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1 Posted 24/03/2020 at 21:41:27
2 Posted 24/03/2020 at 21:46:41
3 Posted 24/03/2020 at 21:55:10
4 Posted 24/03/2020 at 21:55:15
5 Posted 24/03/2020 at 22:22:31
He made some very negative comments about Duncan Ferguson, I recall, and also was highly critical of us as a club when we transported Big Dunc back from Scotland and subsequently supported him after his stint in jail.
More generally, he thinks he is lot brighter and more insightful than was ever the case. Unlike some of the football folk he references during his interview, he was always guilty of over-estimating his own importance. His "bleeding stump routine" during the interview elicits very little sympathy from me.
6 Posted 24/03/2020 at 22:42:19
7 Posted 25/03/2020 at 12:39:13
"Scudamore made it known to me that he didn't like that. He thought I should be more involved in â€˜selling' the Premier League."
That's the issue that many fans have with the Premier League and the footballing authorities in general, they have turned a game into a product and, for me, it has taken away most of what used to be good about the game. Younger fans probably don't care as much as some of us older fans about this difference as they have grown up with the 'product'.
Watching the re-runs of the FA Cup matches last weekend highlighted how the game has altered in the last 20 odd years. Oh for a return to that type of excitement and passion from players and fans alike.
8 Posted 25/03/2020 at 13:13:29
9 Posted 25/03/2020 at 13:19:28
If football is about inspiration, then I was inspired by Roy Keane that night, when he showed that his team was more important than himself. (What a contradiction, some Irish fans will undoubtedly say.)
10 Posted 25/03/2020 at 14:01:58
One of the best imo was Barry 'look at his face' Davies. He said a lot without saying too much but was to the point.
11 Posted 25/03/2020 at 14:04:35
12 Posted 25/03/2020 at 21:50:50
The Match of the Day team knew that, I mean he made his debut when he was about 60 didn't he? That's before we get on to his Liverpool love in.
At the end of the day, football commentators, any I suppose, boxing, rugby, cricket need a likeable charisma to go with the technical side, not a whiny arse voice like nails down a blackboard.
13 Posted 25/03/2020 at 21:58:30
Total knob when Everton were playing as he just obviously loved Man Utd. But if it wasn't Everton the commentary was great.
14 Posted 25/03/2020 at 22:15:18
So how long is it now since you haven't spoken to your brother Alan, 20 years?
15 Posted 25/03/2020 at 22:16:35
I watched our 1985 cup tie against Ipswich on Saturday and was pleasantly surprised to hear the commentator (Barry Davies) talk about our football in such glowing terms.
Was it because commentators back then didn't recognise the bleating of the fashionable elite - or was it because we ourselves were (decidedly unfashionable) elite ourselves?
1000-word essays tackling this conundrum on my desk for 5pm tomorrow please.
16 Posted 25/03/2020 at 22:34:50
I seem to remember that, even in the '80s, the media did not give us the recognition we deserved because by then the rs brigade had moved into media and were like poison ivy.
17 Posted 26/03/2020 at 00:06:04
18 Posted 26/03/2020 at 01:19:37
19 Posted 26/03/2020 at 06:16:42
Moore was once asked what his greatest cock-up was and answered that he was giving out the team line ups and got to one player and said; "He's just pissed a late fatness test"!
20 Posted 26/03/2020 at 09:42:41
He never missed the opportunity to have a real kick at Everton, when he could (and that's not me being over sensitive), whilst his love for our neighbours was almost gushing at times.
I won't miss him.
21 Posted 26/03/2020 at 14:37:35
His comment about MotD that “I'd get a game and often be fifth or sixth in the running order, so it wasn't really going anywhereâ€ says it all really.
Football fans get annoyed when there team is down the MotD running order, whereas he thinks the order should be determined by his subjective opinion about the quality of the commentary!
22 Posted 26/03/2020 at 15:02:30
23 Posted 26/03/2020 at 15:39:09
Back in the day great radio commentators used to stick to describing the action. Thus we heard more about the action and less about their opinions. Peter Jones was one of the best.
24 Posted 27/03/2020 at 12:23:38
25 Posted 27/03/2020 at 12:51:29
He also asked if anyone had any 'paint' as he would rather watch it dry, whilst commentating at Goodison.
He's an areshole and a dinosaur; won't be missed.
26 Posted 27/03/2020 at 13:33:41
When I first started my Blue life, footy was an addiction. I'd listen to the 5 Live podcast every Sunday night, usually hosted by Alan Green.
I absolutely loved the guy. Brutally, brutally honest, intelligent, engaging, abrasive and opinionated but for me generally fair. I couldn't wait to listen to 5 Live with Green. He was superb. I knew of his rs leanings through reading, but I honestly didn't care. I'd just take anything he said about Liverpool with a grain of salt and enjoy the rest of it.
From my recollection, he'd rip Everton when they deserved it, and he'd praise them when they deserved it. But 90% of his comments and tone matched that of TW! Can't win the big game, until ownership changes can't make the leap up the table, plucky little Everton type of stuff.
I've adopted many things Blue, foremost my disdain for "them". But when it comes to Alan Green, I have to say I disagree. I enjoyed him.
27 Posted 28/03/2020 at 19:26:43
Actually, at the last ToffeeWeb get together, I realized by the end of the evening, that the magnificent Keith Berry and his son, top lad, both Londoners, had not understood a word I said. Probably for the best.
28 Posted 29/03/2020 at 00:47:25
Just about the only radio commentator who could keep the commentary at a level where you worried the other team were about to score for almost the whole match. In that respect, he had few peers.
On the downside, he said a lot of negative stuff about Everton when on air. Now, to be honest, some of the comments about our football being awful were bang on if we are honest with ourselves. We just didn't want to hear it.
And that I think is the problem for him. A bit too honest and could have done without commenting about his opinions. People don't always like hearing negative stuff, especially when it's a partisan game and our bit of entertainment for the week.
The occasion when he fell out with Alex Ferguson says a lot. Instead of trying to smooth things over when confronted, he replied to Whiskey Nose's four-letter blast with a four-letter blast of his own. Sometimes, a bit of diplomacy is worth it.
29 Posted 29/03/2020 at 14:25:51
This, however, is part of the bigger BBC picture. My 18-year-old son has an encyclopaedic knowledge of European football. He would make a great footy journalist and reporter. But he'd never be able to work for the BBC. He doesn't tick any boxes. White, educated, heterosexual male. Who needs knowledge and a love of the game? A black jewish lesbian in a wheelchair would get through the interview every time.
The female 'experts' trotted out after their stellar careers playing on park pitches are a collective joke.
Don't get me wrong. I love the fact that more girls are playing sport. But being told that it is as good as male sport when it clearly is not is like telling me that a Big Mac is the same as a prime steak. It is as I said. Just a sign of the times.
30 Posted 29/03/2020 at 17:07:04
It struck me that he was one of those people who rack up ill-feeling, then cry foul when challenged and play the innocent victim. Of course, he loved the filth. Loathsome man of negative talent. I would rather listen to anyone else irrespective of their background than ever hear his rancid utterances again.
31 Posted 29/03/2020 at 17:14:16
I didn't like his open obsession with Liverpool though.
32 Posted 30/03/2020 at 17:38:23
He is being pushed out in favour of diversity. Colour, gender and age (young) are the criteria for the broadcasting media today. The same bland pundits working across the channels.
Give me Alan Green any day of the week rather than the dull utterances of the current crop.
33 Posted 30/03/2020 at 17:58:54
34 Posted 30/03/2020 at 19:13:05
35 Posted 31/03/2020 at 00:29:08
36 Posted 31/03/2020 at 09:49:36
It is notable that there isn't a chorus of people adding other Radio 5 commentators, because they are fair and objective: John Murray, Mike Ingham and Ian Dennis for instance. Alan Green would overstate things, and one could hear the relish with which he would enjoy talking a team down (not just Everton) and it was sickening.
I have to say the Connor Macnamara is Green's heir apparent though â€“ I am told he really enjoyed our defeat at Stamford Bridge and it's always sackcloth and ashes when we score during his commentaries.
37 Posted 01/04/2020 at 14:09:44
Barry Davies always loved Kevin Sheedy, bit of Welsh bias perhaps, and Sheedy was particularly instrumental in that game against Ipswich.
I recall when Stallone came to visit Green was speculating whether his car would have lost its tyres by the time he had left the ground. How we all laughed.
38 Posted 10/04/2020 at 18:03:28
Fucking hated him!
39 Posted 13/04/2020 at 18:28:50
He can't complain he had a good run.
40 Posted 18/04/2020 at 11:08:16
41 Posted 20/04/2020 at 05:31:39
42 Posted 22/04/2020 at 08:00:30
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