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Vlasic set to stay in Moscow

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Nikola Vlasic could get the permanent move from Everton to CSKA Moscow that he has been seeking based on a report in Russia.

Journalist Vanya Karpov has tweeted that the Blues (amusingly, he cites Alisher Usmanov as the Everton "owner" who sanctioned the deal) have agreed to sell the Croatian for €16m.

Vlasic spent this past season on loan with CSKA and had a highly successful spell with them. His £8m move to Goodison from Hajduk Split was less successful and the prospects of him wanting to come back to Everton this summer seem slim.

Other reports in Moscow suggest that talks are still ongoing between the two clubs and that nothing has yet been decided.

Original Source: @OnooQ  

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Martin Nicholls
1 Posted 21/05/2019 at 19:15:27
Hope this guy is a credible journalist - Usmanov our owner!!
Mike Gaynes
2 Posted 21/05/2019 at 19:24:14
I will be disappointed to see us give up on a 21-year-old attacking midfielder with skills. This is the kind of player we should be looking for, not shipping out.

5 goals, 5 assists in the league, and two tremendously impressive performances against Real Madrid in the CL.

Nonetheless, seems inevitable. We only used him on the wing, where he doesn't belong. He never got a real chance with us and it appears he never will.

Ray Said
3 Posted 21/05/2019 at 19:29:48
Well said, Mike (2). He looked top notch against R Madrid. Never played in his right position for us (like Lookman, I see him as a central attacking midfield player) and a shame to see him go if he does.
David Pearl
4 Posted 21/05/2019 at 19:30:40
I heard a rumour that the chairman of CSKA, Dolly Parton had sanctioned a move for up to €12m. Still represents a small profit, not accounting for wages. I’d like to see him given a chance over here but only ‘just in case’ as the player I saw was absolute shite. Okay Sandro was the worst but Vlasic not much better. Who knows, same with Henry. We do need sales though, and a few of them. Just to make way for Bales wages when he comes on loan next season.
Steve Ferns
5 Posted 21/05/2019 at 19:36:25
I never quite took to Vlasic. He had lots of technical ability, but just seemed to be missing something. I didn't think it was his age either. I do believe that Silva saw enough of him to evaluate that he's not his type of central midfielder and he's far too slow to be a winger.
Derek Knox
6 Posted 21/05/2019 at 19:37:02
Very good and valid points Mike G, I feel that we should be hanging on to and involving players like him, but the old story is, if he doesn't want to be with us, and his mind is made up, get as much as we can.

Interesting too that Usmanov has been mentioned as being the owner, maybe Blue Bill has sold his shares to him. After all he did make a statement some time ago that he was going to step down, that has well gone over his suggested time frame. Bye Bill and Thanks!

Fran Mitchell
7 Posted 21/05/2019 at 19:37:14
Seems a real shame, because personally I feel he has shown himself to be a player with great potential.

He came into the team and looked great, great technique, great touch, but then as the Koeman reign started to go to tits, Vlasic (and every other player in the club bar none) started to falter. Then came in Allardyce and well, that was it for him.

One issue was that we had too many central players, Rooney, Siggy and Klaassen all signed for the same position, which was also Vlasic's. When h got a chance, it was out wide and he doesn't have the pace for it (neither did Siggy).

With Silva coming in, a loan seemed a solid move, especially with the bloated squad.

But if Siggy is injured or suspended (or out of form), we have nobody. Bernard maybe, but he has pretty much made the left side his iwn and developed a relationship with Digne. Vlasic would be an ideal candidate to act as back-up/competition to Siggy. He certainly seems to have more about him than Dowell.

Shame, but if the lad is happy and enjoying his football, who can blame him.

Christy Ring
8 Posted 21/05/2019 at 20:30:19
He was inconsistent when given his chance, and to be honest, his attitude left a lot to desire.
Raymond Halsall
9 Posted 21/05/2019 at 20:50:44
Okay, take the same route as Barca do and insert a buyback clause for him, Lookman, Dowell and Henry.

Get the cash in and, if they fulfil their potential, buy them back. Also a 50% sell-on clause if they don't want to come back.

Simon Smith
10 Posted 21/05/2019 at 21:51:01
I'm with Mike @2.

Young talented players shouldn't be leaving Everton FC, but it's looking increasingly likely both Vlasic and Lookman will both be going!

Jay Woods
11 Posted 21/05/2019 at 22:05:31
Russian sports press here in Latvia were recently linking him to other Russian clubs too, not just CSKA.
Paul Birmingham
12 Posted 21/05/2019 at 22:11:56
It's ironic that seemingly along with Lookman, Vlasic, may move on.

A good player, and in reflection joining a club in what was a season of turmoil.

I can't see him wanting to come back, and in the cull, this could be one of the easier transfers.

Some players, I doubt we can give away, hopefully I'll be proven wrong. Brands will have his own transfer plan, let's see what unfolds.

Drew O'Neall
13 Posted 21/05/2019 at 22:23:10
It’s a specialist position playing on our wing. You have to be, fast, skilful and productive but also have the necessary work rate and discipline off the ball or our whole system falls apart.

It would be nice to have Vlasic and Lookman as understudies but neither seems prepared to wait and learn their craft and neither possesses the athleticism or determination to do the job now.

You could line them up as successors to Sigurdsson but the player in that position has to be so incredibly productive in terms of shots and assists which, again, neither are.

Both young players are good and I don’t know where you find players with the profiles to succeed the incumbents which, on the one hand, makes me nervous but on the other, makes me very excited that, if supplemented with a first rate centre forward, we could have one of the best attacking units in Europe.

Simon Smith
14 Posted 21/05/2019 at 22:54:09
For me, I believe Lookman would be very creative in any of the three roles behind a striker; in Sigurdsson's position, he would get goals.
David Pearl
15 Posted 21/05/2019 at 23:53:45
Well, let's face it, both Vlasic, Lookman (and Onyekuru for that matter) could be anything. If it was up to me l would favour loans in the UK so they can get home experience.

I'd rather us loan Lookman to Saints or a team he can play week in week out. I'd seen him as a long-term replacement for Bernard, only hopefully more productive. I'm not keen on his face. He doesn't actually look like he wants to be here.

Vlasic I'd also prefer to be in England. Not that I'm asked of course. And then you have Sandro... who doesn't look good enough to lace Naismith's boots.

Andrew Keatley
16 Posted 22/05/2019 at 01:20:04
Agree with Ray (2) - Vlasic benefits from playing through the middle, same as Lookman. They are both players who can dribble, pass and shoot off either foot, and sadly suffered from being at the club in the same moment that we signed Rooney, Sigurdsson and Klaassen and were in managerial meltdown.

I seem to remember that Vlasic was criticised (by Allardyce publicly, but also by people on here) for not tracking his man in a particular game, and the move ended in us conceding a goal. After that he was out of favour and Moscow-bound. Seemed like a massive over-reaction.

He may well turn out to be a very good player, but his attitude seems problematic. €16m seems about right.

Alan J Thompson
17 Posted 22/05/2019 at 05:11:04
David(#14); Lookman has already demonstrated that he won't go on loan to clubs in Britain although a "Top 6" side might tempt him but those clubs tend not to take players on loan for the obvious reasons we might be finding with Gomes and Zouma.

Silva seems to have the one system which requires skillful and speedy wide players backed by attacking full backs and a third inside man, who also backs up the centre forward, making the triangle then one creative and one defensive midfielder to which the ability to track back is required. If your style of play doesn't suit that pattern then this Manager doesn't seem overly interested and might explain why we seem to be linked with so many wingers/widemen.

Andy Meighan
18 Posted 22/05/2019 at 12:09:11
Funny how most of our fans see these players (Vlasic, Lookman, Onyekuru) as special talents. Vlasic had chances and was ordinary; ditto Lookman – another who's flattered to deceive. Funny but the two of them seem to have attitude problems... maybe that's why Silva hasn't got much time for them?

I couldn't comment on Onyekuru as I know nothing about him. I see that old chestnut "Oh, he scored against Madrid" keeps cropping up. Big deal! So did every Tom Dick and Harry this season... so should we bid for most of them? Let Silva and Brands choose who is and who isn't good enough.

Bill Gienapp
19 Posted 22/05/2019 at 12:23:49
The Vlasic ship may simply have sailed, which is too bad, because he has the profile of the sort of young players we should be looking to bring in.

I do think he's arguably worth more than 16-million, and I'm skeptical CSKA Moscow can even pony up that much to begin with.

Steven Telford
20 Posted 22/05/2019 at 13:23:23
A REAL chance means a good run of games over a fair period, not an odd start and a few subbed appearances. Keane and Bernard, two examples of players that took time to settle. Especially the former, I saw people on tis forum saying we should get shut of him, their tune changed after he was given a PROPER chance. It’s a pity he was not give a real chance, and I hope Lookman does not go the same way.

Matthew Williams
21 Posted 22/05/2019 at 13:27:37
Smart move Blues... NOT.

The lad never got a chance here, oh well.

Alan J Thompson
22 Posted 22/05/2019 at 16:03:27
Andy(#18); You don't think they were chosen by professionals who have managed for quite some time and at international level and just perhaps have attitude problems having been made promises when signed and then moved on by a manager who hasn't given them a prolonged run to show what they may be able to do? What is the longest run of consecutive games for any of these three players and particularly under the present manager? I'm not sure but I think that for at least two of them and may be all three the answer would be zero.
Tom Bowers
23 Posted 22/05/2019 at 16:27:35
Is it the manager, the coaching or just that many signings at Everton over the last ten years have been plain bad scouting.

Vlasic was a lad who had a good showing against Everton in the Europa league and was then signed. After that, nothing !

The club always seems to have a plethora of misfits who are not favored on game days or out on loan so why are they still here.

Maybe most other teams don't feel paying a transfer fee as they really rate the players at a very low level.

A Summer clear out is necessary if this club is to reach an acceptable status once again.

One must feel that Silva has had all his reports on these players and has done his homework so let's see some action.

John Raftery
24 Posted 22/05/2019 at 16:34:43
A young player suddenly found himself in a foreign country, speaking a different language, in a much tougher league, at a club with a huge, unbalanced squad and without a clear playing system. If those weren’t enough obstacles to make his life difficult the club had three managers in his first season. Little wonder he struggled to settle.

I saw nothing wrong with his attitude on the pitch despite his usually being played out of position. Equally it would be surprising if he felt there was much to be gained by returning to a club where at best he would be on the bench.

Alan J Thompson
25 Posted 22/05/2019 at 17:37:40
Tom(#23); I assume, with regard to Vlasic, you mean nothing at Everton as he has gone to CSKA where he has played in the Champions League and by some reports done rather well and been selected by his country who were World Cup finalists. The playing staff list may need pruning but care must be taken that the baby isn't thrown out with the bath water.
Jack Convery
26 Posted 22/05/2019 at 22:22:32
Maybe it's a sweetener for someone bigger and better. Maybe Usmanov is doing a favour for a mate. Maybe Usmanov IS our owner and Moshiri is a front man – nothing in this world of money, money money and more money surprises me. Usmanov steel for the stadium – well, it won't be made in Scunthorpe, will it?
Lee Brownlie
27 Posted 23/05/2019 at 09:17:25

There are reasons he wasn't given many runouts here. the main one being he didn't particularly 'shine'. Okay, so maybe neither did the team, those times, but you take your opportunities where and when you can... and it's more than just one Everton manager thinks they didn't see enough in him.

Bye, then.

Justin Doone
28 Posted 23/05/2019 at 14:27:40
Vlasic is good enough for the Premier League. As long as he's willing to work hard like Bernard and Richarlison do, then both he and Lookman should be fighting for back-up ahead of Walcott.

Sadly that's down to them as individuals and neither may want that fight if given easier options at other clubs.

The last few years of development are often around 22/23, so the next few years are important to them. If they should go, hopefully another loan or buy-back clauses are included as well as sell on % etc.

No idea how Naismith clause still applies to Norwich but I like it.

Kevin Prytherch
29 Posted 23/05/2019 at 14:54:50
The issue with wingers stems from our other personnel. Someone on a different thread compared Bernard to Salah and Sterling in terms of goals and assists.

Salah and Sterling play as part of an attacking 3 with 3 more disciplined midfielders behind them, that means they are more free to be out and out wingers (or inside forwards) without as much defensive responsibility.

We have Sigurdsson who, for all his undoubted hard work, often plays that high up the pitch that he is a second striker, that means that our wide players have to compensate defensively or our midfield is overrun (see bad patch in the middle of the season).

I feel Lookman and Vlasic may prosper more in a setup akin to Liverpool or Man City, but lack the defensive nous in our current setup.

Interestingly, if Sigurdsson was injured or sold and we played with 3 midfielders instead of 2 & a number 10, they might flourish here.

Steve Ferns (I think) often talked about Silva preferring a holding midfielder and 2 midfielders in front of them, I think both would shine in this type of formation, as would Tom Davies as one of the 2.

Interesting conundrum, do we change our setup and potentially ditch on

Kevin Prytherch
30 Posted 23/05/2019 at 14:56:30
Interesting conundrum, do we change our setup and ditch one of our main sources of goals and assists (Sigurdsson) to suit players who have the “potential” to make us better?
Kase Chow
31 Posted 23/05/2019 at 20:49:44
Kevin #30,

We don't

Siggy is proven whilst those are maybes. I don't want yet another transition season – I want to kick on.

Vijay Nair
32 Posted 19/06/2019 at 12:33:00
Looks like this is now confirmed on CSKA's official site:

5 year contract. No mention of the fee though...

Mark Murphy
33 Posted 19/06/2019 at 21:06:48
“In Sigurdsson's position, he would get goals.”

Thing is, in Sigurdsson's position, he DID get goals!
We seem to take Siggy for granted.

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