Lookman has been linked with a £20m move to Southampton, with RB Leipzig, Crystal Palace and Bournemouth also interested, while Cenk Tosun, Oumar Niasse, James McCarthy, Jonjoe Kenny, Leighton Baines, Sandro Ramirez , Kevin Mirallas, Muhamed Besic, Yannick Bolasie and Maarten Stekelenburg are also mentioned.
The article is essentially a list of what the Mail deem to be out-of-favour players at Goodison but Baines has reportedly been lined up for a one-year contract extension and Kenny might be sent out on loan rather than sold outright if Marco Silva doesn't see a role for him in the first team next season.
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1 Posted 18/05/2019 at 23:35:53
Back up the truck.
2 Posted 19/05/2019 at 00:20:27
Perhaps its a number of people. Or perhaps it was a computer.
3 Posted 19/05/2019 at 00:22:56
Id keep Baines, Stek and Kenny for varyious reasons, and like many Id like to see Lookman given more chance to develop, but I guess with two years left on his contract youd get maximum by selling him this window.
Ashley Williams is off the wage bill next month and that will save over £3m p.a. on his wages. No fee though as hes out of contract
4 Posted 19/05/2019 at 00:25:59
5 Posted 19/05/2019 at 01:28:34
Has this miasma been visited on us by fate or a human? Personally, I tend to believe it's a human... you know, the same human who somehow enticed Moshiri to make him wealthy beyond his wildest dreams after having done fuck all for us for decades.
Ho-hum, the disappointing summer to come will be as a consequence of this human's activities on the historic transfer front, that's all... and he and his appointees are still allowed to be in post.
6 Posted 19/05/2019 at 04:09:01
7 Posted 19/05/2019 at 04:37:27
8 Posted 19/05/2019 at 05:58:17
That's another Boardroom secret out in the open again, investigative journalism at its height. Time for an internal inquiry and a revision of the "need to know" list.
I don't suppose there's any chance of just paying 2 weeks a year redundancy, a reference and chance of a job at Barca?
9 Posted 19/05/2019 at 06:11:32
The hardest thing for those who know... is bending their heads round the fact that there are others that... don't!
10 Posted 19/05/2019 at 06:58:00
I suspect the Club will take a big hit on many of them, virtually going for a fraction of what they initially cost, just to get them off the gravy train.
11 Posted 19/05/2019 at 07:26:01
If Lookman goes and Walcott stays, I'll be pissed off.
12 Posted 19/05/2019 at 08:43:25
13 Posted 19/05/2019 at 09:15:39
14 Posted 19/05/2019 at 09:26:17
Did anyone see Pep still coaching his players after the final whistle yesterday, that's what it takes
15 Posted 19/05/2019 at 09:51:58
16 Posted 19/05/2019 at 09:53:54
Anyway, I can't wait to ruin the transfer market again!
17 Posted 19/05/2019 at 10:18:03
18 Posted 19/05/2019 at 10:28:51
I think several clubs will be looking at Lookman and Vlasic. I think we'll double our money on the £8m we paid for Vlasic and Saints will probably pay £20m for Lookman. I rate Lookman very highly but he hasn't moved on to where he should be this season and while I would hate for him to be sold ahead of Walcott and Bolasie, Ideally we'll sell all three of them and bring in either Hirving Lozano or David Neres.
We should also bring in some decent money from our homegrown players with Dowell (10 or £12m to Sheffield United maybe?!) plus Pennington and Connolly, both of whom are worth 4 to £6m in today's market. Jonjoe Kenny's name in the report is a surprise. Then again, Zouma deputising for Coleman at RB against Spurs gave me the impression that Silva isn't sure about Kenny.
19 Posted 19/05/2019 at 10:37:49
20 Posted 19/05/2019 at 10:54:33
The responsibility for the waste of money lies with the manager and director of football, ie, Koeman, Walsh and Allardyce. It takes me back to the late eighties when we wasted all of the Lineker money on Cottee, Nevin, Beagrie etc and the only difference is this time we have a wealthy owner who can withstand the outlay.
In fairness, the more recent regime has also bought players who have increased in value: Pickford, Vlasic, Lookman, Gueye, Calvert-Lewin, Digne and, as mentioned above, we have a few young players who will generate a few million if sold.
I would keep Kenny – he can hold his own in the first team and has scope to improve still. We all know 90% of who must go and we will have to keep Sandro and see if he can be coached unless someone offers to take him. Tosun is ok but is not that good at anything in particular and I would keep Lookman if he is happy to stay. He always gives me the impression of not really being happy here and whether that is a lack of first-team football or he just doesn't like being on Merseyside, I don't know.
Schneiderlin must stay if Gomes doesn't and if Gueye leaves that means we have two central midfielders to find plus a striker. It's going to be an interesting summer.
21 Posted 19/05/2019 at 10:57:33
The Daily Mail; A newspaper produced by officeboys for officeboys - Lord Cecil.
(For 'officeboy' think a less mature, less intelligent version of Pike from Dad's Army. )
22 Posted 19/05/2019 at 11:03:16
23 Posted 19/05/2019 at 11:12:37
He sounds like he's got his head screwed on, that young man. Slowly, a culture is being built which, we can hope, will mean that fat contracts for half-arsed piss-takers can be avoided.
24 Posted 19/05/2019 at 11:50:14
25 Posted 19/05/2019 at 11:55:21
So we are now in a position were our squad size and wage bill are of mammoth proportions, and just to underline how bad our transfer policy was. Practically none of the players bought and loaned out apart from Vlasic are wanted by the clubs they were loaned too. So unless we give them all a free transfer then we will have all these players returning to Finch Farm this summer. The manager doesn't want them there and these players don't want to be there, so you can imagine the kind of negative atmosphere these returning players will create.
Also because of this stupid loan system both in and out, will probably come back to hurt us. Gomes off to Spurs and the biggest loss Zouma back at Chelsea. So yet another summer of rebuilding to take place. Where if we had done our business properly and bought both these players then the improvement that we have seen over the past few months could have continued.
Also both these players could have been bought rather than loaned, so now Silva with his coaching has showed Chelsea what an asset Zouma is and again the same is true with Gomes we have opened up other possibilities to him that werent there last summer.
26 Posted 19/05/2019 at 15:03:36
Any or all of these players who need to be cleared out now could also have been successful buys; every buy is a risk and most fail. The concept that there is somebody at the club responsible for deliberately signing a pile of duffers is beyond any belief.
Buys are especially risky when you're struggling and underfunded like we were when we made them.
27 Posted 19/05/2019 at 15:40:23
On the other hand, Vlasic, Onyekuru, Bolasie, Holgate and the youngsters have done well enough to be wanted back to the clubs that loaned them, along with Dowell.
I think Silva has to make his mind up quicker next season on who goes out on loan because Davies, Holgate, Dowell and Lookman could've done with going out sooner it's been a bit of a waste. Lookman looks a miserable spoilt kid – hardly looks like breaking a smile but retains the hope of most of us.
With the appointment of Brands, l think Moshiri had made his best choice since coming into the club. Spurs didn't buy any new players for 18 months allowing the players Pochettino had to grow and be coached. Hopefully we won't be recruiting large numbers this summer. Just quality. I know there are discussions on here about what strikers to buy.
Is Rondon good enough? Well he'd be an improvement that's for sure... and has a buy out clause in his contract for under £20M. If we don't get Gomes, I'd be looking at Tielemans who was loaned to Leicester.
28 Posted 19/05/2019 at 16:12:16
29 Posted 19/05/2019 at 16:37:54
We have historically granted foolish contracts in length and salary to Niasse, Mirallas and Williams (at least).
I accept that no transfer business is scientific but our current overloaded, unbalanced squad is the result of sloppiness and has left Brands with a major task before we can regroup.
There is more than enough room for someone or some persons to take responsibility, though that won't happen.
30 Posted 19/05/2019 at 16:45:00
Send out comms to all Premier League chairmen and selected European chairmen stating that players will be offered with low reserve and the highest bidder wins.
Everyone is invited to attend a SINGLE auction event involving ALL players in sequence and the successful parties will be invited to discuss terms with the player. If they are not successful the next highest bidder is invited and so on.
We might sell players for less than we had hoped but we will also get an audience for the auction of some players for whom we might never receive an offer if left to the market.
31 Posted 19/05/2019 at 16:49:04
Brian #24, how do you know Zouma and Gomes "could have been bought rather than loaned"? Got inside information? My impression was that neither player was made available for sale, with good reason it turned out.
32 Posted 19/05/2019 at 16:52:47
Although not news as such, Galatasary have already agreed a one-year loan deal for Onyekuru. At least we may yet see him in an Everton shirt, eventually.
33 Posted 19/05/2019 at 17:38:49
34 Posted 19/05/2019 at 17:43:54
Yes, for sure they should be finally let go permanently !!!
The '' new'' Everton should start now but it's a pity Bainsey got old.
35 Posted 19/05/2019 at 18:03:21
Its quite a list isnt it.
Stekelenburg (model pro)
Should be sold but probably for half of what we paid
Sold for a profit
Lookman (reluctantly imo)
Baines deserves another year
Jags dependent on Zouma situation retain for another year, if not he should be allowed to go for a smallish fee, he deserves it. Another model pro.
Ive probably missed one or two, but regrettably quite a few will still be with us, on silly money and long contracts.
Can you see Daniel Levy conducting business like we did with the above?
No way and look where they are now.
Perhaps we will catch them up, but not for several years.
36 Posted 19/05/2019 at 18:09:30
37 Posted 19/05/2019 at 19:23:43
A conservative estimate across the three squads was 40 players wed like to see the back of.
Realistically, all clubs have to wind in their purchases of overrated foreign imports on crazy money.
38 Posted 19/05/2019 at 20:02:33
I do seem to remember Spurs wasting a lot of money after the Bale windfall and buying quite a few duds.
As with youth players you cant integrate a shedload of new faces into a team and expect an instant improvement.
Get the team stable and then graually improve the quality.
That now seems to be the plan thankfully.
39 Posted 19/05/2019 at 20:05:59
I think hes got ability, and although it would surprise me if he came back to Everton, then it certainly wouldnt disappoint me because I think he could do well under Marco Silva?
40 Posted 19/05/2019 at 20:19:04
41 Posted 19/05/2019 at 21:59:07
Only silver lining is another year down a couple more are at the end of their contracts, like Williams. Can't see past more loans for most of these in the coming year.
42 Posted 19/05/2019 at 22:02:20
Why not encourage Tim Cahill to come back. He's knowledgeable and articulate on sky and would command respect in the dressing room, especially when things are going South.
Perhaps he could exorcise the demons that prevent us competing against the reds although the last two games showed some improvement.
43 Posted 19/05/2019 at 22:43:08
44 Posted 19/05/2019 at 22:54:45
Just one of those things if you need money to compensate players for a n unliklihood of winning anything.
We need to get on with it.
45 Posted 19/05/2019 at 23:50:42
Recycling the ball in play which generally for part of this season we were poor at, must now be default standard, at the club administration levels. In context doing the job.
To get these players off the books will take a miracle, but hopefully a sign of more reality and business management at EFC.
The costs of failure is immense, and I wont be doing the calculations but per annum x per contract year, the burden to the club is immense.
Factor in our success ration, the last 30 years, and its another story for the Sages, to explain.
How can Everton thrive, and surely now the coin has dropped at GP and FF, about maintaining bench mark standards, in managing, EFC?
46 Posted 20/05/2019 at 01:23:29
You're right in what you say.
Another example of bringing in 11 or 12 players in, in one big hit, was Fulham and look where that got them!
47 Posted 20/05/2019 at 09:37:29
48 Posted 20/05/2019 at 09:39:54
49 Posted 20/05/2019 at 11:24:20
Years ago clubs were ruthless with players, which is why clauses like "loyalty bonus" and testimonials were created. Many footballers back in the day used to have to get a "proper job" after playing. I'm still mortified that when I did my flying training at RAF Woodvale in the 1980s, the security guard was a certain Gordon West.
These days you can be a millionaire without kicking a ball for the first team. Yet many of these archaic loyalty bonuses still remain. Agents, as ever, are the root of the problem. Nothing will change. Gravy train.
50 Posted 20/05/2019 at 16:33:54
Don, are you as amused as I am that every time you post, as sure as night follows day, the Terrys and Mikes are on your case? Our club is rife with nepotism and that's something that can only start at the top. Their unimaginative automatic reflex responses to you are the equivalent of the being called a bitter blue by the RS whenever we make a justifiable criticism of their team/club.
51 Posted 20/05/2019 at 22:03:03
The arrival of Brands also doesn't mean that the people who handled our transfers pre-Brands were in any way incompetent. Brands is top of his profession and came when we had purchasing power and sorted finances in place. Previous buys were made when we were underfunded and were willing to take risk on purchases, when we were desperate for survival.
Like Don, I'd say that you have no understanding of how the club has worked then and now only what myths you believe. Don deserves a bit of criticism for what he says, especially the delusion that he does understand it and knows better than the great unwashed. Most fans understand the issues and, who knows, possibly a lot better than you and Don do.
52 Posted 20/05/2019 at 22:38:38
53 Posted 20/05/2019 at 22:41:32
That's the only explanation I have for Schneiderlin's return to form. Might it work the same for others?
54 Posted 20/05/2019 at 22:48:34
But it is the foul-mouthed way in which Don personally attacks Mr Kenwright in his posts that upsets me. Go back and read the second paragraph of #5 in this thread. His first paragraph actually contains "justifiable" truths (using your word) and if he had left it at that, fair dos. Do you think there is anything that justifies the turn on Mr Kenwright yet again? All of Don's posts end up with an attack on Mr Kenwright, the Chairman of the club we support, even when there is little in the basic theme of the thread to warrant comment being made about him at all. As Mike pointed out (#7) it does seem to be a compulsion.
Martin (#51) has taken issue with you accusing the club of "nepotism" without "evidence". I have questioned you before about a lack of stating any evidence when you are critical of our CEO – criticisms that strike me, at least, as being more personal than being based in any solid foundation of facts. And does Don know for an actual fact that Mr Kenwright is "wealthy beyond his wildest dreams", has Don seen his financial statement or tax returns, perhaps? If not, then he is speculating in a way just to suit his own motives.
"Justifiable" criticisms are part of being a fan. "Justifiable" responses that question the initial post and the motives behind it are also part of being a fan. You and Don have your opinions; I have mine. And as long as there are people on TW who feel the need to express their personal views in such a way that offends my sense of decency, then I will continue to rebut them.
55 Posted 21/05/2019 at 04:56:52
That said, it's not a great indictment that Swansea have let him go. I remember that I was gutted when our deal fell through for him back in Feb 2013.
56 Posted 21/05/2019 at 05:12:43
57 Posted 21/05/2019 at 07:47:02
58 Posted 21/05/2019 at 10:42:55
Out of the returning loanees, I wouldnt be surprised to see Williams, Holgate and maybe even Connolly around the first team squad, whereas Id like to see Dowell around it.
I feel that Robinson will be sent on loan again if Baines gets his year extension, I feel weve probably seen the last of Pennington and Im concerned that Baningime has flopped so much at Wigan - dont know whether well try again with a loan for him or let him go.
In terms of wages potentially saved... (courtesy of spotrac - I know the Sandro one is disputed)
Over £780k per week if we manage to shift them all, that doesnt count the reduced wages that Jagielka (50k) and Baines (70k) will be on.
Well be looking at around a £40million saving per year!!
59 Posted 21/05/2019 at 19:22:38
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