings at Huddersfield too. Further afield Ibrahim Sangare at Toulouse looks an interesting young player and is one of the few players in Europe to match Gueye's tackle rate.

Phil Martin
39 Posted 22/03/2019 at 15:52:58
Is it too early to get a stiffy over a Doucoure – Gomes partnership next season?
Derek Knox
40 Posted 22/03/2019 at 16:48:38
Phil, oh Nurse! More bromide in that man's tea, and book him in for aversion therapy. :-)
Don Alexander
41 Posted 22/03/2019 at 17:38:56
I think we should try to sign him. That said, our reliance on Gana as "a tackling machine" is indicative of the dysfunctionality of the squad itself and, in my opinion, the screaming need we have to start getting it together at Finch Farm. Such things as, you know, staying there long enough to get consistent in passing to team-mates and then running into position/s to offer the guy in possession an attacking option.

Complex stuff for the IQ of many a modern professional footballer I know, but I thought M&M would have made a positive impression on them all by now, and especially the coaches they inherited.

Maybe it'll happen next season, or the one after that. (Sighs)

Mike Gaynes
42 Posted 22/03/2019 at 17:41:03
I enjoy the enthusiasm Gomes has generated among some here with his one goal and two assists in 25 games, and I gotta admit that Fran's Pogba comparison made me chuckle. But I would agree with the general consensus that at the reported price he is probably worth it, although he's already our third-highest paid player at £111,000 per week and far from being one of our top 3 players.

However... I would caution one and all expecting him to "kick on" and markedly improve to temper their expectations. I've been watching him since 2016 and he has not improved one bit over that time, actually falling back in some areas. He is fragile mentally, he will not score a bunch of goals, and he will not improve defensively. He is what he is. If that's good enough, then let's get 'er done.

Jeff Armstrong
43 Posted 22/03/2019 at 18:23:52
I think this will be another £30 mill wasted on a fair weather player.

Let's see if we get him on another 1 year loan deal and then assess him after 2 seasons, he missed a third of this one getting fit.

I think the jury's out on Mina too until he gets a run of games. If Zouma is not staying, Mina should be in for the rest of this season; if Zouma is staying, I'd still give Mina those games alongside Zouma.

Keane is not convincing.

Justin Doone
44 Posted 22/03/2019 at 18:36:43
Already agreed, it would be a good signing as he is a classy player but I'm not sure he will.

Maybe Doucoure (?) would be a better box to box option but it's all about partnerships.

Gana was wanted by PSG and all they may change their manager again – I think he's the bigger loss.

So we could need a new partnership altogether, now that's frightening!

bryan houghton
45 Posted 22/03/2019 at 19:49:43
My view is whether he gives us something we haven't got - I think probably yes. So, If we go for him, is there someone out there better (and available)? I dunno, but I don't think so.

Therefore, the really important point for me is whether, by squirting a wad full on him, will that effectively stop an U23 coming thru?

I watched the U21 England game last night – 5 Everton players played last night (albeit not at the same time), and the one that stood out, above everyone on the pitch, for me was Keiran Dowell, playing the Gomes role.

And playing it rather excellently. Calm, smooth, at time tenacious, very accurate, with a wide range of sprayed pass, and worked very hard. Never would have thought he had that about him – always saw him as a talented, but slightly light-weight left wide player.

Real food for thought for Brands, and Silva – and without a doubt, for me at least, a real alternative that should call the end for Schneiderlin, or, if we didn't get Gomes, a worthy (albeit young and developing) one of our own coming thru strong.

Steve Powell
46 Posted 22/03/2019 at 22:13:37
Worth keeping, I think.

He won't turn it around by himself, but with, hopefully, better players coming in around him, we could see some good stuff next season.

Ever the optimist!

Ian Smitham
47 Posted 22/03/2019 at 23:51:40
Mike #40, very good analysis of the player. He adds nothing. Get rid.

For gods sake, we let our own diamond go. And before the fuckwits get involved, some semi-professional approach by the club would not not let him go.

I watched him tonight, created two goals, would have got the own goal. Yes, as always, missed passes... but, on a Sunday, I play no-chance passes, not a creative body on me; he tries stuff. He tries the stuff that wins.

I was at the game last week... he was class. The fuckwits booed him some or part of the game... at the time he left the pitch, he applauded each and every part of the ground. For me, he is a hero, a diamond.

And yet, some small-minded fuckwits castigate him for leaving and a chance to win medals, double his money, be a superstar. Who on gods earth would not, and what is your ambition in life – to improve yourself?

Tonight, Ross is probably feeling well about himself and I hope he is, a total fuckup by the small-minded shallow thinking club that we are.

Of course, I may be wrong, then again, different subject, can someone tell me factually, what terms were offered to Moyes to stay as manager?? Facts please ??

The whole thing stinks of incompetence.

Phil Sammon
48 Posted 22/03/2019 at 00:06:43
Surely it all depends on who else is available and who we can ship out.

He's a genuinely wonderful footballer. Incredibly strong on the ball, very composed. But you do have to question if he impacts the game enough. He's not great defensively and you wouldn't want him as a Number 10 either.

Like most of our midfield, he is a really awkward player to accommodate.

Then again, if he could defend, score goals and do it every week, he wouldn't be playing for Everton... would he?

Don Alexander
49 Posted 23/03/2019 at 00:51:19
Ian (#45), your "diamond" is now 25 years old, the same age as Kane, but has yet to shed the "promising" coat that he's allowed to engulf him since he was 18. With the teenage talent on the pitch with him tonight, and several others younger than him, including Sterling and Alli, I'd say he's reached his peak as a mere benchwarmer for club and country.

That said, the reason most of us despise him is the way he left the club negating any chance we had of ever making money for developing him and sticking with him through serious injury for years. In short, he's a shit.

James Stewart
50 Posted 23/03/2019 at 01:07:58
I was initially impressed by Gomes but I don't think he is what we need.

On the ball, he is a top player but, out of possession, he is an utter liability. I've never seen someone so languid. It's a no from me.

Si Cooper
51 Posted 23/03/2019 at 01:27:59
A talented player but maybe a jack of all trades in midfielder terms, and patchy for us thus far.

I would like to know where Mike got his crystal ball from though? He is not quite 26 and I think it is a bold prediction to say he couldn't flourish given the right manager and the right teammates.

It is all about blends in any successful team. Reid and Bracewell worked very well but you would be hard put to find like for like players in the teams currently top of the pile. Instead of saying Gomes or Doucoure, I would be interested in pairing the two, especially if Gana goes in the summer.

What seems trickier to me is deciding whether Gomes is to be given more license to be attacking because he isn't that defensive rock / tackling machine, in which case it is probably Sigurdson or him, rather than both.

Derek Thomas
52 Posted 23/03/2019 at 01:49:26
After the Pickford derby, my kopite brother-in-law – after he'd finished laughing – said "If you lot don't buy him, I'd be annoyed if we didn't have a go for him."

As long as it's not for Siggurdson silly money, £25-30M max.

John Pierce
53 Posted 23/03/2019 at 03:48:21
I'm not sold on this, not because the fella doesn't have skills but for the main problem this season is a style Silva wants using a midfield with isn't balanced to that end. The blend isn't right, a bit like Gana, decent player but too one dimensional. He's a player rebuilding his career at Everton, so for the money we might spend can Brands find an emerging player with a higher ceiling?

I'm not even sure a full pre-season would get a significant amount more from him. Maybe.

Can't say we should spunk for than a Davvy Klaassen on him?

The catch being without him we do look well shit in midfield...

Eddie Dunn
54 Posted 23/03/2019 at 08:14:57
He is a classy player but needs to be fitter. Hopefully by next season, with a good preseason under his belt he can start lasting the full ninety.
Tony Abrahams
55 Posted 23/03/2019 at 08:17:32
I watched Barkley on Sunday, some great touches, but only really played on the periphery of the game imo, even when Chelsea were in full control.

All about opinions, but a hero and a diamond? I’ve never felt Barkley was either of these, and honestly feel that with all of his natural ability, that he maybe even holds himself back at times, especially now he’s playing with all these better players at Chelsea?

Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
56 Posted 23/03/2019 at 09:03:23
Don (#48) calls it right. The frustration is the same as Rooney in that they did not stay to turn us around. But, while Rooney was leveraged out by his agent, Ross had the chance to leave and then stopped so we got less.

What those of us surviving on tens, hundreds or thousands of pounds can never understand is why highly paid sports stars can never get enough millions of pounds and need tens or hundreds when one would satisfy the rest of us.

Colin Glassar
57 Posted 23/03/2019 at 09:17:57
I’m not 100% sure about him. He’s very slow and is lightweight when it comes to any sort of physical contact. I don’t doubt his skill, or vision, but I still think we should’ve gone for someone like James Maddison who’s been a revelation this season.
Sam Hoare
58 Posted 23/03/2019 at 09:48:49
Not sure Gomes and Doucore is a dream pairing. Neither is great defensively with Doucore making 2 tackles a game and Gomes 1.4 tackles. Gueye makes over 4 a game.

Yesterday on this thread I mentioned a lad called Ibrahim Sangare and then weirdly this morning read a few trash gossip sites saying he was one of Brands top targets. He’s very raw but has great energy and presence, he’s been a colossus at times for Toulouse and one of the few players in Europe to make as many tackles as Gueye.

Phillip Warrington
59 Posted 23/03/2019 at 16:47:40
How about Beni Baningime as a replacement for Gueye or Gomes? The lad's form before he was stupidly sent out on loan warranted an extended run in the first team. He is a player if the club shows some confidence in, we could build a team around... but no, we ship them out on loan to weaker clubs and players like Beni then lose confidence and form and we then sell them for an undisclosed fee.

We then spend £30 - 50 mill on Schneiderlin or Gomes – Gomes will cost Everton the best part of £50 mill with the new interest from other clubs. Everton could have one of the most exciting young teams with the right manager but won't because the Everton way is stay with the middle-of-the-road, tried and tested Premier League experience-type player.

Rob Marsh
60 Posted 23/03/2019 at 19:07:55
I like him, he does however drift out of games and only really lacks a bit of consistency.

Then again, if he did show this consistency his price would 2x more. Let's hope he comes to us and then finds that consistency (but not before then!).

Rob Marsh
61 Posted 24/03/2019 at 01:00:56
My assumption is that 1x = £25-35m, if it goes to 2x or close we should be moving on.
Mark Andersson
62 Posted 24/03/2019 at 01:08:12
Can someone explain to me the difference between pre season training to get fit and getting fit over a period of time during a season..

Yes I can understand a player at the start if the season not being match fit if they had no preseaso.. but surley if tge likes of Gomes stratrted the season surley by December he should have been fit enough and not faded away like he did...

Cheers

Tommy Surgenor
63 Posted 24/03/2019 at 01:18:05
Not convinced he has the physical or mental attributes for the premier league.

On his day he is a Rolls Royce but he has gone massively off the boil to become bang average.

I think teams have figured him out. He doesn’t seem to be anywhere near as positive with his passing.

I would want someone more athletic, strong and agressive in the middle of the park.

Henry Lloyd
64 Posted 24/03/2019 at 03:13:20
Mike #42.

Surprisingly, I agree with you for once, which is not a bad thing.

Can I ask: How do you know that this player is on £111,000 a week?

Fran Mitchell
65 Posted 24/03/2019 at 04:43:18
Mark, I guess during pre season players do more intensive fitness training, more time dedicated to running up hills, lifting weights more 'body conditioning '

Whilst during the season, training is more focused on tactics, ball play, in game movement and such things. Meaning players who miss pre season may miss certain levels of physical conditioning.

I say this as a complete layman with no experience in football training.

Fran Mitchell
66 Posted 24/03/2019 at 04:49:44
Tommy, doesn't have the physical attributes?

6'-1", strong, powerful look at the goal he made at Newcastle, that is what he needs to do more.

He is silky in the ball, but he isn't at all like Arteta. He needs to play like a box-box No 8, drive forward. He has the attributes and the skill.

For £25 million he'd be a bargain, and if we could get him to play with more drive, more aggression, he'd be a real force to be reckoned with.

Alan J Thompson
67 Posted 24/03/2019 at 05:36:28
Phillip (#59); How dare you question the loaning out of our young players. Have not Brands and Silva said, on many occasions, that youth is a very important feature and future of the club. Obviously, not that important that they would get a game or even a run of games in the first team.

As has often been said, we can't play them all at the same time and that bloke, Calvert-Lewin, he's the one who's been getting a run. Next you'll be saying that Baningime, Calvert-Lewin, Davies, Dowell, Kenny and Lookman should get a game in the same team which might seriously challenge their future status never mind undermine the position of those for whom we've paid fortunes.

Not to worry, I'm sure we're due a press conference soon when they'll all probably get a mention especially how they are not doing at training.

Steve Ferns
68 Posted 24/03/2019 at 08:35:55
Fran, training is played at “match speed”. Players don’t drop to the reserves as training is meant to keep your fitness at the desired levels and a stroll through a low level game can throw that. Silva’s training is said to be particular intense and fast. Maybe this is why Lookman is adjudged to be lacking effort?
Tony Abrahams
69 Posted 24/03/2019 at 09:08:36
I’d say you can give a footballer intensive training at any given time, but pre-season is all about easing players back-in?

Get them fit, and let them have a few practice games, to let the body get used to playing again, and also a time for players to catch their second wind, before the serious stuff really starts?

I’m sure Everton were super-fit, at the start of David Moyes’s last season, (maybe 2nd to last?) we beat United first game, and went on a great run playing some super football, but once Feb came, some of the players were on their knees, and this told in the end?

Dave Abrahams
70 Posted 24/03/2019 at 09:15:44
Whatever training Everton have their players doing we only seem to able to play one half of every game.
Tony Abrahams
71 Posted 24/03/2019 at 09:37:32
Still not grasping the tactics Dave? Because I’m sure you can teach any dog to run.
Terence Leong
72 Posted 24/03/2019 at 09:46:08
For between £25 to 35 million, Gomes is worth the buy. Which top player can we get for that price?

He's coming into his prime years, and will get better.

He is prepared to be physical where needed, after one season, he will acclimatize to the game.

The dip in form is not just his, but the whole team's.

The fact remains, that our club is not at the stage where we can attract top tier players.

I would have liked that we kept Barkley, and re-signed Deuleofeu. Especially for Del boy, I felt that we missed the boat, looking at how he is faring at Watford. At the least, he seems to be more effective than Walcott.

Amit Vithlani
73 Posted 24/03/2019 at 10:10:05
Gomes is a fine player, but I don't think he fits in a midfield 3 with Sigurdsson and Gana. Gomes as the creative force, alongside a proper box-to-box player, with the 3rd player dropping anchor, would be better balanced.
Gavin McGarvey
74 Posted 24/03/2019 at 12:01:10
As has been said above, I'm not sure we'll get him as he is in the bracket of players that Champions League clubs will go for. That being said, we have had this season to show what we're about as a club, and we have started to invest more seriously in players than in the past.

Being realistic, I think it depends on who comes in for him and the kind of contract we offer him. He's really a good player though, and I know he's not the same as Arteta, but he's similar in that he's quite a cultured creative midfielder, something we've not been overly blessed with since Arteta left.

Jack Convery
75 Posted 24/03/2019 at 21:05:40
He will stay if we show ambition in the summer – get the deadwood out and the weak-minded in the squad. More like him Digne, Richarlson, Gueye and Zouma are required.
Dave Abrahams
76 Posted 24/03/2019 at 21:47:09
Tony (71), maybe Everton have got mostly greyhounds, they can't half run... but not very far — and only for a few minutes.
Lee Brownlie
77 Posted 25/03/2019 at 08:14:01
Fran Mitchell (#20)

'And we need to stop with this, "let's sign an Erikson-type player... Jesus...'

Then likening Toffees fans wishing for that that type of player to wanting a Maldini, Cafu, Veira, Cantona, Maradona... etc... in their respective positions (mm.. ya really think?)

But then finishing off, anyway, with, 'not easy but we should be aiming for that'???

Well, sorry an all that, but that doesn't actually make a lot of sense to me. You're just contradicting yourself even if that's truly how high you regard Erikson, no? Er, yes. We both should and shouldn't be wishing for such a 'top-shelf' player... that the idea? Like I say, I really just didn't get your 'point'. (I also don't agree that your Mr Erikson is on a par with any of those proven 'legends'.)

As for Gomes, I'd be very VERY happy for him to stay with us permanently, but he sure isn't going to do this as a 'squad player' only, as some are suggesting. So.. either we 'believe' in him, convince him he's a big part of our plans going forward, or say 'Naah, fuck that!'.. and let him go to Spurs or whoever... Strikes me, though, that he IS rated highly enough by others - even Herr Klopp - not just by our own management, that letting him slip away for elsewhere would be a pretty dumb mistake!!!

James Lauwervine
78 Posted 25/03/2019 at 11:46:43
Worth signing if only for the quality of his hair. My wife's a hairdresser so I know a bit about these things.

Seriously though, I like him a lot and if he's £20-25m then surely that's worth it given his superiority to some of the players we've bought in recent seasons for around this amount.

Tony Everan
79 Posted 25/03/2019 at 12:06:20
James #77

Are you saying that if he has a baldy No 1 crew cut, we should offload him?

I see what you mean though, his mane has that glowing lustrous sheen, tousled yet groomed. Never mind Inter, L'Oreal may outbid us for him.

James Lauwervine
80 Posted 25/03/2019 at 13:02:57
Exactly Tony! Think about Joe Hart and Head & Shoulders, or the RS and Nivea (which is hilarious by the way). Adverts are supposed to make you want the product - does anyone want Joe Hart's hair, or Adam fucking Lallana's? It's very easy to imagine our Andre outshining them all.
Sam Hoare
81 Posted 25/03/2019 at 14:10:49
Amit@73 I agree that they are not ideally suited as midfield partners but I'm not sure Gomes has it in him to be the 'creative force'. In his whole career he has 8 assists over 175 games. Sigurdsson got 13 in one season with Swansea.

Equally Gomes has only 13 goals in all those games. Gylfi is on 12 for us this season alone.

Gomes has to be the box to boxer I think. Though as I said earlier i'm not convinced he's got the pace or stamina for it.

Dave Abrahams
82 Posted 25/03/2019 at 14:54:44
Sam (80), I tend to agree with you re Gomes, but I wouldn’t be persuaded by stats, one way or the other, I think Colin Harvey only scored eighteen league goals for Everton in well over three hundred fifty league games, so stats can be very misleading.
Sam Hoare
83 Posted 25/03/2019 at 15:23:14
Thanks Dave, stats are an interesting and divisive issue. They can certainly give a very misleading picture of things but then so can most anecdotal evidence.

Broadly speaking I think a combination of well chosen stats (there are good and bad stats!) testimony and instinct are the best way to judge a player.

Bernard for example does not have amazing creative stats but when I see him he is often linking play superbly whilst showing surprising fight. My instinct is that he’ll be a fan favourite next season.

Not so sure about Gomes though he has the talent.

Jay Harris
84 Posted 25/03/2019 at 15:26:47
The only question for me is can he score/assist more goals.

All the silky skills in the world count for nothing if were not scoring goals from midfield.

I would compare him to Madison at Leicester and Declan Rice at West Ham who are both younger, more mobile and cost about the same.

I rate him for where we are at but not where I would like us to be (if that makes sense).

David Connor
85 Posted 25/03/2019 at 17:25:39
Not convinced with this fella. His form has dropped dramatically since the defeat at Anfield, before that he looked brilliant. If they want a king's ransom for him I would forget him. £20-25 million is tops for me. Look how many duds we have paid well over the odds for in the last couple of seasons. Tosun, Walcott and Klassen to name three. £70+ million for three no-marks. Do we waste some bloody cash?!?
Tony Everan
86 Posted 25/03/2019 at 19:42:58
Yes, Jay. We missed a trick last summer with Madison, maybe he felt Leicester was right for him though.
Peter Warren
87 Posted 25/03/2019 at 20:20:24
Agree about Maddison.
Mike Gaynes
88 Posted 25/03/2019 at 20:57:45
Henry #64, there are several websites that publish the payroll lists of all the clubs. I usually use spotrac.com. Here's Everton:

Everton F.C. 2018-19 Payroll

Peter/Tony, agreed about Maddison but it's easy to see why he chose Leicester. He wouldn't have gotten many minutes ahead of Gylfi. But Jay, he's a completely different player to Gomes -- much more active, much more intense, and a true #10 in terms of style. He'd have been a great add for us.

Karen Mason
89 Posted 28/03/2019 at 15:36:19
Joey at #9. That's funny!! I agree. Mr Gomez is a quality player for me. Those who are saying ' inconsistent', are perhaps, not taking into account that he started for us with no pre- season behind him. Played precious little football for a season before that. Played every game over Christmas & New Year, covering every blade of grass & playing a physical role. That alone, probably emptied his only half full cupboard of energy reserves. Playing so many games so close together is not something done in La Liga ( or anywhere else). His form dipped after that, but when he began to recover physically, so has his form. He seems to be able to mix being physically strong, not afraid of a confrontation type player, with silky skills. For me, would be such a valuable addition to our squad.

Add Your Comments

In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site.

» Log in now

Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site.


About these ads



© ToffeeWeb


Latest News

Online Football Betting with Betway

Bet on Everton and get a deposit bonus with bet365 at TheFreeBetGuide.com



Recent Articles





Talking Points & General Forum

Pinned Links

OK

We use cookies to enhance your experience on ToffeeWeb and to enable certain features. By using the website you are consenting to our use of cookies in accordance with our cookie policy.