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Brian Willis
1 Posted 24/03/2020 at 21:41:27
Whether Alan Green divides opinion or not, he formed a memorable duo with Mike Ingram. They embraced quality broadcasting which in many undeserving cases is not the norm today! It is difficult to comprehend some of the irritating voices allowed to flourish behind the microphone at present or in the future!!!
Chris Williams
2 Posted 24/03/2020 at 21:46:41
He was not my cup of meat.
Geoff Lambert
3 Posted 24/03/2020 at 21:55:10
To be replaced by some unknown woman who kicks a ball around for England girls team.
Mike Allison
4 Posted 24/03/2020 at 21:55:15
A dreadful commentator, so frustrating. You always knew how he felt or what he thought but you rarely knew what was actually happening.
Tony McNulty
5 Posted 24/03/2020 at 22:22:31
He always struck me as rather anti-Everton.

He made some very negative comments about Duncan Ferguson, I recall, and also was highly critical of us as a club when we transported Big Dunc back from Scotland and subsequently supported him after his stint in jail.

More generally, he thinks he is lot brighter and more insightful than was ever the case. Unlike some of the football folk he references during his interview, he was always guilty of over-estimating his own importance. His "bleeding stump routine" during the interview elicits very little sympathy from me.

Sean Kelly
6 Posted 24/03/2020 at 22:42:19
Who cares about the dinosaur?
Patrick McFarlane
7 Posted 25/03/2020 at 12:39:13
I am no lover of Alan Green as he had his own agenda and loved to wax lyrical about one club in particular, whether it was deserving or not. However, I do agree with his disdain for the Premier League mantra as espoused by then CEO Richard Scudamore:

"Scudamore made it known to me that he didn't like that. He thought I should be more involved in ‘selling' the Premier League."

That's the issue that many fans have with the Premier League and the footballing authorities in general, they have turned a game into a product and, for me, it has taken away most of what used to be good about the game. Younger fans probably don't care as much as some of us older fans about this difference as they have grown up with the 'product'.

Watching the re-runs of the FA Cup matches last weekend highlighted how the game has altered in the last 20 odd years. Oh for a return to that type of excitement and passion from players and fans alike.

Andy Crooks
8 Posted 25/03/2020 at 13:13:29
Alan used to be a top, top journalist. All of his annoying traits were advantages. However, he was an unashamed kopite and found it hard to conceal his admiration for his beloved reds. I don't care for him but he had no fear and that is the best quality a journalist can have. He really did call it as he saw it.
Tony Abrahams
9 Posted 25/03/2020 at 13:19:28
Enjoyed that article, Michael, thanks it was a very good read that mate. Roy Keane, was more than key that night though imo, even if someone might be understating things, because he put in an unbelievable performance, one of the finest I've ever witnessed, and single-handedly dragged his team back into the game, even though he knew he was going to be suspended if his team got to the final.

If football is about inspiration, then I was inspired by Roy Keane that night, when he showed that his team was more important than himself. (What a contradiction, some Irish fans will undoubtedly say.)

Richard Reeves
10 Posted 25/03/2020 at 14:01:58
I've often heard him describe a game as the worst he's ever seen to then see it later and think it wasn't bad at all. He is generally a quite negative commentator but I think I prefer that to some of the others who over-hype everything.

One of the best imo was Barry 'look at his face' Davies. He said a lot without saying too much but was to the point.

Les Green
11 Posted 25/03/2020 at 14:04:35
Reading that whole article, there seems to be a common thread running through the piece of him alienating himself from others in the business and not knowing why – which reminds me of the old adage of not changing anything results in being doomed to repeat your mistakes.
Billy Roberts
12 Posted 25/03/2020 at 21:50:50
I couldn't stand his voice (not his accent) and his delivery, he may have been a knowledgeable commentator but my god he was unlikable.

The Match of the Day team knew that, I mean he made his debut when he was about 60 didn't he? That's before we get on to his Liverpool love in.

At the end of the day, football commentators, any I suppose, boxing, rugby, cricket need a likeable charisma to go with the technical side, not a whiny arse voice like nails down a blackboard.

Robert Tressell
13 Posted 25/03/2020 at 21:58:30
I liked him. Voice of 5live. Really helped get me interested in football. Can be a real pleasure listening on the radio.

Total knob when Everton were playing as he just obviously loved Man Utd. But if it wasn't Everton the commentary was great.

Billy Roberts
14 Posted 25/03/2020 at 22:15:18
Les @11

So how long is it now since you haven't spoken to your brother Alan, 20 years?

Paul Jones
15 Posted 25/03/2020 at 22:16:35
Echoing Richard @ 10...

I watched our 1985 cup tie against Ipswich on Saturday and was pleasantly surprised to hear the commentator (Barry Davies) talk about our football in such glowing terms.

Was it because commentators back then didn't recognise the bleating of the fashionable elite - or was it because we ourselves were (decidedly unfashionable) elite ourselves?

1000-word essays tackling this conundrum on my desk for 5pm tomorrow please.

Jay Harris
16 Posted 25/03/2020 at 22:34:50
Paul,

I seem to remember that, even in the '80s, the media did not give us the recognition we deserved because by then the rs brigade had moved into media and were like poison ivy.

Andy Crooks
17 Posted 26/03/2020 at 00:06:04
Robert@ 13, he loves Liverpool.
Derek Thomas
18 Posted 26/03/2020 at 01:19:37
He doesn't fit my profile either, rs lover. Whatever they did or didn't sack him for, being rs wasn't one of of the reasons, which is his main crime. I have a list of people I worry about losing their job - he is well down on it.
Alan J Thompson
19 Posted 26/03/2020 at 06:16:42
I was never a lover of Alan Green and my favourite commentators were Barry Davies and Brian Moore.

Moore was once asked what his greatest cock-up was and answered that he was giving out the team line ups and got to one player and said; "He's just pissed a late fatness test"!

Steve Hogan
20 Posted 26/03/2020 at 09:42:41
Leaving aside his qualities as a broadcaster, why is it these guys can never bow out gracefully? To be still working at 67, in a job watching football twice a week, and get well paid for it, is something most of us can only dream about.

He never missed the opportunity to have a real kick at Everton, when he could (and that's not me being over sensitive), whilst his love for our neighbours was almost gushing at times.

I won't miss him.

Nick Riddle
21 Posted 26/03/2020 at 14:37:35
Mike Allison at 4 above sums it up for me. With Alan Green it was all about him.

His comment about MotD that “I'd get a game and often be fifth or sixth in the running order, so it wasn't really going anywhere” says it all really.

Football fans get annoyed when there team is down the MotD running order, whereas he thinks the order should be determined by his subjective opinion about the quality of the commentary!

Alan McGuffog
22 Posted 26/03/2020 at 15:02:30
Dislike him. My particular beef was his arrogance, especially towards refs. Now I know most referees have doubtful parentage but I hated his "Oh and I think the referee may have got it right there" stance. Like I said, a real arrogant so and so
John Raftery
23 Posted 26/03/2020 at 15:39:09
I have not listened to 5live for over twenty five years. One of the benefits of attending every game home and away is that I don't need to listen to any other radio commentators.

Back in the day great radio commentators used to stick to describing the action. Thus we heard more about the action and less about their opinions. Peter Jones was one of the best.

Tony Everan
24 Posted 27/03/2020 at 12:23:38
Always grated on me that he seemed very negative about Everton every time I heard him. So I am glad he has been given the boot.
Liam Reilly
25 Posted 27/03/2020 at 12:51:29
Wasn't it Green who 'joked' about whether Stallone's limousine would still have wheels when he returned to it?

He also asked if anyone had any 'paint' as he would rather watch it dry, whilst commentating at Goodison.

He's an areshole and a dinosaur; won't be missed.

Jamie Crowley
26 Posted 27/03/2020 at 13:33:41
This won't be popular.

When I first started my Blue life, footy was an addiction. I'd listen to the 5 Live podcast every Sunday night, usually hosted by Alan Green.

I absolutely loved the guy. Brutally, brutally honest, intelligent, engaging, abrasive and opinionated but for me generally fair. I couldn't wait to listen to 5 Live with Green. He was superb. I knew of his rs leanings through reading, but I honestly didn't care. I'd just take anything he said about Liverpool with a grain of salt and enjoy the rest of it.

From my recollection, he'd rip Everton when they deserved it, and he'd praise them when they deserved it. But 90% of his comments and tone matched that of TW! Can't win the big game, until ownership changes can't make the leap up the table, plucky little Everton type of stuff.

I've adopted many things Blue, foremost my disdain for "them". But when it comes to Alan Green, I have to say I disagree. I enjoyed him.

Andy Crooks
27 Posted 28/03/2020 at 19:26:43
Jamie, I suspect Green's accent is a problem. The Northern Irish accent is tight vowelled as if every word is costing us money. I know my own accent is harsh, whereas the Southern Irish accent is warm and friendly. Green, always sounded angry.

Actually, at the last ToffeeWeb get together, I realized by the end of the evening, that the magnificent Keith Berry and his son, top lad, both Londoners, had not understood a word I said. Probably for the best.

Karl Masters
28 Posted 29/03/2020 at 00:47:25
Mixed feelings personally.

Just about the only radio commentator who could keep the commentary at a level where you worried the other team were about to score for almost the whole match. In that respect, he had few peers.

On the downside, he said a lot of negative stuff about Everton when on air. Now, to be honest, some of the comments about our football being awful were bang on if we are honest with ourselves. We just didn't want to hear it.

And that I think is the problem for him. A bit too honest and could have done without commenting about his opinions. People don't always like hearing negative stuff, especially when it's a partisan game and our bit of entertainment for the week.

The occasion when he fell out with Alex Ferguson says a lot. Instead of trying to smooth things over when confronted, he replied to Whiskey Nose's four-letter blast with a four-letter blast of his own. Sometimes, a bit of diplomacy is worth it.

Martin Reppion
29 Posted 29/03/2020 at 14:25:51
Jamie #26, I agree with much of that. He could be opinionated and was always pro red. But he did give praise when it was due. The problem is that, in the last 25 years, we've been due precious little praise.

This, however, is part of the bigger BBC picture. My 18-year-old son has an encyclopaedic knowledge of European football. He would make a great footy journalist and reporter. But he'd never be able to work for the BBC. He doesn't tick any boxes. White, educated, heterosexual male. Who needs knowledge and a love of the game? A black jewish lesbian in a wheelchair would get through the interview every time.

The female 'experts' trotted out after their stellar careers playing on park pitches are a collective joke.

Don't get me wrong. I love the fact that more girls are playing sport. But being told that it is as good as male sport when it clearly is not is like telling me that a Big Mac is the same as a prime steak. It is as I said. Just a sign of the times.

Tim Welsh
30 Posted 29/03/2020 at 17:07:04
In the days when the only way of properly following an Everton game without actually being there was to listen to Radio 5, the prospect of listening to Green commentating on us filled me dread and anger. He never missed an opportunity to mention 'the pillar', he couldn't wait to get a negative angle on our game or our performances, and was obsequious to ex-player pundits to whom he would defer because of his own lack of insight.

It struck me that he was one of those people who rack up ill-feeling, then cry foul when challenged and play the innocent victim. Of course, he loved the filth. Loathsome man of negative talent. I would rather listen to anyone else irrespective of their background than ever hear his rancid utterances again.

Joe McMahon
31 Posted 29/03/2020 at 17:14:16
Said much negative stuff about Everton, from 1997 to 2005 the football was awful to be fair.

I didn't like his open obsession with Liverpool though.

Eddie Dunn
32 Posted 30/03/2020 at 17:38:23
He was a brilliant observer of the game, could conjure up the play, and wasn't scared to tell it as it was. He is a Liverpool fan but, when he was slagging off our play, he was spot-on. I recall him commenting that we were wretched once or twice... he was right.

He is being pushed out in favour of diversity. Colour, gender and age (young) are the criteria for the broadcasting media today. The same bland pundits working across the channels.

Give me Alan Green any day of the week rather than the dull utterances of the current crop.

John Pickles
33 Posted 30/03/2020 at 17:58:54
Complete prick, won't be missed, good riddance.
Derek Taylor
34 Posted 30/03/2020 at 19:13:05
I echo that, John, Hardly merits the column inches!
Andrew Presly
35 Posted 31/03/2020 at 00:29:08
John & Derek sum it up there. Some rare good news in these troubled times. That and the season just finished being expunged from the record books. We have to take the victories we can, although the next RS commentator will just roll off the BBC conveyor belt, I'm certain.
Tim Welsh
36 Posted 31/03/2020 at 09:49:36
Absolutely right, Andrew.

It is notable that there isn't a chorus of people adding other Radio 5 commentators, because they are fair and objective: John Murray, Mike Ingham and Ian Dennis for instance. Alan Green would overstate things, and one could hear the relish with which he would enjoy talking a team down (not just Everton) and it was sickening.

I have to say the Connor Macnamara is Green's heir apparent though – I am told he really enjoyed our defeat at Stamford Bridge and it's always sackcloth and ashes when we score during his commentaries.

Kevin Molloy
37 Posted 01/04/2020 at 14:09:44
Paul,

Barry Davies always loved Kevin Sheedy, bit of Welsh bias perhaps, and Sheedy was particularly instrumental in that game against Ipswich.

I recall when Stallone came to visit Green was speculating whether his car would have lost its tyres by the time he had left the ground. How we all laughed.

Mark Murphy
38 Posted 10/04/2020 at 18:03:28
Fucking good riddance - the non-playing John Aldridge! File under biased blinkered bitter red twat!

Fucking hated him!

Paul Birmingham
39 Posted 13/04/2020 at 18:28:50
For me good riddance, as his RS bias and anti sentiment to EFC, and consistent RS innuendos during games with ex RS and even no RS players involved was too much.

He can't complain he had a good run.

Terry Farrell
40 Posted 18/04/2020 at 11:08:16
Cant stand him but my blood pressure goes off the scale when Clive Tildsley commentates. What a biased prick. When he does an England match, I note the first time he mentions Liverpool and it is usually in the first 5 minutes. Any compliment to an Everton player is a backhanded one. I'm stopping now before I fill 2 hours worth!!!!!
David Currie
41 Posted 20/04/2020 at 05:31:39
Horrible twat, glad he got fired.
Lee Courtliff
42 Posted 22/04/2020 at 08:00:30
Great commentary in the '95 semi-final.

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