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Everton favourites to sign Welbeck

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Everton are reportedly leading a clutch of clubs looking to sign out-of-favour Danny Welbeck from Arsenal this summer.

The striker will be out of contract next month and the Blues have been joined by West Ham United, Newcastle United, Crystal Palace and Wolverhampton Wanderers in showing interest in signing him according to the Evening Standard.

A former England international, Welbeck underwent ankle surgery last year and recently returned to behind-closed-doors action but is unlikely to be given a new deal at The Emirates as Unai Emery continues his attempts to improve his squad.

The report claims that Everton would be willing to improve the 28-year-old's current £100,000-a-week salary with Arsenal but the player is said to favour a move to a club that can offer Champions League football which would preclude a transfer to any of those clubs currently linked with him in the latest speculation.

Everton are in the hunt for striking reinforcements and could yet look to sell either or both of Cenk Tosun and Oumar Niasse this summer.

Original Source: Evening Standard  


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Simon R Smith
1 Posted 24/05/2019 at 16:18:14
And silly season starts with a bang!

NO, NO AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THRICE NO!!!

Peter Thistle
2 Posted 24/05/2019 at 16:20:44
He could discuss how to become even more shit with Walcott. Good times.
Jay Harris
3 Posted 24/05/2019 at 16:26:11
He is welcome to join Walcott albeit at another club.

I thought we had stopped becoming a retirement home for top six rejects especially those that are always in the treatment room.

I sincerely hope this one has no legs (pardon the pun).

Derek Knox
4 Posted 24/05/2019 at 16:47:59
Agree with the previous posts, firstly I hope it is just a speculative punt to test the water. Secondly, as has been mentioned he is a Treatment Room Regular. Thirdly and more importantly he is not a regular enough scorer anyway, when fit. Fourthly is his age, he doesn't fit the criteria. Fifth if it wasn't already obvious we don't want him. Haven't we learnt anything from signing Walcott?
Phil Malone Jnr
5 Posted 24/05/2019 at 16:50:31
HOW CAN YOU LADS SAY NO TO THIS!! HE'S A FULL ENGLAND INTERNATIONAL!!

Just joking... he's shite.

Mike Allison
6 Posted 24/05/2019 at 16:56:37
Welbeck is not shite. He’s absolutely class.

And injured all the time.

Trevor Powell
7 Posted 24/05/2019 at 17:01:31
We must be looking a better than a crocked has-been, never-was. His scoring record isn't that good. If we had no money to spend at all, I'd rather stick with an enthusiastic Calvert-Lewin than a sick-note, over-inflated ego like Welbeck!

If he was that good, Arsenal would have extended his contract. What sensible Champions League side are going to offer him a contract unless Celtic fancy a punt? — or FK Partizani Tirana!

Fran Mitchell
8 Posted 24/05/2019 at 17:13:48
He is a high quality player.

But...

A crock. With high wages. And 28 years old.

I call this Bull.

Sam Hoare
9 Posted 24/05/2019 at 17:50:55
Not an obvious fit. But. Perhaps if the contract was a pay as you play type one that meant he’d only cost if contributing there could be some value there.

28 is not exactly washed up. And I’ve always thought he looks a decent enough player when fit. 16 goals for England in 42 matches shows he can score at highest level.

Like I said, he’d not be one of my top picks and I’d certainly be against offering him a lucrative weekly contract but perhaps there’s a deal that could be worked out that would suit both parties? Mainly I suspect this is rubbish planted by his agent to get other parties sniffing.


Iain Johnston
10 Posted 24/05/2019 at 17:55:51
Have we been linked with Nasri or Gary Cahill yet? I like to do my bullshit filing all at once.
Derek Knox
11 Posted 24/05/2019 at 17:57:16
Iain @ 9, don't panic there's still plenty of time! :-)
Bill Watson
12 Posted 24/05/2019 at 18:16:27
It's a No from me! lol
Kieran Kinsella
13 Posted 24/05/2019 at 18:19:55
In the Kenwright era, this was the kind of par for the course rumor. "Michael Owen is available on a free after 4 years of being injured. Everton in driving seat." Cue, phantom bid from Kenwright for 10 quid a week plus bonuses.

I actually like Welbeck as a player but with his injury record, and at 28, I said "No, thank you." Moreover, even before injuries struck, he was very much of the Calvert-Lewin mould – works hard, smart with the ball, lots of assists but a poor scoring record.

Since we're seemingly unhappy with Calvert-Lewin based on goals, then why would we sign a similar, older, more injury prone, and far better paid player to compete for the role of getting ridiculed by ToffeeWebers each for for "not scoring in a brotherl", "not hitting a barn door" etc??

Mark Murphy
14 Posted 24/05/2019 at 18:20:22
“...but the player favours a move to a Champions League club which would preclude a move to any of those clubs currently linked with him.”

Celtic then?? Fucking deluded twat!

Si Smith
15 Posted 24/05/2019 at 18:45:32
I can see I may end up being a minority of 1 here, but I believe Welbeck is a very good player, hes injury prone to say the least, but in all fairness his last injury was a broken ankle, its not like he can do much about that!

I myself believe he will add something to our first team, he can hold up play, score goals, play wide, and he is quick.

Taking a gamble could very well pay off, plus he is on a free, if he comes in for Walcot its a no brainer, he takes his wages, and we get a fee which can go towards Silvas transfer kitty.

Robert Leigh
16 Posted 24/05/2019 at 18:57:04
I’m thoroughly enjoying the busy transfer rumours, something I put on the questionnaire we were sent.

I hope he gets back to playing as he was always nice to watch, but hope it isn’t for us unless he’s replacing Tosun as 2nd/3rd choice and on a pay as you play deal.

Tom Bowers
17 Posted 24/05/2019 at 19:01:40
I've always liked Welbeck but his injury problems have held him back and that's not likely to improve with him being 28.

Younger players can usually get over injuries quicker so why would Everton pay big wages to a player who cannot play a lot of games.

Anyway, rumours will abound so let's not assume anything just yet.

Drew O'Neall
18 Posted 24/05/2019 at 19:20:37
Good responses lads. He’s wank. We’ve come so far. We’d have been delighted by a Wellbeck a few years ago.. mind you he was less wank a few years ago.
John Pierce
19 Posted 24/05/2019 at 19:24:23
Welbeck is fundamentally crap, but has very good movement and mobility, so I can see why there might be link there and a fit with Silva's style of play.

But there's no way he will after several bad injuries stand up to the rigours of a Premier League campaign, like Strootman, crackers for knees. Not a good choice.

Adam Carey
20 Posted 24/05/2019 at 19:54:36
I thought it was a good joke until the line about improving his wages! Nice one lads...
David Hallwood
21 Posted 24/05/2019 at 20:13:45
Silva is also doing the Iberian version of gegenpressing, so the last thing he needs are 2 fucked footballers, that won't be able to keep the pace up.

This is why he likes Calvert-Lewin; young and full of running.

Rumour; file it in that file labeled complete bollocks, it's getting a bit crowded in there and we're still in May

Andrew Keatley
22 Posted 24/05/2019 at 20:20:39
I like Welbeck, but if we’re going to take a risk on someone who has missed such large chunks of football through injury then the upside would need to be much bigger than his ability probably allows.

Or the weekly wage would need to be much lower. Surely he should go out on loan to play games and prove his long-term fitness. A loan with a locked-in transfer price should he come good might suit all parties - whether it is us or one of the other clubs vying for him. I’d like to see him back healthy and playing well - very tidy footballer.

Tony Abrahams
23 Posted 24/05/2019 at 20:30:41
He's had a very bad injury, but I don't think there are many quicker players out there so it wouldn't surprise me If we signed Danny Welbeck.

I actually predicted this about three months ago, but never thought to put a bet on it though, so I'll definitely be kicking myself if he signs for Everton!

Joe O'Brien
24 Posted 24/05/2019 at 20:38:11
God no...
Brian Williams
25 Posted 24/05/2019 at 20:38:43
I'm filing this one under CAUBIBLJ.
Neil Wood
26 Posted 24/05/2019 at 20:50:23
Looking at this thread I'm seemingly one of the only positive ones about this rumour.

Free. Still loads to offer and quick as a post balti shit.

He's struggled with injuries, I get that, but he will score a boat load in our set up. I would be extremely happy if we got him.

Craig Walker
27 Posted 24/05/2019 at 20:55:59
I'd have Sturridge over Welbeck.
John Hammond
28 Posted 24/05/2019 at 21:03:56
We're willing to improve Wellbeck's £100k-a-week salary? Yeah right. Utter nonsense.

12 years as a premier player and he's made just over 200 appearances. He'll spend more time on James McCarthy's soon to be vacant treatment table than he will on the pitch.

Kenny Smith
29 Posted 24/05/2019 at 21:04:02
Have we not learnt anything from buying players so-called big clubs think are finished.

Welbeck and Walcott couldn't start for a poor Arsenal side yet 2 years on they're okay for us?

We should be looking for progressive players with a sell on not shite that no one else wants. And at £100k + a week you must be fuckin' joking cos you'll get 10 games a season out of him tops.

Dave Williams
30 Posted 24/05/2019 at 21:05:39
Now why does a 28-year-old injury prone international centre forward ring a bell.... Andy Gray!! Well he didn't do too badly scoring goals and teaching a very promising but raw youngster how to really play as a striker??

In principle it could work but we surely can't load our over- inflated wage bill by £100k plus per week on someone who is a huge risk? Pay to play is a different matter.

Steve Hogan
31 Posted 24/05/2019 at 21:22:32
People on here banging on about 'pay to play' contracts ffs, they only exist in the mind of the gullible.

Do you think any self respecting agent is going to turn around and say to his client, 'I've got you a great deal son', it £120k a week, but that's only if you stay fit and play 35 games.

Yeah right, not whilst there's gobshite clubs willing to pay him £80k a week guaranteed over four years.

Now who mentioned Uncle Bill... ?

Andy Meighan
32 Posted 24/05/2019 at 21:36:48
Dave @30,

Well one thing... Gray was a far better player than this crock. And secondly, Gray would throw his head in a cement mixer if he thought there was a goal on the end of it.

Welbeck gets a twisted sock and is out for a month. And thirdly, it was a lifetime ago when we signed Gray and what a signing he was but the game has moved on considerably since then.

I just hope this is a rumour because, if we are looking to challenge the top 6, then there's far better players than him out there.

Paul Birmingham
33 Posted 24/05/2019 at 21:38:21
Seriously this can’t be true. He’s barely played at Arsenal.

Let’s hope this is media BS.

Si Cooper
34 Posted 24/05/2019 at 21:53:38
I agree with Craig at 27. Have the people who rate him actually looked at his goal-scoring record?

For me, Welbeck is one who looks like a player but who has never actually produced much.

Mike Gaynes
35 Posted 24/05/2019 at 21:57:49
Yes, Welbeck's only 28. But he has scored exactly 16 league goals TOTAL in the past five seasons.

For his career, he has consistently averaged a goal every 265 minutes. That's about the same as Walcott (and Calvert-Lewin).

He's Walcott II – same kind of player, same lack of productivity, just 16 months younger and with a worse injury record.

And he'd want a raise from £100,000/week???

No, thank you. Not even on a free.

Ian Bennett
36 Posted 24/05/2019 at 22:02:10
Let him retire elsewhere. Give me hungry, up-and-coming players that want it.
Neil Wood
37 Posted 24/05/2019 at 22:05:38
Mike, I will have a bottle of red with you that, if he comes, you would have changed your mind by Christmas?
Mike Gaynes
38 Posted 24/05/2019 at 22:09:09
Neil, that's a deal, but if you're still predicting by then that he'll score a "boat load" it'll take more than one bottle to drown all those sorrows.
Neil Wood
39 Posted 24/05/2019 at 22:10:47
Ha... your a man of your word; I'm sure, if you have genuinely changed your opinion, then you would say so.

That is of course if he comes. If not, I will have to think of another red wine wager!

Tom Dodds
40 Posted 24/05/2019 at 22:26:39
I agree with all the above...

Except any loon that would think it a great idea!

Tommy Surgenor
41 Posted 24/05/2019 at 22:31:47
I take it the papers don’t believe anything Brands says? He was very clear about the profile of player we would be interested in. Next thing, everyone we are linked with thus far have been anything but that profile.
Andy Crooks
42 Posted 24/05/2019 at 22:46:05
Do we take a gamble on young players or injury prone players? That is the market we are in. There is no middle ground here. He is fit and a bargain or out for six months at a time.

May as well get off the fence. I trust Brands, so if we got him I would be happy.

Tony Hill
43 Posted 24/05/2019 at 22:56:22
He's one of those players who I have a hunch might turn to gold, despite not much recent evidence in his favour. I think he's been linked with us too long for it to be newspaper tosh. No pressure on him at our place, not in the same way as at Man Utd and Arsenal, and he has talent.

Absent Usmanov and having just finished 8th after a largely unpleasant struggle, let's not get too sniffy in our quest for a goalscorer, even if this particular rumour does turn out to be baseless.

Andy Crooks
44 Posted 24/05/2019 at 22:57:49
Craig #28, sometimes petty things affect your judgement. To me, Sturridge's goal celebrations were so toe-curling, so representative of a deranged showoff. So indicative of someone utterly out of contact with with the world that I would not have him if he played for free. He is seriously appalling.
Andy Crooks
45 Posted 24/05/2019 at 23:03:36
Craig, I meant @27. I was talking about my own judgement. Your call is sound. I just cannot bear Sturridge.
Kieran Kinsella
46 Posted 24/05/2019 at 23:12:21
Andy 43

Not sure on his celebrations but Sturridge has had two decent seasons in his whole career. One at Bolton, One at the RS. Carragher said Sturridge wouldn't play unless he was a 100% fit, and followed that up by saying "no one is ever a 100% fit."

I see him as a bit of a spoilt rich kid. His Dad was decent enough striker, he is somewhat better but born into the easy life. I wouldn't sign either him or Welbeck.

In fact, I would sign no-one and just save all our money till the contracts of the current jokers have run down. By then, FFP rules, sanctions on certain nations etc will have obliterated our opponents so we can crack open our golden war chest and climb our way back to the top.

Mike Jones
47 Posted 24/05/2019 at 23:30:33
Off topic. Spurs flag just gone up in the house over the road and kids in Spurs kits don’t know the family...: but I beeped the dad from the car and we gave a wave. And I’m on Merseyside.

COYS :: just this once.

Paul Jones
48 Posted 24/05/2019 at 23:54:51
Seems more of a Moyes era signing when we would take the dead wood from Man Utd.
Bill Gienapp
49 Posted 25/05/2019 at 00:16:47
He's seen the pitch about as much as McCarthy over the past three seasons, doesn't fit the age profile, and wants a RAISE in his already inflated wages? Sure, makes perfect sense!
Andrew Keatley
50 Posted 25/05/2019 at 01:28:17
Kieran (45) - If you’re referring to Dean Sturridge (as being Daniel’s Dad) then you’re slightly off as he’s his uncle. So hardly a “spoilt rich kid” born into the “easy life”... but everything else you say about him sounds pretty bang on to me.
Jason Broome
51 Posted 25/05/2019 at 02:05:54
Bit mixed with this one.

A. We possibly don't have any money until we sell due to the new stadium and the Walsh era. We also struggled to make 8th. From the outside, short term this might not be as bad a deal as some suggest.

B. We might be selling 4 strikers this summer and will need to sign a couple of strikers to challenge Calvert-Lewin and possibly Simms. One on a free (Welbeck) the other for a lot of money. Sensible.

C. He is a short term option who plays a similar high tempo, hard grafting style to Calvert-Lewin. He works defences and would bag more if he were selfish. That said, 16 goals for England isn't bad.

D. Unlike the 3 stooges, when fit he is capable of pushing Calvert-Lewin to raise his game.

E. The lad has a good attitude and is professional on and off the pitch. He also has Champions League experience. Further, 28 is not old in modern day football.

F. In addition to the above, he has worked with some the best managers and strikers in the country. He might be the most cultured striker at the club... if signed.

Downside: spending £5.2 million a year for a player who might get injured is always a risk.

Alan J Thompson
52 Posted 25/05/2019 at 03:42:29
A second free transfer! Has anyone checked the books recently, other than the Head Accountant?
Eric Myles
53 Posted 25/05/2019 at 04:24:32
16 goals for England??

Mostly against not very good teams.

Mark Siddons
54 Posted 25/05/2019 at 04:27:54
I would rather have Niasse back in than Welbeck.
Drew O'Neall
55 Posted 25/05/2019 at 05:38:42
Mark - me too.
Mike Gaynes
56 Posted 25/05/2019 at 06:39:44
ESPN reporting late today that interest in Richarlison is increasing from Barca and ManUtd... and that Everton will demand £100m for him.

In the highly unlikely event that someone actually comes in for him at that level, we'd assuredly sell, right?

And that would explain the otherwise inexplicable Wellbeck rumor.

Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
57 Posted 25/05/2019 at 07:14:26
I think he needs the money as his dad, Stan, has retired from working with the Bomb Squad.
Derek Knox
58 Posted 25/05/2019 at 07:21:17
Mike G, Man Utd are in a bit of a strange situation at the moment, their season was in disarray under Jose, with player power being responsible for his dismissal.

Up steps Ole and seemingly transforms them, with virtually the same personnel, gets the job permanently and then it's back to what it was under Jose.

They are, I believe going to rebuild and weed out the bad influences in the Dressing Room, and they obviously have the money to spend, but I wouldn't like to see him go yet, it is only his second year in the Premier League, and he will only get better in my opinion.

As for Welbeck, his injury record more-or-less speaks for itself, and I can't envisage it improving; as someone has mentioned, he is decent when he's fit and knows where the goal is, but when and how often is that likely to be?

Steve Brown
59 Posted 25/05/2019 at 07:29:34
An overpaid, goal-shy sicknote. He would be a worthy successor to a long line of Everton strikers!
John Raftery
60 Posted 25/05/2019 at 08:02:36
A case of the agent testing the market, we hope! Welbeck has always been a player who looks as if he can play but who flatters to deceive. Signing him would be completely contrary to the strategy of bringing in hungry players in their early twenties with the potential to improve themselves and the team.
Mike Kehoe
61 Posted 25/05/2019 at 08:13:39
Welbeck is hardly a name to get pulses racing and the money quoted seems too high. I have faith that Brands has a plan but also that Calvert-Lewin's development and improvement will continue, so the urgency of the last few years isn't quite as bad as it was.

Hopefully there will be a big clear out with Mirallas, Bolasie, Walcott, Niasse, Tosun, Martina etc all fucked right off to pastures new. I would love us to then sign Diego Costa and a team of top quality psychiatrists to keep him focused.

Paul Johnson
62 Posted 25/05/2019 at 08:26:40
How about a cheeky little bid for Lukaku. Still only 26, 20 goals a season guaranteed and looks to be leaving Old Trafford. Also hardly ever injured, unlike Welbeck, who rarely gets 20 games a season.
Dan Nulty
63 Posted 25/05/2019 at 10:03:32
Put this down to agent trying to make people remember who his client is. No chance he fits into the type of signing we have seen from Brands and Silva.
Peter Roberts
64 Posted 25/05/2019 at 10:09:24
England international on a free transfer? Yes on two conditions:

We buy another striker for serious money and Welbeck is the plan B option off the bench.

One or both of Tosun and Niasse are sold to make room for his wages.

Brian Williams
65 Posted 25/05/2019 at 10:12:36
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Mike Allison
66 Posted 25/05/2019 at 10:26:01
Brian, do they grow Euros or Pounds?
Mike Allison
67 Posted 25/05/2019 at 10:29:05
I don't think Brands or Silva intend to sign anyone English or anyone over 25.

A crocked Welbeck is the kind of signing Everton have made in the past, so is the kind of thing journalists will fill space with but, as many others have said, it doesn't fit with what we've seen from Brands and Silva so far.

Terry Underwood
68 Posted 25/05/2019 at 10:44:04
Mark @14. Glasgow or Cork?
Pat Kelly
69 Posted 25/05/2019 at 10:52:56
Walcott has tweeted that he looks forward to teaming up with Welbeck again, in the treatment room.
Paul Burns
70 Posted 25/05/2019 at 10:58:35
Every shit player, and there's thousands of them, think they can play for "a Champions League team".

Fuck them off and get hungry young players in with the right attitude, not bloated, past-it multi-millionaires with an over-inflated opinion of themselves, a family of ten agents to feed, and a demeanour around them like they're doing you a favour.

I could be describing Kevin Mirallas right there.

Jake Lucas
71 Posted 25/05/2019 at 11:00:36
Don't get me wrong – I'm not endorsing this move or think there is any strength to the rumours. However, if we do go for it, I think it'll be a player risk but certainly not a financial one.

Even if we increase his wage to £120k a week, I'd guess it would make sense to offer him a 3-year deal at 28 with an optional 4th. That's £6,240,000 a year, £18,720,000 over the contract term. Due to being out of contract, he'll no doubt demand a higher-than-usual signing bonus and large agent fee... for argument's sake, let's say £5m. If it doesn't work out and we want rid in 2 years, he'll still be able to command a £5-10m fee with 1 year left on his contract.

We lost more on Klaassen in 1 year than we will do on this player even if he flops. Just a thought... and what if we get 1 good year out of him? Bonus!!

Paul Burns
72 Posted 25/05/2019 at 11:02:09
Jake... rubbish, mate.

Are you his agent?

Brian Williams
73 Posted 25/05/2019 at 11:05:06
Mike #67.

It depends if you plant them in the UK or not, mate. That's the miraculous thing about them – the money that grows on them is in the currency of the country they're grown in.

Now you can't ask for more than that can you? How many will you take? 😉

Jake Lucas
74 Posted 25/05/2019 at 11:08:31
Paul, it's not rubbish at all – it's just simply doing the numbers. Not passing judgment on the player's quality or reliability with injury, just the finances.
David Pearl
75 Posted 25/05/2019 at 11:21:06
There's not a sane person who wouldn't have doubts about giving a large contract to an injury-blighted player. So, dependent on a thorough medical, and obviously reduced wages, he might get a 2-year deal.

If we do sell Tosun and Niasse, then Welbeck might be a gamble worth taking. If he stays fit, he scores goals. We started to have a lot of shots towards the end of the season. We need players to finish those chances. Of course, I'd prefer Lacazette!!

Jake Lucas
76 Posted 25/05/2019 at 11:28:23
Yes, I agree, David. 2 years with an optional 3rd would make more sense... I'll happily admit that.
Anthony Murphy
77 Posted 25/05/2019 at 13:50:32
Worrying if true. As someone else points out, a Moyes-era type signing. What we can't do this summer is lose fit, first-team picks like Gana and Zouma and bring in journeymen.

Silva is probably on the lookout for someone who won't cost a packet to push Calvert-Lewin and be happy to play from the bench, but not seeing the answer here.

Jack Convery
78 Posted 25/05/2019 at 15:41:28
Next season is a season of real opportunity - CFC / MU / AFC will not be up to their usual standards as rebuilding or can't win away from home. Spurs if they win the C/L ( fingers crossed ), may well lose Pochettino, especially if Levy continues the scrooge act with regards to transfers. Are Barca looking for a manager - I can't remember.

Get Vardy now and the 3rd / 4th spot may well be up 4 grabs. Wolves are the fly in the ointment as will they have 2nd second season syndrome or kick on.

As regards Welbeck - a retrograde step as a liability who prefers the fitness room to running on the grass. Let him go to Southampton and let Theo go with him.

Jamie Crowley
79 Posted 25/05/2019 at 16:02:29
Jack -

I agree wholeheartedly. Next season is one where the barn door will be wide open.

Kieran Kinsella
80 Posted 25/05/2019 at 16:03:23
Mark Murphy 14,

We can't assume the "deluded Twat" favours a move to a Champions League club (though who wouldn't, given a choice?), just because the Daily Mail and The Sun say so. The Daily Mail also indicated Hitler was nice bloke back in the 1930s, while we all know about the nonsense written in The Sun.

Mike Gaynes
81 Posted 25/05/2019 at 17:44:11
Sorry, Jamie and Jack, but you guys are dreaming. There is no factor in Chelsea, Spurs or Arsenal that will make a 20-point difference in the standings. And we sure as hell aren't going to get 20 points better with Vardy (as if Leicester would sell him anyway).

We are playing for 6th next season.

David Pearl
82 Posted 25/05/2019 at 18:36:34
Well, Mike, only the top 2 finished the season better than us. Leicester kept up the form that saved them from relegation to win the Premier League the following year.

Now I'm not saying that we will win the Premier League. But we should be trying to. We will improve next season. We can give anyone a game.

So no, sorry, we aren't aiming for 6th. The difference between us and the current top 6 was goals scored. Not goals conceded. The squad have adopted Silvas formation and tactics. Now we have something to build on. And we will.

Kieran Kinsella
83 Posted 25/05/2019 at 18:47:52
Mike 81

I disagree. Chelsea with the transfer ban, Spurs maybe lose Poch. they drop 8-10 points more, we don’t giveaway points to relegation strugglers. It could happen

Julian Exshaw
84 Posted 25/05/2019 at 19:06:21
Might have been a good signing a year or two ago but he seems to have lost his way a bit, undoubtedly due to injury. I'm not sure this would excite fans come August. I think we have set our bar higher or at least have to.
Tony Hill
85 Posted 25/05/2019 at 19:07:18
I agree, Kieran @83. I understand Mike's hard view @81 and have taken it myself, but I don't think those above us are unreachable. We played well against all of them - including City, actually - last season.

What changed my mind about Silva was that we outplayed the shite at Anfield in a way that hadn't happened for 55 years. Get our minds right, expect to win, make some intelligent purchases and I think we can beat anybody and sustain a challenge for top 4.

I'm contradicting views I have expressed to the effect that we are in a 5 year development programme towards having a serious team but there we go, I'm feeling ambitious.

Mike Gaynes
86 Posted 25/05/2019 at 21:10:21
Hey, guys, could we crack the top four or even pull a Leicester? Or a '95 Rovers? Of course we could. Richarlison could suddenly explode into a 25-goal scorer, Calvert-Lewin could develop into a 15-goal man, we could remain essentially injury-free and Silva could suddenly instill a level of consistency that would eliminate the points lost to bottom clubs.

And you're more than welcome to believe in all that if you want.

I just don't see it. I don't see top-4 talent, I don't see the depth and, despite the unquestioned improvement at the end of the season, I don't see a manager that can elevate a club to those levels.

I'm available to be convinced, at least about the first two, if Brands does as well in the summer transfer window as he did last year.

But, for now, I view it as a pipe dream.

I will be delighted if we earn a Champions League place next season.

Andy Crooks
87 Posted 25/05/2019 at 22:49:10
Mike, sadly you are spot on. I would guess this is a five year plan. But, who knows. Leicester was up there with Lazarus, but, miracles happen.
Neil Wood
88 Posted 25/05/2019 at 23:47:24
Stan @57 — genius!!! Love it!!!
Justin Doone
89 Posted 26/05/2019 at 00:19:53
Too injury-prone to be considered. We should be able to get better.

At best, a 12-month pay-as-you-play deal which he or his agent will not go for.

Alan J Thompson
90 Posted 26/05/2019 at 05:40:51
Somebody said we should make a cheeky bid for Lukaku but we don't want players who only want to play in the Champions League, we need players who can play in it after helping to qualify for it.
John G Davies
91 Posted 26/05/2019 at 07:18:09
If Zouma returns to Chelsea maybe a bid to bring Stones back?

He seems surplus to requirements at Man City.
Hugh Jenkins
92 Posted 26/05/2019 at 09:22:45
I see today that West Ham have made an £18m bid for Gomes and that Onyekuru wants a permanent move to Turkey so he can play in the Champions League next season.

I've no idea how much of this to believe?

Mark Murphy
93 Posted 26/05/2019 at 09:40:49
Terry, #68, come to think of it, he'd be a good signing for Stalybridge.

Kieran, #80, chill mate – I didn't see the Mail or Sun mentioned but anyway...

Even if it's his agent speaking, I'm irritated that a perennial crock and spare-part cast-off at Arsenal is deemed too good for Everton to be his first choice.

His agent / The Sun / The Mail / The Standard are deluded twats!

Jon Withey
94 Posted 26/05/2019 at 09:47:30
#92

Expect a few rumours about Gomes to put his price up.

I can't imagine we'd sell Onyekuru cheaply given he has a bit of a buzz about him now.

Rob Halligan
95 Posted 26/05/2019 at 09:58:41
Hugh # 92. I reckon you can believe 50% of what you've heard.

There is no chance of Gomes going to West Ham, while I suppose it's possible Onyekuru would favour a move to Galatasaray.

Martin Nicholls
96 Posted 26/05/2019 at 14:20:15
Question to all you guys who favour signing the injury-prone Welbeck, even on "favourable terms":

Assuming you believe he might bring the goals that our approach play warrants, have you actually checked out his goalscoring record? It's dreadful!

Jon Withey
97 Posted 26/05/2019 at 14:51:58
Welbeck's scoring record is pretty similar to Calvert-Lewin's.

In fact, Calvert-Lewin scored more last season (6) than Welbeck ever has in one Premier League season (5).

Only positive that I can see for Welbeck is that he scored 6 for England in the 2014-15 qualifiers.

Sounds like a waste of money to me, relative to what we need anyway.

Karen Mason
98 Posted 26/05/2019 at 19:37:25
Boys & girls, are you forgetting that we now have Marcel Brands to take care of transfer business. Let's keep the faith with him & not let Agent planted news feeds tease us. Marcel hasn't done badly so far has he? Personally, I'm not even reading transfer gossip. Until M & M say it's a done deal, will I be reading it!!
Bob Parrington
99 Posted 27/05/2019 at 08:40:53
Can't imagine one reason why we would sign Welbeck now. Maybe 10 years ago?!
Tony Twist
100 Posted 27/05/2019 at 15:03:15
The jury certainly will be out on Marcel Brands if he is considering this player. Totally the wrong type of player that we should be looking for, unreliable, we just can't afford this luxury player who will let us down time and time again.

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