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Everton are looking to ship around 15 players out during the current transfer window with Ademola Lookman heading the list of departing personnel according to the Daily Mail.

Lookman has been linked with a £20m move to Southampton, with RB Leipzig, Crystal Palace and Bournemouth also interested, while Cenk Tosun, Oumar Niasse, James McCarthy, Jonjoe Kenny, Leighton Baines, Sandro Ramirez , Kevin Mirallas, Muhamed Besic, Yannick Bolasie and Maarten Stekelenburg are also mentioned.

The article is essentially a list of what the Mail deem to be out-of-favour players at Goodison but Baines has reportedly been lined up for a one-year contract extension and Kenny might be sent out on loan rather than sold outright if Marco Silva doesn't see a role for him in the first team next season.



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Mike Gaynes
1 Posted 18/05/2019 at 23:35:53
Beep Beep Beep Beep Beep

Back up the truck.

Tony Hill
2 Posted 19/05/2019 at 00:20:27
What an indictment of the person who has been responsible for granting/extending contracts over the relevant period and balancing the squad. Does anyone know who that is?

Perhaps it’s a number of people. Or perhaps it was a computer.

Karl Masters
3 Posted 19/05/2019 at 00:22:56
You’d raise about £80m and save about £25m a year in wages if it happened.

I’d keep Baines, Stek and Kenny for varyious reasons, and like many I’d like to see Lookman given more chance to develop, but I guess with two years left on his contract you’d get maximum by selling him this window.

Ashley Williams is off the wage bill next month and that will save over £3m p.a. on his wages. No fee though as he’s out of contract

Jay Harris
4 Posted 19/05/2019 at 00:25:59
Shouldn't the headline read "Mail plans Everton summer clearout"?
Don Alexander
5 Posted 19/05/2019 at 01:28:34
Whatever the credentials of the press report, we have a squad bloated with high-wage players on too-long contracts with little ability to justify them; ergo, we take a massive financial hit in maintaining their opulent lifestyle that as a consequence limits our ability to purge Finch Farm of waster characters whilst, at the same time, limiting our expenditure on new players to change the tide within the first-team squad.

Has this miasma been visited on us by fate or a human? Personally, I tend to believe it's a human... you know, the same human who somehow enticed Moshiri to make him wealthy beyond his wildest dreams after having done fuck all for us for decades.

Ho-hum, the disappointing summer to come will be as a consequence of this human's activities on the historic transfer front, that's all... and he and his appointees are still allowed to be in post.

Strewth!

Terry White
6 Posted 19/05/2019 at 04:09:01
At it again, Don (#5)?
Mike Gaynes
7 Posted 19/05/2019 at 04:37:27
It's a compulsion, Terry. Whatever the subject, he reflexively turns to the same fixation. Couldn't stop himself if he tried.
Alan J Thompson
8 Posted 19/05/2019 at 05:58:17
I'm shocked!

That's another Boardroom secret out in the open again, investigative journalism at its height. Time for an internal inquiry and a revision of the "need to know" list.

I don't suppose there's any chance of just paying 2 weeks a year redundancy, a reference and chance of a job at Barca?

Tom Dodds
9 Posted 19/05/2019 at 06:11:32
Don #5

The hardest thing for those who know... is bending their heads round the fact that there are others that... don't!

Derek Knox
10 Posted 19/05/2019 at 06:58:00
We all know It's needed, but not that easy to move on in many cases, because of the ridiculous wages they are on, not to mention the overpayment in the first place too.

I suspect the Club will take a big hit on many of them, virtually going for a fraction of what they initially cost, just to get them off the gravy train.

Steve Brown
11 Posted 19/05/2019 at 07:26:01
I think there are more on that list – Martina, Tarashaj, Vlasic, Galloway, Connolly, Pennington?

If Lookman goes and Walcott stays, I'll be pissed off.

Sam Hoare
12 Posted 19/05/2019 at 08:43:25
Sandro may prove the hardest to shift permanently. There was an article in the echo that suggested Silva may be forced to try and coach him back to the player he seemed at Malaga (who outscored Messi). He’s still so young, I wonder if it’s possible he could turn it around at Everton? Wouldn’t bet on it but then I’d practically written Michael Keane off after his first season.
Mike Connolly
13 Posted 19/05/2019 at 09:15:39
With you on that one Sam. Keane has been a major turn around. Perhaps Bill can get his phone out and start texting Sandro telling him how good he will be... just like he did with Keane.
James Hughes
14 Posted 19/05/2019 at 09:26:17
Dam, I also hope Silva can get Sandro playing to a good level. I thought the lad showed touches of class, then he signed for us and got lost in the asylum.

Did anyone see Pep still coaching his players after the final whistle yesterday, that's what it takes

Dale Rose
15 Posted 19/05/2019 at 09:51:58
Turning players round... It's worked with Schneiderlin, who's a different player now. Ramirez may be more difficult to turn round. Lookman, I will be sorry to see go. He just hasn't fitted in.


James Newcombe
16 Posted 19/05/2019 at 09:53:54
I think we've tried to have a clear out the last couple of summers, and it never seems to work – I'd be surprised if we move on seven players permanently.

Anyway, I can't wait to ruin the transfer market again!

Christopher Timmins
17 Posted 19/05/2019 at 10:18:03
I would not like to see Jonjoe Kenny being sold, though the fact that he was not used when Seamus was injured for the Spurs game is not a good sign. I still say that, before the 17-day break in February, he was one of our better players and I was surprised when Seamus was recalled for the Cardiff game. I wonder if there was a falling out? If he departs, we need to bring in a right-back.
Gavin Johnson
18 Posted 19/05/2019 at 10:28:51
Even though it's a big job I think that we should be able to move most of them on relatively easily. The only outgoings that might be more troublesome are the strikers - Sandro, Niasse and Tosun. There will be a lot of clubs interested in Tosun but I should think we'll have to take at least a £10m hit on the fee. If we sell Niasse for £5m, that would be decent business after his woeful loan spell at Cardiff. I don't see any club wanting to buy Sandro. I think we'll have to loan him again, or we'll have to give him another chance but I see little chance of him making any appearances other than League cup games.

I think several clubs will be looking at Lookman and Vlasic. I think we'll double our money on the £8m we paid for Vlasic and Saints will probably pay £20m for Lookman. I rate Lookman very highly but he hasn't moved on to where he should be this season and while I would hate for him to be sold ahead of Walcott and Bolasie, Ideally we'll sell all three of them and bring in either Hirving Lozano or David Neres.

We should also bring in some decent money from our homegrown players with Dowell (10 or £12m to Sheffield United maybe?!) plus Pennington and Connolly, both of whom are worth 4 to £6m in today's market. Jonjoe Kenny's name in the report is a surprise. Then again, Zouma deputising for Coleman at RB against Spurs gave me the impression that Silva isn't sure about Kenny.

Kunal Desai
19 Posted 19/05/2019 at 10:37:49
Good luck with shipping 15. Alot of those freeloaders won't budge from those silly salaries they have managed to get and they are probably not interested in playing much football either. Probably expect 3 or 4 to leave permanently and a couple on loan again. Getting rid of a bloated squad with take a few more windows.
Dave Williams
20 Posted 19/05/2019 at 10:54:33
So Kenwright gets hammered in the past for not supporting his manager with transfer funds then gets hammered again when he does!

The responsibility for the waste of money lies with the manager and director of football, ie, Koeman, Walsh and Allardyce. It takes me back to the late eighties when we wasted all of the Lineker money on Cottee, Nevin, Beagrie etc and the only difference is this time we have a wealthy owner who can withstand the outlay.

In fairness, the more recent regime has also bought players who have increased in value: Pickford, Vlasic, Lookman, Gueye, Calvert-Lewin, Digne and, as mentioned above, we have a few young players who will generate a few million if sold.

I would keep Kenny – he can hold his own in the first team and has scope to improve still. We all know 90% of who must go and we will have to keep Sandro and see if he can be coached unless someone offers to take him. Tosun is ok but is not that good at anything in particular and I would keep Lookman if he is happy to stay. He always gives me the impression of not really being happy here and whether that is a lack of first-team football or he just doesn't like being on Merseyside, I don't know.

Schneiderlin must stay if Gomes doesn't and if Gueye leaves that means we have two central midfielders to find plus a striker. It's going to be an interesting summer.

Derek Thomas
21 Posted 19/05/2019 at 10:57:33
Everton Cleanout; hardly a headline of Watergate proportions.

The Daily Mail; A newspaper produced by officeboys for officeboys - Lord Cecil.

(For 'officeboy' think a less mature, less intelligent version of Pike from Dad's Army. )

Terry Downes
22 Posted 19/05/2019 at 11:03:16
Let Kenny go, get what we can for him and bring Holgate back as cover for Seamus or the centre-halves?
Tony Hill
23 Posted 19/05/2019 at 11:12:37
Some good comments from Lewis Gibson in one of the Newcastle papers about the effect on the youngsters of Moshiri and Kenwright being in attendance and coming into the dressing-room before their Cup Final. Credit where due.

He sounds like he's got his head screwed on, that young man. Slowly, a culture is being built which, we can hope, will mean that fat contracts for half-arsed piss-takers can be avoided.

David Hallwood
24 Posted 19/05/2019 at 11:50:14
Nice one Jay(#4) and Derek(#21), file under, it's in the Daily Mail so it must be true
Brian Harrison
25 Posted 19/05/2019 at 11:55:21
Everton's approach to the transfer market since Moshiri has come on board is the equivalent of someone being told that they have 60 seconds to put as much in their trolley in a supermarket. So we ended up with no coherent plan as to how we wanted to build a side, no philosophy just get as many in as possible and we will sort things out after we have bought them all.

So we are now in a position were our squad size and wage bill are of mammoth proportions, and just to underline how bad our transfer policy was. Practically none of the players bought and loaned out apart from Vlasic are wanted by the clubs they were loaned too. So unless we give them all a free transfer then we will have all these players returning to Finch Farm this summer. The manager doesn't want them there and these players don't want to be there, so you can imagine the kind of negative atmosphere these returning players will create.

Also because of this stupid loan system both in and out, will probably come back to hurt us. Gomes off to Spurs and the biggest loss Zouma back at Chelsea. So yet another summer of rebuilding to take place. Where if we had done our business properly and bought both these players then the improvement that we have seen over the past few months could have continued.

Also both these players could have been bought rather than loaned, so now Silva with his coaching has showed Chelsea what an asset Zouma is and again the same is true with Gomes we have opened up other possibilities to him that werent there last summer.

Martin Mason
26 Posted 19/05/2019 at 15:03:36
Tom @9, I reckon you are totally deluded if you think you know and understand how things really happen at Goodison. I reckon you know exactly the same and probably less than the vast majority of fans.

Any or all of these players who need to be cleared out now could also have been successful buys; every buy is a risk and most fail. The concept that there is somebody at the club responsible for deliberately signing a pile of duffers is beyond any belief.

Buys are especially risky when you're struggling and underfunded like we were when we made them.

David Pearl
27 Posted 19/05/2019 at 15:40:23
Brian, you are of course correct at the big plan our board had to buy, buy, buy. However, think it's the other way around with the loan players we have. Sandro and Mirallas I doubt will be wanted and we could be stuck with them till the contracts run down and they leave on a free. What lives they must live.

On the other hand, Vlasic, Onyekuru, Bolasie, Holgate and the youngsters have done well enough to be wanted back to the clubs that loaned them, along with Dowell.

I think Silva has to make his mind up quicker next season on who goes out on loan because Davies, Holgate, Dowell and Lookman could've done with going out sooner it's been a bit of a waste. Lookman looks a miserable spoilt kid – hardly looks like breaking a smile but retains the hope of most of us.

With the appointment of Brands, l think Moshiri had made his best choice since coming into the club. Spurs didn't buy any new players for 18 months allowing the players Pochettino had to grow and be coached. Hopefully we won't be recruiting large numbers this summer. Just quality. I know there are discussions on here about what strikers to buy.

Is Rondon good enough? Well he'd be an improvement that's for sure... and has a buy out clause in his contract for under £20M. If we don't get Gomes, I'd be looking at Tielemans who was loaned to Leicester.

Len Hawkins
28 Posted 19/05/2019 at 16:12:16
Brian #24 Imagine the Everton Board on a supermarket sweep instead of thinking it through and staying on the wines and spirits aisle and filling the trolley with the most expensive bottles they can find they'd be on the bin bags and cleaning products aisle.
Tony Hill
29 Posted 19/05/2019 at 16:37:54
I recall Bill defiantly telling us at the shareholders event last year that the signings of Rooney, Klaassen and Ramirez were all sound and that the latter two would be playing with us in the season just gone. Or words to that effect.

We have historically granted foolish contracts in length and salary to Niasse, Mirallas and Williams (at least).

I accept that no transfer business is scientific but our current overloaded, unbalanced squad is the result of sloppiness and has left Brands with a major task before we can regroup.

There is more than enough room for someone or some persons to take responsibility, though that won't happen.

Drew O'Neall
30 Posted 19/05/2019 at 16:45:00
Can’t we just flog these players auction style, with a low or zero reserve like you would on eBay.

Send out comm’s to all Premier League chairmen and selected European chairmen stating that players will be offered with low reserve and the highest bidder wins.

Everyone is invited to attend a SINGLE auction event involving ALL players in sequence and the successful parties will be invited to discuss terms with the player. If they are not successful the next highest bidder is invited and so on.

We might sell players for less than we had hoped but we will also get an audience for the auction of some players for whom we might never receive an offer if left to the market.

Mike Gaynes
31 Posted 19/05/2019 at 16:49:04
Sam and Mike (#12 and #13), to be fair Keane wasn't a turnaround coaching project. He played most of last season on a massively infected foot, which wasn't revealed until after the season. Not that he isn't a better player now than he was at Burnley, but his "turnaround" this season was mostly just getting healthy.

Brian #24, how do you know Zouma and Gomes "could have been bought rather than loaned"? Got inside information? My impression was that neither player was made available for sale, with good reason it turned out.

Ray Smith
32 Posted 19/05/2019 at 16:52:47
My grandson who lives in Ankara and supports Besiktas, says that they haven't decided whether or not to buy Tosun or take him on loan deal. I hope it's the former, despite the huge loss we will inevitably suffer. Big Sam and Steve Walsh paid £27m for him. Any bets on more than £15m if they buy?

Although not news as such, Galatasary have already agreed a one-year loan deal for Onyekuru. At least we may yet see him in an Everton shirt, eventually.

Gary Russell
33 Posted 19/05/2019 at 17:38:49
Schneiderlin has a few 'OK' games and some are over the moon. I cannot wait to see the back of him. At 29, we have had shocking value for money. The best news for me over the summer, would be his sale. He has annoyed the crap out of me most games he's played. Awful buy with an even worse attitude. Second best news would be Walcott gone, a guy I see with no bottle, who never tackles or puts his body on the line. For me, Marco's continual playing of him this season has been a black mark on his tender. The guy scores way too little, or fails to lay on scoring opportunities far too often. Arsenal laughed their flipping heads off when we agreed to buy him. He is however, one of the richest footballers on the planet. Beggars belief in a world long gone mad. Come on Brands, be ruthless.
Tom Bowers
34 Posted 19/05/2019 at 17:43:54
I didn't realise Everton still had some of these '' players '' on the books.
Yes, for sure they should be finally let go permanently !!!
The '' new'' Everton should start now but it's a pity Bainsey got old.
Ray Smith
35 Posted 19/05/2019 at 18:03:21
Tom 35

It’s quite a list isn’t it.
Williams released
Martina
Ramirez
Vlasic
Garbutt
Mirallas
Galloway
Dowell
Besic
Niasse
Bolasie
McCarthy
Stekelenburg (model pro)

Should be sold but probably for half of what we paid
Schneiderlin
Walcott
Tosun

Sold for a profit
Lookman (reluctantly imo)

Baines deserves another year
Jags dependent on Zouma situation retain for another year, if not he should be allowed to go for a smallish fee, he deserves it. Another model pro.

I’ve probably missed one or two, but regrettably quite a few will still be with us, on silly money and long contracts.

Can you see Daniel Levy conducting business like we did with the above?
No way and look where they are now.
Perhaps we will catch them up, but not for several years.

Keith Dempsey
36 Posted 19/05/2019 at 18:09:30
I'm sure we are not the only club whose signings don't always hit the ground running. Even F0ergie had his failures over the years and our neighbours have had long list of failures but, for whatever reason, they have been able to recoup the money (Benteke and Andy Carroll, for example).
Karl Masters
37 Posted 19/05/2019 at 19:23:43
As we have joked at work with my West Ham and Man Utd supporting colleagues, with all 3 of our teams supposed to be “having a massive clearout” this Summer there’s gonna be a hell of a lot of “dead wood” for sale!

A conservative estimate across the three squads was 40 players we’d like to see the back of.

Realistically, all clubs have to wind in their purchases of overrated foreign imports on crazy money.

Jay Harris
38 Posted 19/05/2019 at 20:02:33
Ray #35,
I do seem to remember Spurs wasting a lot of money after the Bale windfall and buying quite a few duds.

As with youth players you cant integrate a shedload of new faces into a team and expect an instant improvement.

Get the team stable and then graually improve the quality.

That now seems to be the plan thankfully.

Tony Abrahams
39 Posted 19/05/2019 at 20:05:59
Over on another thread I’ve been reading about the Portuguese having a thing called suades (not sure if that is the correct spelling) and think this is what has maybe happened to Sandro?

I think he’s got ability, and although it would surprise me if he came back to Everton, then it certainly wouldn’t disappoint me because I think he could do well under Marco Silva?

Steavey Buckley
40 Posted 19/05/2019 at 20:19:04
It will be difficult to move players on, who are surplus to requirements, because they are on contracts that other clubs will not match. Sandro is an example of this situation, who will probably remain with Everton until his contract runs out. But Everton should be looking at the contracts of Keane and Pickford because they don't want them to run down their contracts and leave for free or at a bargain price such as when Barkley left.
Denis Richardson
41 Posted 19/05/2019 at 21:59:07
Hardly news. Most of the players were on 'the list' 12 months ago but we couldn't shift them as no one wanted them - doubt much would have changed 12 months later given their still on massive contracts.

Only silver lining is another year down a couple more are at the end of their contracts, like Williams. Can't see past more loans for most of these in the coming year.

Liam Reilly
42 Posted 19/05/2019 at 22:02:20
Silvas number 2 is also leaving if reports are to be true.

Why not encourage Tim Cahill to come back. He's knowledgeable and articulate on sky and would command respect in the dressing room, especially when things are going South.

Perhaps he could exorcise the demons that prevent us competing against the reds although the last two games showed some improvement.

Colin Metcalfe
43 Posted 19/05/2019 at 22:43:08
No mention of Pickford ? Surely a top keeper should be first on the list to buy
Eddie Dunn
44 Posted 19/05/2019 at 22:54:45
Years of poor recruitment and a need to offer very good terms to offset a lack of CL football have resulted in a substantial overspend on fees and wages.
Just one of those things if you need money to compensate players for a n unliklihood of winning anything.
We need to get on with it.
Paul Birmingham
45 Posted 19/05/2019 at 23:50:42
It looks like our professional players at end of contract or not good enough and how do we manage retention policy, is now top of the agenda, for the board.

Recycling the ball in play which generally for part of this season we were poor at, must now be default standard, at the club administration levels. In context doing the job.

To get these players off the books will take a miracle, but hopefully a sign of more reality and business management at EFC.

The costs of failure is immense, and I won’t be doing the calculations but per annum x per contract year, the burden to the club is immense.

Factor in our success ration, the last 30 years, and it’s another story for the Sages, to explain.

How can Everton thrive, and surely now the coin has dropped at GP and FF, about maintaining bench mark standards, in managing, EFC?

Ray Smith
46 Posted 20/05/2019 at 01:23:29
Jay 38

You're right in what you say.

Another example of bringing in 11 or 12 players in, in one big hit, was Fulham and look where that got them!

Steve Ferns
47 Posted 20/05/2019 at 09:37:29
The Transfer Rumour tracker is an interesting new addition to the ToffeeWeb site. It links to the individual rumours, so clearly not an advert. Care to explain how you grade the rumours, Lyndon or Michael?
Michael Nisbet
48 Posted 20/05/2019 at 09:39:54
I love that transfer rumour tracker. It used to appear in transfer windows a few years back. Glad to see its return.
Matt Traynor
49 Posted 20/05/2019 at 11:24:20
Drew #30, if only it were that easy. Players these days are on mega wages, and the value of those contracts is what is the stumbling block in moving people on.

Years ago clubs were ruthless with players, which is why clauses like "loyalty bonus" and testimonials were created. Many footballers back in the day used to have to get a "proper job" after playing. I'm still mortified that when I did my flying training at RAF Woodvale in the 1980s, the security guard was a certain Gordon West.

These days you can be a millionaire without kicking a ball for the first team. Yet many of these archaic loyalty bonuses still remain. Agents, as ever, are the root of the problem. Nothing will change. Gravy train.

Gerard McKean
50 Posted 20/05/2019 at 16:33:54
Martin #26, I don't think Tom #9 or Don #5 are saying that there is "somebody at the club responsible for deliberately signing a pile of duffers", but rather we are suffering the legacy of duffers having been in charge of transfers until Brands came along.

Don, are you as amused as I am that every time you post, as sure as night follows day, the Terrys and Mikes are on your case? Our club is rife with nepotism and that's something that can only start at the top. Their unimaginative automatic reflex responses to you are the equivalent of the being called a bitter blue by the RS whenever we make a justifiable criticism of their team/club.

Martin Mason
51 Posted 20/05/2019 at 22:03:03
Gerard, like Don's comments there isn't any evidence to support your statements. You claim "nepotism" but what real evidence is there for that?

The arrival of Brands also doesn't mean that the people who handled our transfers pre-Brands were in any way incompetent. Brands is top of his profession and came when we had purchasing power and sorted finances in place. Previous buys were made when we were underfunded and were willing to take risk on purchases, when we were desperate for survival.

Like Don, I'd say that you have no understanding of how the club has worked then and now only what myths you believe. Don deserves a bit of criticism for what he says, especially the delusion that he does understand it and knows better than the great unwashed. Most fans understand the issues and, who knows, possibly a lot better than you and Don do.

Andy Crooks
52 Posted 20/05/2019 at 22:38:38
Martin, I imagine that Gerard could supply plenty of evidence. However, this site, in fairness to Michael and Lyndon is not the place for it. I have spoken to Gerard and believe he is a man of integrity.
Paul Tran
53 Posted 20/05/2019 at 22:41:32
Might it be a bit left-field to suggest that, now that the club is a bit more stable with a functioning method of play, these 'unsellable', underperforming players may take a turn for the better?

That's the only explanation I have for Schneiderlin's return to form. Might it work the same for others?

Terry White
54 Posted 20/05/2019 at 22:48:34
Gerard (#50), as you know, I will always defend you and Don having the right to say what you want on this site. And if you left it at "I blame Bill Kenwright for all that is bad at Everton Football Club", or "I don't like Denise Barrett-Baxendale" then all would be right with the world. You are both entitled to your opinions. and I do not doubt that you see yourselves as being fans of our club just as I do.

But it is the foul-mouthed way in which Don personally attacks Mr Kenwright in his posts that upsets me. Go back and read the second paragraph of #5 in this thread. His first paragraph actually contains "justifiable" truths (using your word) and if he had left it at that, fair dos. Do you think there is anything that justifies the turn on Mr Kenwright yet again? All of Don's posts end up with an attack on Mr Kenwright, the Chairman of the club we support, even when there is little in the basic theme of the thread to warrant comment being made about him at all. As Mike pointed out (#7) it does seem to be a compulsion.

Martin (#51) has taken issue with you accusing the club of "nepotism" without "evidence". I have questioned you before about a lack of stating any evidence when you are critical of our CEO – criticisms that strike me, at least, as being more personal than being based in any solid foundation of facts. And does Don know for an actual fact that Mr Kenwright is "wealthy beyond his wildest dreams", has Don seen his financial statement or tax returns, perhaps? If not, then he is speculating in a way just to suit his own motives.

"Justifiable" criticisms are part of being a fan. "Justifiable" responses that question the initial post and the motives behind it are also part of being a fan. You and Don have your opinions; I have mine. And as long as there are people on TW who feel the need to express their personal views in such a way that offends my sense of decency, then I will continue to rebut them.
.

Gavin Johnson
55 Posted 21/05/2019 at 04:56:52
Leroy Fer has just been released by Swansea. Free transfer anyone??

That said, it's not a great indictment that Swansea have let him go. I remember that I was gutted when our deal fell through for him back in Feb 2013.

Gavin Johnson
56 Posted 21/05/2019 at 05:12:43
Wilfried Bony has also been released. I'd actually take a look at him if he was willing to have a trial and play some pre season games. He could be a great free transfer if he found his shooting boots. He's another one who doesn't have a great burst of pace though.
Alan J Thompson
57 Posted 21/05/2019 at 07:47:02
Looking at Ray's(#35) list; does anybody think that there may be a few surprises who might not have gone out on loan or are considered likely to be at least "squad" standard or better, the likes of Davies, Holgate, Kenny? My fear is that reducing the wage bill will take priority, Administration overruling Football Dept, and we may reduce it to those who are first choice to play backed up only by those we can't lose until their contracts run down, Peter paying for Paul?
Kevin Prytherch
58 Posted 21/05/2019 at 10:42:55
Out of Rays list, I’d like to see Dowell, Vlasic and Lookman stay for at least another year.

Out of the returning loanees, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Williams, Holgate and maybe even Connolly around the first team squad, whereas I’d like to see Dowell around it.

I feel that Robinson will be sent on loan again if Baines gets his year extension, I feel we’ve probably seen the last of Pennington and I’m concerned that Baningime has flopped so much at Wigan - don’t know whether we’ll try again with a loan for him or let him go.

In terms of wages potentially saved... (courtesy of spotrac - I know the Sandro one is disputed)
Walcott 100k
Tosun 60k
Stek 30k
Schneiderlin 100k
Niasse 55k
McCarthy 50k
Bolasie 80k
Mirallas 70k
Williams 70k
Sandro 60k
Martina 35k
Besic 30k
Garbutt 28k
Tarshaj 15k

Over £780k per week if we manage to shift them all, that doesn’t count the reduced wages that Jagielka (50k) and Baines (70k) will be on.

We’ll be looking at around a £40million saving per year!!

Tony Abrahams
59 Posted 21/05/2019 at 19:22:38
Martin@51, the number of ex-players on the coaching staff, and a first-team coach, that has outlived 3 managers, and also a caretaker, definitely looks like a bit of nepotism to me mate. Perhaps if Silva stays long enough then this might change?

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